A relative of mine listed their occupation as publican and address as 45 park hill lane. (1910)

Did they live at the pub they owned ??

Can anyone point me in the direction of a website/records that would help determine if this is the case?

picture sheffield shows two establishments on park hill lane
Park Gardners Club & Haigh Tree Inn.
Would it be either of these ?

Hope you knowledgable forummers can help me.

Loopylou

can anybody help with this ???

address is 45 park hill lane in 1910

I didn't live in the Park but as a kid, I spent quite a bit of time around the Park Hill Lane/Weight Lane area: That would be in the 1940s and early 50s. My parents had friends who live up there.

To answer your question, Park Hill Lane started at the end of Bernard Street, and ran steaply up, crossed over Hampton Street on a masonry bridge and finally end as a dirt track at the Exchange cricket ground and the allotments. I think there were two pubs on Park Hill Lane: The Haigh Tree (just passed the top side of St John's church yard) and one further up called The Target(?). Both were on the left hand side of the lane so would have odd street numbers. At No. 45, the Haigh Tree would be about right: That is, if all your other details check-out.

Park Gardeners Club was just that: a sort of working mens club. Not a Pub. Therefore, I think you can cross it off your list. In any event, it was on the right side of the lane, across from St Johns Church Yard and would have an even street number.

Being on the other side of the Ocean and away from the my old information sources, I can't help you regarding the best places to search for the kind of details you migh find useful.

Regards

I dont think this is of any use, wrong era, never the less have a look.

http://www.sheffieldpubs.fsnet.co.uk/Index.htm

Thank you for your replies. I spent a few hours looking through picture sheffield.co.uk last night to see if I could track anything down.

no such luck yet - But the 'target' pub sounds an interesting link.
The Haigh Tree was not quite the right house number.

Maybe they didn;t live at the pub!!!

Possibly Sportsman Inn

at 45 in 1911 was Arthur Potts

Thanks for the reply retep.

I imagine you in a room somewhere surrounded by mountains of old directories - just waiting for an excuse to rattle through them!!!!

Arthur potts is not my relative so........... the plot thickens.

I'm actually suspended above my computer on a very fine cotton thread.
Most directories are here,
http://www.historicaldirectories.org/

but I do have a few that count.

Joe Sheppard 1901

I lived on st johns road from about 1948 till late 50/s early 60/s and the only pub that
i can imagine you mean is one that we as kids referred to as the hospital
as we were told it had been an hospital during the war not sure which 1/st
or 2/nd, it was an old building built of stone and had a court yard at the front
of the place that we used to call the hospital yard, but this place had
certainly been a pub or an inn at some time with out side urinals,it had the
appearance of a bygone age, and the name of the people that lived in it was
Whitley, they had a daughter called jean who was a friend of mine, there
was an entrance to the place on WEIGH LANE but it was just an iron gate
with steps leading up to the main building. other pubs in the area were the target/sportsman/and park gardeners/w/m/club.hope this may help you,
if you have any more questions about this place please ask.

REGARDS THE DEACON

Deacon the Sportsman Inn would have been at the corner or there abouts of Bigod St this is where i make no.45 to be

I lived on st johns road from about 1948 till late 50/s early 60/s and the only pub that
i can imagine you mean is one that we as kids referred to as the hospital
as we were told it had been an hospital during the war not sure which 1/st
or 2/nd, it was an old building built of stone and had a court yard at the front
of the place that we used to call the hospital yard, but this place had
certainly been a pub or an inn at some time with out side urinals,it had the
appearance of a bygone age,
REGARDS THE DEACON

Hi Deacon,

I think you were right, the pub further up Park Hill Lane was the Sportsman, not the Target. Now I can't remember where The Target was, Unless it was the pub the was where Weigh Lane Came off St John's Road. Didn't it kind of face down St. Johns road.

That would make some sense, for as you probably knew, the factory you would know as Longs - up near the Hyde Park greyhound track - was originally an army base of some kind. Don't know when but in WWI, German PoW's were housed there. My Dad (b1907) grew up on Aston Street and he told me that every day in the later part of the war, they marched the German PoWs from St.Johns Road all the way to Attercliffe Common to build the Metro-Vickers factory. Then they would march back at night.

Re: your comment about a pub being a "Hospital" I now remember people used to give it that name but if it was ever a Hospital, it must have been before even WWI.

Regards

HI FALLS
AS I AM QUITE NEW TO THE COMPUTER WORLD, COULD EITHER YOURSELF
OR RETEP POINT ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ON FINDING OLD MAPS OF THE SAID AREA IE THE PARK DISTRICT. AND IF YOU FALLS HAVE AN E/MAIL ADDRESS IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO TALK ABOUT THEM DAYS WHEN YOU WAS IN THE AREA THAT IS IN DISPUTE. AND YES THE TARGET PUB
DID FACE DOWN ST JOHNS ROAD, IT WAS ABOUT 50YDs FROM OUR FRONT DOOR, I LIVED IN A PREFAB OPPOSITE THE HYDE PARK DOG TRACK.
AND THE SPORTSMAN WAS ON THE TOP ROAD THE NAME OF WHICH I CAN NOT REMEMBER FOR THE LIFE OF ME,IT RAN FROM THE TOP OF ST JOHNS RD
TO THE TOP OF PARK HILL LANE.
REGARDS

You should find a link to a map here,
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~engsheffield/
look in the middle index list 1890's map

chequers no 68 weigh lane opened 1825, hospital tavern,13 parkhill lane opened,1833 sportsman 45 parkhill lane

hi falls have just come across your letter,i've looked in my street directory 1895 about pubs on park hill lane first number 45 john ward beer house. 13 david f wall,vic. 34william furniss beer house. at this time 1895 my wife's great grand father had the black horse on talbot street park which is only half a mile from park hill lane.