Friday night- me and my sister and her b/f and this lad i was with- in- lets just call it ''the bar'' and all of a sudden the lad i was with and his mate started having a ruccus so i split them up and got my lad tpo calm down outside- to which the doormen could see what had happened. So after he had calmed down we try and get back in to get my coat and bag- the sodding bouncers would not let us in and got r8 mardy- so my lad shouted at them a bit- then this huge bouncer just pops him r8 in face and he goes flying- got a r8 fat lip. So i was furious. This bar is well know and is very popular and ive never had trouble with bouncers b4. Had anyone else in this 'empire' had any trouble b4???? what is it with bouncers these days.... if u ask me a lot of them have got a screw loose....

If I was a doorman and saw someone scrapping outside my bar, there's no way in a million years he'd be getting let in.

Theres some nice bouncers and some very horrible bouncers unfortunately..some that think they can hit people for no reason..ive witnessed 3 up to now..but the trouble is the police seem to be always on the bouncers side too,my brother got his jaw broke and had to undergo surgery due to a bouncer hitting the wrong person...:mad: .but on the otherhand i do think bouncers have alot to put up with off the pi**ed up public sometimes,they do have a job to do....and we all make mistakes dont we !!!

I can't imagine many bouncers letting someone in who they've just seen fighting outside - that being there job n all.

Either contact the Police and they can obtain the CCTV footage.

Chances are he popped your mate one out of view of the cam..

I can't imagine many bouncers letting someone in who they've just seen fighting outside - that being there job n all.



TRUE,but does that also mean they can run up and knock you out?

im always out drinkin...im not a bad lad:hihi: ..but can get a lil roudy when ive been drinking..but so can most people...surely bouncers should be learnt to deal with this as im sure they get so many people...especially young lads mouthing of a bit...

even if police are called out to things like an assault or something and find some1 resisting arrest or even attempting to assault them...they still do not throw punches..they detain the person in the best,possible way,they may use force...but i doubt many would throw punches....

surely a bouncer can understand what drunk people act like...im currently waiting to do a 2 day traing course in door security.....and i know from what ive seen that the best way is to ignore rowdy drinkers....not punch them:thumbsup:

surely a bouncer can understand what drunk people act like...im currently waiting to do a 2 day traing course in door security.....and i know from what ive seen that the best way is to ignore rowdy drinkers....not punch them:thumbsup.
what if they try and assault you? you going to ignore that too? i dont think so some how. do you?:huh:

im currently waiting to do a 2 day traing course in door security.....and i know from what ive seen that the best way is to ignore rowdy drinkers....not punch them:thumbsup:

Done that myself, they can tell you what to expect, what they can't tell is how you'll react to such incidents, each doorstaff member handles thing differently and sometimes not always the best way..

Be assertive, not agressive :)

surely a bouncer can understand what drunk people act like...im currently waiting to do a 2 day traing course in door security.....and i know from what ive seen that the best way is to ignore rowdy drinkers....not punch them:
what if they try and assault you? you going to ignore that too? i dont think so some how. do you?::huh:

what if they try and assault you? you going to ignore that too? i dont think so some how. do you?::huh:



why even make that post?because you obviously know i meant ignore the back chat and rowdyness...

and as i stated..if you are assaulted then you handle it in controlled manner..as much as possible...and seeing as most clubs have more than one bouncer it wouldnt be hard would it....the lady who made the thread said nothing about her friend attacking the bouncersshe said the bouncer approached him,and punched him.....so hmmmmmmmm..did u actually read my post properly:huh:

i would have paid him a visit later on with a few friends for an apology of some sort

i would have paid him a visit later on with a few friends for an apology of some sort



ha..can tell u from shiregreen.......i used to live on valentine cresent...whats ur name....might know you

well the bouncer approached my friend first- my pal had had only had a bit of a rant at him for not letting me pick up my bag n coat- what the **** would the bar/ bouncers gain from not letting me in to collect my things?? they r just on a power trip a lot of em. so- my mate lost it a bit- but he didnt get violent and wasnt griefing the bouncers personally or owt....

i would have paid him a visit later on with a few friends for an apology of some sort

i like ur style!! my pal suggested it seen as he is one of the Hillsbro skin'ed crew.... but i persuaded him not to as he would probs get arrested...

well the bouncer approached my friend first- my pal had had only had a bit of a rant at him for not letting me pick up my bag n coat- what the **** would the bar/ bouncers gain from not letting me in to collect my things?? they r just on a power trip a lot of em. so- my mate lost it a bit- but he didnt get violent and wasnt griefing the bouncers personally or owt....

If there's been any sort of aggravation outside of the bar, club, pub wherever you are the door staff will never let you back in. It doesn't matter how much you argue or try to get sympathy off them it won't happen. It doesn't matter if your bag is inside or not, they can be collected another day. The bouncers job is to protected the other customers and the staff who work there, letting somebody in whose just been involved in a brawl isn't doing that job.

There's a great post by a bouncer in another thread about how an incident happens to drunk people on a night, and by morning it's a completely different story. I've had it happen to many doorstaff I've worked with, and very rarely (although occasionally) it is actually the doorstaff's fault.

If you are so concerned that you're in the right, take it to the police and stop posting about it here. If the bouncer did indeed abuse his position then he'll surely do it again, and you need to stop that happening. If you don't think you've got enough evidence, or have a suspicion that your recollections of the night might be somewhat clouded by your alcohol intake, then just forget about it and move on!

of a sudden the lad i was with and his mate started having a ruccus

the sodding bouncers would not let us in

so my lad shouted at them a bit

well the bouncer approached my friend first

my pal had had only had a bit of a rant at him for not letting me pick up my bag n coat

my mate lost it a bit- but he didnt get violent and wasnt griefing the bouncers personally or owt....

my pal suggested it seen as he is one of the Hillsbro skin'ed crew.... but i persuaded him not to as he would probs get arrested

Sounds like a standard Saturday night rant on the doors nothing new, see it often at other bars, either people walking up to the doors arguing or "stepping out side" either way the door should never allow people in/back in. From the quotes you have posted I would say that your friend did get a little shall we say "in the doormen’s faces" an untrained or unprofessional doorman would only know how to answer this in one way (sadly)

I've heard a few people complain about the bouncers at Empire before (I assume thats where we're talking about), but I do sympathise with them as due to the crowd it attracts they must have to be less tolerant and completely no-nonsense. Plus, Diamondrava, you sound like an uneducated fool and it also sounds like your friend deserved that punch in the face. You can tell a lot about someone from certain stupid comments they make ("my friend is part of the skin 'ed Hillsborough crew" :loopy: ), and you have certainly done yourself no favours.

Not really a problem. Go in boozers where there arent bouncers !

Sounds like he deserved it. We only have your side of the story and from what you have said I don't blame them. It sounds like you and your mate are both mouthy idiots who dererve everything you get.
my mate lost it a bit
my pal suggested it seen as he is one of the Hillsbro skin'ed crew

Morons!

i wouldn't have let you back in either. for all he knows you could be going back in to soc the other chap, then the bouncer would look a right idiot in front of his boss, it simply isn't worth it.....i expect he reasoned with you but because you had had alcohol you probably weren't responding to reason......and there's nothing more annoying. I like that he punched the fella (although it is iliegal) some people need a bit of fist to the face.

Simple: don't get involved in bar fights

my pal suggested it seen as he is one of the Hillsbro skin'ed crew

I'd like to see your hair loss gang take on the boucers of sheffield....there's only gonna be one result isn't there

I'd like to see your hair loss gang take on the boucers of sheffield

:hihi: LoL:hihi: Lol:hihi: Lol:hihi:

I have never had any trouble with bouncers and find it reasuring that they are there. It's a bit like the police - if you have done nothing wrong what have you got to fear?

That said, I know there are some bad and unlicenced bouncers around who possibly have criminal records. These type of bouncers are the problem and give them all a bad name.

Right... i'v read alot of the postings about people's exsperiences with good and bad doorman (guess what .. they do exist) and guess what i am a doorman and have been for over 5 years now. i like to think of myself as one of the good guys, i am lisenced, no criminal conviction, never have any trouble with police etc....

but i have had my fair share of bad situations to deal with where ever i have worked, and there are some fundemental facts that have reoccured time and time again where ever in the country i have worked.

- when people are influenced by alcohol and drugs(people do take them and it is near impossble to stop them entering a club due to the fact that only the police can search the entire body) they lose there normal everyday reasoning skills and there normal charateristics. Some People tend to use this as an excuse to act like idoits, savages, bullies, mouthy gits and start throwing the word RESPECT around like it was something that they now about, where as in my exsperience, you've got to earn it not demand it.

- people can be reasonable but if they suddenly feel they are losing face in front of friends aspecially if it is the alpha male/female of the group, they do this thing where they only start shouting abuse when they have friends standing infront of them holding them back prtending they want to fight or start it about 10 feet away so that they are out of arms reach and start running away the second they think that a doorman might actually have had enough of there childish ways

- The secruity industary is a long way from being considered a profession in reality. A Doorman apart from maintaining, health and safety, fire saftey, crowd control, conflict management, crisis management, bodyguarding and first aid also has to adhere to the bar/club manager's rules and procedures and ensuring people feel safe enough to enjoy themselves and make sure all the staff are ok, we also have to look after ourselves and are own door team.

- there is a reputation that has stook with doorman for a long time due to the way the bar and club seem used to be 20 years ago when there where fewer bars and clubs and for every one person your throw out for breaking house rules there where 20 people outside in the queue waiting to be let in so doormen back then where normally bigger and meaner than they are today and had much more rule over the doors that they worked than today. So people should consider themselves lucky as there are more places today to enjoy and doorman in general are of nicer than of yester year.

Basically what im trying to say is that the people aren't perfect but if your on a night out and you want to cause trouble, be invovled in trouble, try and deal with it yourself instead of informing the doorman, use or deal in drugs, act foolish and inconsiderate of others, being rude or cheeky. Generally come into our bars and clubs of which we work unsociable hours to help pay our bills and put food on the table, ensuring that more fortunate people can enjoy there nights outs and decide that you want to cause us trouble and treat use wrongfully when we are only doing our jobs and then want to fight us and im not saying there are not bad doorman out there who just want to fight all the time. what i am saying is being considerate and playing nice is appreciated but if a doorman asks something of you please cooperate with them cause if you dont we must fellow through with our convictions and our duties and that when things go wrong and people get hurt.

worlds not perfect, niether are people just try and be considerate of others

Anyone who goes to Empire gets what they deserve....

thankyou and goodnight

Anyone who goes to Empire gets what they deserve....

thankyou and goodnight

That wasn't funny, didn't make sense or have a point. You (door)knob:loopy: