At the risk of seeming like everyones mum - I've noticed more than the odd bit of personal abuse floating around on the forums recently - any chance we could keep things a bit lighter - just cos you dont agree with someones oppinions theres no need to slag them off!

Very well said 'e'.

:thumbsup:

Indeed.

And apologies for banging on about this but in my opinion most people here get on great, there's only *cough* certain Ecclesall residents *cough* who really cause arguments.

I'm sure he does it on purpose as well, git.

Now, now Rich. Uncalled for.

The gent in question puts up some valid arguments.

Its us who bite a bit too quickly me thinks.

There t020, you owe me one buddy:thumbsup:

And guess what. We've just managed to include Ecclesall in ANOTHER thread.

HOW DO WE DO IT?:confused:

Politeness is something I pride myself on, yes indeed.

People who get personal and start slagging others off ... say much more about themselves than the person they are directing their comments at.

Originally posted by Sam Miguel
Politeness is something I pride myself on, yes indeed.

With the exception of pigeons, cats, grit bins, pavements, chinese scientists etc of course:P

Originally posted by markham
With the exception of pigeons, cats, grit bins, pavements, chinese scientists etc of course:P

But my e mail to the Lord Mayor is extremely polite.

I agree. I've had a couple of people recently have personal goes at me and I don't think I did anything wrong to be honest. Just stated an opinion in one case, and received some really nasty personal remarks and in the other posted a warning to others regarding leaseholds and got some abuse!

I enjoy a good debate but don't think it's necessary for people to get that personal. If they don't agree with my view that's fair enough but they should be mature and debate it in an adult way!

:)

Quite a while ago someone made some very uncalled for comments to me which I took very personally. The remarks were totally untrue as to my character. Anyway it may not have been a big deal to anyone else but it quite upset me and annoyed me very much. A lately I have kept away from anything racial, political or religious for fear that my opinions would be disagreed and argued with. I don't have a very thick skin at all.
Name calling is very childish!

As a long term Net user ('acquired' my first bit of Internet access in the early 1980s, I've found that as the online population has come to reflect the general population more, and as the amount of moderation in forums has declined to 'sensible' levels, the amount of personal abuse has gone up.

I guess it's the same as 'flaming' used to be on Newsgroups - not nice but you eventually learn who the dolts are and just avoid their postings.

I don't know whether you can do it in this forum but some allow you to 'killfile' people you don't want to hear from.

I TRY to be polite online - I think that because you're not within striking or beer-throwing distance of the other people (and don't even know what they look or sound like in many cases) some folks tend to be a lot less restrained than in real-life chat.

I try and treat people online as I do people offline.

Joe

Originally posted by Funke88
Quite a while ago someone made some very uncalled for comments to me which I took very personally. The remarks were totally untrue as to my character. Anyway it may not have been a big deal to anyone else but it quite upset me and annoyed me very much. A lately I have kept away from anything racial, political or religious for fear that my opinions would be disagreed and argued with. I don't have a very thick skin at all.
Name calling is very childish!

Poor you. I do know what you mean. My character was slanted also, and I like to think I am a fair person who is generally good to people from all backgrounds and walks of life. In a way, it is slander but I don't know what the laws are on doing anything about it. All I could do was disagree with what they said about me. Luckily, not too many people know who I really am, otherwise I would have been extremelly annoyed!

I'm sorry that you feel forced to not speak your opinions in the threads you mention. Freedom of speach seems to have gone out of the window since as soon as we say anything whether controversial or not, you get accused of all sorts. A simple disagreement would do, personal insults aimed at specific users are a sign of someone not being able to make a good argument back!

Just a quick opine' on this...

You'll find that the people who are arrogant, overbearing and insulting invariably refuse point blank to meet or see anyone offline... mainly because they see the net as an alter ego... or a chance to be an idiot

Not always the case but certainly the rule rather than the exception...


The reverse is often true of those who see the net as just an extension of other tools they use to communicate with... and who are thus themselves online and off...



That said.. it's easy to slip into the "null consequences" or "instant gratification" mode of posting/emailing/etc... so the old thing we all heard from our parents applies.. "engage brain before opening mouth"... :D

Originally posted by Martin_s
Just a quick opine' on this...

You'll find that the people who are arrogant, overbearing and insulting invariably refuse point blank to meet or see anyone offline... mainly because they see the net as an alter ego... or a chance to be an idiot

Not always the case but certainly the rule rather than the exception...

The reverse is often true of those who see the net as just an extension of other tools they use to communicate with... and who are thus themselves online and off...


It could also mean that they already have friends and a social life and don't need the internet as a excuse for meeting people?

Originally posted by Martin_s
Just a quick opine' on this...

You'll find that the people who are arrogant, overbearing and insulting invariably refuse point blank to meet or see anyone offline... mainly because they see the net as an alter ego... or a chance to be an idiot

On the other hand, sometimes people are delighted to meet other users, make friends with them and spend time with them. Unfortunately on occasion you can be wrong about someone, find out that they are not the person you thought they were...

It is not as easy as it sounds

Vehemently arguing with someone else's point of view is not making personal remarks about them....

None of us like being argued vehemently with, but, as parents are taught these days in parenting classes, it is the "behaviour" that others object to, not the person themselves

Originally posted by mojoworking
It could also mean that they already have friends and a social life and don't need the internet as a excuse for meeting people?

The two are mutually exclusive?

I've got friends and a social life, and have met people from the internet. I like meeting new people.
I've also been introduced to people who my friends have met off the net.

Originally posted by mojoworking
It could also mean that they already have friends and a social life and don't need the internet as a excuse for meeting people?
I don't think anyone should really feel that they have the right to be a complete arse on here just because they're all cozy and happy with their own friends who they would never treat with the level of disrespect and arrogance you see on here...

There are some people on here who are making real and lasting friendships because they've moved into the area and need a bit of a kick start, or simply because they've opened their circle of friends somewhat to include people they might not normally come into contact with... I certainly benefitted :)


Ultimately though, it all comes down to the rules of the community and the use of the ignore function.. if someone just enjoys being a troll it's easy enough to just ignore them and get on with life... or.. if worse comes to worse, just leave completely... life's too short to waste on idiots..

nuff said.. :)

Originally posted by Martin_s
I don't think anyone should really feel that they have the right to be a complete arse on here just because they're all cozy and happy with their own friends who they would never treat with the level of disrespect and arrogance you see on here...

There are some people on here who are making real and lasting friendships because they've moved into the area and need a bit of a kick start, or simply because they've opened their circle of friends somewhat to include people they might not normally come into contact with... I certainly benefitted :)


Ultimately though, it all comes down to the rules of the community and the use of the ignore function.. if someone just enjoys being a troll it's easy enough to just ignore them and get on with life... or.. if worse comes to worse, just leave completely... life's too short to waste on idiots..

nuff said.. :)

That's all true. I just wanted to point out that if some people don't feel a burning desire to become buddies or socialise with those they encounter on the net, then maybe that shouldn't be held against them.

I have no friends or social life.

So am desperately trying to make some here ... I am sooooo lonely *cries*.

Please be my friend ... hehehe.

Ahh poor babes *hugs*

somehow though, I don't believe you!! Are you fibbing now??!!

Originally posted by Foxxx
Ahh poor babes *hugs*

somehow though, I don't believe you!! Are you fibbing now??!!

Only fibbing a bit Foxxx ... actually I do feel quite lonely sometimes ... I work alone at home ... and if I didn't go out exercising or dancing in the evenings I would go mad.

Wasn't fibbing about the like to make more friends ... nothing wrong with that !!.

You a train spotter then Jamie? (he asks VERY politely!):thumbsup:

Originally posted by mojoworking
That's all true. I just wanted to point out that if some people don't feel a burning desire to become buddies or socialise with those they encounter on the net, then maybe that shouldn't be held against them.
I'm all for people having an opinion.. or being able to engage in constructive conversation.. nor do I think that it's a requirement to turn up for a meeting, real life, etc...

BUT.. I don't see any need for some people to treat this forum as their personal head ***** playground in which to play with peoples minds or insult them... Plenty of it goes on and there's been more than one person who've stated outright that they like nothing better than to wind people up...

I guess, in summary, I'm all for mutual respect..

Originally posted by markham
You a train spotter then Jamie? (he asks VERY politely!):thumbsup:

Hmm ... Do I sound like one !!?

You're not looking for a train spotting buddy are you markham !?

I wouldn't mind giving it a go ... I don't see anything wrong with geeky trainspotter types ... likewise ... I also see nothing wrong with outgoing fun loving extroverts.

:thumbsup:

Originally posted by Martin_s
I'm all for people having an opinion.. or being able to engage in constructive conversation.. nor do I think that it's a requirement to turn up for a meeting, real life, etc...

BUT.. I don't see any need for some people to treat this forum as their personal head ***** playground in which to play with peoples minds or insult them... Plenty of it goes on and there's been more than one person who've stated outright that they like nothing better than to wind people up...

I guess, in summary, I'm all for mutual respect..

You're correct, of course. That shouldn't happen.

Originally posted by mojoworking
You're correct, of course. That shouldn't happen.

Psss.. don't tell anyone but I think we've agreed on something... :o

:thumbsup:

Originally posted by Martin_s
Psss.. don't tell anyone but I think we've agreed on something... :o

:thumbsup:

I don't recall having a disagreement with you before? :)

Originally posted by Jamie
I have no friends or social life.

So am desperately trying to make some here ... I am sooooo lonely *cries*.

Please be my friend ... hehehe.

Sorry Jamie, I was (humourously) responding to the above quote, but by the time I posted it another previous post had made it look out of context.

Nah!! Tried trainspotting once. Spent all day on the Parkway and never saw a single one.:thumbsup:

No problem markham ... happens to me all the time !!

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Are is everybody getting at you Jamie? Am sure you must have got some friends ......................