after 10 months i thought i'd pretty much worked jayden out.. but apparently not. she has been crying her eyes out for over an hour now and i dont know how to stop her! she had only just woken up when she started but i have given her some tea.. tried to give her milk, walked around, winded her, tried to play with her, even given her some calpol as she has banged her head a few times today falling over.. now she is wrapped up tightly in a blanket and in her cot. doesnt seem to be calming down at all though.. HELP!!!! :confused: :sad: :cry:

Oh sweetie I hope your ok.

Have you tried singing to her and just laying with her and stroking her cheek or forehead...

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I'd say, fish her back out and try walking around talking and crooning to her. Y'know, loving her and talking to her softly. Try a bit of gentle soothing stroking too.

Give it a go?? Not saying you haven't, but it'd make you both feel better right now.

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Have you tried rocking her or holding her against your chest so she can ear your heartbeat? Also does she have teeth still coming through which could be causing her pain?

Is she teething?

Is she teething Helen ? she may be getting some back teeth, are her cheeks red ? feel inside her mouth , carefully along her gum. If so try her with some Nurofen instead for the pain , she is old enough to have it now and it will help her sleep.

Of course one of the symptoms they tell you to look for in books as a sign of illness is when your child is 'inconsolable', though none of them really seem to define what inconsolable is exactly. Might be worth keeping a fairly close eye on her for a bit, or take her temperature perhaps. Having said that, ours did this now and again and there was nothing wrong with her at all.

Could she be constipated or something like that, its a hard one probably unrelated to the bump on the head, but keep a close eye and prehaps contact NHS direct if she doen't calm down in another couple of hours.I understand how worrying it can be my little girl is all floppy and she wont sit up and eat anything, think its just a bit of cold though. It is so worrying when you feel so helpless, hope she is ok, good luck.

If it's not teething, it could be a cold, bit of a fever or maybe one of those days. It aint easy but hopefully he;ll give you some sleep SataninHeels. My little girl loves the bath, will that help??

thanks! think she may be teething as she has been a bit 'off' for a couple of days now.. either that or is just in a very bad mood. i have now tried lying with her which she didnt like.. have spent an awful lot of time walking round cuddling her n talkin etc.. she is getting very big now and very strong which doesnt help when she is trying to get away from me! dont think my increasing anxiety is going to help matters

hope ya little un is okay bjshooter!

You're right. So chill. If she feels loved and secure, that's a big thing. I'd still stay with her, trying to soothe her. We've all been there................. but at least while ever you're next to her, talking to her and trying to make her feel better, she'll know that you're there.

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Calpol is all you can do then i'm afraid, sometimes bonjela helps and a dummy. you'll have forgot all about it in a few days (hopefully :D)

Does she have 'rosy cheeks' thats a pretty usual sign of teething :) Hopefully she will settle down soon!

My trouble and strife of 41 years, 3 kids of our own, says it could well be the teething problem, Satin.......:)

Aww sweetie!

I hope she calms down soon, you've obviously gone back to her so you're not here right now.

I'm not a parent so can't really give my opinion, but I babysit and the one thing that doesn't fail with any of the babies I look after is to lay against the sofa or something, not flat but sort of 'slumped' and lay them on my chest so that they're sort of laid down too.

You've probably tried this because you're a mum and I'm not but there you go!

Also - a trick my parents used with me (I had collick (sp?) and screamed constantly) as a baby was to put me in the car seat and put it on top of the washing machine and set the washing machine off. Apparently it worked 99% of the time and they never got behind with the washing!

I hope things have calmed down a little!

hope ya little un is okay bjshooter!

Sure she will be thanks, People are probably right that your little one is teething, it can bring on all king of strange symtoms including an upset stomach, and cold like symtoms, it is definately a hard time for a mum when their child is teething, so double good luck from me.

Try puttng a teething ring in the freezer that numbs the pain and seems to help.

yay.. crying has gone from constant to stopping and starting which is an improvement. she doesnt have any redder cheeks than usual but she has a rash on the side of her head... does tht count? she still doesnt seem to have any intention of having her bottle or going to bed tho.. perhaps a walk to the shop might make her sleep. thanks for everyones replies XX

Hey hunni, as many others on here know how you feel so do i.. Our littlest is just over 1 now and we have had same probs with her sometimes. Best thing to do is not to get stressed yourself as babies seem to know when your at your wits end.. Easier said than done sometimes! All I can suggest otherwise is same as everyone else, try singing to her, get her settled on your knee with a picture book or just try and cuddle. Have you tried controlled crying? Put her in bed leave her for 2 mins then go back in and just lay her down and come back out, dont even speak to her. Sounds awful I know, but it does work. Each time just leave her a few more minutes. It could go on for ages, but honest it does work. Good luck anyway and I think there are plenty of people here you can rant and rave too..
Hugs
Aims x

Sorry - just read the replies!

When I've looked after minisav while she was teething, Savbaby used to give her bonjela on a dummy and I have to say I think it did work so you may want to try it.

Alternatively, there's always sleeping tablets ;)
joking!

Hey just seen your nxt post, dont worry too much bout rash on her face hun as our daughter goes all blotchy when she has been crying for a while. Just keep an eye on it ok..
Aims x

we started doing the controlled crying thing few weeks ago and she has been going to bed fine since a feways of that. alhough i have tried to give her one tonight, she hasnt ever had a dummy lotti so thats out a bit.. she seems happier at the minute, although she has cleared all the junk off my computer desk onto the floor and is now destroying owt she can get hold of

Thats the satanic genes coming out - have you been feeding her fire and brimstone again?

Oh dear! Sounds like chaos over there!

I have to say I love this photo (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/satan_in_heels/bad27d45.jpg) of her!

Have you tried the washing machine thing? It might not work but it might - the motion tends to send most kids off and when it works you won't come away still rocking and bouncing from sending her off!

cleared all the junk off my computer desk onto the floor and is now destroying owt she can get hold of

Now that sounds like a very normal contented 10mth old child to me.

Hang on in there, we have been walking the floor a lot with our little treasure. She is either teething or taking ages to get over this flu that we have all had. Just dont let it get you down. If you feel it getting to you, pop her in her cot, make sure she is safe and make yourself a nice cuppa (or whatever you like - even log on!) until you feel ready to go in and cope with it. They are not little like this for long and it soon passes!

And maybe she'll get worn out soon and itll make her have a full nights sleep :o

finally.. one sleeping baby! didnt dare try the washing machine thing lotti.. she is a bit big for the baby car seat now and not sure the big one will balance on the washer.. half an hour walking round outside in the dark seems to have worked though. thanks again for everyones help.. time for pizza, happy pills and alcohol i think XX

finally.. one sleeping baby! didnt dare try the washing machine thing lotti.. she is a bit big for the baby car seat now and not sure the big one will balance on the washer.. half an hour walking round outside in the dark seems to have worked though. thanks again for everyones help.. time for pizza, happy pills and alcohol i think XX

:clap: :clap: Well done. Relax and enjoy the rest.

YAY! Glad she is asleep (and by the sounds of it you will be too soon!)

It's also so nice that someone can post a problem like this and get so many helpfull responses so quickly :)

Im really pleased she is asleep and hopefully she will have worn her self out and will have a good long kip.

I have briefly heard of the controlled crying thing, something like calm them down, then go out and leave them for a few mins then go back in. Can someone explain it more fully to me and also the age at which it can be started? Our little one will NOT go down to sleep on her own and will not stay asleep for very long. I think its because her mum sleeps with her in her bed at night, but I think its storing up trouble for later! I thought 3 months might be too young for controlled crying though. I am trying to encourage my daughter to put her into the big cot at night, cos she never really settled in the moses basket. Any advice welcome!

it was suggested to me by my health visitor that i tried controlled crying when jayden was a few months old as she was going to sleep breastfeeding and then into her cot asleep and she said that was a very bad habit to get into. she said at the time to wrap her up in blankets etc and put her in her cot. leave the room for 2 minutes and then return to reassure her, check she is okay then leave again, without speaking to her if possible. she said when they are that young (i think she said like under 6 months) its best to keep the time you are out of the room fairly short.. say 2 minutes each time.... but when i did it a few weeks ago when jayden was coming up to 10 months we left her for 2 minutes then increased the time everytime we went in. found after the first night it only upset her more us going into the room though and went in much less frequently. X

This sounds much kinder than the method I used with my son (who is now 23!). We will give it a try soon, but she is spoilt rotten, passed from my daughter to me to my partner and we all tend to walk round with her when she is crying. She has been very unsettled lately though.

When her big brother came to live with us (I am the grandmother btw) he was 18 months and had only ever slept with his mum and had gone to sleep breastfeeding. It was a huge prob to get him to bed at night and he has only just started sleeping through! This is why I want to try and get it right with his baby sister.

I know she finally drifted off to sleep... but did anyone mention about going for a bit of drive... that usually helps babies sleep maybe try that next time... should there be one...

Hope your ok in yourself too satin... must be stressful and cant help feeling helpless... this little person crying out unable to speak to tell you what is wrong... it can really pull on the heart strings...

All the best... *hugs*

A xx

thanks angel.. would have tried that.. except that i cant drive and my bloke is out tonight so would have struggled with that! pram works just as well though i guess.. even tho its so cold out! XX

I know she finally drifted off to sleep... but did anyone mention about going for a bit of drive... that usually helps babies sleep maybe try that next time... should there be one...


What is it with children and cars even at four my little girl will fall asleep almost ever time she is in a car, only problem is she wakkes up when the engine stops, so you can be driving for hours, but sometimes it is worth it, for that little bit of quiet time. Glad you have managed to settle her, get yourself a glass of wine and a chocolate bar, you deserve it.:)

well.. shes up again. still has a rash all over her head and doesnt seem to have any intention of drinking a bottle or going back down. great.

A child crying for an hour before sleeping is not a good sign.
Especially if they start crying again when they awake.

I will qualify that with saying there are different kids of crying that a mother should know.

If you do not have a thermometer to check the child's temperature you should be calling your 'out of hours' doctors service.

Who will almost certainly say "take her to hospital".

Edit: Sheffield Childrens Hospital is fantastic.
Always ask them before this forum!

Have you done the glass test on the rash? Take a glass and press it down on the rash, if it does not fade while the glass is pressed on it, seek immediate medical attention as it could be meningitis. Don't mean to alarm you, but that is what they say. ''Red or purple spots anywhere spots anywhere on the body which do not fade under pressure.''

Other symptoms can include high pithched crying.

after a night of listening to her scream phoned the gp this morning.. apparently sounds like a viral infection then he said something about an ear infection.. not sure if they are the same thing but anyways.. least i sorta know now X

Let us know how you get on. Whenever my little girl (14 months) has had an infection (chest/ear) she always comes out in a rash. Looks like you'll be having the Amoxycillin i'd guess. It's never easy when they are ill as she wont settle, the worst period was the aftereffects of the MMR. Wait for that!!