I don't like wearing make-up because it makes me feel a bit funny - kind of clogged up. And it's expensive and it always ends up smeared all over my face.

Once when I was about 18 my boss told me to start wearing make up at work but I said no. I wondered whether you all think it will disadvantage me at work in the future if I refuse to wear make up? I know I don't look as 'polished' as other women but I am always clean and presentable.

The general rule at work with makeup is less is more. I hate to see women plaster it on with a trowel as it looks so cheap. Bright red lippy and layers of foundation and eyeliner signifies an artificial person in IMHO. Go with what you are happy with.

Hiya Kathy
just to let you know that i admire people like you and wish i had the confidence to go without make up. At the end of the day its how you feel and NO-ONE should feel like they should wear it. Its how you feel and that makes you the person you are. I wear make up every day whether i'm going to work' going to the shop or simply staying in...(cos you never know who may come and visit) if i didn't wear make-up i'd be a different person i'd be quiet with no confidence at all!

Don't worry about kathy, I never wear it either. The only time I put some on is when I'm having a night out.

I was just going to write a quite straight-forward answer to your question but, thinking about it, it's a bit more complicated.

My instinctive response would be no, of course wearing make-up isn't important, and you shouldn't be at any disadvantage. I don't wear anything but the odd bit of concealer and occasionally a bit of powder during the day. However, the key word there is shouldn't.

In some types of work, the presentation of a painted face to the world is more or less mandatory, at least if you don't want to stand out like a sore thumb. In other types of work, less so.

It could be though that some people view the successful woman as being optimally presented at all times; the perfect clothes, make-up etc. Maybe there's a (perhaps subconscious) view that the woman who doesn't wear make-up really can't be bothered to make an effort?

There's the Halo Effect, where beautiful people are seen as possessing other positive attributes (greater inteligence, more amusing, less clumsy etc), so maybe the arguably more attractive look of a made-up face feeds into this?

Personally, I wear make up only when I feel like it.

Wether we like it or not, statistically, beautiful people are generally more successful in life. Controversial, but true in my opinion. Make-up is all about perceived beauty - wether it's real or not is of no relevance to either the multi-billion pound industry, or the majority of people in society if we're to be honest.

Personally, I'm pro-choice - I think you shouldn't have it held against you if you decide to abstain. We shouldn't be dictated to by a workplace or indeed society. I know girls who don't wear make-up. They do wear dungarees however, listen to Tatu, drink alot, fight in pub car parks and usually have bits of diesel oil on their faces. Technically, I think they're called Lesbians :hihi:

Joking apart, be whoever you want to be, and do whatever feels right for you. If others can't accept it, then maybe that says more about who they are?

'One man cannot change the world, but he can change the world for one man'

Go on, set ya foundation on fire!

:)

Don't take any notice Kathy... I don't wear much makeup at all, as I believe in less-is-more :)

Normally in the day, I wear two coats of black mascara (my eyelashes are blonde) and some lipbalm and a sheer lipgloss that sparkles a little when I catch the light :)

In the evening I wear 3 coats of mascara for extra definition, brow highlighter and eyeshadow with lipgloss or VERY occasionally, lipstick... My skin is really fair and I have freckles so I don't wear foundation or powder as it just makes my skin look so un-natural... As a result, my skin is nearly always perfectly clear :)

I wear what I feel comfortable with and it works for me... :D Wear what you want sweetie, if your complexion is good, ditch the foundation and perhaps just draw attention to your lips with some twinkly gloss :P

I don't see any reason why not wearing make-up would be a disadvantage. Did the woman who said that wear loads?

I never wear make-up to work. I don't see the point. I'm not trying to pull anyone there, or impress anyone. I think if you're at work, being able to do your job is way more important than your ability to pile on the slap. I try to cover spots with concealer but that's about as far as it goes.

Make-up is a mask to hide behind for me. I wear it when I go out clubbing as I feel I need the extra layer to give me confidence. It's a means to being someone else for the night. Covering my imperfections and being seen to have made an effort means I can portray myself in a certain way. If I went out clubbing without make-up I'd feel like I'd not made an effort, but if I wore it to work I'd feel over-dressed like I was trying too hard - and my colleagues would take the mickey out of me!

I wore mascara one day and was asked if I was on the pull! I guess because I don't usually bother, there must be a reason why I was wearing it that day. Reason being I had a cold and felt rubbish so made an extra effort with my appearance in order to feel a bit better about myself.

I think if you feel confident and attractive without make-up then it saves a heck of a lot of time, money and smudges on clothing not to wear any. It's how you feel about yourself that determines the image you portray to others a lot of the time. It's never done me any harm not wearing any. I think it's what people get used to seeing aswell as when you see celebs without make-up they generally look rough and pasty because you're so used to seeing them all sparkly and glowing with bronzer. I'd rather have people be used to seeing me without make-up so when they see me with it they notice the change - where's the fun in not having a day and night look or being able to transform yourself when you go out with colleagues from office slave to party girl?

Maybe my opinions will change as I get older and feel I need to cover up more but at the moment if I can get away with the natural look I will. I touch my face a lot and rub my eyes. If I wear lip gloss my hair sticks to my mouth, eye shadow makes my eyes feel heavy, foundation makes me feel all clogged up and gives me spots and mascara and eye liner means black gunk in the corners of my eyes - urgh. After a night out I can't wait to strip off the mask:)

if ya don't like it my friend, Don't wear it!.. it's your body.

It could be though that some people view the successful woman as being optimally presented at all times; the perfect clothes, make-up etc. Maybe there's a (perhaps subconscious) view that the woman who doesn't wear make-up really can't be bothered to make an effort?


See this is what I'm worried about. Actually Lucretia it was a man who asked me to 'put a bit of lippy on occasionally, you know, make an effort' (as if dragging myself to split shifts waitressing six days a week on minimum wage was somehow 'effortless'!) and it has kind of stuck with me.

To be honest I might wear more make up if I was confident about applying it. Although I wonder if I ended up in the kind of job where people cared if I wore make up, maybe I'd be unhappy for other reasons as well.

I have been mistaken for a lesbian before (by men). I think its my pint drinking and jeans that does it :| Oh well boyfriend claims to love me how I am so what can ya do.

See this is what I'm worried about. Actually Lucretia it was a man who asked me to 'put a bit of lippy on occasionally, you know, make an effort' (as if dragging myself to split shifts waitressing six days a week on minimum wage was somehow 'effortless'!) and it has kind of stuck with me.


:o The guy has got some cheek!! That's also a really sexist remark for him to have made - should have had him for discrimination;) Maybe he'd have benefitted from some slap. Or *a* slap...

Still, I guess at least we have the choice. As with the skirt or trousers debate, men generally only have one option or risk ridicule/comment etc.

I wear make up according to my mood. Sometimes i wear lots, sometimes I don't wear any. I don't wear a lot for work as it's not really appropriate- and I've not got the time in a morning but sometimes i like to wear lots.

I've got loads, I like to play with it, Make up is just a form of painting! As I've got very light eyebrows I feel conscious if i'm not wearing any eyebrow make up bizarrely but can go without wearing the rest or wearing the whole lot.

You can get a real buzz out of doing make up for someone. It raises their self esteem and so, in turn, yours for your artwork. I've done loads of people's wedding make up and they are so grateful to you. One lady could not stop staring at herself that i made up last year - she kept staring at herself and saying wow I'm pretty - this was a woman that thought she was a plain Jane. I get a real kick out of making someone feel like that. People's confidence can increase dramatically just from a bit of careful blusher application. Most people have some attractive quality about their face and it's finding that and enhancing it. If you've never had a makeover, I thoroughly recommend it.

As long as you remember to remove make up. I once tried to take a client's make up off, was there for a good twenty mins trying to remove her mascara when she confessed she'd not taken it off in twenty years! I'd probably removed a good hundred or so layers!

I remember seeing one of my neighbours without her make up on when I was about 12 and not recognising who she was! She looked completely different!

Edna Krabapple, the name....I can't stop giggling at it.

I think of the grouchy old bat from Emmerdale. Not that I watch it obviously....shhhh

;)

I don't wear make up to work, it means staying in bed for a couple of extra minutes in the morning. But, I think I'm lucky that as a teacher not wearing make up isn't really an issue (a sign of a more sensible nature maybe, an old stereotype of the slightly dotty teacher, not saying its right but think it may be a possiblility). However, when I started thinking about it, I do put a little bit of make up on for interviews....no idea why, a presentation thing prehaps....hmmmmmmm...:huh:

Think to be told to put make up on is shocking and sexist (part of your job description is to make yourself sexual attractive, WHAT!?! :mad: ). Unless you have a job that involves make up/beauty in some way it has no bearing on your ability to do the job. Yep a good slap is in order

Take no notice,I dont wear make-up,only a touch af mascara but only when my eyelashes are ready for tinting,
I think like this you see all these models wearing it very thick,yeah they all look lovely,but then when you see them without it omg what a shock,
It stops your skin from breathing,if you need a little colour to your face use a tan towel they are fantastic...

no one should feel like they have to wear make up. the most i wear is a bit of concealer to hide the bags under my eyes and a bit of eyeliner cos i like wearing it. other than that i dont bother cos i dont feel the need to wear it. if i ever wore a lot of make up it would make me feel self conscious because i dont like people looking at me saying 'you like nice' or 'whats the occasion?' etc because it draws attention to me then and i dont like evryone staring at me. if i wore make up then i would become a different person. a very shy and quiet person which is not me at all. anyway id rather have more sleep in the morn then get up early just to apply makeup! im not trying to impress anyone and even if i was it would be the wrong way to do it cos id rather impress em with my lovely personality instead!
i have a good balance between not giving a chuff, but at the same time not looking a scruff cos i want to look nice for meself!
so kathy do what you want to do and dunt listen to ur boss!

I've always worn tinted powder depending how pale I look, concealer and mascara but recently I had some dry skin issues on my face so just lately it's been concealer and mascara only. By the time I get into the office I've got pink cheeks anyway so who needs blusher! Have to wear mascara otherwise I don't feel like I've got any eyes!!!

I'd rather where less make-up for work and make an effort when I go out, that way you look just a bit different! But I still don't wear much, and my boyfriend likes the almost-natural look which is fine by me :)

I think it should be down to personal choice; if you're not comfortable in lots (not necessarily heavy) make-up then don't wear it.

Edna Krabapple, the name....I can't stop giggling at it.

I think of the grouchy old bat from Emmerdale. Not that I watch it obviously....shhhh

;)

It's the schoolteacher Edna Krapappel from The Simpsons (i.e My favourite programme) and also my job (I teach Bart's age group!)

I dunno the character off Emmerdale.
There is a link on my profile to a pic of me! I probably look more like the grouchy bat than Edna!

When I was at school/college I really lacked confidence inside but was quite loud. I used to spend about half an hour in the morning putting on make up - foundation, concealer, bronzer, mascara, eyeliner, eyeshadow, lipstick/gloss etc.

However I've noticed that since I've started uni, I've become more confident in myself and have a fantastic boyfriend and now wear less make-up. I usually only wear concealer, lipgloss, bronzer and mascara (coz my eyelashes, although long, are bleached at the end from the sun and look really short and stumpy if I don't wear any!) If I'm going out I'll add eyeshadow and lipstick to make my "evening" look different to my everyday look.

I feel I have to wear makeup at work as the industry I work in relies very much on personality and confidence and I think my make up helps me relay this to customers. I keep my hands and nails in good condition and looking pretty because they are also important to my job.

I don't like wearing make-up because it makes me feel a bit funny - kind of clogged up. And it's expensive and it always ends up smeared all over my face.

Once when I was about 18 my boss told me to start wearing make up at work but I said no. I wondered whether you all think it will disadvantage me at work in the future if I refuse to wear make up? I know I don't look as 'polished' as other women but I am always clean and presentable.

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Bringing the thread back to a more adult level, and hopefully leaving the infantile comments behind, make up is a personal choice.

Few modern organisations can expect a woman to plaster it on, and if you feel comfortable without it, don't wear it. Most of the girls I work with wear a tiny amount, just to highlight the eyes, and that seems to be a nice compromise.

Most blokes might agree that no makeup is better than loads of it.

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Must be a disadvantage to you rocketpig, women having the sense of smell..................:hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

Take no notice,I dont wear make-up,only a touch af mascara but only when my eyelashes are ready for tinting,
I think like this you see all these models wearing it very thick,yeah they all look lovely,but then when you see them without it omg what a shock,
It stops your skin from breathing,if you need a little colour to your face use a tan towel they are fantastic...
What's a tan towel and where do you get one? I'm really pale and I sometimes look half dead but I don't like wearing make-up. I think it's bad for my skin, I can feel it on my face and it's annoying. It's also very expensive - someone once told me that Dior foundation costs more per gram than gold!

I tint my eyelashes too. It's marvellous isn't it? I hate putting mascara on. I seem to lose any hand/eye coordination I have whenever I open a bottle and it ends up all over my face...

What's a tan towel and where do you get one? I'm really pale and I sometimes look half dead but I don't like wearing make-up. I think it's bad for my skin, I can feel it on my face and it's annoying. It's also very expensive - someone once told me that Dior foundation costs more per gram than gold!

I tint my eyelashes too. It's marvellous isn't it? I hate putting mascara on. I seem to lose any hand/eye coordination I have whenever I open a bottle and it ends up all over my face... lol
You can buy tan towels from Ladysave,Superdrug,Boots and Wilkinsons,they are'nt expensive either you can get a pack of 30 for around £1.99,
The ones i buy are from the wholesalers and you need trade card to get in,they cost me £5.99 for 20,
Although i have used some from Ladysave before and they are just as good,they are called Quick & Easy tan,they are in a baby wipe packet and thats all they are just like a baby wipe,
You will be really pleased with them they are brill,no streaks either,but i always exfoliate the night before i use them,
I tend to use one every other day to keep my colour up,
Give them a go you'll be suprised..:thumbsup:

well, it's an old one but still nice. Audrey Hepburn's favourite poem

"For attractive lips, speak words of kindness.
For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people.
For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry.
For beautiful hair, let a child run his fingers through
it once a day.
For poise, walk with the knowledge you'll never walk
alone ...
People, even more than things, have to be restored,
renewed, revived, reclaimed
and redeemed and redeemed and redeemed.
Never throw out anybody.
Remember, if you ever need a helping hand,
you'll find one at the end of your arm.
As you grow older you will discover that you have two
hands.
One for helping yourself, the other for helping others."

If you'd asked me this question about 2 years ago I would have said what a waste of time and money; it doesnt make any difference. I've changed my mind on this entirely.

What caused my change of mind: Being disabled and the highly offensive reaction which happens far too often for my liking to a serious disability.

Now when I go out and about I wear make-up; not much but just enough to be smart without being OTT. A little lipstick, eyeshadow, define my eyebrows, a little blusher and some illuminous non-colour stuff. I also try to make sure my hair is cut well on a fairly regular basis.

Conclusion: It does seem to make a difference which has nothing to do with my confidence levels.

I think of the grouchy old bat from Emmerdale. Not that I watch it obviously....shhhh

;)

That's the daft old bat who never takes her hat off isn't it. :loopy: Always thought she was a bit barmy to be honest.

I'm sure our Edna is far from that though. :)

That's the daft old bat who never takes her hat off isn't it. :loopy: Always thought she was a bit barmy to be honest.

I'm sure our Edna is far from that though. :)

She's as mad as a box of frogs, but she's got moral fibre.

Our Edna looks nowt like her. Mind you, give her a hat and......:hihi:

Jk!

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Our Edna looks nowt like her. Mind you, give her a hat and......:hihi:

Jk!

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As in Jamiroquai??? :o

Tsk. I take back everything I said about not wearing the makeup! I've not shaved in a long time but... still!

Wouldn't mind his cars though. :D

lolol....noooo.......jk meant 'Joke' ;)

but if the cap fits....:hihi:

No one can force you to wear make-up at work, yes they can say something if you wear too much make up, but they cannot insist that you wear it. If your boss was to force you, or at least insist that you wear make-up at work you would probably have a case for bullying & harrasment, its a very fine line as to what acceptable behavious is from your boss. So if he/she insists because the other women in the office are wearing make-up you should then this is wrong. You are an individual, all your boss can ask is that you are presentable to profession standards, eg clean and tidy (ironed clothes).

Well thanks for your comments all.

I don't work for that guy any more, he was a right sleaze. At the time I just said "ok, give me thirty quid and I'll get to Boots" and he left it.

I know that no-one can make me wear make-up. And to be honest now I'm not a teenage waitress any more I doubt anyone will have the gall to ask (and god help them if they do!) I hope it will be my effortless competence and brusque efficiency that will trundle me along my career path and not the way I look.

Maybe I will take the advice and try a makeover just to see how it looks. Any offers to 'do me up'? :hihi: Or can you reccomend a good place?

I don't wear make-up at work (only when the evening before's drinking session dictates human looking effort)

I didn't get a job once because of it, and have since been told that 'it doesn't cost the earth for a pretty pair of shoes'...and that 'wearing make=up proves you care about your self'!! lol - I quit that job not long after!!

In the make-up situation, I think you should do whatever you feel comfortable doing not what you're either 'told' to do or feel you should!

Well thanks for your comments all.

Maybe I will take the advice and try a makeover just to see how it looks. Any offers to 'do me up'? :hihi: Or can you reccomend a good place?

P.M. me Kathy if you are serious as I still do this in my spare time and I'll give you more details.

I've been out with foundation on once in my entire life! It felt weird, like I was hiding. Plus I was so conscious all nite that I couldn't touch my face, rub my eyes or whatever.. which was annoying.

Normally I just wear eyeliner and occasionally some clear mascara. I might go for a make over one day just to see what I would look like with professionally applied make up - but it would have to be really natural looking.

I don't wear make-up very often at all and never for work. I am the exception among the women at work, but I can say quite honestly that I am the best turned out person there, I'm the only one who actually makes an effort to dress smartly and look professional. However I have worked in places where the women have immaculate make-up and dress and I have sometimes felt like they thought I wasn't making enough of an effort, but nothing was ever said, and I certainly don't feel it hampered my career there as I was offered a promotion several times.

I don't wear it for several reasons. Firstly I just don't like the look of it on me. I don't suit make-up. Even when someone does it for me really nicely I still feel like I must look like a clown, it just seems so fake. Especially listick for some reason, my lips look fine without it, but with it (even with lipliner) they don't seem to have a definite edge and just look a mess. I've never understood the point of foundation (why smear something on your face that is the exact same colour as your skin and is meant to just disappear into it?!?). I also think some women in the office look ridiculous at times. I was at a conference on Friday and one of the organisers came to talk to me and I couldn't stop looking at the crap she'd caked on her face and 3mm thick eyeliner - I don't think it looks professional at all, and indeed many companies will have guidelines in their dress code about not wearing too much make-up.

Secondly it feels horrible on. I feel like my skin can't breathe, and that I have to be really careful not to smear it. Plus it's just so much trouble - really difficult to get it right and then you have to keep touching it up all day.

And thirdly my skin is quite sensitive and I have had some bad reactions to make-up in the past. This includes getting dry patches from make-up that I have worn before without problem and that takes ages to heal. I also had a VERY bad reaction to an eyeliner once - I only tried it on then took it off after a few minutes and when I woke up the next morning I couldn't open my eyes because my eyelids were so swollen and I had white blisters all over my eyelids.

So even when I go out I don't wear much. And IMHO I think the vast majority of women look much better without - I can't understand all this worry about not leaving the house without it on!!

I don't think you will be disadvantaged in 'life' if you don't wear make up. Though there is the added reality of how you will be perceived and seen if you don't. However, it's still a personal choice. When at work, I don't think you should be sacked for not wearing any, if your image is one that is presentable already. Saying that, what is being 'presentable' ? This is subjective to each individual, and of course, to the person that employs you.

I actually thought about this when I started my working life. My first boss was female, and she did give me the company's handbook to read. Yes, there is a distinctive description of how an employee should conduct themselves when being employed by the company. It stated how your skirt/dress should be below knee's length. It mentioned how male employee should wear a shirt and tie if not a whole suit. The list goes on... I know a few of us did push that boundary somewhat, and some ppl wore sandals in the summer, bearing her toes with no socks ! But she didn't say anything. Well, we changed boss then. The male boss didn't say anything. I'm not sure if he is aware of the rules in the handbook himself.

I can understand if an employer insist on you being clean and smarten yourself up when working for them. Afterall, they have an image of professionalism to uphold. I know some IT companies' ethics allow you to dress in casual attires. Yet when seeing clients, you need to wear a suit/smart work wear.

I have also worked as a waitress, and I am made to wear a 'uniform'. Yes, one of those gimmicky tops which sell the food cos it have that added authenticity. I felt like a monkey (!)

I know I'm diverting from make-up a little bit, but my point is that, sometimes you do have to listen to the employer, especially when it comes to company ethics/rules/handbooks. When it comes to make-up, this is somewhat hazy, and not as strict as say your work clothes.

I find that make-up obviously works. Otherwise I wouldn't have comments like, 'you look happy today' in a nightclub, (cos I plucked my eyebrows and used some eyelid tints which reflected light and give that 'glowy' effect). I've also had compliments when out in Xmas work's do, cos I made an effort. Yes, the guys commented that I looked 'nice'. As opposed to what ? I thought. Sheesh... Yes it is hard being a woman sometimes. Pah.

No, I never did wear any make-up when I was at work. Do I believe in less is more ? Yes. Do I believe in applying make-up to look like there's no make-up ? Yes. Have I found the prefect coloured foundation to date for my face ? No. I don't think it exists... I'm still searching... when I can be bothered.

It's a difficult question to answer, Kathythebean.

There's a correct answer for living in the world as it should be, and there's a correct answer for living in the world of work as it exists in reality.

Of course no-one should have the right to tell you to wear make-up - or the right to tell you not to wear make-up. It's such a personal thing.

However - if I'm being completely honest here, I have to admit that in a work situation, I feel a woman wearing tasteful make-up is taken more seriously and with more gravitas than a woman who doesn't wear make-up. The emphasis is on the word 'tasteful' though - overdone or badly applied make-up just looks terrible and very unprofessional.

I think a well-made-up woman just looks more confident and in control and gives off a more professional vibe. It's wrong to judge people's motivation and competence, etc by their appearance, but I think to a degree it's inevitable.

Also - again, it's not reasonable or fair, but if a woman has obviously taken time and trouble to get made up, I think it does indicate she's 'made an effort' to make herself presentable to other people. Not saying that she wouldn't be perfectly presentable without make-up, but it's the perception.

I feel a bit dirty saying this - I know it's not 'morally' right, but I think it's how things are. :(

StarSparkle

Hi Kathythebean

My first reaction was to think that you should present yourself in whatever way you feel most comfortable.

Then I did some more thinking…. I dress relatively smartly where I work. I’m a great believer that if you know you look good, then you’ll feel better about yourself and be more self confident. Other people will get a better impression of you and treat you with more respect due to both how you look and how self confident you are. This will further boost your ego and so the upward spiral goes on.

Clearly you must be comfortable with your look, a ball gown and tiara might be too much for work. However, in answer to your question: yes, if it makes you feel more self assured, you will probably be better off if you wore makeup.

Hiya Kathy
just to let you know that i admire people like you and wish i had the confidence to go without make up. At the end of the day its how you feel and NO-ONE should feel like they should wear it. Its how you feel and that makes you the person you are. I wear make up every day whether i'm going to work' going to the shop or simply staying in...(cos you never know who may come and visit) if i didn't wear make-up i'd be a different person i'd be quiet with no confidence at all!

I totally aggree with this i guess it depends on the type of person you are and how confident you are in yourself - if you are happy without wearing makeup then good for you. I dont wear it jus to go to shops etc but i always feel really nervous, ugly and totally lack confidence when im not wearing make-up. I wear make-up because it makes me feel better like im hiding the ugly and therefore people wont talk about me or slag me off etc. It gives me much more confidence and i find im a more outgoing person who can talk to anyone when im hidden behind my painted face - much in the same way i guess as how people who sit behind computer screens can find their voice when they are really very shy in the outside world. I find that people do treat me differently when im made-up although i dont know whether thats because i look different or because of the extra confidence. however i do find that i get more attention from blokes when i'm wearing make-up etc and that does further boost my confidence and make me more outgoing.

If your a confident, outgoing and bubbly person who is genuine and gets on with everyone then there is really no need for you to wear makeup if people (including yourself) are happy with you the way you are. I wear it cos i feel that people wouldnt like me the way i am and i know that other peoples opinions shouldnt matter but of course they do - if someone casts judgement then you are bound to be hurt a little even if you are good at hiding it. My advice is just do what makes you happy.

hazel xx

Hi kathy my wife never did more than a light dusting on rare occasions,It must have worked because she got me.And how can one gild a lily

Hi kathy my wife never did more than a light dusting on rare occasions,It must have worked because she got me.And how can one gild a lily
What a lovely comment :) .

You are an individual, all your boss can ask is that you are presentable to profession standards, eg clean and tidy (ironed clothes).
I know I'm not a woman, but I'm supposed to iron clothes for work???

;)

Can anyone lend me some mascara? It would appear Kristian has singed my eyelashes..:suspect:

I not sure about the effect at work but I've many times seen the effect of a lot of makeup has on men, who I have heard say they prefer a women to have a natural look when their natural faced wives are there, but who make complete fools of themselves when confronted by the fully made up expensively dressed woman.
What I am trying to say is I suppose is, it depends on what image you want to produce and the ficklness of some of the male species.
hazel