I have sent this on a search, cos I am sure this dish has been mentioned on this forum before but came up with nothing.

We are having a discussion at work about eating raw food (like sushi) and I am sure I have seen a dish that is just raw mince, but it has a posh name - all my work colleagues are looking at me like I am mad. Please someone tell me the name of this dish with a link to a picture if possible.

Many thanks

I think they call it 'steak tartare' but I'm not 100%

I think it is Steak Tartare

sounds like 'steak tartare' which if I'm correct is raw minced steak with a raw egg cracked in the midle of it.

not my cup of tea but warm it up in a pan for a bit and I might have a bash :D

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It's Steak Tartare, and it's suprisingly nice.

There is a restaurant in London that does raw liver too.

I saw on the Lotto show (whatever it's called ~ something to do with a Manor) last weekend the contestants were asked to name the most expensive food out of a choice of three, one of which was a Japanese joint of beef, which I think was practically raw ~ it had just been seered (forgive spelling, but I'm not much of a cook). I can't remember what it was called, but it was the cheapest of the three foods.

Sounds like something that could be called 'Gastroenterologist's Delight'. Dear God, raw mince, raw liver... you might as well just swig back some bacterial broth culture and be done with it...

Thanks everyone - you have put me out of my misery, I have been racking my brain for hours

you might as well just swig back some bacterial broth culture and be done with it...

something like Yakult ?

I was inroduced to "Steak Tatarre" by a Frenchman. The Famous J.P. LeBerre
We were in Oran (Algeria) at the time and he assured me that it had to made from Horsemeat - - apparently contains less harmful germs than beef - when eaten raw.
Chopped onion, raw eggs, and hints of herbs and garlic. Delicious with loads of red wine, and fresh baguettes.

Chopped onion, raw eggs, and hints of herbs and garlic. Delicious with loads of red wine, and fresh baguettes.

I suppose if you drink enough red wine you can eat anything :gag:

Chopped onion, raw eggs, and hints of herbs and garlic. Delicious with loads of red wine, and fresh baguettes.

I think there was tabasco sauce in the one I had, it had a bit of a kick (no horse pun intended)

If it were true that Steak Tartare was practically poisonous , as someone suggests , I'm surprised that millions of French people haven't all keeled over and died by now . As it is they always seem fitter and healthier compared to the millions of ' wobblies ' we now have in the U.K.
I suppose our attitude to food and cooking goes back , in some degree , to Mrs. Beeton , who recommended cooking vegetables like cabbage and sprouts for about 40 minutes !
Here in China , I've eaten some beautiful food -------cooked and raw . It usually all tastes delicious and no bad effects yet . The most horrible attack of food poisoning I ever experienced was , I'm sure , after eating scrambled eggs for breakfast at the Palace Hotel in Buxton , about 1972 . It was a 5 star place then , I think !

I saw on the Lotto show (whatever it's called ~ something to do with a Manor) last weekend the contestants were asked to name the most expensive food out of a choice of three, one of which was a Japanese joint of beef, which I think was practically raw ~ it had just been seered (forgive spelling, but I'm not much of a cook). I can't remember what it was called, but it was the cheapest of the three foods.

That was Kobe beef. The cows are fed special food and beer, and massaged twice a day to make the meat more tender when the cow is slaughtered. Its usually served blue (just colour the outside in a hot pan for about a minute either side). I think it goes for about 500 quid a kilo. Id like to try it, but I cant see Asda getting any in.

something like Yakult ?
LOL. No, I was thinking more of E. coli or Staph aureus, but I had often wondered why those Yakult thingies taste so revolting.

LOL. No, I was thinking more of E. coli or Staph aureus, but I had often wondered why those Yakult thingies taste so revolting.

they are made from goat vomit I think.

If it were true that Steak Tartare was practically poisonous , as someone suggests , I'm surprised that millions of French people haven't all keeled over and died by now . As it is they always seem fitter and healthier compared to the millions of ' wobblies ' we now have in the U.K...
No, my ever so slightly tongue-in-cheek comment was a reference to the fact that many cases of food poisoning are related to the consumption of 'tainted' undercooked meat, or consumption of other food items contaminated with such products.

Many French people are indeed healthier than some British people, but this is likely to be due to their generally healthier eating habits and not to their consumption, or otherwise, of raw or semi-raw meat products.
...I suppose our attitude to food and cooking goes back , in some degree , to Mrs. Beeton , who recommended cooking vegetables like cabbage and sprouts for about 40 minutes !
Here in China , I've eaten some beautiful food -------cooked and raw . It usually all tastes delicious and no bad effects yet . The most horrible attack of food poisoning I ever experienced was , I'm sure , after eating scrambled eggs for breakfast at the Palace Hotel in Buxton , about 1972 . It was a 5 star place then , I think !
I would advocate eating lots of raw veggies, properly washed of course. Food poisoning resulting from eating lightly cooked eggs contaminated with Salmonella, Campylobacter etc is relatively common. [EDIT: Or should I say, a relatively common cause of food poisoning.]

Nothing to do with the thread Nick2, but I love your new avatar!! :thumbsup:

Nothing to do with the thread Nick2, but I love your new avatar!! :thumbsup:
Noooooo! Bring back the panther....

Noooooo! Bring back the panther....

The panther is gone - deal with it.

The panther is gone - deal with it.
No need to be huffy, 'twas only a sly reference to the great panther debate (and poll) of some weeks back. ::shrug:: :| .

No need to be huffy,

Sorry, I wasn't meaning to be.

No, my ever so slightly tongue-in-cheek comment was a reference to the fact that many cases of food poisoning are related to the consumption of 'tainted' undercooked meat, or consumption of other food items contaminated with such products.

Many French people are indeed healthier than some British people, but this is likely to be due to their generally healthier eating habits and not to their consumption, or otherwise, of raw or semi-raw meat products.



I always insist on savouring the local cuisine when abroad. With that in mind, I ordered burger and chips in some posh joint on the Champs Elysée. Within seconds of its arrival, my burger decided to spring a leak and proceeded to bleed all over my French fries. Fortunately, ketchup was at hand and I have to say, it tasted rather good. I did spend a week in bed after that, but I think it was more to do with the shock I received when I was presented with the bill................

they are made from goat vomit I think.

Nooo........ ! >.< ! I'll pretend I didn't read that. =P
I love Yakult. Had it since I was a kid in HK. I think it came from Japan. Fermented drink. It's no different to drinking yoghurts like 'Actimel'.

Steak tartare. Not tried this yet. Though I do think it will taste lovely, just like the red bits of a medium rare steak. Never knew steak can taste so nice when half cooked.

Nooo........ ! >.< ! I'll pretend I didn't read that. =P
I love Yakult. Had it since I was a kid in HK. I think it came from Japan. Fermented drink. It's no different to drinking yoghurts like 'Actimel'.

Actimel is made from sheep vomit. Yakult is the goat vomit. I believe other companies have experimented with the vomit of other animals...

Steak tartare. Not tried this yet. Though I do think it will taste lovely, just like the red bits of a medium rare steak. Never knew steak can taste so nice when half cooked.
That'll be due to the added flavour added by all those partly cooked bacteria ;) .

I was inroduced to "Steak Tatarre" by a Frenchman. The Famous J.P. LeBerre
We were in Oran (Algeria) at the time and he assured me that it had to made from Horsemeat - - apparently contains less harmful germs than beef - when eaten raw.
Chopped onion, raw eggs, and hints of herbs and garlic. Delicious with loads of red wine, and fresh baguettes. I think I'll take your word for it. I would have put it under the grill for 15 mins myself and then stuck it in the baguette:) I wonder what the couple in the Catherine Tate show would make of it all! "The dirty b******s ":D

Actimel is made from sheep vomit. Yakult is the goat vomit. I believe other companies have experimented with the vomit of other animals...

That'll be due to the added flavour added by all those partly cooked bacteria ;) .

That is SO gross. I don't believe you. I thought it's some scientifically fermented crap. I feel a tad nauseous in knowing that... >=(

Just to be evil, well, KFC are made from featherless chickens ! Ha.
They even changed their name, cos it used to be 'Kentucky Fried CHICKENS'...they're not legally able to use that any more either. Irony.

If you do absolutely insist on making this then you must buy your own steak and mince it. Packaged mince = very large surface area which has been in contact with goodness knows what bacteria. This is why burgers are higher risk food than steak and must be cooked all the way through and not eaten 'rare'.

That is SO gross. I don't believe you. I thought it's some scientifically fermented crap. I feel a tad nauseous in knowing that... >=(
Don't worry; it was a joke. Though from the taste I'd probably believe the notion of fermented crap...

Just to be evil, well, KFC are made from featherless chickens ! Ha.
They even changed their name, cos it used to be 'Kentucky Fried CHICKENS'...they're not legally able to use that any more either. Irony.
The KFC name change business is a myth (http://www.snopes.com/horrors/food/kfc.asp)though.

Don't worry; it was a joke. Though from the taste I'd probably believe the notion of fermented crap...

The KFC name change business is a myth (http://www.snopes.com/horrors/food/kfc.asp)though.

:) I was just calling your bluff really. It is interesting to know that it's from animal vomit. Maybe I've been brainwashed from its branding, and that its good for me, but I'd still drink Yakult though.

Going back to steak tartare. I wouldn't mind a piece of kobe beef made into steak tartare ! Apparently, the beef is not imported out of the country. It's like corn-fed chickens. Feed the animal a different foodstuff to modify the texture of their meat.

:) I was just calling your bluff really. It is interesting to know that it's from animal vomit. Maybe I've been brainwashed from its branding, and that its good for me, but I'd still drink Yakult though.

Going back to steak tartare. I wouldn't mind a piece of kobe beef made into steak tartare ! Apparently, the beef is not imported out of the country. It's like corn-fed chickens. Feed the animal a different foodstuff to modify the texture of their meat.

Does anyone have any PROOF that its made from animal puke ?

I always insist on savouring the local cuisine when abroad. With that in mind, I ordered burger and chips in some posh joint on the Champs Elysée. Within seconds of its arrival, my burger decided to spring a leak and proceeded to bleed all over my French fries. Fortunately, ketchup was at hand and I have to say, it tasted rather good. I did spend a week in bed after that, but I think it was more to do with the shock I received when I was presented with the bill................
I'm not surprised you were ill if ate on the Champs Elysee, the prices they charge would see off any Yorkshireman. I had to have a sit down and a tin of larger (from the supermarket) after window shopping in the bars and restaurants on there. £30 for half a beer.....sheesh!!
When I go to Paris I always head for the left bank where you can sample any type of cuisine you like, including French if you look hard enough and the prices wont take your breath away. Unlike most of the rest of Paris where french food has been replaced by international chain restaurants serving upmarket fast food at stupid prices.

:) I was just calling your bluff really....
That's a relief, because you'd have to be really dumb to think that they were actually made from vomit.

All true steak eaters go rare or med-rare with a good cut.Well done is only eaten when the barn burns down.I've been eating rare for 50yrs never a problem.

When I ate (dead) meat I would always have it 'bleu' which is really hard to get in the UK.

You heat the pan, show the pan to the steak and then serve it with a fine quality bearnaise sauce.

My flat mate would always joke that a good vet would have it on it's feet in 5 minutes. :D