And about time too.. we havent got it back since 1992.
Good performance from us right from the off

The major talking point for me:
Why was Ruud dropped?

And also I feel very sorry for Mike Pollitt.. bless him.

This cup is for you smithy lad :thumbsup:
Get well soon!

And 4 nil to!! What a result! Im not really to fased Ruud dint play, other peoples turn to shine!

Id like to say wigan gave it there all, but they could have done better. Manu were just to good!

:D:D:D

does anyone no the song they played right at the start and everyone was singing along, its just completly gone out my head, was it oasis?

yeah, well played man-u about time u won summit.

Cup coming home????

This is the team where the League Cup is below them. They put out reserve sides and kids for the early rounds against lesser teasm who could amke money out of the fact that Rooney & co may be playing.

The cup has gone to the team who least deserve it.

The cup has gone to the team who least deserve it.
I have to disagree there..fact is they won it..so they deserve it...if they played a lesser first team then all the other clubs would have had a better chance of beating them thus getting further in the competition..a lot more beneficial than one game with Rooney playing.

As for the cup coming home quote....:huh: ....I wasn't aware it lived in Old Trafford??

What a foolish thread.
I enjoyed the game, but was slightly embarrassed by our celebrations towards the end, especially Fergusons.
The Carling Cup should be beneath us - the fact it no longer is speaks volumes.

P.S Ruud was dropped as Saha had practically got us to Cardiff - there is no way Ferguson could have overlooked him.

You definately deserved to win the game but to suggest the "cup is coming home" when you have only won it twice seems a little absurd.

The Carling Cup should be beneath us - the fact it no longer is speaks volumes.
.

oh please - get over yourselves!!!!

No team deserves to win anything by rights so for you to say that its 'below' you is absurd! Manchester united are NOT the force you once were in football- your early european exit this year proved that, and you have been caught up and over taken by chelsea, arsenal and now liverpool are a very good side indeed (as there win over you 2 weeks ago proved)- every single one of those teams would have been over the moon to win the cup- infact ANY team should be happy when they win something.

I really think you should learn to be thankful for what you have- as its alot more than most teams will ever get.


btw- ferguson was celebrating as that win probably kept him his job for next season!

The Carling Cup should be beneath us.
It doesnt matter what you say - we used to look down on it, and now Ferguson expects us to jump through hoops when we win it.

Its nice to win, but it doesnt have any real impact on the fans.
I found the jigs a bit upsetting, thats all.

It's not like Man Utd or it's fans to devalue the importance of a trophy though is it.
Also try telling that to the 35-40 thousand Man U fans that attended the game, so I don't buy your "it doesn't have any real impact on the fans" view.

Carling Cup coming home??? Surely if that applies to any club, it would be Liverpool. Haven't they won it more than anyone else?

It's not like Man Utd or it's fans to devalue the importance of a trophy though is it.
Also try telling that to the 35-40 thousand Man U fans that attended the game, so I don't buy your "it doesn't have any real impact on the fans" view.


I have a season ticket at Old Trafford. I watched the game yesterday in the pub. it meant very little to me. Discuss.

There are always day tripper muppets ready to take the tickets at United.

There are always day tripper muppets ready to take the tickets at United.

So there were no season ticket holders at the final as it means nothing to them, or they went but weren't bothered if they won....?

Yesterday showed who the neutrals wanted to win and it was us.
4-0 was seriously harsh particularly given the tap in that was three of the goals.

If you'd told me at the start of the season we'd be 8th in the League and be in the Carling Cup Final I'd have called the white vans.

Either way congratulations Manchester United.

Martin

Carling Cup coming home??? Surely if that applies to any club, it would be Liverpool. Haven't they won it more than anyone else?
Yup, 7 times. But it's not really our cup. Ours is the one with the big ears :wink:

Re, the Fizzy Pop Cup, I sorta see what Guderian's getting at. I think the FA Cup's going the same way. The Champs League is where the money's at. A top 4 place and progression into the knock-out stages in Europe is essential for a big club. There'll always be fans who'll snap up final tickets though whatever the competition cos it's a grand day out.

The romance of the cups doesnt really hold true any more. I vaguely remember Donny Rovers beating a couple of big teams in the Carling this year but sadly for them no one outside of Donny really took much notice. The days of Hereford & Wrexham are gone.

P.S. Hedgehunter, Your lads've been a breath of fresh air in the prem this season. Both you and West Ham try and play good footie. Hope you stick around for a while. Just 2 favours:- 1) Will you please play The Boy Mellor once in a while? He needs games or Rafa'll offload him in the summer. 2) Get yer revenge and take 3 points of the Mancs next week. Ta.

Yeah we seem to be lacking strikers so not playing Mellor doesn't make much sense.

Not sure what Jewell does but he picks these class players out of nowere - Chimbonda, Ellington, McCulloch, Teale, Bullard etc.

Wish we could beat United next week but I can't see it, we've conceded 8 goals in two games against them and given we play open and attacking football we're always vulnerable to teams with a strong attack.

Will do our best either way.

Martin
ps. if you see someone walking round Sheffield in a Latics shirt, it's probably me lol

I have a season ticket at Old Trafford. I watched the game yesterday in the pub. it meant very little to me. Discuss.

There are always day tripper muppets ready to take the tickets at United.
What?? 40,000 of them??..do me a favour

Cup coming home????

This is the team where the League Cup is below them. They put out reserve sides and kids for the early rounds against lesser teasm who could amke money out of the fact that Rooney & co may be playing.

The cup has gone to the team who least deserve it.

I'm sorry - but the Carling Cup is not 'beneath us' as you say.

Being a MU fan I was delighted when we won it yesterday after a good performance from us.

I would have liked us to win something bigger- true- but the carling cup is a bit of silverware none the less the same as the FA Cup or the premiership.

I dont think we should put out reserve sides- I think we should go for it every season with our strongest side but then again, its up to the manager to pick the team- not myself.

And as for the comment about 'The cup has gone to the team who least deserve it' - I find that laughable after seeing the performance we put out- even without RVN.

As for the cup coming home quote....:huh: ....I wasn't aware it lived in Old Trafford??

Meaning, that another cup should be taking its rightfull place in the Old Trafford trophy cabinet :hihi: after its short spell in Russia.... sorry... London!

What a foolish thread.
I enjoyed the game, but was slightly embarrassed by our celebrations towards the end, especially Fergusons.
The Carling Cup should be beneath us - the fact it no longer is speaks volumes.

P.S Ruud was dropped as Saha had practically got us to Cardiff - there is no way Ferguson could have overlooked him.

Why is this a foolish thread? I fail to see the foolishness in all this?
Its called celebrating Gud- even you as a Utd fan should see the good this will have done us.

Fergie was a bit over the top agreed.. but I disagree when you say that the carling cup should be beneath us- winning anything is good for us no matter what cup it is.

The ruud matter: I do hope this does not start turning into another Beckham or Stam incident as I would rather see the back of our manager rather than one of the best strikers in the world.

oh please - get over yourselves!!!!

No team deserves to win anything by rights so for you to say that its 'below' you is absurd! Manchester united are NOT the force you once were in football- your early european exit this year proved that, and you have been caught up and over taken by chelsea, arsenal and now liverpool are a very good side indeed (as there win over you 2 weeks ago proved)- every single one of those teams would have been over the moon to win the cup- infact ANY team should be happy when they win something.

I really think you should learn to be thankful for what you have- as its alot more than most teams will ever get.


btw- ferguson was celebrating as that win probably kept him his job for next season!


I totally agree with the comment about no team deserves to win anything by rights - very true indeed.

However- your other comments..

Manchester united are NOT the force you once were in football- your early european exit this year proved that.

Lets all get this clear- Benfica are by no means a pushover and they are not a crap team as some may make out on this forum, and how the press make them out in world football as they clearly showed against Liverpool the other night.
Possible dark horses in the CL this season? I certainly wouldnt bet against it.

As for us- we are in need of a midfield as we are not the force we used to be, no team is, we need another strong midfield and then we are back again.. thats all we need now- watch this space.

and you have been caught up and over taken by chelsea, arsenal and now liverpool are a very good side indeed as there win over you 2 weeks ago proved

I did chuckle when I read this- Chelski have done well no getting away from that and I dont want to descend into another rant at why they have got where they are so I will stay clear of them, Arsenal are poor at best at the moment and as I said at the beginning of the season- the selling of Vieira will be the downfall of Arsene you mark my words and if they loose Henry as well... Wenger will be out... and as for Liverpool- yep they are european champions which I have to give them credit for- however, a win against us this season is nothing to gloat about as we hammered them last season if I recall in their european cup winning year- they are nothing to write home about yet and I cant see the Liverpool dominace of old coming back to haunt us.

every single one of those teams would have been over the moon to win the cup- infact ANY team should be happy when they win something Agreed

The cups are coming home at our house!

Had some stuff in storage including the best china tea service. Its such a relief to have them home once again..........


Jim:thumbsup:

PS What a stuuuuuuuuuuuuppppppppppppiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiddddd ddddddddd thread!

The cups are coming home at our house!

Had some stuff in storage including the best china tea service. Its such a relief to have them home once again..........

Yay!! Look after them over there.


PS What a stuuuuuuuuuuuuppppppppppppiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiddddd ddddddddd thread!

Why is it? Because Man Utd have won it for a change?
Explain please.

Gloryifing what is considered the most pointless trpohy in the domestic season... sorry just slightly ahead of the LDV.

Come on, you must have better things to do with your time. How about taking up croquet now the weather's turning.

Jim:thumbsup:

Gloryifing what is considered the most pointless trpohy in the domestic season... sorry just slightly ahead of the LDV.

Come on, you must have better things to do with your time. How about taking up croquet now the weather's turning.

Jim:thumbsup:

Its another trophy- in our cabinet.
Its all good.. I dont mind which we win, its all good to me :thumbsup:

Croquet- Not keen :hihi:

Benfica are poor. We'll chat again Angelus after the 2nd leg at Anfield.
Just look at their position in the Portugese League.
I have to say I hope I am proved wrong though and they dump Liverpool out.
As regards Ruud, he deserved to be dropped. His link up play this year has been woeful - he is the best finisher in the business, but he is not irreplaceable.

Benfica are poor. We'll chat again Angelus after the 2nd leg at Anfield.
Just look at their position in the Portugese League.
I have to say I hope I am proved wrong though and they dump Liverpool out.
As regards Ruud, he deserved to be dropped. His link up play this year has been woeful - he is the best finisher in the business, but he is not irreplaceable.

We will very much see after the 2nd leg mate.

Your comments about Ruud:
He is the best finisher in the business, but he is not irreplaceable

That - coming from a Man Utd fan as well to me is sacrilige.

So you would see us selling off one of our world class players if need be to be replaced by whom I wonder?

Ruud for me is the best finisher on his day on this planet, better than anyone I can name off the top of my head, and the fact that he is off form slightly does not bother me for one second- because at the end of the day- you just know he will come back strong again.

I cannot believe you have said that as a Man Utd fan.
Unless you are trying to wind me up you little tinker :)

Ferguson's celebrations only reflect the lowered expectations of Manchester United these days. If they ever get the opportunity to compete for the Charity Shield again no doubt they will treat that as another trophy worth winning as well, eh?

We will very much see after the 2nd leg mate.

Your comments about Ruud:


That - coming from a Man Utd fan as well to me is sacrilige.

So you would see us selling off one of our world class players if need be to be replaced by whom I wonder?

Ruud for me is the best finisher on his day on this planet, better than anyone I can name off the top of my head, and the fact that he is off form slightly does not bother me for one second- because at the end of the day- you just know he will come back strong again.

I cannot believe you have said that as a Man Utd fan.
Unless you are trying to wind me up you little tinker :)

Do you permanently wear rose tinted glasses???

We will very much see after the 2nd leg mate.

Your comments about Ruud:


That - coming from a Man Utd fan as well to me is sacrilige.

So you would see us selling off one of our world class players if need be to be replaced by whom I wonder?

Ruud for me is the best finisher on his day on this planet, better than anyone I can name off the top of my head, and the fact that he is off form slightly does not bother me for one second- because at the end of the day- you just know he will come back strong again.

I cannot believe you have said that as a Man Utd fan.
Unless you are trying to wind me up you little tinker :)

Regards Ruud, he deserved to be dropped in my opinion.
I have never doubted his finishing. But his link up play has got steadily worse recently- and he never wins anything in the air.
Saha is inferior. I agree. Yet he gives us something different than Ruud.
He can get round the back of big rangy defenders (Henchoz, De Zeeuw) in a way that Ruud can't these days.
Its a squad game, and Ruud will be back for the Premiership.

Ferguson's celebrations only reflect the lowered expectations of Manchester United these days. If they ever get the opportunity to compete for the Charity Shield again no doubt they will treat that as another trophy worth winning as well, eh?

Probably yep- but then again, on the other side of the coin.
At least we will have won it :thumbsup:

Do you permanently wear rose tinted glasses???

I do not wear rose tinted specs as you may see from some of my other posts about my beloved club since I started on here.

However- the comments made by one of our clubs 'followers' shocked me to be honest.. Ruud should NOT under any circumstances be allowed to leave.
He is for me, the worlds best striker.

You do not as a sucessfull club, let your best players leave and thats why if I had to choose which one went- Fergie would be out on his arse, and in the same situation as we had with Stam and Beckham- both of them were world class players who fergie had a problem with.

Maybe its time our manager learned some respect for his staff??

I do not wear rose tinted specs as you may see from some of my other posts about my beloved club since I started on here.

However- the comments made by one of our clubs 'followers' shocked me to be honest.. Ruud should NOT under any circumstances be allowed to leave.
He is for me, the worlds best striker.

You do not as a sucessfull club, let your best players leave and thats why if I had to choose which one went- Fergie would be out on his arse, and in the same situation as we had with Stam and Beckham- both of them were world class players who fergie had a problem with.

Maybe its time our manager learned some respect for his staff??


I love Ruud, but he is not the best striker in the world.

Ruud probably isn't the best striker in terms of skill in the world, but he'd be one of the first names on my team sheet as a manager. Simply because of his positioning and finishing, he has the knack of being in the right place at the right time like Lineker and Shearer of old.

And he scores so many goals.

Take a look at this photo..see if you can spot which trophy belongs to which club....here's a clue..one is Liverpools and the other is currently held by man u..it's a toughie so I can offer more clues if needed.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e32/wibbles10/Cups.jpg

My thoughts exactly.
Which is why Sunday was tinged with sadness for me.

My thoughts exactly.
Which is why Sunday was tinged with sadness for me.

How long do you give it before Angelus pipes up??

[QUOTE=ANGELUS]You do not as a sucessfull club, let your best players leave and thats why if I had to choose which one went- Fergie would be out on his arse, [QUOTE]

But you'd be more than happy to get rid of your most succesful manager in history...he who would be virtually impossible to replace just because of a player who can be replaced a lot easier?? :loopy: :rolleyes:

But you'd be more than happy to get rid of your most succesful manager in history...he who would be virtually impossible to replace just because of a player who can be replaced a lot easier?? :loopy: :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Angelus has been saying Fergie out for years. He forgets the fact that if it werent for Abramovich, we may well have won the title this year.
Just compare our points total now with any year we won the title. it proves VERY interesting reading.
Chelsea have moved the bar. And he blames Ferguson, like he does for everything.
From his armchair.

Take a look at this photo..see if you can spot which trophy belongs to which club....here's a clue..one is Liverpools and the other is currently held by man u..it's a toughie so I can offer more clues if needed.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e32/wibbles10/Cups.jpg
:clap::clap::clap:

I love Ruud, but he is not the best striker in the world.

Give me a players name who is better than Ruud for what he does?
I'd love to hear who you are going to come out with.

Take a look at this photo..see if you can spot which trophy belongs to which club....here's a clue..one is Liverpools and the other is currently held by man u..it's a toughie so I can offer more clues if needed.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e32/wibbles10/Cups.jpg

The best thing about that picture for me is that come the end of the season, when Liverpool end up with nowt and we are still left with the Carling Cup and in 2nd place.. who looks the bigger prat :hihi:

Enjoy looking after the CL cup because you wont be winning it this season :)

How long do you give it before Angelus pipes up??

I've not done bad- I've only just logged onto the forum and replied to this at 1.05am Wednesday morning :)

Thats good for me that.

[QUOTE=ANGELUS]You do not as a sucessfull club, let your best players leave and thats why if I had to choose which one went- Fergie would be out on his arse, [QUOTE]

But you'd be more than happy to get rid of your most succesful manager in history...he who would be virtually impossible to replace just because of a player who can be replaced a lot easier?? :loopy: :rolleyes:

'Fergie cant be replaced'... dont make me laugh!

I can think of at least 3 managers who are qualified to take over his job who will do a better job than he has made of it in the last 3 years.

Fergie binned Stam because of personal issues, we ended up ****e in defence for ages.. Fergie binned Beckham because of personal issues and we are still paying for that as well as Ruud has not had the supply to him leading to us having more attacking problems.

When will people stop saying fergie is unsackable.
Letting Ruud go- then fergie wants sacking and I would be quite happy to join the fergie out brigade.

You can be the most successful manager in the world mate- but it does not stop you from overstaying your welcome.

Angelus has been saying Fergie out for years. He forgets the fact that if it werent for Abramovich, we may well have won the title this year.
Just compare our points total now with any year we won the title. it proves VERY interesting reading.
Chelsea have moved the bar. And he blames Ferguson, like he does for everything.
From his armchair.

I have said fergie needs replacing in the past because I find some of his decisions questionable to say the least and I'm sure he will make many many more rash and stupid decisions before he decides he has had enough.
The Ballack situation is another cock up for us- we need a player like him in midfield, Fergie has made it clear we dont want him when the player wishes to come and play for us- so we are now looking at players of frankly ****e quality instead.. Nolan springs to mind... unbelievable.

But of course- Alex never cocks up does he.

We as a club- have been on the slide for ages because we have not replaced the squad with quality for quality.. this has been coming for years, it has nothing to do with the whole chelski scenario and chelski are not to blame.

We can quite happily talk about our current points, however, the fact remains we are out of europe, out of the fa cup and in 2nd place for the league.
Thats ****e for us... we are underperforming and if I can see it, so must our 'rose tinted specs' wearing followers.

That cant be fergies fault neither can it... or maybe it is!

And I can see this from the comfort of my very plush surroundings and my oh so enjoyable couch- why cant everyone else?

I have said fergie needs replacing in the past because I find some of his decisions questionable to say the least and I'm sure he will make many many more rash and stupid decisions before he decides he has had enough.
The Ballack situation is another cock up for us- we need a player like him in midfield, Fergie has made it clear we dont want him when the player wishes to come and play for us- so we are now looking at players of frankly ****e quality instead.. Nolan springs to mind... unbelievable.

But of course- Alex never cocks up does he.

We as a club- have been on the slide for ages because we have not replaced the squad with quality for quality.. this has been coming for years, it has nothing to do with the whole chelski scenario and chelski are not to blame.

We can quite happily talk about our current points, however, the fact remains we are out of europe, out of the fa cup and in 2nd place for the league.
Thats ****e for us... we are underperforming and if I can see it, so must our 'rose tinted specs' wearing followers.

That cant be fergies fault neither can it... or maybe it is!

And I can see this from the comfort of my very plush surroundings and my oh so enjoyable couch- why cant everyone else?

I think you are being pretty naive.
How do you know Fergie didnt want Ballack? Because he said so?
You should know by now its all smoke and mirrors with Fergie.
United stayed in the same hotel in the US as Bayern last summer.
I heard rumours that the two parties met to discuss transfers (sagnol, Ballack).
If Ballack says "I wouldnt consider coming to United", Fergie would never come out and admit the club didnt appeal to him. He has does it countless times before.
I personally think he is dressing this one up, claiming Ballacks age as a reason for not swooping, when the reality is Ballack has set his heart on Spain/Italy.
It saves face for Ferguson.
Either that or he does think he has a chance, but is trying to put others off the scent.

Give me a players name who is better than Ruud for what he does?
I'd love to hear who you are going to come out with.

A strikers name who is better than Ruud??
In terms of finishing, perhaps he is the best.
But a pure finisher is not what we need in certain games.
Anfield last week the PERFECT example.
But as a package, the following are better.

Henry. Shevchenko. Quite possibly Adriano (keeping your fat pal Ronaldo out of the 1st choice Brazil team).

I would put Ruud about 5th overall.

A strikers name who is better than Ruud??
In terms of finishing, perhaps he is the best.
But a pure finisher is not what we need in certain games.
Anfield last week the PERFECT example.
But as a package, the following are better.

Henry. Shevchenko. Quite possibly Adriano (keeping your fat pal Ronaldo out of the 1st choice Brazil team).

I would put Ruud about 5th overall.

I think you forgot Crouch....:D

http://i2.tinypic.com/oszo7c.jpg
I found this funny

http://i2.tinypic.com/oszo7c.jpg
I found this funny
See page 3 of this thread :thumbsup:

Bugger, beat to it, still it is funny

I find this amusing, seeing as Pools 5 attempts have floundered.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sport/football/543368.stm

You cling on to your World Champions thing or whatever it is. It'll be interesting to see who remembers it in years to come..if they even do now.
I'd forgotten you'd even won it till you mentioned as I'm sure many others have.
Correct me if I'm wrong but said article mentions Fifa's inaugual World Club Championships which apparently took place a month later..was that the tournament where united ducked out of the FA Cup to take part??..if it was then didn't you get knocked out??..so you were 'World Champions' for a month...aww...well done for holding such a prestigious award for so long.

I find this amusing, seeing as Pools 5 attempts have floundered.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sport/football/543368.stm
By the way..3 attempts not 5

You cling on to your World Champions thing or whatever it is. It'll be interesting to see who remembers it in years to come..if they even do now.
I'd forgotten you'd even won it till you mentioned as I'm sure many others have.
Correct me if I'm wrong but said article mentions Fifa's inaugual World Club Championships which apparently took place a month later..was that the tournament where united ducked out of the FA Cup to take part??..if it was then didn't you get knocked out??..so you were 'World Champions' for a month...aww...well done for holding such a prestigious award for so long.

I remember as a child watching your great Pool side of 1981 getting dicked 3-0 by the Zico led Flamengo.
Great memory.

And yes, FIFA decided to introduce a new tourno 2 months later.
But at least we can say we have been the best team in the World.

I remember as a child watching your great Pool side of 1981 getting dicked 3-0 by the Zico led Flamengo.
Great memory.

And yes, FIFA decided to introduce a new tourno 2 months later.
But at least we can say we have been the best team in the World.
Yes you can...well done :thumbsup: (even if it was only for 2 months :hihi: , then you got beat in the World Club Championship 3-1 by the Romario led Vasco da Gama...great memory)

Yes you can...well done :thumbsup: (even if it was only for 2 months :hihi: , then you got beat in the World Club Championship 3-1 by the Romario led Vasco da Gama...great memory)

Hardly fair as it was in their country in sweltering conditions......

World Champions

Hardly fair as it was in their country in sweltering conditions......

World Champions
diddums...was it too hot for the poor ickle manchester players??
Now you are scraping the barrel

You forgot to put the letters ex before world champions as we are all aware you no longer hold that title

diddums...was it too hot for the poor ickle manchester players??
Now you are scraping the barrel

You forgot to put the letters ex before world champions as we are all aware you no longer hold that title

Must have been all the sushi on offer in tokyo which explains your DISMAL showing in your numerous World Club Cup attempts.

A strikers name who is better than Ruud??
In terms of finishing, perhaps he is the best.
But a pure finisher is not what we need in certain games.
Anfield last week the PERFECT example.
But as a package, the following are better.

Henry. Shevchenko. Quite possibly Adriano (keeping your fat pal Ronaldo out of the 1st choice Brazil team).
H
I would put Ruud about 5th overall.

We do NEED a pure finisher in all of our games, its the supply that is crap at the minute- not Ruud!

The Anfield scenario- our midfield was none existent and it didnt help that Smith was on the bench when he would have added a little more bite to our midfield if played from the start so I dont think your point about anfield is Ruud related.. he needs a supply to do what he does.
We are not giving him that, hence we lost.

The players you have chose as well- out of all of them I would say Henry is near Ruud, the rest, Shevchenko- I thought was decent until I saw him in the CL final last year and then my opinion of him has changed- he is decent at best and Adriano- he is good when he is on his game but he seems to have a problem with fading in and out of games too much.

Putting Ruud 5th- have you had a knock on the head recently? :)

I think you forgot Crouch....:D

The day that crouch enters that list, I'll revert to eating my own poo.
Seriously.

You cling on to your World Champions thing or whatever it is. It'll be interesting to see who remembers it in years to come..if they even do now.
I'd forgotten you'd even won it till you mentioned as I'm sure many others have.
Correct me if I'm wrong but said article mentions Fifa's inaugual World Club Championships which apparently took place a month later..was that the tournament where united ducked out of the FA Cup to take part??..if it was then didn't you get knocked out??..so you were 'World Champions' for a month...aww...well done for holding such a prestigious award for so long.

People seem to forget we won 4 cups in 1999, and the one that Guderian was speaking about makes you the best team in the world for that year.

Now- lets get onto this subject of the World Club Championship.
The FA, wanted us in that tournament to boost englands chance of getting the world cup- it was not our decision, the FA wanted us in it to boost englands profile.. so we did it for england, but we still should have played the kids in the FA cup.

Also- you dont seem to know that much about football and its related trophies really do you.

The cup we won after winning the CL against the south american opposition deems us to be the worlds best team, the following tournament the World Club Championship was just a friendly promotional tournament- it means nothing.. its just a FIFA marketing exercise.

So therefore we were still the best team in the world in 1999.

People seem to forget we won 4 cups in 1999, and the one that Guderian was speaking about makes you the best team in the world for that year.

Now- lets get onto this subject of the World Club Championship.
The FA, wanted us in that tournament to boost englands chance of getting the world cup- it was not our decision, the FA wanted us in it to boost englands profile.. so we did it for england, but we still should have played the kids in the FA cup.

Also- you dont seem to know that much about football and its related trophies really do you.

The cup we won after winning the CL against the south american opposition deems us to be the worlds best team, the following tournament the World Club Championship was just a friendly promotional tournament- it means nothing.. its just a FIFA marketing exercise.

So therefore we were still the best team in the world in 1999.
The same World Club Championship that exists today and Liverpool were entered into??..well if it means nothing then why would I even care if we won it or not??..or is it now not a FIFA pr exercise and actually a cup worth winning?? (very convenient)
Also the tournament you refer to was the Intercontinental Cup (aka the Toyota Cup) at which you quite rightly won which took place in November...world champions for a month??....congrats :thumbsup: :rolleyes:

The same World Club Championship that exists today and Liverpool were entered into??..well if it means nothing then why would I even care if we won it or not??..or is it now not a FIFA pr exercise and actually a cup worth winning?? (very convenient)
Also the tournament you refer to was the Intercontinental Cup (aka the Toyota Cup) at which you quite rightly won which took place in November...world champions for a month??....congrats :thumbsup: :rolleyes:

OK- let me help you out again with this- dont think I'm being rude but I just want to let you know the difference between the cups.
-Guderian may have to help me if he is viewing this-

The World Club Championship
This cup has the winning team from each of these 6 competitions in it.
* CAF Champions League
* CONCACAF Champions Cup
* AFC Champions League
* OFC Clubs Championship
* UEFA Champions League
* Copa Libertadores

This was used as a FIFA marketing exercise when it first started and the FA demanded we play in it to further englands route to getting the world cup in England.

The winner of this competition is NOT crowned the best of all club teams- that is the other cup which we won in 1999 which is the...

Intercontinental Cup aka The 'Tokyo Cup
Which the winner of the CL takes on the winner of the South American Copa Libertadores cup.

Meaning- the best team in europe takes on the best team from the other continents.

We won it in 1999 - which makes us the best team in the world for that year, up until the next Tokyo Cup.. it does not mean we lost that status in the months afer it in the World Club Championship.

Here endeth the lesson.

Hmmmmm.... Winning the Intercontinental Cup may make a team 'officially' best in the world, but there are plenty of examples of teams which won it that nobody in their right mind would call 'best in the world'.

I really like the idea of a Club World Championship, but FIFA's execution of it so far has been poor.