I think all horse riders should carry with them pooper scoopers for when the
horse decides to drop it's load on the road.If it's good enough for dog owners it's good enough for them .

I think all horse riders should carry with them pooper scoopers for when there
horse decides to drop it's load on the road.If it's good enough for dog owners it's good enough for them .

I think they'd need a shovel and sack :hihi: good idea though:smile:

It drives me mad - Horseriders should be responsible for their horses poop.
I always pick up my doggies doo. So should they, and dear god what a smell !!

I think all horse riders should carry with them pooper scoopers for when the
horse decides to drop it's load on the road.If it's good enough for dog owners it's good enough for them .

You and Kirky ought to be locked up Starting Threads like this, at this time of night. I shall be laughing till morning at this rate.........Oh the possibilities of having fun with this one...............

At least horse crap is 90% straw, and it doesnt smell as awful as dog crap!

Get it round yer rhubarb!

Joel

At least horse crap is 90% straw, and it doesnt smell as awful as dog crap!

Get it round yer rhubarb!

Joel

You leave my rhubarb alone:) .....

I think all horse riders should carry with them pooper scoopers for when the
horse decides to drop it's load on the road.If it's good enough for dog owners it's good enough for them .

Good idea. Why should they get away with it?

Get it round yer rhubarb!

Prefer custard with mine TBH. :thumbsup:

Good idea. Why should they get away with it?


Prefer custard with mine TBH. :thumbsup:

You can do what you want rudeboy, it's your rhubarb :thumbsup:

I was saying this to my girlfriend the other day, one rule for dog owners another for horse owners! :rant:

They'd need a wheelie bin liner to collect it in - how would they carry that load!:hihi:

Couldnt help but laugh when i saw the title of this thread... what a great idea... lol

Its not gonna be as delicate as a little doggy poop scoop :hihi: like someone had already mentioned... think its gonna have to be a shovel... :wink:

Rider shovel back packs to be put into production... or another option is to have a poopy runner... someone runs along side the rider pooper scooping... :hihi:

Carazy!

I could hire my labradors out the rate they eat it. :gag: .

Think of the money I could make though If I charged per kilo they ate :D

I could hire my labradors out the rate they eat it. :gag: .

Think of the money I could make though If I charged per kilo they ate :D

:hihi:. Mine used to do the same although he's seemed to have packed it now thankfully :D

And continuing with hiring the horses out, maybe to the fire brigade beacuse have you seen these things pish :hihi:

They'd need a wheelie bin liner to collect it in - how would they carry that load!:hihi:

carry it on the horse? :loopy:

You lot are so far behind the times !!!! :hihi:

All you need is a STABLEMAID (http://www.cyberhorse.net.au/stablemaid/)!

This has been debated countless times on the forum. Horses eat a strictly vegetarian diet thus their waste isn't harmful to humans. Dogs are omnivores and their waste carries dangerous bacteria.

That's a great idea in theory but it is hard enough to control a horse on the road at the best of times without trying to get on and off and keep hold as we shovel admist the traffic. I understand that it is a nuisance, but it is not a health and safety risk in the same way the dog muck is and yes in an ideal world we would pick it up, but in the same ideal road we would not have to ride down main roads to get to the fields and bridlepaths in the first place. If so much of the horseriding land hadnt been built over this problem wouldn't exist.

Trust me noone who rides wants to go on the road. It is no fun at all, but we have no choice.

I must be missing something here ... how many mountains of horse poo do you see around? How many times do you see it on the foot path or in your local park?

What a typical townie remark ... lets sanitise everything shall we!

Dog poo is usually found on the footpath or in a park so is obviously going to come into contact with humans. As its harmful especially to children it should be removed. Horse poo is non harmful to humans and found in fields (not public) and on the roads (rarely) and thus does not come into contact with humans unless they participate in some equine sports.

This has been debated countless times on the forum. Horses eat a strictly vegetarian diet thus their waste isn't harmful to humans. Dogs are omnivores and their waste carries dangerous bacteria.
I still don't really want the underside of my car coated in the stuff though. :rolleyes:

I still don't really want the underside of my car coated in the stuff though. :rolleyes:

Why one earth not? When dry it forms an excellent corrosion resistant layer.

I still don't really want the underside of my car coated in the stuff though. :rolleyes:

I’m sure most horse riders don’t want the inside of their horses lungs or their own coated in your obnoxious and highly toxic fumes being belched from your car either!

Why one earth not? When dry it forms an excellent corrosion resistant layer.

Because I don't wish to have horse excrement on my car.....simple.

I must be missing something here ... how many mountains of horse poo do you see around? How many times do you see it on the foot path or in your local park?

What a typical townie remark ... lets sanitise everything shall we!

Dog poo is usually found on the footpath or in a park so is obviously going to come into contact with humans. As its harmful especially to children it should be removed. Horse poo is non harmful to humans and found in fields (not public) and on the roads (rarely) and thus does not come into contact with humans unless they participate in some equine sports.

I disagree i've seen horse poo on many foot paths, if you can afford and have the time to keep a horse you should be responsible for it.

If I drop an apple core on the floor its classed as litter, may not be harmful to humans but its still wrong.

I noticed on Holiday once (I think I was in Antwerp) that the horse and carriage things they had there also had a 'sack' hung below the back end of the horse and attached to the underside of the carriage, purely for catching the poo!!
Works with carriages but not horses on their own... maybe a horse nappy???

There are always people that break the rules though - you aren't supposed to ride on footpaths and responsible riders don't - at the same time you aren't supposed to ride mopeds or quad biikes or the like on bridle paths and irresponsible people do.

There are always people that break the rules though - you aren't supposed to ride on footpaths and responsible riders don't - at the same time you aren't supposed to ride mopeds or quad biikes or the like on bridle paths and irresponsible people do.


mopeds and quad bikes don't crap allover the place though :hihi:

no they just churn up the paths and make them unusable .

I noticed on Holiday once (I think I was in Antwerp) that the horse and carriage things they had there also had a 'sack' hung below the back end of the horse and attached to the underside of the carriage, purely for catching the poo!!
Works with carriages but not horses on their own... maybe a horse nappy???

Did you bother to read this:

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=916065&postcount=15

... or to click on the link ? :confused:

Oh dear, dear me!

Without wanting to take the bait:

1. It's not harmful like dog poo due to horses being vegetarian
2. If your dog poos in the road - it is not obligatory to pick it up - only on footpaths
3. Can you even imagine the trouble people would have trying to a) carry a shovel and binbag around, b) getting off the horse to pick it up c) disposing of binbag and d) getting back on the horse?!
4. This has been discussed countless times before
5. You only started the thread to wind people up!

:loopy:

1. It's not harmful like dog poo due to horses being vegetarian

So you'd be happy if vegetarians just started cr@pping in the street?


2. If your dog poos in the road - it is not obligatory to pick it up - only on footpaths

This statement is not correct.

All public land is covered by the Dogs (Fouling of Land Act) 1996 including land as listed below, although public rights of way that traverse privately owned agricultural land has been exempted from the legislation.
(a) Pavements
(b) Parks and children's play areas
(c) Public rights of way
(d) Publicly owner land and facilities
(e) Public Highways

Did you bother to read this:

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=916065&postcount=15

... or to click on the link ? :confused:

welll I'm SOOOOO sorry!

I don't click on all the links as i have stupidly slow dialup and it takes forever and slows everything on my computer down... in future though i promise i'll take half an hour to read every post!

So you'd be happy if vegetarians just started cr@pping in the street?

OMG can’t you see the difference between an animal which is genetically vegetarian and a human who has chosen to be a veggie? :loopy:

OMG can’t you see the difference between an animal which is genetically vegetarian and a human who has chosen to be a veggie? :loopy:

I'm not the one who keeps using the excuse that a horse is vegetarian as justification for them crapping in the public highway. Does it matter that the animal is vegetarian?......

Well the horses wouldn't have to be crapping on a public highway if it hadn't been built over the fields that used to be there.

It is not the riders' fault that half the countryside has been built over

Two policewomen on horses have just rode past my house and not a pooper scooper in site....shame on them, although there's no horse poo on the road either as far as I can see.

I'm not the one who keeps using the excuse that a horse is vegetarian as justification for them crapping in the public highway. Does it matter that the animal is vegetarian?......
rudeboy,

I meant that if you cant tell the difference there is no point in having this discussion with you. A comparison between human vegetarians and animal vegetarians proves nothing when talking about the differences between human and horse crap.

rudeboy,

I meant that if you cant tell the difference there is no point in having this discussion with you. A comparison between human vegetarians and animal vegetarians proves nothing when talking about the differences between human and horse crap.

I was purely trying to make the point that, to me, horses being vegetarian is irrelevant. Their faeces in the road still isn't very pleasant.

Well the horses wouldn't have to be crapping on a public highway if it hadn't been built over the fields that used to be there.

It is not the riders' fault that half the countryside has been built over

Horses and Public roads just do not mix, for safety reasons.
The "riders" put themselves in a very hazardous situation, and other road users too.

You don't "ride" a horse on public roads, you sit on top let it walk, and thus parade yourself.. a bit like young boy-racers screaming down the High Streets in their suped-up Corsas.

The complaint you have regarding building over the countryside is facile.

Why not buy a Horse Box, put the animal in and drive to a "sympathetic" farmer's property?

I suspect there are very few "Sympathetic Farmers" around who would let your horses gallop through their Spring, Summer, Autumn and Winter Crops.

By the way, I am not anti-horse...... I used to own one myself.

I was purely trying to make the point that, to me, horses being vegetarian is irrelevant. Their faeces in the road still isn't very pleasant.

It's totally relevant. Horses are herbivores, they don't carry harmful bacteria in their gut. Humans and other omnivores including dogs, whether few a vegetarian diet or not, still carry these bacteria in their gut and pass them with their faeces. Horse poo might be unpleasant to some but it is not harmful and the practicality and risk involved in running into a road in front of cars to pick it up isn't justified.

Horse poo might be unpleasant to some but it is not harmful
Neither is an awful lot of other biodegradeable 'rubbish' but I wouldn't want that just thrown out of car windows onto the street either.

I still don't really want the underside of my car coated in the stuff though. :rolleyes:


perhaps the horses dont want you driving your car passed them polluting the atmosphere whilst theyr'e out for a little walk.

If I drop an apple core on the floor its classed as litter, may not be harmful to humans but its still wrong.


perhaps that's the point - horse crap isn't illegal or wrong, neither is cow crap,canada goose crap,or deer crap. none of which your likely to see in the inner city but it happens.
a horse is legally a beast of burden/farm animal & not a pet. it therefore falls under the same categorisation as farm animals.

Whilst extremely rare, there have been known incidents of Leptospirosis infection in humans having been transmitted via horse faeces.

I’m sure most horse riders don’t want the inside of their horses lungs or their own coated in your obnoxious and highly toxic fumes being belched from your car either!perhaps the horses dont want you driving your car passed them polluting the atmosphere whilst theyr'e out for a little walk.
Been there. :rolleyes:

Do you own a horse or car or both?

carry it on the horse? :loopy:


What carry a bin liner full of horse sh*t and hold on? :loopy: :loopy:

I'm not the one who keeps using the excuse that a horse is vegetarian as justification for them crapping in the public highway. Does it matter that the animal is vegetarian?......

maybe they should only own a horse if they have the ground to ride them around?

why not just buy a dog like everyone else? :loopy:

perhaps that's the point - horse crap isn't illegal or wrong, neither is cow crap,canada goose crap,or deer crap. none of which your likely to see in the inner city but it happens.
a horse is legally a beast of burden/farm animal & not a pet. it therefore falls under the same categorisation as farm animals.

yeh but people don't rid cows, canada goose or deer around foot paths :loopy:

yeh but people don't rid cows, canada goose or deer around foot paths :loopy:


the riding is irrelevant. the animal can crap where it wants,or didnt i make that clear enough with my description of why they can crap where they want.:loopy:

Whilst extremely rare, there have been known incidents of Leptospirosis infection in humans having been transmitted via horse faeces.


so is the issue non worming of the animal, just like dogs or the cleaning up of excrement. the bacteria is still in the ground even after its been picked up.
unfortunately that argument as with dog excrement can be debated either way.

maybe they should only own a horse if they have the ground to ride them around?

why not just buy a dog like everyone else? :loopy:

I'll whisper this so our Gordon doesn't hear it.Why not have a Road Fund Licence and Fully Comp Insurance to take the horse on the road?

Perhaps the easiest solution for all concerned is for horseowners/riders to pay for livery in organised facilities, where they can walk, trot, canter, gallop to their heart's content.

Been there. :rolleyes:

Do you own a horse or car or both?


both in multiples.

the riding is irrelevant. the animal can crap where it wants,or didnt i make that clear enough with my description of why they can crap where they want.:loopy:

yes but they don't tend to end up on craping where people walk unlike the horse who's rider lets them crap all over the footpath.

Take some responsibility.

Horses and Public roads just do not mix, for safety reasons.
The "riders" put themselves in a very hazardous situation, and other road users too.

You don't "ride" a horse on public roads, you sit on top let it walk, and thus parade yourself.. a bit like young boy-racers screaming down the High Streets in their suped-up Corsas.

The complaint you have regarding building over the countryside is facile.

Why not buy a Horse Box, put the animal in and drive to a "sympathetic" farmer's property?

I suspect there are very few "Sympathetic Farmers" around who would let your horses gallop through their Spring, Summer, Autumn and Winter Crops.

By the way, I am not anti-horse...... I used to own one myself.



That it one of the biggest loads of crap I have ever heard. 'Parade yourself' - what planet are you on? If you think there is any joy in riding a horse down the road you obviously don't know what you are talking about. I ride in the countryside, but it is impossible even when riding in the countryside to avoid riding on roads. I do not want to ride on the roads - it's pretty scary in reality. Even if you drove to a sympathetic farmer's property at some point it will inevitably cross over a road. To get to the moors you have to go up roads, to get to the woods you have to go up roads. How about learning a bit of consideration and accepting we don't all want to drive around in 4x4s polluting the atmosphere.

What carry a bin liner full of horse sh*t and hold on? :loopy: :loopy:

yes surelly you realise horses have been used over many centuries for manual labour, i'm sure it could carry a bag...;)

I'll whisper this so our Gordon doesn't hear it.Why not have a Road Fund Licence and Fully Comp Insurance to take the horse on the road?

Perhaps the easiest solution for all concerned is for horseowners/riders to pay for livery in organised facilities, where they can walk, canter, gallop to their heart's content.


why not have road fund licence & insurance for all car owners first.?
most horse owners have their horses insured , to protect themselves from idiot drivers on the road.
most horse riders would love all those facilities, but whilst ever the council keeps tarmaccing fields over, ot putting in bypasses through grazing land they are forced to use the public road at some point.
all horse riders hate riding on the roads 'cos it knackers the horses legs in over a long period of time.

both in multiples.

And your many cars don't expel exhaust fumes?

yes but they don't tend to end up on craping where people walk unlike the horse who's rider lets them crap all over the footpath.

Take some responsibility.

as i said before you obviously dont live anywhere where the farmers parade their cattle from field to field ,crapping where they want(barlborough).
and in support of your comment, unless the road is dangerous the rider should know better than to be on a pavement,it might get hurt by an abandoned fag end, or coke bottle or hypodermic left by the responsible pedestrians out there.

Whilst extremely rare, there have been known incidents of Leptospirosis infection in humans having been transmitted via horse faeces.

But the leptospirosis bacterium is only excreted in urine not in faeces....

It is very common and carried by most species of animal so horses won't make a great deal of difference. Dogs spread other bacteria and roundworm.

And your many cars don't expel exhaust fumes?


but we were debating your car & the excrement on it. not mine.
you complain about their crap "they" complain about your smell.
similarly horses dont like rock salt put out the roads to help poor drivers who cant drive in anything except dry conditions, which also does more damage to your car than one pile of horse crap would do.

"they" complain about your smell.

And yours. How is mine more harmful than yours?

why not have road fund licence & insurance for all car owners first.?
most horse owners have their horses insured , to protect themselves from idiot drivers on the road.
most horse riders would love all those facilities, but whilst ever the council keeps tarmaccing fields over, ot putting in bypasses through grazing land they are forced to use the public road at some point.
all horse riders hate riding on the roads 'cos it knackers the horses legs in over a long period of time.

All car drivers by law are required to have Insurance and Road Tax.
Most car owners do. Those caught without the same suffer the penalties at law.

Why not have all horse owners compulsorily Insured and taxed if they use Public Highways and Byways?

Idiots infest all sections of Society, and has it's fair proportion of horse riders who fit the same description.

We can't go back to the time when our geography was suitable for horses only....time and life has moved on since then.

The ancient rights granted to horses have been preserved by the Hunting Set, who for centuries have determined the Laws of our Country.

Why not organise the livery facilities and so on, throughout the country?
Set up a Co-op or something, nationwide. It could be a good business opportunity for someone, perhaps :)

We can take it that you or yours own a horse then? :)

Why not organise the livery facilities and so on, throughout the country?
Set up a Co-op or something, nationwide. It could be a good business opportunity for someone, perhaps :)

:)


i assume you dont have a clue then what horse ownership & riding is about ?
every bit of land that is not green belt is making way for houses & roads,every bit of land that is unsuitable for horses etc is not wanted by anyone.

if a livery yard is surrounded by roads, how do the horses get to the fields?
oh sorry they have to use the PUBLIC highway.
the day that cyclists have to pay road tax & insurance i will happily pay a road fund or fee to take our horses out onto the highway.
it costs us £3.50 to take a horse onto countryside land to ride, why?
'cos they council want a country park for the townies to enjoy.they can ride souped up cars creating noise pollution,ride mountain bikes making "new" trails & damaging the countryside free of charge

But the leptospirosis bacterium is only excreted in urine not in faeces....

It is very common and carried by most species of animal so horses won't make a great deal of difference. Dogs spread other bacteria and roundworm.

No. You are mistaken.

You and others claimed that horse faeces are NOT harmful to humans.

That is not entirely true and I pointed out that there is an extremely small risk of infection. Small, but still there.

You now state that leptospirosis is ONLY transmitted in urine and NOT in faeces.
Rat urine may well be the most common form of transmission in this country and thus presenting the major risk, but is can also be transmitted in faeces.

The relative factors are another issue which you may wish to use in your arguments.
I am simply pointing out your factually incorrect statements.

yes but they don't tend to end up on craping where people walk unlike the horse who's rider lets them crap all over the footpath.

Take some responsibility.
I think you are mistaking a Bridleway for a foot path here.

That it one of the biggest loads of crap I have ever heard. 'Parade yourself' - what planet are you on? If you think there is any joy in riding a horse down the road you obviously don't know what you are talking about. I ride in the countryside, but it is impossible even when riding in the countryside to avoid riding on roads. I do not want to ride on the roads - it's pretty scary in reality. Even if you drove to a sympathetic farmer's property at some point it will inevitably cross over a road. To get to the moors you have to go up roads, to get to the woods you have to go up roads. How about learning a bit of consideration and accepting we don't all want to drive around in 4x4s polluting the atmosphere.

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

If you want horse poo cleared so badly, collect it yourself, and then sell it - horse manure is good for the garden!
Maybe a wheelbarrow and shovel would be best, then you can walk all the way along the road scooping the poop!

No. You are mistaken.

You and others claimed that horse faeces are NOT harmful to humans.

That is not entirely true and I pointed out that there is an extremely small risk of infection. Small, but still there.

You now state that leptospirosis is ONLY transmitted in urine and NOT in faeces.
Rat urine may well be the most common form of transmission in this country and thus presenting the major risk, but is can also be transmitted in faeces.

The relative factors are another issue which you may wish to use in your arguments.
I am simply pointing out your factually incorrect statements.

i've found that all the health research does point to it only being transmitted through urine, it was something i wasn't aware of so i checked it on google.

I’m sad to say, all I'm seeing here is a bunch of townie moaners who want a sanitised version of the countryside typified in Beatrix Potter books where you can visit on a weekend and feel good about yourself for "getting back to nature" to the detriment of the people actually live and work there.

Cant you get a life and go back to talking about your gas guzzling, atmosphere destroying 4x4’s please!

cgksheff ,

Please read below!

Occurrence
Leptospirosis is primarily a disease of tropical and subtropical regions; it is uncommon in temperate climates. Leptospires are naturally aquatic organisms and are found in fresh water, damp soil, vegetation, and mud. Flooding after heavy rainfall may spread the organism because, as water saturates the soil, leptospires pass directly into surface waters.

How do animals carry leptospirosis?
Infected animals carry the bacteria in their kidneys. They can excrete leptospires in their urine for some time, and spread infection to other animals or humans coming into direct or indirect contact with the urine. Often the infected animal does not become ill. For example neither rats, which carry the type known as Leptospira icterohaemorrhagiae, and cattle, which carry another strain (L. hardjo), appear ill. In general, herbivorous animals seem more likely to become, and remain, infected. Cattle urine is neutral or slightly alkaline (high pH), whereas the urine of carnivores tends to be acidic (low pH) – this acidity may damage the leptospires in the kidney, clearing any infection.

How do humans become infected?
Humans are considered to be a dead-end or accidental host of leptospires. Infection may be acquired by direct or indirect contact with infected urine, tissues, or secretions. Leptospires enter the body through cut or damaged skin, but may also pass across damaged or intact mucous membranes, and the eyes. Person to person spread is very rare, if it occurs at all.

http://www.hpa.org.uk/infections/topics_az/zoonoses/leptospirosis/gen_info.htm

How do people get leptospirosis?

Outbreaks of leptospirosis are usually caused by exposure to water contaminated with the urine of infected animals. Many different kinds of animals carry the bacterium; they may become sick but sometimes have no symptoms. Leptospira organisms have been found in cattle, pigs, horses, dogs, rodents, and wild animals. Humans become infected through contact with water, food, or soil containing urine from these infected animals. This may happen by swallowing contaminated food or water or through skin contact, especially with mucosal surfaces, such as the eyes or nose, or with broken skin. The disease is not known to be spread from person to person.

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dbmd/diseaseinfo/leptospirosis_g.htm#How%20do%20people%20get%20lept ospirosis

There is no mention of contracting leptospirosis from faeces and you can catch it from water, soil and your own dog!

I’m sad to say, all I'm seeing here is a bunch of townie moaners who want a sanitised version of the countryside typified in Beatrix Potter books where you can visit on a weekend and feel good about yourself for "getting back to nature" to the detriment of the people actually live and work there.

Cant you get a life and go back to talking about your gas guzzling, atmosphere destroying 4x4’s please!

maybe you shouldn't have a pc or internet if you are so at one with nature! :hihi:

take some responsibility and clean up after your flithy animal!!

:

take some responsibility and clean up after your flithy animal!!

what you mean like your mum does after you.

got the feeling this thread is one big wind up, but just in case it isn't..
how about if you lived a hundred years ago? all the roads in Shef and every city would have been covered in manure 24/7. How often do you honestly see horse manure on the streets when you're driving round, I can't say I've seen any today, or yesterday.. maybe outside bramall lane on a match day?
what a bunch of whingers..

i assume you dont have a clue then what horse ownership & riding is about ?
every bit of land that is not green belt is making way for houses & roads,every bit of land that is unsuitable for horses etc is not wanted by anyone.

if a livery yard is surrounded by roads, how do the horses get to the fields?
oh sorry they have to use the PUBLIC highway.
the day that cyclists have to pay road tax & insurance i will happily pay a road fund or fee to take our horses out onto the highway.
it costs us £3.50 to take a horse onto countryside land to ride, why?
'cos they council want a country park for the townies to enjoy.they can ride souped up cars creating noise pollution,ride mountain bikes making "new" trails & damaging the countryside free of charge

Of course I am aware of what horse ownership and riding is about....I stated earlier that I have owned a horse.

And of course you have to walk the horse across public roads to get to the other side into the country, unless you live on the Great Plains. You are just being silly...and don't patronise me.

Horse ownership never has been a cheap hobby. If it is too expensive to ride real ones, sell them off and buy several Rocking Horses

Your other arguments towards the end of your post quoted above are not worth the effort of my typing a reply.

Of course I am aware of what horse ownership and riding is about....I stated earlier that I have owned a horse.

And of course you have to walk the horse across public roads to get to the other side into the country, unless you live on the Great Plains. You are just being silly...and don't patronise me..


I think you deserve to be patronised when you make stupid comments like these.

got the feeling this thread is one big wind up
You'll need to ask scribe about that.

how about if you lived a hundred years ago?
If we'd lived 300 years ago we'd be throwing our 'waste' out the upstairs window.......but we don't.

You'll need to ask scribe about that.
If we'd lived 300 years ago we'd be throwing our 'waste' out the upstairs window.......but we don't.

hear hear
:thumbsup:

Of course I am aware of what horse ownership and riding is about....I stated earlier that I have owned a horse.

And of course you have to walk the horse across public roads to get to the other side into the country, unless you live on the Great Plains. You are just being silly...and don't patronise me.

Horse ownership never has been a cheap hobby. If it is too expensive to ride real ones, sell them off and buy several Rocking Horses

Your other arguments towards the end of your post quoted above are not worth the effort of my typing a reply.
Shoshine,

Willmans comments are totally legitimate. The erosion of our countryside by mountain bikes etc is a real problem is some areas and your disregard for the comments just goes to show how very little you really know about countryside.

And of course you have to walk the horse across public roads to get to the other side into the country, unless you live on the Great Plains.
Horse ownership never has been a cheap hobby. If it is too expensive to ride real ones, sell them off and buy several Rocking Horses

Your other arguments towards the end of your post quoted above are not worth the effort of my typing a reply.


but comments were made about keeping them off the roads & footpaths, may not have been by you , but it is still a valid point.therefore if it walks on the road there is always a likelihood it will crap, just like little johnny having a pee in the park 'cos he's got caught short.

by the way i didn't say i couldn't afford horses?


when people state they cant be bothered to reply it's 'cos they don't have an answer thats intelligent or relevant.
i made a statement of fact that uninsured cyslicts can do what they want in a country park but i have to pay to ride my horse.half the people using the parks don't even contribute council tax to the area for the upkeep.that is pertinent to me as a horse owner when everyone gets on and rants about insurance & road tax.
enforce car tax & insurance, then cyclists ,then perhaps the horsey brigade may with their small number of patrons may contribute.

if you dont want horse crap on the pavement , move somewhere else where they're aren't any horses.

You'll need to ask scribe about that.
If we'd lived 300 years ago we'd be throwing our 'waste' out the upstairs window.......but we don't.


if we'd lived 20 years ago we'd have been able to have a fag in a pub. but we can't now.
totally irrelevant.

So to conclude the real and only reason people have a problem with this is it’s an eyesore and they don’t like it.

Well there are plenty of eyesores around, graffiti and rubbish to give two examples and for the record the latter encourages rats which is a much, much bigger health threat than horse poo will ever be!

That it one of the biggest loads of crap I have ever heard. 'Parade yourself' - what planet are you on? If you think there is any joy in riding a horse down the road you obviously don't know what you are talking about. I ride in the countryside, but it is impossible even when riding in the countryside to avoid riding on roads. I do not want to ride on the roads - it's pretty scary in reality. Even if you drove to a sympathetic farmer's property at some point it will inevitably cross over a road. To get to the moors you have to go up roads, to get to the woods you have to go up roads. How about learning a bit of consideration and accepting we don't all want to drive around in 4x4s polluting the atmosphere.

There is nothing wrong with owning a 4x4, ( I don't have one, by the way) used for its designed purpose.
I wouldn't argue against you owning one under the circumstance you describe.

I gave you options to avoid riding on public roads, or should I say "walking the horse" on public roads.

Join a Hunt Club somewhere, and go "Drag" Hunting, or team up with Willman and other aficionados and rent somewhere out in the countryside. The trouble is that public common land is in short supply in order for you to follow your interest...because the vast majority of private land is controlled by other horseowners/landowners who wish to covet it unto themselves.

If I owned a Veteran/Vintage Steam Roller, I wouldn't conceive of driving it every week unless I could do so in a way that did not conflict with normal Traffic.

You describe my post as "crap".........yours is horsec**p.

I'd say it's going to be another half an hour or so before this thread turns into a "don't talk to me about horse poo and dog poo. What about those bloody cats that poo all over my lawn?" rant... :hihi:

There is nothing wrong with owning a 4x4, ( I don't have one, by the way) used for its designed purpose.
I wouldn't argue against you owning one under the circumstance you describe.

I gave you options to avoid riding on public roads, or should I say "walking the horse" on public roads.


You describe my post as "crap".........yours is horsec**p.


Thankyou kindly for offering me these alternatives. Unfortunately I have no desire to pelt around drag hunting, I want to pootle around on the moors or in the woods away from the idiots in their cars. I seriously don't think it would be safer to walk my horse to these places, I have more control sat on it then squeezing my self between its body and the traffic.

and well done - good pun - it was funny and topical - hats off

There is nothing wrong with owning a 4x4, ( I don't have one, by the way) used for its designed purpose.
I wouldn't argue against you owning one under the circumstance you describe.

I gave you options to avoid riding on public roads, or should I say "walking the horse" on public roads.

Join a Hunt Club somewhere, and go "Drag" Hunting, or team up with Willman and other aficionados and rent somewhere out in the countryside. The trouble is that public common land is in short supply in order for you to follow your interest...because the vast majority of private land is controlled by other horseowners/landowners who wish to covet it unto themselves.

If I owned a Veteran/Vintage Steam Roller, I wouldn't conceive of driving it every week unless I could do so in a way that did not conflict with normal Traffic.

You describe my post as "crap".........yours is horsec**p.


why should i have to join a drag hunt, my horses aren't for hunting they are for hacking & as such have to be kept in good physical condition otherwise all the other do gooders phone the RSPCA, so they have to be walked wherever it is safe. night time riding across the fields is not really safe.
you may well not drive a steam roller but how many other people buy their offspring the stupid little bikes with no where to ride them.
lets start a thread about something that's actually against the law.
oh we can't do that 'cos its not inflammatory enough.

The top and bottom (scuse the pun) is why should dog owners have to pick up dog poo but horse owners can leave it lying around?

It's a simple question that's got so way out of hand.

And it is because it is not safe and not practical and the poo itself is not as harmful

The top and bottom (scuse the pun) is why should dog owners have to pick up dog poo but horse owners can leave it lying around?

It's a simple question that's got so way out of hand.
You've obviously not read the thread have you?

Your question has been aswered again and again.

<-- goes to look for "banging head on brick wall" emote!

...You now state that leptospirosis is ONLY transmitted in urine and NOT in faeces.
Rat urine may well be the most common form of transmission in this country and thus presenting the major risk, but is can also be transmitted in faeces....
I've not come across any evidence for horse poo being a source of leptospirosis bacteria. You're more likely (but not very) to come into contact with the bugs by splashing through a contaminated puddle in the town centre.

Horse poo can be a source of clostridium spores (tetanus). However, you're just as likely to find these in your garden soil. Additionally, as infection is usually via a break in the skin, you're unlikely to get infected unless you go wading through the stuff in bare feet.

The top and bottom (scuse the pun) is why should dog owners have to pick up dog poo but horse owners can leave it lying around?

It's a simple question that's got so way out of hand.


its also because as i stated earlier horse are classified as farm animals and as such do not fall under the category of pet.
u only have to pick dog poo up because it is your pet & it belongs to you.
a horse can be owned but is not a pet.

At least horse crap is 90% straw, and it doesnt smell as awful as dog crap!

Get it round yer rhubarb!

Joel
Yeah but it still sticks like **** to you car tyres

Yeah but it still sticks like **** to you car tyres


but as it tends to be slightly larger in size than dog poo. one would think it would be easier not to drive through it in the first place.

Originally Posted by Joelc
At least horse crap is 90% straw, and it doesnt smell as awful as dog crap!

Get it round yer rhubarb!

Joel
You can put manure on your rhubarb, of course, but you'd be well-advised to stack it and let it rot first. Use it straight from the horse's bum and it won't do your plants any good at all.

I just cant believe the passion and # of replys regarding horse poop,you all sound like new moms with their baby poop chats,what boreing lives.O and by the way having sat behind a raceing harness horse my face 24 inch away fm his butt when he decided to let go and cover me fm head to lap,horse crap does not smell ,and at 72 I still have the smooth & clear look of a young girl

You've obviously not read the thread have you?

Your question has been aswered again and again.

<-- goes to look for "banging head on brick wall" emote!

Yes I have thank-you very much but cgk raised a very good point and also pointed out what could be used so yes it is practical and safe for the horse mess to not be left lying around.

This really is a load of cr*p! How often do horses poo on Sheffield's streets? A horse is so rarely seen that if you do see one it catches your attention.

Does anybody here have a garden? I'd love it if horses regularly cr*pped up my street, as my garden would be pretty well manured! I'll bet the neighbours would be fighting over the steaming pile too, as there are a fair few gardeners! Stop moaning about it and get out there with a shovel and stick it on your gardens, it's free organic fertiliser!

It goes on your car? Does anybody really care if someone's car gets dirty? If you're that anal, drive around with the thing wrapped up in plastic sheeting as there's a lot worse than t*rd that can get on it.

but as it tends to be slightly larger in size than dog poo. one would think it would be easier not to drive through it in the first place.

It's sometimes stuck in the middle of the road and can't be avoided.
The two policewomen that rode by earlier were riding side by side so it wouldn't have been right in the kerb if they had done any.

This really is a load of cr*p!
But just like a lot of other people you just couldn't resist the urge to post. :thumbsup:

what a silly suggestion......

horses aren't allowd on the pavements so no poo on there

horses don't eat meat so their poo doesn't stink like dog poo.

dog poo can make you blind, horse poo can't

if you don't want it on your tyre, drive round it....its gonna fall of in a day or two anyway.

and if you're a country boy like me, you might agree it smells quite nice

It's sometimes stuck in the middle of the road and can't be avoided.
The two policewomen that rode by earlier were riding side by side so it wouldn't have been right in the kerb if they had done any.


if it was a two foot orange cone you would find a way to avoid it.

This really is a load of cr*p! How often do horses poo on Sheffield's streets? A horse is so rarely seen that if you do see one it catches your attention.

Does anybody here have a garden? I'd love it if horses regularly cr*pped up my street, as my garden would be pretty well manured! I'll bet the neighbours would be fighting over the steaming pile too, as there are a fair few gardeners! Stop moaning about it and get out there with a shovel and stick it on your gardens, it's free organic fertiliser!

It goes on your car? Does anybody really care if someone's car gets dirty? If you're that anal, drive around with the thing wrapped up in plastic sheeting as there's a lot worse than t*rd that can get on it.


if u want some it can be arranged!!!
in an orderly fashion of course.

Please can everyone stop this .I have never laughed so much and i really have
to get some work done ,so forget the scoopers can the horses use nappies instead.

Please can everyone stop this .I have never laughed so much and i really have
to get some work done ,so forget the scoopers can the horses use nappies instead.


but do they have be real nappies or those throw away ones.we don't want to get into trouble with the council regarding recycling.

Someone said earlier that dog poo was bad because of the dogs diet. Horse poo is not bad because of the horses diet.

How about we kill all the horses and feed them to the dogs. That way the dogs would get the good, wholsesome, meaty nourishment from eating the germ free poo generating horses, and therefore the dog poo would become a pleasant and safe addition to anyones slipper/plimsol.

A shergar burger for my pedigree chum!

You'll need to ask scribe about that.
If we'd lived 300 years ago we'd be throwing our 'waste' out the upstairs window.......but we don't.

now that would be unhygenic :)

Someone said earlier that dog poo was bad because of the dogs diet. Horse poo is not bad because of the horses diet.

How about we kill all the horses and feed them to the dogs. That way the dogs would get the good, wholsesome, meaty nourishment from eating the germ free poo generating horses, and therefore the dog poo would become a pleasant and safe addition to anyones slipper/plimsol.

A shergar burger for my pedigree chum!


thats what is already in some pet foods.

Someone said earlier that dog poo was bad because of the dogs diet. Horse poo is not bad because of the horses diet.

How about we kill all the horses and feed them to the dogs. That way the dogs would get the good, wholsesome, meaty nourishment from eating the germ free poo generating horses, and therefore the dog poo would become a pleasant and safe addition to anyones slipper/plimsol.

A shergar burger for my pedigree chum!

Does that mean that the poo of the French and the Belgians is actually quite pleasant?

...sorry, I don't think I wanted to go there, did I?

How often do you honestly see horse manure on the streets when you're driving round, I can't say I've seen any today, or yesterday.. maybe outside bramall lane on a match day?
what a bunch of whingers..

Most of the manure in that area is ON the pitch at around 3pm every other Saturday.

I just cant believe the passion and # of replys regarding horse poop,you all sound like new moms with their baby poop chats,what boreing lives.O and by the way having sat behind a raceing harness horse my face 24 inch away fm his butt when he decided to let go and cover me fm head to lap,horse crap does not smell ,and at 72 I still have the smooth & clear look of a young girl

Are you suggesting that your amazing complexion is due to having fresh horse manure flung at your face while travelling at high speed?

If this is the case, then Clarins, Clinique etc had better watch out!

I think I shall call my new range of skin care products "Pony".

:hihi: :hihi:

Are you suggesting that your amazing complexion is due to having fresh horse manure flung at your face while travelling at high speed?

If this is the case, then Clarins, Clinique etc had better watch out!

I think I shall call my new range of skin care products "Pony".

:hihi: :hihi:
LOL. For all the good the various skin potions do, you might as well fling horse poo at your face. Cheaper too.

LOL. For all the good the various skin potions do, you might as well fling horse poo at your face. Cheaper too.

I was wondering whether it had to be horse poo......

or would donkey doo-doo do? :?

I was wondering whether it had to be horse poo......

or would donkey doo-doo do? :?
Poo of any description, I reckon. Distill it down, give it a pseudo-scientific name like 'boswellox' (I think someone in a lab coat was having a sly dig when they came up with that name), mix it with some white emollient, and you're laughing. Tenner a tub. More if you can persuade a supermodel to advertise it for you.

Because I don't wish to have horse excrement on my car.....simple.


Well our entire city is covered in car excrement, by comparison it's 'no biggie'.

Well our entire city is covered in car excrement, by comparison it's 'no biggie'.

Depends on the size of the horse........:thumbsup:

Sorry you girls ,but yes it does have to be horse,donkeys and such may eat straw(far to harsh for clear skin), but for quality you need a horse thats been on high, dust free HAY plus a little grain.If you have any problems getting the real good stuff,you pay my fare I would be more than willing to bring a suitcase full over,Hmm not to sure about customs,maybe i'll just put it in jars & label it skin care.

Sorry you girls ,but yes it does have to be horse,donkeys and such may eat straw(far to harsh for clear skin), but for quality you need a horse thats been on high, dust free HAY plus a little grain.If you have any problems getting the real good stuff,you pay my fare I would be more than willing to bring a suitcase full over,Hmm not to sure about customs,maybe i'll just put it in jars & label it skin care.

You will do anything for a free Flight to Blighty flyer. I know you were angling for one on another thread a couple of weeks ago, but this approach takes the biscuit......:thumbsup:

Sorry you girls ,but yes it does have to be horse,donkeys and such may eat straw(far to harsh for clear skin), but for quality you need a horse thats been on high, dust free HAY plus a little grain.If you have any problems getting the real good stuff,you pay my fare I would be more than willing to bring a suitcase full over,Hmm not to sure about customs,maybe i'll just put it in jars & label it skin care.
But all that straw giving the poo a nice rough texture would mean that the result would be an excellent exfolient face scrub. Brilliant for getting rid of all those dead skin cells :).

You're right shoeshine,but thats not going stop me fm trying, one day someone will fall for it,I thought it might be the guy who just got scamed for 3000 on e-bay he seemed to have more money than brain.

O.K P.P.N, what i've noticed is most of these creams do come in two or three base so at least a straw base plus a finishing hay base would do the job .How are your marketing skills

...How are your marketing skills
Terrible :) . But if creams containing something called 'boswellox' can sell, I'm sure they'll be no problem with the horse poo additives. Some people really will buy anything...