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If that was me i would be of ashamed myself to have my picture published in the local rag,she states that she has 3 young children so she cant do the garden herself what rubbish(parden the pun).Why cant she get them to help with the tidying up,then they might have somewhere decent to play out.

It really gets on my nerves when people cannot take responsibility for problems which they themselves create.
And as for The Star why do they use the thrase 'mums fury over garden' when a more appropriate heading would be Neighbours joy over possible court action on Dingle like neighbours,a lot more possitive.

Three kids at 22?

Too busy getting knocked up to tidy the garden, I suspect

Mind you, she's gotten a council house out of it :D

So, can I slap an injunction on the Council to clear up all the unsightly beer cans and litter etc. from the Council land that they are supposed to maintain?

Can I claim back money for my time and expense if I go and do it myself (as I often do!)?

I agree - this person has only herself to blame for her situation - seems like she wants everything handing to her on a plate - surely she could find time to tidy up her garden - and the fact that the rubbish includes beer cans is beyond me - I am not saying she is not entitled to a drink but please dispose of the rubbish correctly - what hope have the three kids got.
People like this get me really mad :rant: it is ALWAYS somebody elses fault:rant:

yep just because she has kids does this mean she has lost use of her arms?get a binbag love and get cleaned up,no excuses;)

She should be in a flat if she can't be bothered with the garden, as such houses are in huge demand. Having little kids is no excuse as she could bung them in a playpen outside while she got on with tidying it up - and that's all they are asking. Litter sometimes blows into my garden too, but I just chuck it out again.

I have to say, that garden sounded no worse than some of the gardens of private and student houses that you see - there's one near me with such overgrown hedges, you have to walk in the road to avoid having your eyes poked out. The front lounge window is totally obscured by weeds. I don't know how people can live like that.

My garden looks shocking :blush: but thats because a dodgy builder erected a crap fence which all blew away in the wind.

So I have no fence and can't afford to replace it. :(

Three kids at 22?

Too busy getting knocked up to tidy the garden, I suspect

Mind you, she's gotten a council house out of it :D

Typical bigotted posting from you Abdul - if she was asian, the council would have done with no questions asked eh? You've only got to look at the housing policy of Firth Park to see it in action.

I agree with Mthom, sod fannying about with injunctions and court costs. Get her a suitcase and a transit van and move her into a flat with no garden then she can chuck the beer cans out of the window and blame someone else.

Mind you, I wouldn't want to be around when she gets rid of the next fridge !!!

She would refuse the flat on the grounds of not having anywhere for the children to play.
there are plenty of young folk would love a garden that size, i'm sure she could get friends and family to help out.

She is just a lazy tramp, that garden would be great for the kids to play in if she could be bothered to get of her lazy DSS funded ass and sort it out. Poor bloody kids, great example she is! She will most likely be up the duff again soon and demanding a bigger bloody house, shoot her, that's what I say!

Three kids at 22?

Too busy getting knocked up to tidy the garden, I suspect

Mind you, she's gotten a council house out of it :D
mmmmmm that's probably why she had children then eh? The undeniable discomfort of pregnancy, the pain of childbirth, a lifetime of responsibility - in return for a council house, please!

Here here neeeeeeeeek:banana:

She is just a lazy tramp, that garden would be great for the kids to play in if she could be bothered to get of her lazy DSS funded ass and sort it out. Poor bloody kids, great example she is! She will most likely be up the duff again soon and demanding a bigger bloody house, shoot her, that's what I say!
Here here neeeeeeeeek:banana:

Seconded :thumbsup:

Typical bigotted posting from you Abdul - if she was asian, the council would have done with no questions asked eh? You've only got to look at the housing policy of Firth Park to see it in action.

Not really, I'm sure if she was Asian the council would've just moved her to a bigger house in a nicer area :thumbsup:

Anyway, last time I checked, white people still lived in Firth Park :o

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If that was me i would be of ashamed myself to have my picture published in the local rag,she states that she has 3 young children so she cant do the garden herself what rubbish(parden the pun).Why cant she get them to help with the tidying up,then they might have somewhere decent to play out.

It really gets on my nerves when people cannot take responsibility for problems which they themselves create.
And as for The Star why do they use the thrase 'mums fury over garden' when a more appropriate heading would be Neighbours joy over possible court action on Dingle like neighbours,a lot more possitive.

Look at the state of her though...!!! Rough as a butchers dog and the three kids are probably all to different dads!

Typical bigotted posting from you Abdul - if she was asian, the council would have done with no questions asked eh? You've only got to look at the housing policy of Firth Park to see it in action.

Not bigotted of you then for singling out Abdul when he only said the same as everyone else?

Crikey you are all very judgemental aren't you. I can't help but wonder whether your opinions might be slightly different if the story was about a young MAN struggling with his responsibilities however........

Not bigotted of you then for singling out Abdul when he only said the same as everyone else?

He responded didn't he in the manner expected - perhaps you should keep your nose out? before it gets chopped off.

Crikey you are all very judgemental aren't you. I can't help but wonder whether your opinions might be slightly different if the story was about a young MAN struggling with his responsibilities however........

Actually, you're probably right there...

Mind you, if that were the case, we'd be singling out the Mother for abandoning her kids!

He responded didn't he in the manner expected - perhaps you should keep your nose out? before it gets chopped off.

Yeah, you tell him Internetowl!

That'll teach people to disagree with you :nono:

:hihi:

be funny if she's a member of this forum!

Ive just been having a chuckle at the picture, Ive noticed she got a remote in her hand! :hihi: Quality

Aren't the council overstepping their bounds here?

I realise the argument can be made that they own the property, so can dictate how the garden should be kept, but I don't think they should be micro-managing the lives of tenants like this. If she is paying her rent and she isn't breaking any laws, what business is it of theirs to demand her garden be kept in a certain condition?

Can you imagine if a private homeowner was ordered to tidy up their garden by the powers that be? Why should it be any different for a council tenant?

be funny if she's a member of this forum!

she's got relatives on here - I've had pm's from them. Abdul ought to go steady a bit with the digs she's connected to all the Firth Park chavs as thats where she's from - off Horninglow.

Abdul might get a visit from her dad and his pals.

At least she is throwing rubbish on her own garden on my estate people tend to through rubbish on anyones garden who isn't a trouble maker i.e mine.

She looks a lot older then 22. I guess thats what having lots of children young does to you!

she's got relatives on here - I've had pm's from them. Abdul ought to go steady a bit with the digs she's connected to all the Firth Park chavs as thats where she's from - off Horninglow.

Hmmm... are they recipients of this 'Firth Park housing policy' you mentioned earlier in this thread?

Abdul might get a visit from her dad and his pals.

You'd think they'd be busying themselves tidying up her garden instead :roll:

i thought the same x_Sunshine_x,

Aren't the council overstepping their bounds here?

I realise the argument can be made that they own the property, so can dictate how the garden should be kept, but I don't think they should be micro-managing the lives of tenants like this. If she is paying her rent and she isn't breaking any laws, what business is it of theirs to demand her garden be kept in a certain condition?

Can you imagine if a private homeowner was ordered to tidy up their garden by the powers that be? Why should it be any different for a council tenant?

surely the analogy would be if a landlord demanded that the tenants keep the garden tidy. Which they do.

The council own the property and if someone else has complained about the state of the garden then they are perfectly within their rights to expect the tenant to do something about it.

She is just a lazy tramp, that garden would be great for the kids to play in if she could be bothered to get of her lazy DSS funded ass and sort it out. Poor bloody kids, great example she is! She will most likely be up the duff again soon and demanding a bigger bloody house, shoot her, that's what I say!
here here!!!

i wish i had the time to look after my garden but unlike that workshy, lazy bimbo i have a fulltime job!! get the kids to help, teach them about WORK and all its rewards, not how to claim benefits and live off the rest of us!!!

mmmmmm that's probably why she had children then eh? The undeniable discomfort of pregnancy, the pain of childbirth, a lifetime of responsibility - in return for a council house, please!get real, its the only way she could have got a house, the waiting list system no longer exists,when it did , at least you knew that you shouldnt have kids until you got a house,which would make you around your twenties,that gave you enough time to work and save for furniture,now with a good social worker you can have your cake and eat it and still end up as a tenant at 18......

:rolleyes:

Oh dear, I can see this thread is going to go off at a tangent.

Irrespective of her working situation (or not) I personally would be ashamed to have a garden looking in that state.

As I said my garden is currently open plan due to high winds and crappy workmanship. I too had a letter from the local authorities regarding fencing being in disrepair. (and looking shoddy)

I got my neighbours to help me dismantle and dispose what was left of it. I cannot afford to replace the fence so the next complaint will probably be the open plan situation :( .

Maybe her partner, she surely has one somewhere (or family members) could help. I would not have made the mistake of telling the star of the actions as it has just highlighted other 'issues' she may have or others may have with her and made her a bigger target.

she's got relatives on here - I've had pm's from them. Abdul ought to go steady a bit with the digs she's connected to all the Firth Park chavs as thats where she's from - off Horninglow.

Abdul might get a visit from her dad and his pals.

What have her relatives said about the situation then? If she were my kid, I'd be round there like a shot and get the tip straightened up before she gets lumbered with a fine or kicked out.

Rather than looking for Abdul so they can kick his teeth in, wouldn't they be better using their energy to fill a few black bags?

she was offered help but declined it.that says enough,its people like her that give estates a bad name,she has to live there,so why live in a sty ? typical answer,is ive got my hands full with the kids,years ago people had large families but they were still house proud,they used to clean the steps every week and keep things tidy, looks loke she has no pride in herself or her estate, give her a caravan if she cant cope with a house

I can't believe how quick you all are to judge this one person, from only reading a few coloumns in the local rag.

thats a more sorry state of affairs than the original story IMO

Looking at the picture in the star it does'nt look that much of a problem to sort out.
A good days graft and a bit of grass seed could make that a decent spot for the kids to play, you'd think that would be a priority anyway with the better weather coming, and why would you be happy looking at a tip every day.

Looking at the picture in the star it does'nt look that much of a problem to sort out.
A good days graft and a bit of grass seed could make that a decent spot for the kids to play, you'd think that would be a priority anyway with the better weather coming, and why would you be happy looking at a tip every day.you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned a bit of graft

its probably beyond comprehension to people like this,the best thing to offer would be a yard of mixed concrete,have some one lay it and all her future garden problems will be sorted

Any excuse to put chav families behind bars is fine by me....:hihi:

It does say near the end of the article (did anyone read thatfar ?) that she has agreed to clean up the garden with the help of her sister.

Storm in a teacup :P

surely the analogy would be if a landlord demanded that the tenants keep the garden tidy. Which they do.

The council own the property and if someone else has complained about the state of the garden then they are perfectly within their rights to expect the tenant to do something about it.

The point I was trying to make was whether the council should be telling her to clean her garden. Obviously they can because it's their property, but that's not the same as whether they should.

A good landlord should be one who lets tenants get on with living there. When I was in a student house our landlord only came round when we asked him about something. He wasn't round all the time checking whether or not our living room was hoovered. I've only ever communicated with my current landlord by email, because he lets us get on with living in the property.

Obviously there has to be some threshold to when action should be taken, but does this really qualify? If I had a neighbour who played loud music late at night, was aggressive, threw wild parties constantly or broke laws such as dealing drugs, that would affect my quality of life and I'd be entitled to complain, but does having a dirty garden really fall into this category? If I lived near someone whose garden was untidy, I wouldn't care. I can't help but suspect that snobbery has come into this action, i.e. people petrified that having an unclean garden in their street would reflect badly on them.

And just because someone has complained doesn't mean that action has to be taken. I could complain to my next door neighbour's landlord that she wears red jumpers, it doesn't mean that the landlord should do anything about it.

:)

I think it's right the council should tell her to clean up her act. It drags down the rest of the street if a peoples' gardens look a mess. It's not snobbery, it's just living in a nice environment which we are entitled to do. I also think it's probably a reflection on the way the people live anyway unless theres a genuine excuse as to why it's in such a mess not just that they are too lazy to bother.

its down to standards,some people will live in a home and keep it and its surroundings clean and tidy as they and their children have to live there, others will yust lay on their backs and dont give a toss

i saw this when i lived on kelvin flats, every morning the council would turn up to pick up dirty nappies that had been toassed out the windows,the rubbish shute was only yards away but people couldnt be bothered bagging up their ****e,they would chuck it out onto the back where the kids playground was
who wants to live next to some one like that ? when kelvin flats came down,a lot of people wanted to stop in the area,oxford streets flats were up then,they were ok and the area had lots of green space,within weeks of people moving the green area was covered in nappies,waste food,bin liners.

there are no slums,only people that create them,my garden has no plants,its not even a lawn,just scrub grass that syha put down when they built them,but its cropped three times a year,i dont know the lass who this thread is about but surely,if you live there you make it the best you can for your kids,any thing else is neglect and the kids suffer by having no where to play

She's pathetic - and hasn't the brains to realise just how the whole thing makes her look. She'll be sat with a beer in one hand, fag in the other, crowing over what she's done now.

She wants to get in the real world - just another example of someone who thinks the world owes her a living.

Best thing she can do is cut the picture out, frame it for her kids and make them look at it every day. That way, there is just a glimmer of a hope they won't turn out like her, and try to better themselves.

Oh, sorry, Im a tax payer with a mortgage, bills, job, and I clearly don't understand her plight.

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If that was me i would be of ashamed myself to have my picture published in the local rag,she states that she has 3 young children so she cant do the garden herself what rubbish(parden the pun).Why cant she get them to help with the tidying up,then they might have somewhere decent to play out.

Well, how many times does that happen? The people who ought to be ashamed of themselves are always the ones featured in The Star telling the world how hard done to they are. She obviously has enough time for some fake tan sessions! Wonder when they took that picture - it's been freezing here for a good few days now and yet she's only wearing that vest. Bet she'd have done it topless given half a chance. No, another lazy slapper, living in her own sh*t and not caring how disgusting it looks. 3 kids at 22? No bloody sense either. And I shouldn't think the kids will be playing outside till they're old enough to steal cars...

She's pathetic - and hasn't the brains to realise just how the whole thing makes her look. She'll be sat with a beer in one hand, fag in the other, crowing over what she's done now.

She wants to get in the real world - just another example of someone who thinks the world owes her a living.

Best thing she can do is cut the picture out, frame it for her kids and make them look at it every day. That way, there is just a glimmer of a hope they won't turn out like her, and try to better themselves.

Oh, sorry, Im a tax payer with a mortgage, bills, job, and I clearly don't understand her plight.

Brilliant! You said it much better than I did. I hope her relatives are reading it.

I totally agree with what most people have said she should be made to smarten it up or if possible the council should be able to kick her out, the trouble is when there are kids involved they would'nt be allowed to do that. But while the council are doing all this checking on tenants with their gardens they should also do the same with parking cars and white vans on the grass verge outside their homes, apparently their is a bylaw to fine people who do this but they say it is too hard to implement (can't see why just knock on the door of the property where the grass verge is ripped up) and hand them a fine.

and if you've lived in a rented house that wasn't let to students then you'd find that you'd be loosing your deposit for not taking care of the house or it's garden.
I've rented once as a non student and it was in the contract that caring for the garden, ie cutting the grass mainly, was not optional.
If she were my tenant, I wouldn't only tell her to get the garden sorted out, i'd tell her to do it before I evicted her and kept her bond.
And yes, a garden that is untended and worse filled with rubbish, certainly does affect the quality of life of everyone who has to see it or live near it.

The point I was trying to make was whether the council should be telling her to clean her garden. Obviously they can because it's their property, but that's not the same as whether they should.

A good landlord should be one who lets tenants get on with living there. When I was in a student house our landlord only came round when we asked him about something. He wasn't round all the time checking whether or not our living room was hoovered. I've only ever communicated with my current landlord by email, because he lets us get on with living in the property.

Obviously there has to be some threshold to when action should be taken, but does this really qualify? If I had a neighbour who played loud music late at night, was aggressive, threw wild parties constantly or broke laws such as dealing drugs, that would affect my quality of life and I'd be entitled to complain, but does having a dirty garden really fall into this category? If I lived near someone whose garden was untidy, I wouldn't care. I can't help but suspect that snobbery has come into this action, i.e. people petrified that having an unclean garden in their street would reflect badly on them.

And just because someone has complained doesn't mean that action has to be taken. I could complain to my next door neighbour's landlord that she wears red jumpers, it doesn't mean that the landlord should do anything about it.

:)

It really isn't a big deal to clear rubbish out of your garden. We're not all going to have beautiful plants and water features, but getting rid of rubbish is just basic stuff.

Does having three kids really make you that incapable? :confused:

CM x

The Star must have a huge database of these non-stories. Every week there's some spoilt brat and grotty parent on the front page under ridiculous headlines "Council tried to kill my child" or "Close killer railway, demands Mum"

followed by some naff story about "Little Kylie" or "Little Jordan" who'd wondered off while their parent / parents were drunk/stoned/robbing cars and who was then found by a road or railway.

"Angry Dad, Shane 19 and unemployed, demanded the council shut all roads and railways. "My Jordan cudd bin killed by won o them train things its a disgrace wot are the council doin' about it wheres me giro."

Mum Sharleene added "Wheres me ****in' fags". A council offcial The Star spoke to said there were no plans to shut any roads"

:hihi: :hihi:

I can think of a few council properties that could do with a bit of a 'spruce up' and plenty of housing associations make it quite clear that they expect a garden to be maintained to a certain standard.It does seem odd though that she has been asked repeatedly as she should be aware that the council are getting more determined to get rid of troublesome tenants

The Star must have a huge database of these non-stories. Every week there's some spoilt brat and grotty parent on the front page under ridiculous headlines "Council tried to kill my child" or "Close killer railway, demands Mum"

followed by some naff story about "Little Kylie" or "Little Jordan" who'd wondered off while their parent / parents were drunk/stoned/robbing cars and who was then found by a road or railway.

"Angry Dad, Shane 19 and unemployed, demanded the council shut all roads and railways. "My Jordan cudd bin killed by won o them train things its a disgrace wot are the council doin' about it wheres me giro."

Mum Sharleene added "Wheres me ****in' fags". A council offcial The Star spoke to said there were no plans to shut any roads"

:hihi: :hihi:


spellings improved there i see taxman :)

Originally Posted by taxman
The Star must have a huge database of these non-stories. Every week there's some spoilt brat and grotty parent on the front page under ridiculous headlines "Council tried to kill my child" or "Close killer railway, demands Mum"

followed by some naff story about "Little Kylie" or "Little Jordan" who'd wondered off while their parent / parents were drunk/stoned/robbing cars and who was then found by a road or railway.

"Angry Dad, Shane 19 and unemployed, demanded the council shut all roads and railways. "My Jordan cudd bin killed by won o them train things its a disgrace wot are the council doin' about it wheres me giro."

Mum Sharleene added "Wheres me ****in' fags". A council official The Star spoke to said there were no plans to shut any roads" LOL!!

There are a certain minority who think they have no personal responsibility for any part of their lives! Council houses are in great demand, and part of having a house is looking after the garden. Councils used to be very strict about this, but haven't been for some time so its good news IMO that they are attempting to enforce tenancy conditions once again. The majority of people take a pride in their homes, and look after their gardens - only for the surroundings to be spoilt by the minority who don't care about anything but themselves.

Funny you should say that, i was talking to someone who moved into our estate when it was first built. She told me some of the rules for qualifying for a house here were:

* You had to be working
* You had to earn a certain level of income
* You were white :o
* You needed references and had to produce wage slips
* Married

Imagine :loopy:

Hardly anyone would qualify these days.

Is that Chatsworth Estate?:hihi:

Is that Chatsworth Estate?:hihi:

But of course and our tarquin is well pleased with the new comp! :hihi:

Typical bigotted posting from you Abdul - if she was asian, the council would have done with no questions asked eh? You've only got to look at the housing policy of Firth Park to see it in action.
Of course, your response wasn't bigoted at all, eh?

The title in the City final edition makes you smile though ...

"Is this mess worth jail?" Then the picture of her! Say no more!

I noticed the remote too ... why? do they fight over it?

Has anyone heard anything about single mums in social housing getting help with gardens? Im sure I have, but I dont know where or where from.

Well heres my honest opinion.I am a full time stay at home mum, I have a partner who works, two school age kids and one pre-school.My garden is in desperate need of my attention, and it's on my mental list of "things to do", but it rarely makes it to top of the list.When you have small kids it is a never ending cycle of meal times preparing/eating/feeding and cleaning up, dirty nappies,wheres my potty?,mountains of laundry, hoovering,mopping playgroup,playing,toy sorting,the list goes on and on and it is hard to fit in all those extra things which you intend to do.I love it when I get chance to do the gardening, but it is really hard to get stuck into it with 3 little ones running around, squabling, wanting you to play, being intrested in all the dangerous things like sacateurs,rakes, spades etc. that you need to have around.You finnaly get every one togged up to be outside , then it rains, or someone needs a wee etc.I'm lucky enough to live in a good area where junkies needles are thankfully not a problem, but if I lived somewhere that this was a problem, I wouldn't dare take my eyes off them.How do we know if the beer cans are hers or public litter?
Yes it would be great if every garden looked beautiful,and in an ideal world they would.I hope this girl sorts out her garden, has the chance to enjoy it, and it doesn't get full of other peoples litter in the future( which often is the case) .
When you walk around, Millhouses,Whirlow Dale and such areas, it is fun to nosey in the gardensand some are beautiful, but how many of these are done by "the gardener"and the cleaner probably does the cleaning, whilst the nanny sorts out the kids.
Give the girl a break, but without a car it's difficult and gardening tools and plants aren't cheap.Yes she should sort it out and she proberbly will now.But does she really deserve the slagging off you lot are giving her? it cant be easy having 3 little ones at 22.

With all due respect Peakma. that is no excuse for beer cans in the garden and disused fridges and microwaves, the council take them away for free.

The garden is scruffy and the woman could tidy up the rubbish even if she didn't make a show garden of it. However, I've seen a lot worse gardens in Sheffield Council estates - but it's easier for the council to pick on a young mum, rather than a house full of drug dealer villains, innit?
Nuf_said.

Funny you should say that, i was talking to someone who moved into our estate when it was first built. She told me some of the rules for qualifying for a house here were:

* You had to be working
* You had to earn a certain level of income
* You were white :o
* You needed references and had to produce wage slips
* Married

Imagine :loopy:

Hardly anyone would qualify these days.

Just as well the rules were changed - anyone who remember's seeing 'Kathy Come Home' in the late 60's/early 70's will understand why 'need' was introduced as a factor for qualifying for social housing.

I'm sure no one expects the garden in question to become a showpiece, but you only have to ring up to get a fridge taken away free. If most people saw broken glass or anything that might be a danger to their children - wouldn't they clear it up? I also thought the reason so many people want council houses instead of flats was to 'have a garden for the children' - where do these children play?

Peakma, lots of couples with kids both work - but manage to at least keep their garden tidy enough for the children to play safely. The neat borders and pretty flowers can come when the kids have grown up!

the funniest thing about it is the house is on the most rundown estate in the city - its that bad even the rats have moved out :)

I am a mum to 2 children and I work part-time, I can understand that its difficult to maintain the garden in this weather. It would proberbally take 5 mins in the garden to pick up the rubbish and beer cans. But in this weather when the ground is hard and its freezing outside two weeks notice is a bit short notice I think to tidy it totally especially if they mean mowing the lawn and cutting the edges. She may not even have that sort of equipment to begin with and it can be expensive to buy. Or am I being niave / making excuses.

Besides I thought it said in the Star that she had found syringes in her garden. In which case I wouldbe concerned a to what to do with my children (who like to come and help even in the cold) whilst I was in the garden.

EJ xx

I am a mum to 2 children and I work part-time, I can understand that its difficult to maintain the garden in this weather. It would proberbally take 5 mins in the garden to pick up the rubbish and beer cans. But in this weather when the ground is hard and its freezing outside two weeks notice is a bit short notice I think to tidy it totally especially if they mean mowing the lawn and cutting the edges. She may not even have that sort of equipment to begin with and it can be expensive to buy. Or am I being niave / making excuses.

Besides I thought it said in the Star that she had found syringes in her garden. In which case I wouldbe concerned a to what to do with my children (who like to come and help even in the cold) whilst I was in the garden.

EJ xx


no disrepesct but how do the rest of us cope in all weathers.
if she hasn't got the tools get a flat without a garden,if she hasn't got the knowledge get a book from the library.
the onlt thing she probaly reads is the claim forma at the dss, & probably sits watching big brother all day>

I am a mum to 2 children and I work part-time, I can understand that its difficult to maintain the garden in this weather. It would proberbally take 5 mins in the garden to pick up the rubbish and beer cans. But in this weather when the ground is hard and its freezing outside two weeks notice is a bit short notice I think to tidy it totally especially if they mean mowing the lawn and cutting the edges. She may not even have that sort of equipment to begin with and it can be expensive to buy. Or am I being niave / making excuses.

Besides I thought it said in the Star that she had found syringes in her garden. In which case I wouldbe concerned a to what to do with my children (who like to come and help even in the cold) whilst I was in the garden.

EJ xx

I can't speak for Wybourn, but I know that the tennants of Shiregreen have access to free gardening tool hire through the tennants association.

Well I couldnt believe she was stood out in the cold with her child who only had a vest and his trousers on! its bloody cold out there!

the funniest thing about it is the house is on the most rundown estate in the city - its that bad even the rats have moved out :)

Maybe, but we used to live about 15 houses down from this house and our garden was always spotless.

I am to a single mum and i can keep my garden free from rubbish. I got a semi and becuase it is a corner house i have a front and large side and even bigger back garden that backs onto a park, so i sometimes get the kids throwing rubbish over too at times. If she thinks her's looks a mess she should looked at mine before i moved in this house. The council did not help me when i moved in as they said they clean it up befor i move in, but lookin at it at the time you wont think so it took 3 skips and endless amount of trips to the tip. I admit i hate to garden but you dont need these nice flowers and borders just to keep up with the jones on the street, just nice kept cut grass that all you need and cut the hedge's. Only one of my headge is higer then the house has the last owner did not look after the garden one bit and i refuses to cut it down and now the council took me to court and i won in the end as i did not let it grow that high and now it has to be taken out because it is now breaking the water pipes.


With sounds of it with most of your replys she makeing all single mothers do is drink smoke and watch tv and do not give a hoot about how our homes looks. Well i know im not one of them and i know plenty of other single parents that are not as well, so i hope most of you know that not all single parents on the dole or mobility ect do not give a hoot as some do, and it also working famliys too with older kids that have garden in lot more worst state then some others i seen and do not do anything. but just becuase she does not work it as to be said and to tar the rest of us with the same brush to make other single parents look the worst,and it is never the working familys with two parents and 2-4 older kids to help out that get reported i see as well it is always the single mum or dad that dont work or work part time.

if any one spots the guy who collects can's let him know,this would solve everybodys problem,she would get the council of her back and he would earn a few quid

the funniest thing about it is the house is on the most rundown estate in the city - its that bad even the rats have moved out :)


even the dogs walk round in pairs!:hihi: :hihi:

What have her relatives said about the situation then? If she were my kid, I'd be round there like a shot and get the tip straightened up before she gets lumbered with a fine or kicked out.

Rather than looking for Abdul so they can kick his teeth in, wouldn't they be better using their energy to fill a few black bags?


I do beleive internetowl was having us on about that.;)

With sounds of it with most of your replys she makeing all single mothers do is drink smoke and watch tv and do not give a hoot about how our homes looks. Well i know im not one of them and i know plenty of other single parents that are not as well, so i hope most of you know that not all single parents on the dole or mobility ect do not give a hoot as some do, and it also working famliys too with older kids that have garden in lot more worst state then some others i seen and do not do anything. but just becuase she does not work it as to be said and to tar the rest of us with the same brush to make other single parents look the worst,and it is never the working familys with two parents and 2-4 older kids to help out that get reported i see as well it is always the single mum or dad that dont work or work part time.

It is a shame that those single parents who work hard and don't expect everything given to them on a plate are overshadowed by those who do. It's not fair, I admit. The problem is of course is that it's the mouthy, pushy ones who ring the paper (because this story has obviously come from her - probably in the hope of getting her picture in there and embarassing the council into doing something when she's the one who should be embarassed. But she probably doesn't know the meaning of the word). It's that sort of person that we get to see and read about - folks quietly doing their best for themselves and their family don't make the news!

Oh no, this woman shares my surname :( Fortunately, as far as I know, she's not related to me :)

No it's Humphries not Dastardly

Besides I thought it said in the Star that she had found syringes in her garden. In which case I wouldbe concerned a to what to do with my children (who like to come and help even in the cold) whilst I was in the garden.

EJ xx

She did and was advised by the enviromental services people not to go in the garden till they've made it safe - she's looking forward to the court case where the ES people are going to speak in her defence - should be interesting when it comes to court. :loopy:

Oh no, this woman shares my surname :( Fortunately, as far as I know, she's not related to me :)

they're a big family - most of them are Johnsons however...

It isn't a joke living near someone who lets their garden turn into a tip. I have one near me (thankfully not next door) and since it's been allowed to get like that there have been rats and I'm constantly having to pull up weeds as they seed into my garden. You have to walk in the road as you go around the corner past their property because their hedges are so overgrown - and this is a privately owned property where a family with a very nice car reside. It's not a matter of whether someone's on the dole or not, a garden that's left to turn into a dump affects the neighbours. It drags the area down.

The council aren't saying she has to plant flowers, just get rid of the cr*p - did the fridge and microwave just walk there? If only half the rubbish isn't hers then the other half must be hers, and it takes no effort to put the ruddy remote control down and go and pick up your discarded beer cans once in a while. By the sounds of it she's had a summer barbecue there and never cleaned up since.

When we lived in parson cross we lived next door to a house with a garden that was worse than the one featured in the star. Even though someone lived their they really didn't care and it was used as a dumoing ground for the local chav's. Needless to say we had problems with rats and mice and when we contacted the council they said they would contact the tenant. In the 2 years we were there nothing was done and walking past the other day there is now a settee in the front garden.
Isn't it in your tenancy agreement that you keep your garden including hedges tidy? if not it should be. It's a pity these days people like her don't take pride in where they live, mind you if it was handed to you on a plate and you didn't have to do a hard days graft!

the council supplies everyone with a free wheelie bin, thats all she needs

The solution for her kind: Take away their kids and give them to decent childless couples who can bring them up properly. Take away their council houses and put them into residential centres with pre-fabs made of steel and surrounded by electrified fences. And make them work for a living in government run factories. Sterilisation also comes to mind, but I'm against extreme solutions!

its the wrong time of the year to cut the hedge anyway - it will kill it off.

The solution for her kind: Take away their kids and give them to decent childless couples who can bring them up properly. Take away their council houses and put them into residential centres with pre-fabs made of steel and surrounded by electrified fences. And make them work for a living in government run factories. Sterilisation also comes to mind, but I'm against extreme solutions!

Kent must be nearer to Germany than it looks on the map

The solution for her kind: Take away their kids and give them to decent childless couples who can bring them up properly. Take away their council houses and put them into residential centres with pre-fabs made of steel and surrounded by electrified fences. And make them work for a living in government run factories. Sterilisation also comes to mind, but I'm against extreme solutions!


Are you serious ?

Are you serious ?


It would give us a chance to get in with the strimmers!!:hihi:

Just being sar-caustic!

The Star must have a huge database of these non-stories. Every week there's some spoilt brat and grotty parent on the front page under ridiculous headlines "Council tried to kill my child" or "Close killer railway, demands Mum"

followed by some naff story about "Little Kylie" or "Little Jordan" who'd wondered off while their parent / parents were drunk/stoned/robbing cars and who was then found by a road or railway.

"Angry Dad, Shane 19 and unemployed, demanded the council shut all roads and railways. "My Jordan cudd bin killed by won o them train things its a disgrace wot are the council doin' about it wheres me giro."

Mum Sharleene added "Wheres me ****in' fags". A council offcial The Star spoke to said there were no plans to shut any roads"

:hihi: :hihi:

Pure hilarity - on the odd occasions that I read Sheffield.Net, those style storeies seem to be making the front page.

:P

Did nothing happen in South Yorkshire yesterday? Can't believe the only thing the Star thought newsworthy enough to put on the front page was a story about a landlord telling an untidy tenant to tidy the garden!

Maybe they should just not bother publishing on the days when there is nothing to report.

Kent must be nearer to Germany than it looks on the map

Artisan, you won't like this, but if Kev lives where he claims to live in Kent, he'll be in a staunch Tory area - that's cheered you up (!) :P

I think you are all being too harsh on her. The Star have so obviously tailored the story to make her look bad.

She has said she is willing to clean it up.

Yeah - she ought to have done something about it but the council ignoring the face there are needles being thrown into her garden is just as bad!

Artisan, you won't like this, but if Kev lives where he claims to live in Kent, he'll be in a staunch Tory area - that's cheered you up (!) :P

I trust that you are not trying to suggest that I dont like Soft, Southern, Tory Jessies? Nothing could be nearer the truth :thumbsup:

"mmmmmm that's probably why she had children then eh? The undeniable discomfort of pregnancy, the pain of childbirth, a lifetime of responsibility - in return for a council house, please!"

It’s a career option for some!

"Ive just been having a chuckle at the picture, Ive noticed she got a remote in her hand! Quality"


Probably Sky , I wonder who’s paying for that?

"Ive just been having a chuckle at the picture, Ive noticed she got a remote in her hand! Quality"


Probably Sky , I wonder who’s paying for that?


It looks very much like a Telewest digital cable one to me.

She has got no excuse. She only has to spend a couple of hours a week tidying up with a bin bag clearing the litter away.
I dont think the council are demanding Alan Titchmarsh standard gardening just a bit of tidying up.

Well heres my honest opinion.I am a full time stay at home mum, I have a partner who works, two school age kids and one pre-school.My garden is in desperate need of my attention, and it's on my mental list of "things to do", but it rarely makes it to top of the list.When you have small kids it is a never ending cycle of meal times preparing/eating/feeding and cleaning up, dirty nappies,wheres my potty?,mountains of laundry, hoovering,mopping playgroup,playing,toy sorting,the list goes on and on and it is hard to fit in all those extra things which you intend to do.I love it when I get chance to do the gardening, but it is really hard to get stuck into it with 3 little ones running around, squabling, wanting you to play, being intrested in all the dangerous things like sacateurs,rakes, spades etc. that you need to have around.You finnaly get every one togged up to be outside , then it rains, or someone needs a wee etc.I'm lucky enough to live in a good area where junkies needles are thankfully not a problem, but if I lived somewhere that this was a problem, I wouldn't dare take my eyes off them.How do we know if the beer cans are hers or public litter?
Yes it would be great if every garden looked beautiful,and in an ideal world they would.I hope this girl sorts out her garden, has the chance to enjoy it, and it doesn't get full of other peoples litter in the future( which often is the case) .
When you walk around, Millhouses,Whirlow Dale and such areas, it is fun to nosey in the gardensand some are beautiful, but how many of these are done by "the gardener"and the cleaner probably does the cleaning, whilst the nanny sorts out the kids.
Give the girl a break, but without a car it's difficult and gardening tools and plants aren't cheap.Yes she should sort it out and she proberbly will now.But does she really deserve the slagging off you lot are giving her? it cant be easy having 3 little ones at 22.

Here here!! At the end of the day she's said she will tidy the garden, why do people still feel the need to call her this that and the other?!!!

Just to let everyone know that the garden in question is now imaculate!!

This week's "Star" had a half page with photos etc. after a local fencing company stepped in with donations of labour, turf, materials & equipment from themselves and a few other local businesses.

The article also said that the tenant had already shifted the rubbish and tidied the hedges herself.

Well that's nice. Totally neglect something, get threatened by the authuorities, play the sympathy card and hey presto! it's all done for you. It's just another case of "if you do it yourself even with a struggle" you get no help at all but be of the "i don't give a toss" ilk they'll come and do it for you. New fence FGS. My daughter would love one but because she's a working single mother paying her own way as best she can I know what they would say to her if she asked for her garden to be done.:rant: :rant: :rant:

Any paving companies out there who would like to block pave my driveway?Its falling to bits and i just cant be bothered to do it myself,i can supply pictures to prove it to anyone out there who wants to spend their money and time on a lazy old git as myself.

I saw that article, about her garden makeover, sheshe.

I'm a bit miffed that someone young, fit, able, and healthy gets their garden made over.

why could the company that did this have not done it for someone who is disabled, or elderly-infirm, and physically unable to maintain their garden?

I am disabled, and am getting no end of grief from my housing association, because I am unable to mow my own lawn, and the person I employed to do it has let me down badly, not turning up etc. I have asked my HA if, under the circumstances they could extend the gardening service they provide to the flats next door, to me and I will pay extra on my service charges... but no! I have to find someone reliable who would come and cut me my lawn, and trim back the cotoneaster shrubs that are encroaching from next door.

Any volunteers, please?? Is there anyone who is fit to come and do a bit of lawn-mowerage to a disabled lady's lawn, earning yourself a few quid into the bargain? and as many cups of tea/ coffe as you'd like to sup?

It's not right. That young woman, if each had their own, was perfectly able to mow her own garden, and tidy it up. Why should she get priveliges like that, when there are folks around (and yes I include myself in this) who are genuinely struggling?

PT

Yes, I saw the pictures and very nice it looked too. New fencing, turf, plants and shingle.

Now I'm afraid I'm not a single mum, work part-time and only have 2 kids but constantly have bottles, cans, wrappers and used condoms thrown over into our garden. Do you think I'd get a free garden makeover? :shakes:

I truly hope the family, particularly the children, enjoy their new garden but this just gives no incentive for anyone to do things for themselves. :(

Can I just point out, BTW, before some prepare themselves to bounce off my head....

that I am not saying that this single mother was specifically UNdeserving, just pointing out that there are cases MORE deserving.

PT
edited to correct the underlining

Can I just point out, BTW, before some prepare themselves to bounce off my head....

that I am not saying that this single mother was specifically UNdeserving, just pointing out that there are cases MORE deserving.

PT

Can I just point out that you got your underline tags wrong for the second underline? I corrected it for this quote though :D

thanks, rich! :D gone to alter that mistake, now! ty
PT

I suppose though that the fencing company probably viewed it as a bit of good free publicity for their business.
What I'm morre surprised at was that none of the lonely single males on this forum didn't rush to her aid as I can't recollect a partner or boyfriend being mentioned at any point.
PT when the weather improves I suggest you hold a garden party and make sure everyone comes armed with a gardening implement [many hands make light work]

that sounds like a good idea, wallbuilder... I like the sound of that.

A barbecue.... food provided to all who come and do a bit to my garden, eh? bring a bottle for when you've done...

;) ;) ;) ;) right, just got to ascertain which two days the decent weather is going to fall on, this year.... ;) ;) ;) ;) then I can book folks to come along...

:D

PT

I suppose though that the fencing company probably viewed it as a bit of good free publicity for their business.
What I'm morre surprised at was that none of the lonely single males on this forum didn't rush to her aid as I can't recollect a partner or boyfriend being mentioned at any point.
PT when the weather improves I suggest you hold a garden party and make sure everyone comes armed with a gardening implement [many hands make light work]

Might be a lonely, single male but not that desperate, I'd have to change my name to Wayne, get a dodgy Ford Capri, don a burberry cap, take up smoking, sign on, watch celebrity big brother and lose every brain cell I have. Then I could have appeared with her in the paper holding one of her children, TV remote in hand, fag in gob, looking pitiful.

Nah, think I missed a bullet there :D

Well, how many times does that happen? The people who ought to be ashamed of themselves are always the ones featured in The Star telling the world how hard done to they are. She obviously has enough time for some fake tan sessions! Wonder when they took that picture - it's been freezing here for a good few days now and yet she's only wearing that vest. Bet she'd have done it topless given half a chance. No, another lazy slapper, living in her own sh*t and not caring how disgusting it looks. 3 kids at 22? No bloody sense either. And I shouldn't think the kids will be playing outside till they're old enough to steal cars...

Well I would give the dog a bone.

Just to let everyone know that the garden in question is now imaculate!!

This week's "Star" had a half page with photos etc. after a local fencing company stepped in with donations of labour, turf, materials & equipment from themselves and a few other local businesses.

The article also said that the tenant had already shifted the rubbish and tidied the hedges herself.

Okay can I have their number please :thumbsup: As previously posted my garden is currently open plan due to dodgy workmen and high winds. The quote I had to re-fence it was just short of £1000 so any donations are most welcome :rolleyes:

Okay can I have their number please

ALAN Titchmarsh eat your heart out!

An eyesore garden in Sheffield has been transformed after being given a Ground Force-style makeover.

Kind-hearted Kevin Henley-Smith, who owns N&K Boundary Fencing and Landscaping Services in Rotherham, took pity on Leanne Humphries after she was slapped with an injunction by Sheffield Council forcing her to tidy up her rubbish-strewn garden in Wybourn.

The mum-of-three, aged 22, was warned she faced being jailed if she didn't carry out the work within two weeks.
Before the facelift, Leanne's garden was overgrown, covered in rubbish and there was a hole burned in the middle of the back lawn.

First Leanne cleared empty beer cans, litter and rubbish bags from her unsightly garden and trimmed lawns and hedges with the help of her sister.

Then Kevin, 26, and his pals did an Alan Titchmarsh when they stepped in to put up fences, lay turf and put in plants to brighten up the garden on Maltravers Crescent, Wybourn.

They spent three days carrying out the work.
Kevin said: "I felt a bit sorry for the kids to be honest and I thought they needed somewhere nice to play in the summer.

"We wanted to make it as safe and secure as possible and put up fences to stop people throwing their rubbish into the garden and stop it blowing in off the street."

Leanne said: "I'm really pleased with it. They are really kind to help me out. I couldn't have done this on my own and now the kids have got a nice safe garden to play in when it's summer."

The jobless mum had claimed the mess was not all her fault - because people
walk past her home and throw cans and rubbish over the fence into her garden.
And she said she was too busy looking after three children all aged under five to spend time gardening.

Kevin was supported by Kiveton Turf Supplies who donated turf, Dinnington
Builders Centre, who donated concrete and Dinnington Hire Centre who loaned him a rotivator.

polly.rippon@sheffieldnewspapers.co.uk

Well I would give the dog a bone.

I think that says rather too much about you.

The companies are obviously just after free publicitiy, which has succeded, and she just couldn't be bothered to do work that she could. Winners all round (irony filter fully engaged).

I saw that article, about her garden makeover, sheshe.

I'm a bit miffed that someone young, fit, able, and healthy gets their garden made over.

why could the company that did this have not done it for someone who is disabled, or elderly-infirm, and physically unable to maintain their garden?

I am disabled, and am getting no end of grief from my housing association, because I am unable to mow my own lawn, and the person I employed to do it has let me down badly, not turning up etc. I have asked my HA if, under the circumstances they could extend the gardening service they provide to the flats next door, to me and I will pay extra on my service charges... but no! I have to find someone reliable who would come and cut me my lawn, and trim back the cotoneaster shrubs that are encroaching from next door.

Any volunteers, please?? Is there anyone who is fit to come and do a bit of lawn-mowerage to a disabled lady's lawn, earning yourself a few quid into the bargain? and as many cups of tea/ coffe as you'd like to sup?

It's not right. That young woman, if each had their own, was perfectly able to mow her own garden, and tidy it up. Why should she get priveliges like that, when there are folks around (and yes I include myself in this) who are genuinely struggling?

PT


Where do you live PT? As it needs doing a lot in the summer you need someone living fairly close so that once they get their mower out to do their own they can just nip round and do yours. Any fit young men to give PT a hand with her lawn?

Also I think its very inflexible of the housing association not to help out. Who is your local councillor? Can he write to them and shame them into it?

PS I will come to your garden party and do a bit of pruning if you like, but I cant mow cos of my bad back (I have to get a man in too!).

What I'm morre surprised at was that none of the lonely single males on this forum didn't rush to her aid as I can't recollect a partner or boyfriend being mentioned at any point.


lol... they probably like being single, plus didnt someone mention 3 kids too?

i'm not going to comment here -i can see that house from where i am sitting

I do agree with her comment on people chucking litter over her wall, they do it alot to my garden purely because it slopes down and they obviously find it funny.

So go easy on her in that respect - round here i'm afraid it is a true everyday thing.

However being unemployed she should have the time, then again the council should help her out - afterall they still get her rent from the DSS

maybe if she wasen't knocked up purely so she could stay at home she might be able to do something - also if her house goes up on proeprtyshop im putting in abid lol

What I'm morre surprised at was that none of the lonely single males on this forum didn't rush to her aid

Well i'm not single, but i never thought of that :)

i've seen her in the steet - she's not bad actually!

The quote I had to re-fence it was just short of £1000 :o Who in God's name quoted you that price??!!!

Well said - she said clapping loudly :)

Bloody scroungers!

Crikey you are all very judgemental aren't you. I can't help but wonder whether your opinions might be slightly different if the story was about a young MAN struggling with his responsibilities however........

yeah.....cause a man getting custody of 3 kids WOULD happen......


.....ROFL!