??? Mine's Aesop Rock or MF Doom. What about you?

MF Doom is sick, man. I was listening to the Vic Vaughan LP earlier. Something like "put me on because I'm hungry, spit something thick on the mic, kinda like a lungy". Sick. Ghostface is bad, too. Ill Bill / Non Phixion. J-Live, Chester P Hackenbush, Buck 65, Skinnyman, Rodney P! ****, there's too many that's all good, but it just depends what mood yer in. Posdnous is bad, too.

Good thread. What's happening with Hoods Underground anybody?

Gimme Chuck D, Rakim, or Ice T over any modern rappers anyday.

Guru from Gangstarr rules, check out a full clip !!!!!

ice t - the darker stuff the better
rakim
krs1
chuck d


mc pitman ..........*errrrrrm gets coat*

Old skool all the way. Its all about Biggie,

Old skool all the way. Its all about Biggie,

nah

tupac



:)

oh yeah i forgot rahzel in my previous post too

Tupac is alright, but hes made so many tunes, hes bound to havesome decent ones. People forget that hes got a load of crap tunes too.

Krs1, I used to love him back in the day. Especially the classic 'Step into a world'

Ive never liked Ice T, in fact id say I think he is schyte.

john barnes on the liverpool song

T

Ive never liked Ice T, in fact id say I think he is schyte.
try some of his really dark hardcore tracks then, and most tell full stories in a song instead of verse chorus verse
thats also why i like eminem and the streets

For me, KRS-One, Chuck D and Eminem are untouchable for their styles and lyrics.

I never, ever 'got' Biggie. His stuff just sends me to sleep.

Taboo from the black eyed peas rules he's the 1 with the long hair and he's abssolutely gorgeous

Taboo from the black eyed peas rules he's the 1 with the long hair and he's abssolutely gorgeous

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :hihi:


But seriously, who is the best rapper?

DMX is my overall favourite.

Then albums by:

Young Buck
Shyne
50 cent (he might be pretty commercial now, but Get Rich or Die Tryin' is a quality album).
Mobb Deep (older days).
A few others that have slipped my mind.

Are all mint :thumbsup:

I agree with DMX, the man is a legend. woof woof.

50 cent though, Personally I think he is a lowsy rapper, but he has some killer tunes. So I do like his tunes, but not because of his rapping.

Heat, and Ski Mask Way are my favourite tunes by 50 Cent.. Quality.

DMX has put out so much quality material, I can't decide which are my best songs! Probably Slippin'.

Mos Definately Mos Def.

And I love Ice Cube's voice - he just sounds so sulky all the time - I can imagine him as a little kid pouting like Arnold in Different Strokes. Probably not the image he wants to project...

Roots manuva, Braintax, Jhest, dizzie rasclart, carl hindes, skinny man.

but for me, it has to be, the notoriuos big

went to see hoodz underground a couple of years ago at the boardwalk on snigg hill, I don't think they have done owt since their single "hard copy"

[QUOTE=Lucretia_73]Mos Definately Mos Def.
QUOTE]

I was a fan until I bought his new album "the new danger" absolute crap!

I don't really listen to much Hip Hop these days, but in my youth I was really into it.
One or two favourties were;

Mos Def
Chuck D
Gunshot (for kicking off the British Scene, sounded really raw too)
Fu Schinickens (spelling?? - craziest style every)
KRS One
Buckshot Shorty
Beastie Boys
Redman
Roots Manuva - still doing very good stuff

Mos Def's The New Danger has it's moments. There is some overdone stuff on there. I read a review of it before it was released saying he was trying too hard to show how clever and cutting edge he is and had crawled up his own backside. Hardly the first artist to be accused of that though. There are some good tracks on it. Sex Love and Money, Freaky Black Greetings etc. Not as accessible as Black on Both Sides which is a top album, and the jury is still out on his Black Jack Johnson stuff.

Sure Roots Manuva, Ugly Duckling are cool also.

Mos Def's The New Danger has it's moments. There is some overdone stuff on there. I read a review of it before it was released saying he was trying too hard to show how clever and cutting edge he is and had crawled up his own backside. Hardly the first artist to be accused of that though. There are some good tracks on it. Sex Love and Money, Freaky Black Greetings etc. Not as accessible as Black on Both Sides which is a top album, and the jury is still out on his Black Jack Johnson stuff.


I'll give you sex, love and money (not litterally) but it was ok... and I totally agree with the bit about him crawling up his own arse!! true! but for me he was tryin to be too new with that album when he should of kept what he had from the lyricist lounge days when him and faroe monche were tearing it up.. all the heavy guitar riffs and all that!! I ended up throwing that cd out of my window on the motorway after being so appauled with it.. he should have kept it real!

My favourite 'rapper' is Chali 2Na from Jurrasic 5 and Ozomatli fame, he has a lovely deep voice that makes me all goose bumply.

I know they are not lyrically up to the standards of Biggie, Pac, Eminem et al, but I have really liked people like Missy Elliott and Busta Rhymes, also I am really into Ludacris, the man has got some killer tracks.

I'll give you sex, love and money (not litterally) but it was ok... and I totally agree with the bit about him crawling up his own arse!! true! but for me he was tryin to be too new with that album when he should of kept what he had from the lyricist lounge days when him and faroe monche were tearing it up.. all the heavy guitar riffs and all that!! I ended up throwing that cd out of my window on the motorway after being so appauled with it.. he should have kept it real!

Just the money is fine by me :)
Yeah he started singing...I hate it when rappers try to sing. It's not right! I like the stuff he did in Blackstar w/ Talib Kweli. Wish there was more of it.

Just been flipping thru the tracks at lunchtime and I meant Champion Requiem instead of Freaky Black Greetings. That's kind of the problem with that album - daft titles and the tracks often become much of a one-ness.

I know they are not lyrically up to the standards of Biggie, Pac, Eminem et al, but I have really liked people like Missy Elliott and Busta Rhymes, also I am really into Ludacris, the man has got some killer tracks.

Gotta love Ludacris's single mindedness...

Move bitch get out the way....I got ho's in different area codes, I wanna lick lick lick lick you from your head to your toes etc...:D Southern Pervyness yay!:clap:

Talib Kwali!!! how did I miss that legend out!!!

just realised I also missed out Jurrasic 5, Redman, Method man, DRE!! (2001) DMX, KRS1 the list goes on..........

so come on then peeps we all have our favourite hip hop guys but whats THE best hip hop album of all time, purely on musical geniusssnessesss!!!

heres my shortlist

1: Biggie: Reday to die
2: Biggie: Born again
3: Outkast: Ateliens (1996) before they turned ****e
4: Dre: 2001
5: Roots Manuva: Run come save me

Subs bench: 2pac: all eyes on me

Back in the day...

Rakim
EPMD
Master Ace
3rd Bass
Chuck D
Ice Cube
De La Soul
Tribe
Kool Moe Dee
KRS 1
Biggie
CL Smooth (Pete Rock)
Redman
Method Man

others escape me at the moment...

Now...

Slum Village
Foreign Exchange
Mos Def (yep - that album was crap apart from Love Sex and Money)
Talib Kweli amongst others...

*Not a fan of British rap.



*ducks down, awaits barrage of disgust*:rolleyes: :)

I can see why you dont like uk rap, most of it is embarrasing beyond belief but give Roots manuva a chance man, I thell thi.....

p.s nice list!

kool keith is class, and mental with it

krs1 and rakim are also legends, along with most of the older mcs already mentioned

never really got into tupac/biggie, eminem is quality about a third of the time, and the bloke before is right about the mighty ice-t

all you have to do is get a copies of 'Power', 'The Iceberg' and of 'O.G'

and 'Rhyme Pays' if you like those big old drum machine beats and bad sound quality!

the geezer has made some right duff-uns, but some classics also;)

did someone mention gunshot? takes me back, razor delivery and raw beats!

and on the british side of things, just got a smart double ep by Verb T and Kashmere, verb's rhyme on 'ravenous' kills it

I can see why you dont like uk rap, most of it is embarrasing beyond belief but give Roots manuva a chance man, I thell thi.....

p.s nice list!

To me, UK Rap doesn't 'flow' like our cousins over the pond!
Admittedly, RM has got the voice, but skills... Hmmm.

Thank you...:) more to be listed, when I get home and start diggin the crates!

:cool:

Gotta say that im also not a fan of UK Rap, apart from some of Dizzee Rascals tracks, but he has a certain unique sound when he is doing rap.

I love Eminem, he is sooo sexy and he writes like a poet :love:

De La Soul's AOI: Mosaic Thump is a brilliant albumn! And I think Held Down off AOI: Bionix is my favourite rap song of all time :)

Old Skool I love Ugly Duckling, A little Samba has me shaking my ass everytime ;) and Snoop's only decent albumn, Doggystyle...

xx

aaaah, now how could I forget Snoop. Another Hip Hop Legend. His style is so laid back and chilled.

aaaah, now how could I forget Snoop. Another Hip Hop Legend.

Doh! Me too.:rolleyes: :) :cool:

Common and Nas for Life affirming rhymes/beats.

He is a good rapper but apart from Doggystyle I prefer him guesting on other peoples tracks. His track with my future hubbie, John Legend, was brilliant!!!

I forgot about Lucy Pearl too. They are brilliant!

and I seen this cute rapper in Sheffield called Sugar or something

xx

I forgot about Lucy Pearl too. They are brilliant!


Not strictly a Rap group, more of a super-collaboration that ended in the usual ego-bashing, arguments and tears.

Raphael Saadiq - from Tone, Toni, Tony = multi talented producer, singer, songwriter.

Ali Shaheed Muhammed - from A Tribe called Quest = again, multi talented.

Dawn Robinson - from En Vogue = powerful singer indeed.

Excellent super-group that had it 'goin on', and should've stayed together.
:(

NAS! they just keep coming, his early stuff was amazing! especially the album: "it was written" ......... byowtiful

Thanks Booch, I knew they were a "super group" but I didnt know the members.

I just remembered there is a rapper in Sheffield calld Precise who is brilliant!

Thanks Booch, I knew they were a "super group" but I didnt know the members.

No probs! :thumbsup:

To me, UK Rap doesn't 'flow' like our cousins over the pond!
Admittedly, RM has got the voice, but skills... Hmmm.



Booooooooooooooooo........:rolleyes:

Glad to see my thread is thriving.

My top 5 rap albumswould probably be;

Funcrusher Plus - Company Flow (no-ones mentioned them yet. Rawkus wouldn't be what it is today if it hadn't been for these chaps)
Float - Aesop Rock
Madvillain - Madvillainy
Gangstarr- Step in the arena
Non prophets - hope.

I can't think of many old ones at the moment but I'm sure I will. I suppose gangstarr and the co flow one are getting on a bit now although it seems like yesterday. My number 6 would probably be illmatic (nas)

I can't think of many old ones at the moment.....
My faves are all old ones:
Public Enemy - Yo! Bum rush the show
Cypress Hill - Black Sunday
Boogie Down Productions - Criminal Minded & By All Means Necessary & Sex and Violence
Ice T - O.G.
The Sindecut - Changing The Scenery (British group, circa 1990 - not strictly speaking Hip Hop I guess)

Few and far between are the hip hop albums I can listen to in their entirety over and over again.

I tend to find an artist produces a couple of killer tracks but the rest of the album is toss.

Of course Ginner. Cypress Hill, Another legend I failed to mention. Black Sunday is a classic album, and there isnt much better out there imo. And B Real has such a unique voice. Absolute quality.

Booooooooooooooooo........:rolleyes:

Oh, boo ya'self!:cool: :rolleyes: :thumbsup:

..........

Where do I start :p

Roots Manuva for definite
MC Pitman
Early Mobb Deep
Paris (sonic jihad the new album is v good)
Taskforce
ScorZayZee from Notts
Phi Life Cypher
Jehst and Braintax
Anything by P.E.
And bizarrely Goldie Lookin Chain

top 5?

makes you think of them you missed!

like jeru - wrath of the math! with premier behind him he couldnt fail; then without...er...

four more -

ice t - O.G
aim - cold water music
P.E - fear of a black planet
kool keith/dan the automator - dr octagon

and british stuff is exactly that, british, and doesnt need to sound 'like' all them lot...some earlier stuff was a bit dodgy but nowadays, all the nottingham lot, the lowlife/braintax crew, and emerging sheffield talents, along with tons of others are coming up with the goods!

each to thier own, but check the british stuff properly before passin comments, you may be suprised;)

and british stuff is exactly that, british, and doesnt need to sound 'like' all them lot...some earlier stuff was a bit dodgy but nowadays, all the nottingham lot, the lowlife/braintax crew, and emerging sheffield talents, along with tons of others are coming up with the goods!

each to thier own, but check the british stuff properly before passin comments, you may be suprised;)

Hey... is the above for my attention?:suspect:

I've been on the 'Rap scene', since it's birth, I remember the London Posse, Derek B, MC Mello, etc. Been to loads of jams over the years in London, Nott'm, Manc, B'ham, etc, and I used to break/pop too.

I know various british rappers - I'm still in touch with the Nott's crew when I lived there (years ago), and I've a coupla of cousins who "doin' their thang", down in London.

I know my *****, I know what I like, it's a personal preference. Some Brit rappers have dope beats, but like I said previously, 'the flow/skills' generally ain't good!

Check 'U' channel on Sky for some comedy moments.

All credit to Brit Hip-hop scene, but thanks I'll fly USA!

Now if we're talking UK Soul....? :)

Oh, boo ya'self!:cool: :rolleyes: :thumbsup:

:hihi: :thumbsup:

Each to their own, innit.

:hihi: :thumbsup:

Each to their own, innit.

Yep.... 'props' to you KathyTB and all Hip Hop lovers!

Don't want to start another Tupac/Biggie thing here...:rolleyes: :thumbsup: :wave:

I always miss stuff when I try to think of favourite top fives and the like but in no particular order...

Jurassic 5 EP - starts off great, tapers off a bit but can't beat Concrete Schoolyard
Snoop - Doggystyle
Cyprus Hill - Black Sunday
Mos Def - Black on Both Sides
Wu Tang - Enter the Wu Tang

and the first album that got me into rap/hip hop - Beastie Boys - Licenced to Ill!


Booch - I know what you mean about Channel U - some of it is dire! South London crews with about 15 members, all of them bad - and that's bad in the traditional meaning of the word! I did like that Lethal Bizzle track though - POW! Good for when you're angry. And Kano is pretty good. You can tell if they're any good - they get promoted from 'U' to the more mainstream MTV channels like Base.

you cannot beat Biggie, Tupac, Snoopdogg, coolio and Dre. they are all amazing. changes by tupac. what a legendary song that is. DMX. he is good too though i will deffinatly agree with that. And i will give credit to eminem cause all his stuff is about subjects close to the heart. jay z is a very good artist. ja rule and fabolus are good listening too. ok. i cant pick a favorite.

1st) The notorious one: 'biggie smalls is the illest'
2nd) Nas: 'the last real n****r alive that official'

3rd) between: Eminem, DMX, ludicris,




There my faves

Its a shame you can't go out anywhere in sheffield to hear them.....:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

.:thumbsup:

"It's unbelieeeeeevable"

Loving biggie too! Ready to die has some of the best examples of pure flow, with tracks like "JUICY" & "UNBELIEVABLE" you can't beat it with a stick

All credit to Brit Hip-hop scene, but thanks I'll fly USA!

fair enuff;)

now where's that dusty copy of Gangsta Chronicle gone...:hihi:

so what would people think of a hiphop night in sheff...no r'n'b ********, just pure hiphop from back in the day thru to today, from all over?

kinda thinkin of doin a little one-off somewhere...

Its a shame you can't go out anywhere in sheffield to hear them.....:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

It's a damned shame! :mad:

Trouble is, they'll always be 'players' within the Hip-Hop Fratenity, I've no problem with them acting like one, but, FFS, leave the attitude at home, infact leave it to the 'artiste'!

I do miss going out to hear the tunes! Back in the day, the Limit (RIP) on a Saturday afternoon was ace. And, before the Criminal Justice act was brought in - clubbing then was so different, more freer.

Sheffield seems to be lacking a decent night to say it's the 4th biggest village, erm sorry, city in England.

Lucretia - Kano's not too bad actually. U channel is funny, although there's some flashes of genius.

How did I forget the Jizza?:loopy:

so what would people think of a hiphop night in sheff...no r'n'b ********, just pure hiphop from back in the day thru to today, from all over?

kinda thinkin of doin a little one-off somewhere...

That would be great but I'd be afraid that the trouble that seems to kick off at RnB nights would also be present at Hip Hop nights - the 'players' that Booch mentioned. It's annoying when you hear stuff about people pulling guns at Hip Hop gigs - idiots...
There wasn't any trouble (at least that I saw) at the Devonshire Festy last summer though - that was really chilled but I guess out in the sun and open air in the daytime is very different to a club atmosphere where no matter what music is playing something always seems to kick off somewhere:mad:

Good idea johnbradley,

Lets get one sorted................

Sheffield deserves this...!!

In no particular order:

from UK -

Kano - brilliant MC - hes comin to Leadmill 08/03 as well - i'll be there
Dizzee - as above - both these artists are better garage mcs than hiphop though really
and how could anyone forget Hoodz Underground? Not a fan of them myself but we should be supporting local talent! Big up Hoodz...

from US:

Nas
Mobb Deep
Busta/Jay Z (non commercial ish if you can really say that)
Wu Tang (old skool)
Juelz Santana
Game...I think I can say this now he has no affiliation with GUnit

My faves gotta be Mobb though. Pity they've signed to G Unit as well.

What about female rappers? Anyone rate them? Not any from UK that are much cop to be honest, but stateside Lil Kim kills it...

What about female rappers? Anyone rate them? Not any from UK that are much cop to be honest, but stateside Lil Kim kills it...

I've always had a soft spot for MC Lyte, she flows naturally.

Wu Tang (old skool)



36 Chambers is all that I took with me from the Wu.

Not a massive Hip Hop fan tho, Snoop rules also, he is Midas :hihi:

My fave female rapper is Missy Elliot by a clear mile. Left Eye from TLC was decent aswell. RIP

....and the first album that got me into rap/hip hop - Beastie Boys - Licenced to Ill!....

Aaargh. Forgot the Beasties. One of the best live Hip Hop acts.

To the 5 Boroughs goes in my top 5 albums.

Of course Ginner. Cypress Hill, Another legend I failed to mention. Black Sunday is a classic album, and there isnt much better out there imo. And B Real has such a unique voice. Absolute quality.
:thumbsup:
One Hip Hop album that I still listen to all the way through.

Saw them at the Octagon in '93. Were good live.

MFdoom, J-dilla (jaydee), Skinnyman

these guys are on form, proper rap artists - unlike that 50 pence bag of crap

My fave female rapper is Missy Elliot by a clear mile. Left Eye from TLC was decent aswell. RIP

"Props!"

:sad: (RIP) Lisa 'Left Eye' Lopez.

I also like "Ladybug Mecca" from the Digable Planets.

I saw Cypress Hill, Funkdoobiest and House of Pain at Nottingham's Rock :suspect: City (many moons ago), and Cypress Hill's, B Real (in particular) was awesome.

Should also mention Little Brother, love them too. 9th Wonder, Phonte and Big Pooh have mad skills.

seems like some of you lot know your hiphop! Forgot to mention RawT.. big up big big Manchester talent..

Not too sure about Skinnyman... sure hes got some lyrics, but I can't escape the fact he looks like a crackhead..very shallow I know!

Erm what about LadySov!! LOL!

Don't really rate Missy..decent videos though...

Ok what about fave hiphop movies? Gotta say Friday/Juice though I don't know if they are really hiphop films, but still...


Get Rich or Die Tryin..?!

CB4!! Love it:D

Not sure how many movies can be referred to as hip hop movies so do we include all the ones that feature rappers? Most of those seem to be about violence in the Hood with a hip hop soundtrack. Speaking of which, Boyz n The Hood is a classic but I dunno whether it could be referred to as a hip hop movie. Same with Menace to Society. Great film.

I saw Get Rich or Die Tryin' last week - it wasn't bad. You can always rely on a rapper to play himself. Think I preferred it to 8 Mile. I'm so bored of Eminem.

MFdoom, J-dilla (jaydee), Skinnyman

these guys are on form, proper rap artists - unlike that 50 pence bag of crap

Lol! Well said!

Skinnyman has an excellent political outlook too, and is always willing to stop and have a chat with fans (met him at gigs in Norwich and Derby)

My recent favourites are:
Danger Doom (formerly MF Doom)
MC Hawking (no, really)
Killa Kella (UK beatbox extraordinaire)

and top 5 old school classics:
The Pharcyde
Cyprus Hill
Gang Starr
Redman
Wu Tang Clan

As for movies... Has anyone ever seen NWH: Fear of the black hat? One of the best films EVER!

What about Big L? I really liked Lifestylez of the Poor and Dangerous. The rest of all the DITC crew as well. That track Dignified Soldiers.

'Put it on' by Big L is one of my favourite Hip Hop tracks.

As for movies... Has anyone ever seen NWH: Fear of the black hat? One of the best films EVER!

That's the one I couldn't remember the title for that I always associate together with CB4. Another comedy movie. Tone Def, Tasty Taste and Ice Cold,lol. I've got CB4 but not been able to find a copy of NWH.

One of those two has a cool track by Fu Schnickens on the soundtrack.

Pointless trivia >> "Big L rest in peace" is the first line one of my favourite Gang Starr records 'Full Clip' (as Venger mentioned earlier)

Lucretia - I have a copy taped from Channel 4 like 10 years ago or something - Awesome film!! Never forget the baby with the pager...

If anyone knows where to find a digital or DVD copy I would be most interested!

The Pharcyde

Dope! - Saw them for free at the Leadmill (many moons ago, again), I was travelling over from Nottingham with a few mates, and was meeting up with my bro and his crew, when we arrived, I was told there had been a small fire (electrical fault:suspect: ) and everyone was outside waiting to go back in. Anyway, the long and short of it was, we got in for free (We didn't have tickets, but hoping to buy on the door!) :hihi:

Fatlip was ace.....

Re Movies:

Do the Right Thing was fav of mine! Friday/Juice/Boyz/Menace are like Lucretia already said.

Saw Belly and a film with DMX in the lead role which the film's name escapes my memory:(

Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde is the ultimate hip hop album for me. Top 3 album of any genre! So many classics on their, with good technical rap skills, very witty lyrics and really soulful sounds. Only Jurassic 5 have come close in their sound, but they've not done an album that compares well as a whole

Lucretia - I have a copy taped from Channel 4 like 10 years ago or something - Awesome film!! Never forget the baby with the pager...

If anyone knows where to find a digital or DVD copy I would be most interested!

An ex-housemate of mine had it on video which was how i first saw it. Looks like Amazon have it on DVD - NTSC version at least so if you have a multi-region player should be ok. Bargain price too - time to fill that basket!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00009MEKQ/qid%3D1139401697/203-1091097-9053504

An ex-housemate of mine had it on video which was how i first saw it. Looks like Amazon have it on DVD - NTSC version at least so if you have a multi-region player should be ok. Bargain price too - time to fill that basket!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00009MEKQ/qid%3D1139401697/203-1091097-9053504

Wow, that was fast! ;) Thanks for the link. Unfortunately I accidently told my DVD drive to be region 2 about 6 months ago, and I don't know how to unlock it again... :(

I'll have to buy that Agent Dan. I'm a big fan of Jurrasic 5. Last year at leeds festival we saw GLC in the morning, Jurrasic 5 and DJ Format in the afternoon, then in the evening we saw DJ Numark, Roots Manuva with Chali 2Na as a guest and then 2 Many Djs all in a row in the dance tent.

I nearly died of happiness. Truly one of the best days of my life.

Saw Belly and a film with DMX in the lead role which the film's name escapes my memory:(

DMX had a role opposite Jet Li in Cradle to the Grave. Is that the one you're thinkin' of?

Wow, that was fast! ;) Thanks for the link. Unfortunately I accidently told my DVD drive to be region 2 about 6 months ago, and I don't know how to unlock it again... :(

I've tried in vain to unlock my actual player but with no joy. Can't find any useful info on the net:( I set the DVD drive on my laptop to Region 1 though so I can watch NTSC on there:) Usually you get about five chances to set the region on computer software I think - why it's not unlimited I don't know!

I've tried in vain to unlock my actual player but with no joy. Can't find any useful info on the net:( I set the DVD drive on my laptop to Region 1 though so I can watch NTSC on there:) Usually you get about five chances to set the region on computer software I think - why it's not unlimited I don't know!

I suppose I could change it once, and then burn a copy to my Hard Drive, and then swap it back?? Definitely worth a look! I let you know when it arrives!!

p.s. the views of Agent Dan are in no way connected to those of the Forum, who wouldn't advocate piracy at all.

DMX had a role opposite Jet Li in Cradle to the Grave. Is that the one you're thinkin' of?

No. Typical story about a young man caught up in the hood, being bad, peer pressure, etc...

Terrell Hicks also stars... Sorry, when I was watching it, I had the flu, so I don't remember much.

I'll ask my sister later, and get the answer.:)

[QUOTE=orenishii] Not too sure about Skinnyman... sure hes got some lyrics, but I can't escape the fact he looks like a crackhead..very shallow I know! QUOTE]

yet i get what your saying with the "crack head" look, but his style is class and he actually raps about situations that are interesting, not just about bitches and guns!

yeah I like the concious stuff sometimes, though jehst/taskforce/skinny i just don't like the sound of their voices.

Forgot to say gangstarr - full clip - everyone should have this
I don't like to put all MCs in the hiphop bracket. For example, I think Bounty Killer is brilliant, a real poet, but he ain't hiphop. Poor people governor! Brraapp!

Anyway LadySov anyone?!

i rate lady sov definately, she has a quality sound to her voice and for a uth she laughing!

Anyway LadySov anyone?!

Pretty good, though more akin to 2 step / garage than hip hop?? She's really fit though

Just been for lunch and got to thinking about old hip hop tracks that stood out for me when I was younger before I ever really noticed music genres or categorised things - individual tracks that I heard and liked years ago. Came up with the following...

Ice T - G.L.G.B.N.A.F
Above The Law - Freedom of Speech
MC Eiht - Straight Up Menace
Doug E Fresh - The Show
Warren G - Regulate
Tone Loc - Funky Cold Medina
DJ Kool - Let Me Clear my Throat
Skeelo - I Wish I was a Little Bit Taller
LL Cool J - I need Love (awwwwww)

There's loads more I'm sure...



I suppose I could change it once, and then burn a copy to my Hard Drive, and then swap it back?? Definitely worth a look! I let you know when it arrives!!

p.s. the views of Agent Dan are in no way connected to those of the Forum, who wouldn't advocate piracy at all.

Good plan. It's not really piracy if you're copying something you bought for your own personal use surely...well, maybe it is but I don't think it's illegal. I'm kind of fuzzy over piracy laws;)

Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde is the ultimate hip hop album for me. Top 3 album of any genre! So many classics on their, with good technical rap skills, very witty lyrics and really soulful sounds. Only Jurassic 5 have come close in their sound, but they've not done an album that compares well as a whole

Agreed with you on the Pharcyde tip, not on Jurassic 5 tho.....

Swings and roundabouts eh:rolleyes: :)

Some of you might baulk at Busta Rhymes for the countless times he's guest-appeared with the 'pop' element (Janet Jackson, PussyCat Dudes, etc), but from his 'Leader of the New School' days to present, he's up there for me.

Busta is technically very skilled - I think the world's fastest rapper? But I agree his work is usually too commercial (for my taste). Break your neck was quite good, and I remember owning 'woo-hah I got ya all in check' on single at some point...

Busta is technically very skilled - I think the world's fastest rapper? But I agree his work is usually too commercial (for my taste). Break your neck was quite good, and I remember owning 'woo-hah I got ya all in check' on single at some point...

They are both quality tracks :)

How many times can you fit the n word into one song?

Lady Sovereign is pretty good for a chav, but Id say she is an MC not a rapper.

As for CB4, this is a clasic film with a killer soundtrack. Sweat from my balls :clap:

I forgot about the Pharycyde, and Bizarre Ride II has got to go down in history as one of the best ablums of all time. yo momma is so fat, how fat is she :D

Lady Sovereign is pretty good for a chav, but Id say she is an MC not a rapper.

As for CB4, this is a clasic film with a killer soundtrack. Sweat from my balls :clap:

I forgot about the Pharycyde, and Bizarre Ride II has got to go down in history as one of the best ablums of all time. yo momma is so fat, how fat is she :D

"...we got some burgers from wendy's / and her skates went flat / I got stuck in her b**t crack / i though I was lost / but I was caught on her G-strap"

ABSOLUTE. GENIUS.

'Lady Sovereign is pretty good for a chav, but Id say she is an MC not a rapper'

yeah I were just taking the p... As I think she is. What is the difference between an MC and rapper? An MC raps, chats, spits, and so does a rapper..? Originally MCs hyped up the dance, and especially in and around the garage scene, thats where things started I think. Since that, people like Kano/Dizzee have made a career out of it. Before UKG there was jungle/DnB... they had MCs also...None really made it big I don't think?

I think Twista is supposed to be the worlds fastest rapper...

What about MC Hammer? MC or rapper?

Anyone heard any blackalicious?

Im not sure on a definite answer on what the difference between a rapper and an MC is. I consider myself to be an MC, but I cant rap for schyt. I MC mainly over Drum n Bass and garage, but I fall flat on my arse if I try doing ity over a Rap track.

MC Hammer isnt a rapper or an MC :hihi:

MC Hammer = pillock. Sorry but he didn't stand the test of time for me, except for "U can't touch this" which I have fond childhood memories of.

And I saw blackalicious in Nottingham about 2-3 years ago - they had cut chemist with them and did Alphabet Aeorbics live!! Was awesome, though they needed 2 rappers to keep up the speed!

They are both quality tracks :)

How many times can you fit the n word into one song?

Erm... 42 apparently!! Strangely the same as the Hitchhiker's Guide! I wonder if he realises?

Just been for lunch and got to thinking about old hip hop tracks that stood out for me when I was younger....

JVC Force - Strong Island
Big Daddy Kane - Wrath of Kane
BDP - 9mm Goes Bang
De La Soul - Jenifa Taught Me (12" version)
Ice T - Colors
Cypress Hill - How I Could Kill A Man & Insane In the Brain
PE - You Gonna Get Yours

and on and on....

Now we've herd everyones fave Artists and Films....

what are you fave lyrics from your fave tracks......

Spit away kiddies.......:nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:

Anyone into their UK sh*t needs to check Louis Slipperz £10 Bag mix CD's vol. 1 to 3, Available in HMV last I knew, but if not try Mark at the Store who should be able to order 'em for you. They really are the dog's proverbials!

Anyone into their UK sh*t needs to check Louis Slipperz £10 Bag mix CD's vol. 1 to 3, Available in HMV last I knew, but if not try Mark at the Store who should be able to order 'em for you. They really are the dog's proverbials!

Unfortunately, Mark and Nigel's "Store", has closed:sad: , I think they're in the process of setting up a website though.

another good female rapper: rah digga

fastest rapper: Gift of Gab (blackalicious) is pretty damn fast. Also, has anyone heard any Eyedea? Some of his double time bits are mind boggling.

favourite lyrics: Aesop Rock fits more good lines into one song than most rappers fit into a whole career. There are many examples but one that springs to mind is ' I used to have a rope ladder , but tattered were the rungs, I hung it from the highest willow, trying to hug the sun. The seventh level buckled and I tumbled from the summit. Now I'm back to re-climb, and this time light my cigarette from it'

or

'I've got 20 ways to tell you shut the f**k up, 19 of them are 24 bars long, the other goes shut the f**k up'

Still no-one has mentioned company flow. Am I the only one that thought they were amazing, or have people just not heard them.

Gotta love the Wu Tang's "Da Mystery of Chessboxin" from "36 chambers"... although the whole track is in well up in my top 5, Masta Killa's verse at the end is superb! Really good flow and rhythm to his lyrics, and a verbal complexity that's often missing from modern hip hop! Won't repeat them here cos they're kinda long, but highly recommended to anyone!

jay-z and dmx twister r da best xxxxxx soph

TABOO will.i.am and apl.de.ap they r all from B.E.P

cos-1 and ill by mouth:hihi:

closely follwed by rakim and kool keith

Common Sense is my favourite rapper :)

Note to everyone who said The Pharcyde are good (and anybody whos not heard of them)
They are playing in leeds at the Wardrobe club, this friday (24th), i got my tickets......GO GET YOURS

Rakim for me, especially on 'Follow The Leader'. Awesome confidence and authority.

Immortal Technique is the sh*t godz. check out "dance with the devil" "you never know" and "peruvian cocaine" all available on the wire that is lime. best stuff I've heard on a story telling, deep lyrics tip in a long, lawnge while and I been down since '87 so I should know. 'follow the leader' is the indeed the sh*t too damon. and if only i could afford to see the pharcyde in leeds on friday... saw them at phoenix festival in 96 (original line-up mind) and they're still the best I ever saw. This includes Public Enemy, Kool Keith, Biz Mark, Masta Ace (a close second), Roots, J5, De La, Ice T, Latyrx, Blackalicious, Dilated, Cypress, LOTUG, Blade, Roots Manuva, Rodney P, Klash (bad man him), Brand Nubian, JB's, too many others to mention... everybody bar EPMD, KRS, and Run DMC basically. Pharcyde rule!

And I saw blackalicious in Nottingham about 2-3 years ago - they had cut chemist with them and did Alphabet Aeorbics live!! Was awesome, though they needed 2 rappers to keep up the speed!
Strange.. I clearly remember the gift of gab doing this all on his lonesome at the old Unit some 6 or 7 years ago. I know he's had some health problems recently (diabetes I believe) so maybe that accounts...

Immortal Technique is the sh*t godz. check out "dance with the devil" "you never know" and "peruvian cocaine" all available on the wire that is lime. best stuff I've heard on a story telling, deep lyrics tip in a long, lawnge while and I been down since '87 so I should know. 'follow the leader' is the indeed the sh*t too damon. and if only i could afford to see the pharcyde in leeds on friday... saw them at phoenix festival in 96 (original line-up mind) and they're still the best I ever saw. This includes Public Enemy, Kool Keith, Biz Mark, Masta Ace (a close second), Roots, J5, De La, Ice T, Latyrx, Blackalicious, Dilated, Cypress, LOTUG, Blade, Roots Manuva, Rodney P, Klash (bad man him), Brand Nubian, JB's, too many others to mention... everybody bar EPMD, KRS, and Run DMC basically. Pharcyde rule!

Aww pooh. Guess who forgot the man like Coolio... being busted off stage by De La at Finsbury Park! Bo Bo Bo! Task Force deserve an honourable mention too as does Jehst and Tony Rotton... Ah the memories. Seems my jam attending days are over just recently. Cash Money at the Tuesday Club was the last one (Nov '05?). Note to self "GET OUT MORE".

i heard a hip hoptrack on a mix CD which i have no idea who its by, its goes on about "snakecharmer" but i cant find anything with that title, has any1 ever heard a track with the words "snakecharmer" and something about being wrapped around my finger? i need this track!!!!! Sounds a bit obscure like Quasimoto of J-dilla but im sure its none of these.

none for me i have gone off rap in the past couple of months much more in to tanz metall

I like most of the Wu Tang stuff, Pharaoe Monch and Canibus. Old Busta Rhymes like Level Extinction etc. I like Jay-Z though. Some of his stuff is intelligent. Hard to say who the best is for me though.

i heard a hip hoptrack on a mix CD which i have no idea who its by, its goes on about "snakecharmer" but i cant find anything with that title, has any1 ever heard a track with the words "snakecharmer" and something about being wrapped around my finger? i need this track!!!!! Sounds a bit obscure like Quasimoto of J-dilla but im sure its none of these.

Sounds like "Bellydancer" by Toronto emcee Kardinall Offishall.

For me, it's gotta be, in no particular order....

Lyrics Born and Lateef from Latyrx
Beasties Boys
Roots Manuva
The Gift of the Gab from Blackalicious
ODB from Wu Tang
Chali 2na
The Pharcyde
Guru
Eric B
Mos Def

The list goes on.............but it certainly doesn't include Black Eyed Peas!!

awww maaaaan its got ta be mr manuva, juice aleem/new flesh are manic

Rakim for me, especially on 'Follow The Leader'. Awesome confidence and authority.

one of the all time best hiphop tunes...definate.

anyone for 'lyrics of fury'?

One of my fav tunes back in the day was Ghetto Jam by Domino. It was an early 90's tune. I was a teenager back then, so I can just about remember it. Anybody else remember it? I think he was a west coast rapper.

Nowadays, I'm still listening to Jigga. His stuff never seems to age to me. Some 50 Cent, but he's an average rapper at his best IMO. Listen to a bit of Cam'Ron also. He's one of the worst rappers I've ever heard, but the beats he uses are brilliant.

no mentions of Q-tip or Jeru the Damaja yet, both highly underrated

[QUOTE=littleboo]no mentions of Q-tip or Jeru the Damaja /QUOTE]

This thread is abour rappers thats why :hihi:

Q Tip is alright I suppose, although he does always seem to sound the same on every single track. Hes more of a 'featuring' person, ie he sounds good when he features on someone else track, but not his own.

[QUOTE=littleboo]no mentions of Q-tip or Jeru the Damaja /QUOTE]

This thread is abour rappers thats why :hihi:

Q Tip is alright I suppose, although he does always seem to sound the same on every single track. Hes more of a 'featuring' person, ie he sounds good when he features on someone else track, but not his own.

boolacks! 'low end theory' is a crackin album, q-tip does the business on that...also, jeru gets it bang on with 'wrath of the math', tho premo's production helps him out a lot...

but if your going to talk about all-time, then not many can touch rakim...for being responsible for ushering in the 'new school', for dedication to writing complexity, for the voice, and also for having bangers in the 80s and 90s

the only rapper close is guru, but again, premier adds a ton of weight behind ol' baldhead:)

I would just like to point out that the views posted on this thread are that of my husbands!!!

I hate rap music !!

I would just like to point out that the views posted on this thread are that of my husbands!!!

I hate rap music !!

No worries, I always disregard your view anyway :hihi: :rolleyes:

No worries, I always disregard your view anyway :hihi: :rolleyes:

who are you, are you new:hihi:

nah he's just a bumming sex god:)

IMO Best rappers and Groups (in no order)
Dmx- Realness and Anger through Words
Tupac - Really Anti Govornment
MURS - Backed by 9th Wonder as a producer is..... Heaven!
G unit - i suppose its some of their beats that do it...
Dead Prez - Anti Govornment, has alot of Realness
Gangstarr - any track Produced by Dj premier...!!
Noxcuse - slate me if you want, all the noxcuse boys have their own flow and own Realness in words, if you listened to some of the tracks on their mixtapes.... undakuva is uk's Dead Prez!!

Klashnekoff - Bland Hiphop Beats and Lyrics, hackneys finest?
Jehst - Probably one of uk's Realist White Hiphop artists?

skinnyman - Another Realist in his words,
Sway - another uk rapper Fully focussed on positivness and City life? been doing it for years but his latest tracks shows how good he is!!


....obviosly there are so many more but these are the people i am currrently listening to this week.
Highly Reccomend Murs and 9th wonder for raw hiphop.

Back in the days...in no particualr order...
3rd BAss
BDP
Public Enemy
Tribe Called Quest
Gunshot
Hijack
Ice T
Disposable Heroes
The Goats
Cypress Hill
KMD
and many many more!!

These days
Mr Lif
MF Doom
Roots Manuva
PUTS
edited to add EDAN - beauty and the beat is a masterpeice of an album,pesychadeliiiiiaaaaa

anything thats aint thugged out gangsta macho posturing wackness really!!

Varies from day to day.

MOS DEF
Redman
Methodman
Q tip
Plan B

To name but a few

i cant remember if ive posted in this thread already tbh

ive always been into hip hop, im more old skool tho

some ive loved more than others

ice t
nwa
krs1
rakim
beastie boys
sugerhill gang stuff
mc pitman :P
all the new uk stuff ....kano, kalashnikov, blak twang, mark b and blade and loads more.

i have quite a bit now ive found in charity shops, including some streetsounds electro albums and grandmaster flash singles