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Rusted Root 03-02-2006, 21:55 Well? Do ya?
I've got two little buggers. Noodle, my 5 month old striped phase Cornsnake and Fluffy the not so fluffy False Coral Snake.
Also does anyone know where I could get some of the more unusual species? The local stores don't stock much.
cgksheff 03-02-2006, 21:59 Also does anyone know where
Australia!!!!
What makes you think that your glass tank can offer a sustainable existence to one or more of these creatures?
theres only that place on attercliffe road that i know of.
zoboz111 03-02-2006, 22:05 i have a bearded dragon, he's from attercliffe, Theres a shop on there called sheffield exotics its great.
i have a bearded dragon, he's from attercliffe, Theres a shop on there called sheffield exotics its great.
a dragon with a beard? sounds rather amusing.
kneetrembler 03-02-2006, 22:08 i have 2 Queensland pythons ............. both around 9foot
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2 jungle carpet pythons around 6foot
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2 common boas around 7foot
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and a pastel boa around 4foot
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i would love more but just dont have the room
i have 2 Queensland pythons ............. both around 9foot
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2 jungle carpet pythons around 6foot
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d174/kneetrembler67/carpet3.jpg
2 common boas around 7foot
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and a pastel boa around 4foot
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i would love more but just dont have the room
arghhhhhhhhhhh!
remind me to stay clear of your place! :hihi:
jeez...id never sleep for fear of waking up partialy digested
kneetrembler 03-02-2006, 22:11 arghhhhhhhhhhh!
remind me to stay clear of your place! :hihi:
jeez...id never sleep for fear of waking up partialy digested
well your welcome to bring your pets with you hahahahahah
cats yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmy:thumbsup:
Well? Do ya?
I've got two little buggers. Noodle, my 5 month old striped phase Cornsnake and Fluffy the not so fluffy False Coral Snake.
Also does anyone know where I could get some of the more unusual species? The local stores don't stock much.
:shocked:
Aren't Coral Snakes erm.. Poisonous?!
Rusted Root 03-02-2006, 22:28 Australia!!!!
What makes you think that your glass tank can offer a sustainable existence to one or more of these creatures?
Geez buddy I asked if you have a snake not if you agree on wether or not they should be kept in captivity. Not everything is designed to be a heavy debate y'know. ;)
Anyhow either way these creatures are going to be kept in captivity wether it be by me or by someone else because the specimens like what I buy have been bred for that purpose. And to be quite honest I'd rather it be me looking after my snakes as I have a fair amount of knowlege on the subject than a kid whos had one bought for it as a birthday present.
And also, if my False Coral, a sub tropical species, was released into this climate then she would surely die. Noodle might live a little longer but either way they're screwed.
My terrariums are also suitable dimensions for each of them and I don't keep them together to avoid injury and cannabalism. I'm not saying that its a perfect situation here but they don't seem to be showing any signs of stress, they aren't excessivly handled and they aren't overfed.
And before anyone says, I don't agree with raping the environment of animals just so I can have my lil herptiles okay?
There. Rant Over and no offence as you and anyone else as they are entitled to their opinions. :D
Anyway, I've been to both stores down at 'Cliffe and I've heard bad things about Sheffield Exotics. My tutor bought I couple of Rosy Boas from there about six weeks back and so far they haven't shed right, fed and are covered with parasites. I dunno if its just a one off though.
Rusted Root 03-02-2006, 22:30 :shocked:
Aren't Coral Snakes erm.. Poisonous?!
Yeah but shes False. Shes only a mimic. Believe me that isn't how I want to die so I'll steer clear of the venomous snakes. :D
kneetrembler 03-02-2006, 22:52 Australia!!!!
What makes you think that your glass tank can offer a sustainable existence to one or more of these creatures?
do you understand snakes and how they live ???
captive breeding of snakes is all that is keeping a lot of breeds alive ........and keeping them in tanks as you put is a great way of keeping them as they feel safe and r away from danger......... and providing they r well looked after they don't suffer from parasites and predators .............hence they live a lot longer in captivity than they ever would in the wild.
O and by the way none of my snakes have been taken from the wild ..... they r all captive bred
I used to keep corn snakes and a python.... they showed no love or emotion toward me.... but I did to them.... they were dead cute. :D :D :D
kneetrembler 03-02-2006, 23:55 I used to keep corn snakes and a python.... they showed no love or emotion toward me.... but I did to them.... they were dead cute. :D :D :D
snakes r like most animals ............. some love company others hate it.
my 7foot boa will follow me till he can get on my shoulders and chill out there all day..................sadly hes getting too big for that now.......... but i still try to spend loads of time with him.
here he is
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snakes r like most animals ............. some love company others hate it.
my 7foot boa will follow me till he can get on my shoulders and chill out there all day..................sadly hes getting too big for that now.......... but i still try to spend loads of time with him.
here he is
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He is one very nice looking snake.... you obviously take great care of Him.... as for hanging out around your neck.... don't be fooled.... He just wants to steal your warmth. :thumbsup:
I bet you get a lot of love and affection off a reptile, just imagine it slithering to the door with your slippers in its mouth, laying on your bed while you fall asleep, etc
I bet you get a lot of love and affection off a reptile, just imagine it slithering to the door with your slippers in its mouth, laying on your bed while you fall asleep, etc
Sometimes it's just nice to give affection.... reptiles don't show emotion but the knowing they trust you is often affection or reward in itself.... and if I could find a snake that would bring me my slippers.... I would be well chuffed.... I don't have any. :D
There is someone on this site who advertises an online exotic pets store based in Chesterfield.
They sell wild caught reptiles/amphibians/inverts which I strongly disagree with. They also send invertebrates through the post.
EDIT: Took out the link because it certainly isn't my intention to advertise them!
There is someone on this site who advertises this online store: LINK REMOVED based in Chesterfield.
They sell wild caught reptiles/amphibians/inverts which I strongly disagree with. They also send invertebrates through the post.
That's dreadful! I thought sending living creatures bigger than a ladybird was illegal, or at the very least against Royal Mail regulations.
They also send invertebrates through the post.
See the post about George Galloway, The Respect Party will send you send you plenty of info about slimeballs through the post
Anyway, I've been to both stores down at 'Cliffe and I've heard bad things about Sheffield Exotics. My tutor bought I couple of Rosy Boas from there about six weeks back and so far they haven't shed right, fed and are covered with parasites. I dunno if its just a one off though.
And looking at a thread in the 'wanted' section it says they also sell wild caught reptiles (Sheffied Exotics).
Seriously what gives anyone the right to think they can go out and capture wild free roaming animals or rob nests and then flog them to people to keep in little tanks just to look pretty for the rest of their lives? I don't get why anyone would want to keep this type of animal. I have nothing against keeping captive bred reptiles as you rightly said they have been bred for this purpose.
Sorry, I know you said not everything is a heavy debate I just wasn't aware of how many places sold wild caught animals. I'm in the process of buying tropical fish and am also discovering it isn't easy to find them captive bred.
And looking at a thread in the 'wanted' section it says they also sell wild caught reptiles (Sheffied Exotics).
Seriously what gives anyone the right to think they can go out and capture wild free roaming animals or rob nests and then flog them to people to keep in little tanks just to look pretty for the rest of their lives? I don't get why anyone would want to keep this type of animal. I have nothing against keeping captive bred reptiles as you rightly said they have been bred for this purpose.
Sorry, I know you said not everything is a heavy debate I just wasn't aware of how many places sold wild caught animals. I'm in the process of buying tropical fish and am also discovering it isn't easy to find them captive bred.
On one hand you agree to take on a wild animal.... ie a fish.... and you also on the other have a go at people taking on an animal from regular sources.... where are you getting yours from? and are they not selling it to you for money?.... Where are you coming from? confused. :confused:
On one hand you agree to take on a wild animal.... ie a fish.... and you also on the other have a go at people taking on an animal from regular sources.... where are you getting yours from? and are they not selling it to you for money?.... Where are you coming from? confused. :confused:
I said I don't agree with animals being taken out of the wild. People should only keep animals which are bred in captivity specifically to be kept as pets.
What I meant was I DON'T have any fish yet because I cannot find anywhere local that sells captive bred tropicals and I refuse to buy those which have been taken from the wild - make sense?
kneetrembler 04-02-2006, 17:13 He is one very nice looking snake.... you obviously take great care of Him.... as for hanging out around your neck.... don't be fooled.... He just wants to steal your warmth. :thumbsup:
thanks he is a great looking snake ............................ yes most snakes will wrap themselves around you to keep warm ...buy he is the only snake that will go looking for me and don't bother with no one else. he will let them stroke him but wont go to them . he spends most of his time wrapped around the computer chair chilling out.
is it just uncommon snakes you are looking for i have a scheltopusik for sale just over 3 foot long but it isnt a snake its a legless lizard
identical to this one http://www.herpetofauna.at/gallery/korfu/pages/ophisaurus_apodus.htm
I said I don't agree with animals being taken out of the wild. People should only keep animals which are bred in captivity specifically to be kept as pets.
What I meant was I DON'T have any fish yet because I cannot find anywhere local that sells captive bred tropicals and I refuse to buy those which have been taken from the wild - make sense?
No.... you are still keeping an animal in captivity.... does it matter where they come from?.... that was my point.... so No! your comment makes no sense to me.
thanks he is a great looking snake ............................ yes most snakes will wrap themselves around you to keep warm ...buy he is the only snake that will go looking for me and don't bother with no one else. he will let them stroke him but wont go to them . he spends most of his time wrapped around the computer chair chilling out.
That's so cute.... Can I have a stroke? :D of your snake of course :D .... they are wonderful reptiles and He must trust you very much cos as you know He smells you out from others.... well done and keep on keeping snakes.
No.... you are still keeping an animal in captivity.... does it matter where they come from?.... that was my point.... so No! your comment makes no sense to me...
Taking fish, or any other animal from the wild, leads to the depletion of their numbers in the wild, and contributes - in extreme cases - to the liklihood of their extinction.
Taking fish, or any other animal from the wild, leads to the depletion of their numbers in the wild, and contributes - in extreme cases - to the liklihood of their extinction.
0r livelihood....depends on how you see it.... some people treat animals with grace and others abuse them. Why do you want to capture an animal in the first place then?
0r livelihood....depends on how you see it.... some people treat animals with grace and others abuse them. Why do you want to capture an animal in the first place then?
I don't actually see what you're getting at, you approve of people keeping snakes but not of me keeping fish :suspect:
My point is that some animals are bred to live in captivity, i.e. as pets. They are used to living in those conditions and if were released into the wild would probably die, and I have no problem with people keeping these and do so myself, so long as they are looked after properly.
What I do have a problem with is people taking free roaming animals which are used to living out in the wild, cooping them up, feeding them with food they are not used to and artificially shortening their lives. As ppn said it is also depleting their numbers in the wild as these are also often species which aren't abundant.
Yellowrose 04-02-2006, 19:00 Snakes scare me s@@@less. I was daft enough to read some of this and I will have a nightmare tonight. Yeah I know, its my own fault!
What worries me is the likelihood of escape ...
kneetrembler 04-02-2006, 19:11 Snakes scare me s@@@less. I was daft enough to read some of this and I will have a nightmare tonight. Yeah I know, its my own fault!
What worries me is the likelihood of escape ...
don't worry i will send the big fella round to keep you company
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Yellowrose 04-02-2006, 19:22 I cant look!
If anyone is eating their dinner like I was, don't click the link!
mistyraven 04-02-2006, 19:38 I am on about Zoboz again. Her Lizard is really nice. I am sure it smile,s at me when it see,s me. Zoboz is after a really big tank I think the one she has is ok. Zoboz told me they like loads of room I only ever see it in one place stuck there on it,s rock smiling at me. I take Zoboz down to the shop on attercliffe for the cricket,s for this smiling lizard, I keep telling her if by any chance these cricket,s get out of the box into my car I will do murder I never go in the shop I feel so sorry for all those.s smiley lizard,s and they have a big croc in a tank. how do they exercise that then?
dustmonkey 04-02-2006, 19:51 Used to have an Indian Python called Elvira back in the 80's.
Would only eat live food though :o
A few years later when she got to 9 feet she was just too much of an handfull so she went via our local herptile expert at the vets to London zoo, where I'm led to believe she still resides (god knows how big she is now)
any one want to buy a 3ft legless lizard
dustmonkey 04-02-2006, 19:56 Been drinking has it?
zoboz111 05-02-2006, 18:24 don't worry i will send the big fella round to keep you company
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d174/kneetrembler67/carpet.jpg
Yuk! ! ! is your snake eating a rat on your kids toy box?
zoboz111 05-02-2006, 18:30 I am on about Zoboz again. Her Lizard is really nice. I am sure it smile,s at me when it see,s me. Zoboz is after a really big tank I think the one she has is ok. Zoboz told me they like loads of room I only ever see it in one place stuck there on it,s rock smiling at me. I take Zoboz down to the shop on attercliffe for the cricket,s for this smiling lizard, I keep telling her if by any chance these cricket,s get out of the box into my car I will do murder I never go in the shop I feel so sorry for all those.s smiley lizard,s and they have a big croc in a tank. how do they exercise that then?
Mom your a fibber! My lizard does'nt like you, When my mom come's to mine he sits with his back to her, And he doe's smile at me,lol.
Do your snakes have name's,Thats to everyone? My lizard was called Eddie Izard but he is a she so she's called Edwina Izard Mrs Izard for short.
chaz thommo 05-02-2006, 19:35 hi i am chaz new here. this is my first post i live in sheffield, firth park to be precise. I have kept a lot of snakes, lizards, turtles, tortoises, spiders, scorpions, frogs and toads. Quite helpful really seeing as i run a reptile shop. Regarding the first post we have a lot of the rarer species in stock most of the year through although we are based in leeds. The shop is called snakes'n'adders. www.snakesnadders.co.uk. Check it out may be of interest, plus if any one has any questions about any of the pets mentioned above i will be more than happy to answer them.
cheers chaz
Anywaaaay.....back to the point. There are actually two shops on Attercliffe. Sheffield Exotics and The Snake Shop. I mostly use 'The Snake Shop' as I like it better, and they always seem very knowledgable and happy yo talk things over with you - but a friend uses the other regularly also.
chaz thommo 05-02-2006, 20:57 i know both tony and john the owners of the shops in attercliffe they are both good lads.
sorry if i went off track floyd didnt realise i had. Thought i was relevent.
zoboz111 05-02-2006, 21:25 Anywaaaay.....back to the point. There are actually two shops on Attercliffe. Sheffield Exotics and The Snake Shop. I mostly use 'The Snake Shop' as I like it better, and they always seem very knowledgable and happy yo talk things over with you - but a friend uses the other regularly also.
thought we'd already mensioned the two shops on attercliffe!
I thought we were free to chat about snake's and lizard and all other Reptile's.
Just said to my partner "what are snake's and lizards etc amphibians?"
He said "no they're reptiles!" so i said what are amphibians then, Fish?"
He laughed and said "no, there frogs and newts!"
Sorry i'm tired!
i know both tony and john the owners of the shops in attercliffe they are both good lads.
sorry if i went off track floyd didnt realise i had. Thought i was relevent.
Not you my good man - the 'keeping snakes is cruel' mob. ;)
Zoboz - I thought only one of the shops was mentioned, so mentioned both. Apologies if im wrong.
mistyraven 05-02-2006, 22:47 So can anyone tell me how they let the croc excercise then? I have seen it in the tank looking very sad.
So can anyone tell me how they let the croc excercise then? I have seen it in the tank looking very sad.
How exactly can you tell if a croc is sad:confused:
crocodile tears? :P
So can anyone tell me how they let the croc excercise then? I have seen it in the tank looking very sad.
A crocodile in a tank in a Sheffield reptile shop? How big is it? What species?
not seen it but probally be a speckled caimen ask chaz thomo who has just joined the site he will probaly be able to give you info on it
not seen it but probally be a speckled caimen ask chaz thomo who has just joined the site he will probaly be able to give you info on it
Thank you for the information :) .
mistyraven 06-02-2006, 15:55 It look,s big not sure how long it is. And I think it has got to be sad in that tank if I was that poor crocodile I would be really sad. I don,t like going in the shop now with Zoboz, do they have to excercise it? how do they clean it out? I feel sorry for it. please don,t make fun of me I just feel sorry for it .
It look,s big not sure how long it is. And I think it has got to be sad in that tank if I was that poor crocodile I would be really sad. I don,t like going in the shop now with Zoboz, do they have to excercise it? how do they clean it out? I feel sorry for it. please don,t make fun of me I just feel sorry for it .
I wouldn't dream of making fun of you. Poor little bugger. Is the crocodile for sale, I wonder, or is it there for the amusement value? Would a private owner have the facilities to keep a croc? What size space would the croc need to be happy in captivity? What size would it be expected to grow to? I know reptile shops sell lizards, snakes, spiders and the like, but I haven't heard about this before.
From what I understand keeping crocs as pets, is Govered by the Dangerous Wild Animals Act (1976). Crocs cannot be kept as pets without a license, and can only be in pet shops that are licensed too. (I'm assuming here, of course, that the pet shop in question has a license). This is not a wind up is it? Who on earth would want to keep a crocodile for a pet?
mistyraven 06-02-2006, 16:13 Not sure what the shop,s name is.
Zoboz will be on here later I am sure she will put what it,s called. I was just shocked to see it there, I did ask if it had enough room but the fella did not answer me, I just felt sorry for the poor thing. how could they sell it? the fella that was working there seem to be very helpful to zoboz. but like I said when I asked over the sad croc he did not answer
mistyraven 06-02-2006, 16:15 Not a wind up from me. I have seen it. like I said I felt sorry for it. and was asking how they cleaned it out etc..misty xx
Not a wind up from me. I have seen it. like I said I felt sorry for it. and was asking how they cleaned it out etc..misty xx
Sorry. I didn't mean to doubt you. It just seems like such a mad idea that a crocodile should be in a pet shop.
mistyraven 06-02-2006, 16:45 It,s ok. I don,t know why they would want one in there, maybe we should start a new thread on this. after all this one is supposed to on snake,s.
you are rite you need a dwa to keep caimen and crocs and the shop mentioned does have one,i know of a few people who keep caimen,the best peron to talk to about the health of these animals is probaly chaz thommo as he has a very good reptile shop,dont think he keeps dwa licensed animals thoe but probally be able to answer your questions
chaz thommo 06-02-2006, 18:34 Right where to start.
Caiman Crocodiles as with all crocodilians are covered by the D.W.A. legislation, although there are proposals from the dwarf caiman to be removed from this listing. I personally feel that this would be most unsatisfactory to think that any tom dick or harry could keep them. The specimen at Sheffield Exotics is a spectacled caiman from South America. This specimen is around 7 years old i beleive. The Caiman had that tank purpose built for it when it was 18 inches long. The current tanks measurements are 2.5m x 1.2m x 0.9m, tony is currently looking at designs to improve the now modest dwellings of the growing crocodile. Current ideas will incorporate a 4m x 1.2m x 1.2m enclosure ensuring ample space from this species. Average adult sizes in captivity are around 6ft althouh in the wild this can exceed 9ft (this was probably from a mature specimen 20-30years +). The crocodile is currently around 4.5ft long.
I hope this helps.
Oh and by the way, shops do not need a d.w.a licence as it is covered within the pet shop licence act. Just need to make sure that the public liability insurance is sufficient and the local fire officers are aware of the animals location in case of fire.
My shop is not large enough for a croc display as well as the other species i keep, you have to know your limits.
Regards chaz
Chaz, thanks for the useful information. I'd never before come across the idea of crocodiles being kept as pets or indeed being sold (or displayed) in pet shops.
I discovered an interesting guide to keeping caiman crocodiles while doing a Google search on the subject. It can be found here (http://www.crocodilian.com/crocfaq/).
My first thought was 'who on earth would want to keep a crocodile for a pet?' I can understand how some might find in interesting to observe these creatures (from a distance!) in a suitable sanctuary, but as a pet?
My next thought was that a tank in a pet shop is hardly an aproximation of the natural habitat of these creatures. Don't crocodiles exist in colonies? Wouldn't this specimin usually be surrounded by others of the same species?
The guide states that at an absolute minimum the enclosure should be 3-4 times the animal's total length. If the croc is currently 4.5 ft (1.4 m), at a minimum the tank should be between 4.2 m and 5.6 m. The current length of 2.5 m is thus woefully inadequate, at just over a metre longer than the current length of the crocodile. Does the crocodile have any additional space to walk, swim and bask?
Given that anyone but the most dedicated and experienced of reptile keepers would or should ever keep a crocodile, I wonder why is such a creature on display in a pet shop?
The guide states that at an absolute minimum the enclosure should be 3-4 times the animal's total length. If the croc is currently 4.5 ft (1.4 m), at a minimum the tank should be between 4.2 m and 5.6 m. The current length of 2.5 m is thus woefully inadequate, at just over a metre longer than the current length of the crocodile. Does the crocodile have any additional space to walk, swim and bask?
Given that anyone but the most dedicated and experienced of reptile keepers would or should ever keep a crocodile, I wonder why is such a creature on display in a pet shop?
So that people go in just to look at the crocodile, get tempted by the other animals after looking at said caiman and spend money in the shop! (I assume). That tank (and even the larger size) sound totally inhumane. Guidelines for keeping any animal (except possibly a snake) would never recommend keeping it in any form of enclosure less that twice it's length. Any caiman I've seen previously in captivity are kept in large open enclosures with a variety of terrain including a pool.
http://photobucket.com/albums/c372/daz1976/?action=view¤t=857e4584.jpg
pics of my boscs the 1 furthest away is the one i got of you chaz when it was 6" now she is nearly 4ft
zoboz111 06-02-2006, 20:15 http://photobucket.com/albums/c372/daz1976/?action=view¤t=857e4584.jpg
pics of my boscs the 1 furthest away is the one i got of you chaz when it was 6" now she is nearly 4ft
wow.. they are great!
has any one on here got a bearded dragon... think mine wants a boyfriend... but need to buy a bigger tank first.
mistyraven 06-02-2006, 20:25 Can anyone help zoboz happy lizard get a bigger tank, and also the croc seem,s to need one in that really small tank of his, That has no chance of having company....
Can anyone help zoboz happy lizard get a bigger tank, and also the croc seem,s to need one in that really small tank of his, That has no chance of having company....
I don't think that croc needs a bigger tank he shouldn't be in a shop full stop! He should be given to a zoo or centre that can provide enough space for it.
So that people go in just to look at the crocodile, get tempted by the other animals after looking at said caiman and spend money in the shop! (I assume). That tank (and even the larger size) sound totally inhumane. Guidelines for keeping any animal (except possibly a snake) would never recommend keeping it in any form of enclosure less that twice it's length. Any caiman I've seen previously in captivity are kept in large open enclosures with a variety of terrain including a pool.
Just to add that the guidelines recommend the sizes I quoted for the crocodile's enclosure. In addition, there should be room for it to swim and roam. This is all common sense though isn't it? Why should we even be discussing tank size? A crocodile of that size, any crocodile in my opinion, if it's in captivity, should be in a suitable habitat provided by a wildlife park or similar.
mistyraven 06-02-2006, 21:21 Twigglet I know what you mean I don,t like going in the shop now with my daughter I sit and wait in my car, I think it,s very sad in that tank. nothing anyone can do is there? When I last saw it I bent down looking to see how far it,s tank went . just to see if it could even turn round. I asked the young fella at the shop but he did not answer me
mistyraven 06-02-2006, 21:23 ppn_2204 I feel sorry for it .
ppn_2204 I feel sorry for it .
Yes, so do I :( . I presume that the tank in which it's kept meets the appropriate regulations for keeping such animals in pet shops, or surely it would have been picked up by the usual inspections. I haven't been in a pet shop since I was about 10, so maybe I'm being niave about assuming that they're inspected annually? I hope the shop has been inspected at some point in the poor creature's lifespan, because it sounds like it's got a pretty miserable existence at the minute.
kneetrembler 06-02-2006, 21:51 Can anyone help zoboz happy lizard get a bigger tank, and also the croc seem,s to need one in that really small tank of his, That has no chance of having company....
i have a 3foot viv going cheap if you need one :thumbsup:
Twigglet I know what you mean I don,t like going in the shop now with my daughter I sit and wait in my car, I think it,s very sad in that tank. nothing anyone can do is there? When I last saw it I bent down looking to see how far it,s tank went . just to see if it could even turn round. I asked the young fella at the shop but he did not answer me
That doesn't surprise me he was probably scared of being sacked.
Pet shop licence conditions (selected relevant bits):
1.1 Animals must at all times be kept in accommodation suitable with respect to construction, size, temperature, lighting, ventilation and cleanliness.
2.0 EXERCISE FACILITIES
2.1 Facilities must be available where appropriate.
13.1 When dangerous animals are kept, the cages must be of a secure construction appropriate to the species. A fine wire mesh, glass or plastic safety barrier must be incorporated into the cage system.
STOCKING DENSITIES - OTHER SPECIES
Accommodation must be provided appropriate to size, age and type of species.
Any councillors on here fancy ordering an inspection?
redrobbo 07-02-2006, 11:27 Any councillors on here fancy ordering an inspection?
I have received several PMs from forummers in respect of concerns raised about the conditions in which this Caiman is being kept. I have today obtained the following information from council officers.....
Sheffield Exotics keeps 1 dwarf Caiman in the shop. The accommodation that this Caiman is kept in is suitable.
The Caiman that is kept in the shop premises, is exempt from the Dangerous Wild Animal Act 1976, as there is a specific exemption in the Pet Animals Act 1951. (This animal is quite elderly and has been with the owner at a previous licensed premise before this one).
The Caiman is kept in secure accommodation which is appropriate for this species.
This type of animal is not known for its activity, preferring to spend long periods of time resting/asleep before feeding, then back to sleep/rest. They are a solitary species and are not known for their need for the attention of others of the same species (in fact the larger ones will quite happily eat the smaller ones if they feel the need). They can at times be quite aggressive towards others of the same gender so are best kept in solitary conditions in captivity.
The last inspection of the premises was around the beginning of December 2005. No issues regarding accommodation were raised.
Red
Edit: Before posting this information, I telephoned the shop keeper and obtained his consent to it being released. I was informed by the shop-keeper that in addition to the regular council inspections at his premises, he also allows unannounced inspections by the RSPCA.
Rusted Root 12-02-2006, 16:38 Hmm I was unaware that the 'cliffe petshops had wild caught stock.I'm strongly against this sort of thing and I'm really suprised to find out that these guys do this. Pretty bad. :(
mistyraven 12-02-2006, 17:30 Yes it,s sad really. but the inspector,s must think it,s ok so there is nothing we can do. from what I can gather it,s old and sleep,s and eat,s so no need to bother... think that say,s it all.
slimsid2000 14-02-2006, 13:59 Yeah but shes False. Shes only a mimic. Believe me that isn't how I want to die so I'll steer clear of the venomous snakes. :D
It's all in the colour patterns:
red and yellow kill a fella,
red and black venem lacked.
lovetorts 16-03-2006, 12:31 Hi
I have a 06 cornsnake for sale ,lots of orange as dad was an amel,£25 if you are interested
Donna@spidernet44.freeserve.co.uk
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