I mention this after just watching a prog about people baking cakes on BBC 2. This rather large lady gave of an expression of having a jolly demure, but my overall feeling is she felt very bad about herself.

This theory is added by my experience in the pub last night. Sat on my own again, drinking like a madman, I observed fat ladies laughing out loud and throwing themselves on stick insect junkie men. And fat blokes. Later in the night, two of theses fat ladies broke down in tears and one shouted that she is deeply unhappy with her life.

Are fat women hiding? Are fat women deeply unhappy?

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLL NO!

We eat what we want, when we want. We drink what we want. We don't have to torture ourselves squishing into size nothing clothes that are uncomfortable. If we put on a few pounds over Christmas, or on holidays, no-one notices. People notice every extra pound a skinny girl puts on.

People always say 'have you lost weight - you look great' and not
'have you put on weight, you're looking....erm....healthy?'

I once had a friend who was slightly ditzy say to me 'I wish I was smart like you inhstead of pretty like me, then people may take me seriously'. I didn't take offence as she was one of those pure souls who never mean anything in a negative way, but I thought - yeah - people DO take me seriously.

I love being a large (l)ass.

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLL NO!

We eat what we want, when we want. We drink what we want. We don't have to torture ourselves squishing into size nothing clothes that are uncomfortable. If we put on a few pounds over Christmas, or on holidays, no-one notices. People notice every extra pound a skinny girl puts on.

People always say 'have you lost weight - you look great' and not
'have you put on weight, you're looking....erm....healthy?'

I once had a friend who was slightly ditzy say to me 'I wish I was smart like you inhstead of pretty like me, then people may take me seriously'. I didn't take offence as she was one of those pure souls who never mean anything in a negative way, but I thought - yeah - people DO take me seriously.

I love being a large (l)ass.

Good for you girl! But do you have mates who don't have the same outlook?

why should fat women be sad --and why should they be any sadder then fat men.

why should fat women be sad --and why should they be any sadder then fat men.

A very good question. I feel that fat blokes get away with it easier. Look at Jonny Vegas - he is as fat as a house next door to Burger King. But gets over (not over walls) but men are more accepted with bigger sizes. Might come down to sexism.

Are Fat Women Deeply Sad Inside?

No, they're full of chocolate.

its what's on the inside that counts

cliche I know

No, they're full of chocolate.

A sweeping statement and not at all helpful.

A sweeping statement and not at all helpful.

it did make me do a lol

its what's on the inside that counts

cliche I know

But what about the outside? Is that why so many fat ladies are sad?

A very good question. I feel that fat blokes get away with it easier. Look at Jonny Vegas - he is as fat as a house next door to Burger King. But gets over (not over walls) but men are more accepted with bigger sizes. Might come down to sexism.

Or it might come down to the projected image of what is beautiful. Hour glass figures have been the shape that advertises. We've been sold a certain look haven't we. As to whether they are sad or not i wouldn't know. I would imagine that some would not be happy with their size but most of us have something about ourselves we would change if we could.

I think this is a sterotypical comment as who is to say that ladies who are larger are any sadder than ladies who are slim.....the way you feel isnt necessarily down to your size but down the way you live and the outlook you have on life.

I am a larger girl - and I am perfectly happy with the way I am/look etc and my outlook is if you dont like it then fair enough, but I am me and thats all that matters in life.

If there are larger women or men who arent happy with themselves then there is things that can be done to help - so they dont have to be depressed, and thats the same with people who are slim and depressed.....but as i said the depression may be down to something other than the size!

But what about the outside? Is that why so many fat ladies are sad?

what is on the outisde is only of consequence to the men they are tryign to attract.

If they feel like they need a man who is attracted to them purely on a physical basis then they have some low self esteem issues. I'd like to think they dont feel like they have to live their lives looking for the approval of others.

Or it might come down to the projected image of what is beautiful. Hour glass figures have been the shape that advertises. We've been sold a certain look haven't we. As to whether they are sad or not i wouldn't know. I would imagine that some would not be happy with their size but most of us have something about ourselves we would change if we could.

Very well put. But I think we are all to blame. If a see a large lady in a swimming costume - I just gawp like a Corsa driver looking at a green three wheeler. I just cannot help it. I think we all do.

Good for you girl! But do you have mates who don't have the same outlook?

nup - all my friends are skinny.
I'm the one with the good sense of humour!

Very well put. But I think we are all to blame. If a see a large lady in a swimming costume - I just gawp like a Corsa driver looking at a green three wheeler. I just cannot help it. I think we all do.

I have blue bathers and a blue towel.
Last time I was in Australia, people kept saying 'beeched ez, bru'. When I found out what they were referrring to, I wet myself laughing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdVHZwI8pcA

I'm glad I can bring humour to people's lives even when I don't realise. :D

what is on the outisde is only of consequence to the men they are tryign to attract.

If they feel like they need a man who is attracted to them purely on a physical basis then they have some low self esteem issues. I'd like to think they dont feel like they have to live their lives looking for the approval of others.

Sure, but most men like fit ladies, don't they? I have never seen a plump page 3 lady.

yes it is sexism .the only reason to be sad if your fat is if its affecting your health.........what is sad is that so many women seem to see themselves as fat when they are not.of course that is all to do with the popular culture of our time.

Very well put. But I think we are all to blame. If a see a large lady in a swimming costume - I just gawp like a Corsa driver looking at a green three wheeler. I just cannot help it. I think we all do.

I agree but are we like that because of TV, film and other media or do we genuinely prefer a different kind of woman. Would it matter were it not for advertising?

Are fat women hiding? Are fat women deeply unhappy?

Deeply unhealthy, out of breath, sweaty, arthritic, diabetic but not always unhappy.

yes it is sexism .the only reason to be sad if your fat is if its affecting your health.........what is sad is that so many women seem to see themselves as fat when they are not.of course that is all to do with the popular culture of our time.

I agree, how can we change theses views?

I mention this after just watching a prog about people baking cakes on BBC 2. This rather large lady gave of an expression of having a jolly demure, but my overall feeling is she felt very bad about herself.

This theory is added by my experience in the pub last night. Sat on my own again, drinking like a madman, I observed fat ladies laughing out loud and throwing themselves on stick insect junkie men. And fat blokes. Later in the night, two of theses fat ladies broke down in tears and one shouted that she is deeply unhappy with her life.

Are fat women hiding? Are fat women deeply unhappy?

Excuse me, but didn't your avatar used to be a large woman sitting next to a very small man? I suspect you are secretly a chubby chaser (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chubby%20chaser). Admit it.

I agree but are we like that because of TV, film and other media or do we genuinely prefer a different kind of woman. Would it matter were it not for advertising?

Advertising plays a massive role, for sure. But don't the advertisers 'feed' of what the general viewers want? If the next hollywood blockbuster about action and effects, would they place a large lady in the starring role, and would you pay to see it? Would it make a profit if, say, Jo Brand was the leading actress?

Deeply unhealthy, out of breath, sweaty, arthritic, diabetic but not always unhappy.

Have you hit a root nerve, with this post?

Sure, but most men like fit ladies, don't they? I have never seen a plump page 3 lady.

why do women have to strive to achieve what most men want?

Advertising plays a massive role, for sure. But don't the advertisers 'feed' of what the general viewers want? If the next hollywood blockbuster about action and effects, would they place a large lady in the starring role, and would you pay to see it? Would it make a profit if, say, Jo Brand was the leading actress?

Nah you see i have it the other way. I think the ideal has been manufactured and sold to us and it's difficult to accept anything else.

Have you hit a root nerve, with this post?

Only with fat women but its ok.
I can out run them if needs be.

why do women have to strive to achieve what most men want?

Insecurity?
A need to please the dominant sex?
Other than that im really not sure.
Theres always stupidity but if i say that ill be branded a sexist.

why do women have to strive to achieve what most men want?

I don't know that they do, there's plenty aim for that so called perfection because of what it means, because it supposedly leads to success. They're as brainwashed as the rest of us.

Theres always stupidity but if i say that ill be branded a sexist.

You infered it sexist :D

You infered it sexist :D

Damn you!!
:hihi:

Damn you!!
:hihi:

I still laughed :D

I still laughed :D

Then my work is done.:D

we are all to influenced by tv,films and advertising.both men and women.thats why we are never satisfied.but some seem to be more affected then others

Nah you see i have it the other way. I think the ideal has been manufactured and sold to us and it's difficult to accept anything else.

So do men like the notion of fat ladies nude?

we are all to influenced by tv,films and advertising.both men and women.thats why we are never satisfied.but some seem to be more affected then others

Are you attracted to fat blokes?

So do men like the notion of fat ladies nude?

It depends on a lot of things i think.
The main thing is alcohol level in the blood stream.

Are you attracted to fat blokes?

You mean men of stature?

It is possible to be fat and fit.

It is possible to be fat and fit.

Im skinny and cant run at all, I know blokes who loo fat compared to me but can run miles. I doubt I could run to the shops

I am not at all influenced by women on tv/in magazines etc - I am who I am and not what the public expect me to be as a women.

"The dress size of the average British woman has grown from 12 to 14 in just over a decade, researchers said yesterday..........David Rowlinson, who co-ordinated the survey, said: “Modern women are taller, with bigger frames, larger hips and breasts. There’s nothing wrong with being a size 14, it’s just the way most women are.”
http://vikki64.wordpress.com/2011/04/25/the-average-uk-womens-dress-size/

This shows that not everyone expects size 6/8 or even size 0 in women. I am slightly bigger than the average but I am happy with it as I am healthy. Maybe I couldnt run a marathon but i wouldnt want to either!

I am in a happy loving relationship and have been for nearly 5 years, and all my friends of various sizes are also in relationships/married etc so i dont think you have to be skinny to be happy, as everyone likes something different in a relationship and looks arent everything - its cliche but its personality that means more in the long run

It is possible to be fat and fit.

Do you mean healthy fit only there's a lot of top athletes with a fuller figure male and female.

i am wot a am dont need no excuses lol fat? thin wots it matter as long as your happy/healthy ????? you need to love yourself 1st and be happy in the skin your in :)

You mean men of stature?

Is that a MOS joke? :hihi:

Very well put. But I think we are all to blame. If a see a large lady in a swimming costume - I just gawp like a Corsa driver looking at a green three wheeler. I just cannot help it. I think we all do.

What is it with you? Didn't your mama teach you not to stare?

Advertising plays a massive role, for sure. But don't the advertisers 'feed' of what the general viewers want? If the next hollywood blockbuster about action and effects, would they place a large lady in the starring role, and would you pay to see it? Would it make a profit if, say, Jo Brand was the leading actress?

Big girl leading ladies? A favorite of mine, Kathy Bates. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nByAshpybOo)

And: Face it, girls... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXZs3mjGlQU)

It is possible to be fat and fit.

Please explain! I know some stick thin junkies that are thin and are amazingly unfit. But can you name a fat person (like a celeb) who is fit and fat as well?

Are you attracted to fat blokes?

now you are just being silly.it is obvious you posted this thread to get argumentative response from women ....more fool i for not at first realising this.

What is it with you? Didn't your mama teach you not to stare?

But we all do, don't we? You must have a gawp too.

now you are just being silly.it is obvious you posted this thread to get argumentative response from women ....more fool i for not at first realising this.

In no way whatsoever. It's a serious question. I guess it's a no then.

Please explain! I know some stick thin junkies that are thin and are amazingly unfit. But can you name a fat person (like a celeb) who is fit and fat as well?

There are many fat marathon runners. Fat is just tissue surrounding muscle...... It is muscle fitness that describes how fit you are.

Please explain! I know some stick thin junkies that are thin and are amazingly unfit. But can you name a fat person (like a celeb) who is fit and fat as well?

Depends on what you consider fat, I like Amanda Redman.

now you are just being silly.it is obvious you posted this thread to get argumentative response from women ....more fool i for not at first realising this.

Bingo. I hate to bandy the term troll around since it's so tired and overused. But TROLL. *sigh*

What is it with you? Didn't your mama teach you not to stare?



Big girl leading ladies? A favorite of mine, Kathy Bates. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nByAshpybOo)

And: Face it, girls... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXZs3mjGlQU)Now she's playing Harry on TV, Brilliant.

There are many fat marathon runners. Fat is just tissue surrounding muscle...... It is muscle fitness that describes how fit you are.

I wish you could be more spefic. Maybe Fatima Whitbread??

Now she's playing Harry on TV, Brilliant.

Kathy Bates? That's my point, that was some art film on the link. She has to play 'quirky' roles. She would never lead a mainstream 'bums on seats' type deal.

Depends on what you consider fat, I like Amanda Redman.

Who she? Link please.

Who she? Link please.

Actress and no, go google.....

What is it with you? Didn't your mama teach you not to stare?



Big girl leading ladies? A favorite of mine, Kathy Bates. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nByAshpybOo)

And: Face it, girls... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXZs3mjGlQU)

Camryn Manheim
Rosanne Barr ( :D)
Queen Letifa
Melissa McCarthy
Ashley Fink
Kathy Najimy
Conchatta Ferrell

to name a few

But we all do, don't we? You must have a gawp too.

For goodness sake. NO. I might glance, but that's it.

Sorry, but your attitude bothers me. It bothers me that women allow themselves to be controlled like this. It also bugs that people miss out on life because they're worried about what others will think of them if they go to the beach or pool.

I've never been (much) overweight and I suppose I look pretty good for a woman my age who's had two kids. I exercise and watch my diet more because I'm worried about my health. But there have been times such as after the births of my children, when instead of fully enjoying motherhood and my baby, I was stressing about getting back into my prepregnancy clothing ASAP. If I had it to do over again, I'd have that second helping of dessert and worry less.

Big people are not suffering from some mysterious lack of willpower. Telling someone with food issues to "just stop eating' is like telling an alcoholic to just stop drinking or a drug addict to just stop using.

I think if you had even a tiny inkling of how some people torture themselves and feel bad about themselves all because they're the wrong size, you wouldn't start ridiculous threads like this.

Camryn Manheim
Rosanne Barr ( :D)
Queen Letifa
Melissa McCarthy
Ashley Fink
Kathy Najimy
Conchatta Ferrell

to name a few

Yes, ma'aaam!!! Towanda! :hihi::hihi:

Inside every misserable fat woman is a lovely slim lady.

They get snacky..and jealous.

Camryn Manheim
Rosanne Barr ( :D)
Queen Letifa
Melissa McCarthy
Ashley Fink
Kathy Najimy
Conchatta Ferrell

to name a few...

...hundred weight:hihi:

For goodness sake. NO. I might glance, but that's it.

Sorry, but your attitude bothers me. It bothers me that women allow themselves to be controlled like this. It also bugs that people miss out on life because they're worried about what others will think of them if they go to the beach or pool.

I've never been (much) overweight and I suppose I look pretty good for a woman my age who's had two kids. I exercise and watch my diet more because I'm worried about my health. But there have been times such as after the births of my children, when instead of fully enjoying motherhood and my baby, I was stressing about getting back into my prepregnancy clothing ASAP. If I had it to do over again, I'd have that second helping of dessert and worry less.

Big people are not suffering from some mysterious lack of willpower. Telling someone with food issues to "just stop eating' is like telling an alcoholic to just stop drinking or a drug addict to just stop using.

I think if you had even a tiny inkling of how some people torture themselves and feel bad about themselves all because they're the wrong size, you wouldn't start ridiculous threads like this.

I gawp at beautiful people - is that any different really?
Gawping at someone because of how they look is the same no matter what the gawpee looks like.

BTW - I know a LOT of fat people with huge amounts of will power.
It is the 'won't power' they are lacking :hihi:

For goodness sake. NO. I might glance, but that's it.

Sorry, but your attitude bothers me. It bothers me that women allow themselves to be controlled like this. It also bugs that people miss out on life because they're worried about what others will think of them if they go to the beach or pool.

I've never been (much) overweight and I suppose I look pretty good for a woman my age who's had two kids. I exercise and watch my diet more because I'm worried about my health. But there have been times such as after the births of my children, when instead of fully enjoying motherhood and my baby, I was stressing about getting back into my prepregnancy clothing ASAP. If I had it to do over again, I'd have that second helping of dessert and worry less.

Big people are not suffering from some mysterious lack of willpower. Telling someone with food issues to "just stop eating' is like telling an alcoholic to just stop drinking or a drug addict to just stop using.

I think if you had even a tiny inkling of how some people torture themselves and feel bad about themselves all because they're the wrong size, you wouldn't start ridiculous threads like this.

Thank you for that. But 'ridiculous threads like this' ? This thread already has numerous views and posters. How ridiculous is that? I asked a serious question.

Bingo. I hate to bandy the term troll around since it's so tired and overused. But TROLL. *sigh*

yes there a lot of them about .i have noticed

Kathy Bates? That's my point, that was some art film on the link. She has to play 'quirky' roles. She would never lead a mainstream 'bums on seats' type deal.

True, Kathy Bates isn't classically beautiful, even when she was younger. But isn't Hollywood a better place because some producer cast her in leading lady roles on the strength of her talent? You can't deny she's hecka talented.

Early in her career, she had a bit part as Gary Busey's wife in Straight Time. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5jgqUvu3fE) And she was thin as a rail. ;)

*Trivia* In the opening scene, Dustin Hoffman is seen being released from prison. This was filmed at Folsom State Prison. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folsom_State_Prison)

Thank you for that. But 'ridiculous threads like this' ? This thread already has numerous views and posters. How ridiculous is that? I asked a serious question.

I stand corrected. I find your attitude towards big girls/people ridiculous. You can't help staring at them? Really?

I stand corrected. I find your attitude towards big girls/people ridiculous. You can't help staring at them? Really?

You telling me this wouldnt be a little hypnotic? (http://www.tbseblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/fat-spandex.jpg)
Really?
What with all the jiggling and stuff??

I am size 16/18 and, as the Mika song suggests have curves in all the right places and a belly Reuben would have given his eye teeth to get on canvas. I also own 6 dogs, train others dogs (and mine) 3 nights a week, do a college course, work full time, judge at dog shows and generally run round and oft times meet myself coming back. As I am 5'4 and that size (have no clue as to my weight and could genuinely care less) the consultant said I was morbidly obese and needed to lose at least 5 stone in order to "fit" the bmi index in a way he found acceptable. I asked if he were interested in taking into account my exercise levels and he replied with a dismissive no. At which point I called him a pillock. To anyone out there who thinks I should not wear certain items as "they make me look fat" - they don't, I am fat! If my weight ever becomes an issue to me or I can no longer run round as much as I do and the wellbeing of my dogs begins to suffer, THEN I will do something about it, until then, anyone who has an opinion about my weight should keep it to themselves, fat, woman and happy of old Rotherham town

I am size 16/18 and, as the Mika song suggests have curves in all the right places and a belly Reuben would have given his eye teeth to get on canvas. I also own 6 dogs, train others dogs (and mine) 3 nights a week, do a college course, work full time, judge at dog shows and generally run round and oft times meet myself coming back. As I am 5'4 and that size (have no clue as to my weight and could genuinely care less) the consultant said I was morbidly obese and needed to lose at least 5 stone in order to "fit" the bmi index in a way he found acceptable. I asked if he were interested in taking into account my exercise levels and he replied with a dismissive no. At which point I called him a pillock. To anyone out there who thinks I should not wear certain items as "they make me look fat" - they don't, I am fat! If my weight ever becomes an issue to me or I can no longer run round as much as I do and the wellbeing of my dogs begins to suffer, THEN I will do something about it, until then, anyone who has an opinion about my weight should keep it to themselves, fat, woman and happy of old Rotherham town

Feisty bit 'o stuff aint ya :D

I am size 16/18 and, as the Mika song suggests have curves in all the right places and a belly Reuben would have given his eye teeth to get on canvas. I also own 6 dogs, train others dogs (and mine) 3 nights a week, do a college course, work full time, judge at dog shows and generally run round and oft times meet myself coming back. As I am 5'4 and that size (have no clue as to my weight and could genuinely care less) the consultant said I was morbidly obese and needed to lose at least 5 stone in order to "fit" the bmi index in a way he found acceptable. I asked if he were interested in taking into account my exercise levels and he replied with a dismissive no. At which point I called him a pillock. To anyone out there who thinks I should not wear certain items as "they make me look fat" - they don't, I am fat! If my weight ever becomes an issue to me or I can no longer run round as much as I do and the wellbeing of my dogs begins to suffer, THEN I will do something about it, until then, anyone who has an opinion about my weight should keep it to themselves, fat, woman and happy of old Rotherham town

Like most 'big boned' people you are clearly in denial.
Telling a health proffesional hes a pillock is a one way ticket to bad health.
On another note i find it hard to believe you do all that exercise if you are as big as you say.
Size 18 and only 5'4".
All i can say is :wow:

True, Kathy Bates isn't classically beautiful, even when she was younger. But isn't Hollywood a better place because some producer cast her in leading lady roles on the strength of her talent? You can't deny she's hecka talented.

Early in her career, she had a bit part as Gary Busey's wife in Straight Time. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5jgqUvu3fE) And she was thin as a rail. ;)

*Trivia* In the opening scene, Dustin Hoffman is seen being released from prison. This was filmed at Folsom State Prison. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folsom_State_Prison)

She is a extremely talented actress. No two ways about that.That film where she captures that guy and knocks his feet off is shocking. But, my point again, she would not gain a wider audience playing a lead role in a hollywood blockbuster. And the reason why? Because she is fat.

She is a extremely talented actress. No two ways about that.That film where she captures that guy and knocks his feet off is shocking. But, my point again, she would not gain a wider audience playing a lead role in a hollywood blockbuster. And the reason why? Because she is fat.

she's pretty good in the waterboy too

I gawp at beautiful people - is that any different really?
Gawping at someone because of how they look is the same no matter what the gawpee looks like.

BTW - I know a LOT of fat people with huge amounts of will power.
It is the 'won't power' they are lacking :hihi:

My willpower comes and goes. Sometimes it's sitting right next to me, other times I wave to it from a distance.

You raise a good point. In both cases, someone can be the center of attention because of their appearance. However, there's a major difference in being stared at because you are physically beautiful, and being stared at because you are odd looking. This is exactly the kind of attention that prevents people with body issues from enjoying life.

Nothing like being invited to a friend's beach house and wearing shorts and a T-shirt to take my babies swimming in the ocean because my swimsuit was still too tight and I refused to buy a bigger size. And this was entirely self imposed. My husband didn't care.

You telling me this wouldnt be a little hypnotic? (http://www.tbseblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/fat-spandex.jpg)
Really?
What with all the jiggling and stuff??

can't believe what i have just seen .words fail me.you certainly have a sence of humour.

she's pretty good in the waterboy too

Oh God, I LOVED her in Waterboy as the over possessive mama. "That's his sheet back there, dryin' on the line." :D

Like most 'big boned' people you are clearly in denial.
Telling a health proffesional hes a pillock is a one way ticket to bad health.
On another note i find it hard to believe you do all that exercise if you are as big as you say.
Size 18 and only 5'4".
All i can say is :wow:

And you, sir can stick your opinion where the sun don't shine too, I do not hide under the big boned label, I am a little, fat woman, as for not believing my exercise level I could care less about that offering too. And why is telling him he is a pillock a one way ticket to bad health, do you have any clue as to why I was there in the first place, I think not!!! Toddle off now back under your rock, your "game" has ceased to amuse!!!!

she's pretty good in the waterboy too

Is that the film with 'the fonz' in it?

And you, sir can stick your opinion where the sun don't shine too, I do not hide under the big boned label, I am a little, fat woman, as for not believing my exercise level I could care less about that offering too. And why is telling him he is a pillock a one way ticket to bad health, do you have any clue as to why I was there in the first place, I think not!!! Toddle off now back under your rock, your "game" has ceased to amuse!!!!

Im not playing a game but i do think your over sensitivity is going to lead you down an unpleasent road in later life :|

She is a extremely talented actress. No two ways about that.That film where she captures that guy and knocks his feet off is shocking. But, my point again, she would not gain a wider audience playing a lead role in a hollywood blockbuster. And the reason why? Because she is fat.

Wider audience? Are you serious? I think at this point, she's got her pick of roles.

Im not playing a game but i do think your over sensitivity is going to lead you down an unpleasent road in later life :|

Funny, most who know me often knock me for my lack of sensitivity.

Wider audience? Are you serious? I think at this point, she's got her pick of roles.

But theses roles and films are for the 'thinking film' goers. She would never have landed the role as 'Spidermans' love interest, for example. I'm sure you will agree on that point.

Is that the film with 'the fonz' in it?

ueah it does have the fonz in

You telling me this wouldnt be a little hypnotic? (http://www.tbseblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/fat-spandex.jpg)
Really?
What with all the jiggling and stuff??

Nope. Not to me. :)

Charlotte Coyle

ueah it does have the fonz in

He looks really old in the pics from that one.

Nope. Not to me. :)

What did you really think of that pic Sierra? Did you laugh (just a little).

Funny, most who know me often knock me for my lack of sensitivity.

Then stop moaning women. Im only have a laugh with you.
Ill leave off now though.
You may eat me:hihi:

Sorry,
Sorry,
honestly, thats it now.
Ill be good :)

But theses roles and films are for the 'thinking film' goers. She would never have landed the role as 'Spidermans' love interest, for example. I'm sure you will agree on that point.

Aaarrrrggggh. Just stop. There are actresses who make Kathy Bates look like pile of rubber tires. But they haven't got the talent she has in her pinky. Different roles have age and appearance ranges. Spiderman's girlfriend was a teenage girl. That would have been a stretch for her even if she was a size zero. You're comparing apples and oranges. Not all roles are meant for all actors, no matter their size. There are other factors in play here.

Kathy Bates started out loving her craft. She just wanted to work as an actress. I don't believe she ever wanted to be a "star". For most in Hollywood, that's the success they want. Just to be able to do what they love and get paid for it. A good example is Rance Howard. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rance_Howard) He did bit parts and got bigger roles but he's hardly a household name, yet he had a successful career. Oh, he's Ron Howard's dad.

Aaarrrrggggh. Just stop. There are actresses who make Kathy Bates look like pile of rubber tires. But they haven't got the talent she has in her pinky. Different roles have age and appearance ranges. Spiderman's girlfriend was a teenage girl. That would have been a stretch for her even if she was a size zero. You're comparing apples and oranges. Not all roles are meant for all actors, no matter their size. There are other factors in play here.

Kathy Bates started out loving her craft. She just wanted to work as an actress. I don't believe she ever wanted to be a "star". For most in Hollywood, that's the success they want. Just to be able to do what they love and get paid for it. A good example is Rance Howard. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rance_Howard) He did bit parts and got bigger roles but he's hardly a household name, yet he had a successful career. Oh, he's Ron Howard's dad.

getting all the happy days cast in tonight :cool:

What did you really think of that pic Sierra? Did you laugh (just a little).

No. Y'all are like a bunch of eight year old boys laughing at fart jokes. Not everyone shares your humor.

Then stop moaning women. Im only have a laugh with you.
Ill leave off now though.
You may eat me:hihi:

Sorry,
Sorry,
honestly, thats it now.
Ill be good :)
:hihi: can't find a kissy emoticons

getting all the happy days cast in tonight :cool:

I wish they would show Happy Days again. It was such a cheerful programme.The theme tune was terrific.:)

:hihi: can't find a kissy emoticons

:heyhey: This ones the nearest i could find.

I wish they would show Happy Days again. It was such a cheerful programme.The theme tune was terrific.:)


It was only good when Mr Miyagi was in it.
Wax on Wax off Fonzison:D

On a bit of a serious note, I have two friends who are sisters, both of whom are very Ill and desperately unhappy with their weight, their illness precludes any weight loss whatsoever, they will carry on growing unfortunately. It's not so much their weight that gets them down but how society treats them, as though they are somehow second class citizens. Both of these women work very hard and are extremely talented seamstresses, making theatrical costumes for the Northern Ballet but folk just don't get past the initial impression, which is desperately sad, as in pathetic of the folk treating them that way x

Aaarrrrggggh. Just stop. There are actresses who make Kathy Bates look like pile of rubber tires. But they haven't got the talent she has in her pinky. Different roles have age and appearance ranges. Spiderman's girlfriend was a teenage girl. That would have been a stretch for her even if she was a size zero. You're comparing apples and oranges. Not all roles are meant for all actors, no matter their size. There are other factors in play here.

Kathy Bates started out loving her craft. She just wanted to work as an actress. I don't believe she ever wanted to be a "star". For most in Hollywood, that's the success they want. Just to be able to do what they love and get paid for it. A good example is Rance Howard. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rance_Howard) He did bit parts and got bigger roles but he's hardly a household name, yet he had a successful career. Oh, he's Ron Howard's dad.

In the sense that some other actresses are bigger than her? And look like Michelin tyre ladies? I think we are missing the point here. KB is no doubt talented and all the other stuff. But TV, films and general advertising is focused on slim fit ladies. Do you agree?

Sorry, not read all of thread. Controversial I know, but is any fat person happy with being fat, regardless of their sex? I was very slim, then piled it on with my first pregnancy, it took me a while to lose the baby fat; I hated being big, was miserable as sin and highly self conscious. Now I'm back to a size 8-10 and much prefer it. If people are genuinely happy with being large then good luck to them, I envy them.

Sorry, not read all of thread. Controversial I know, but is any fat person happy with being fat, regardless of their sex? I was very slim, then piled it on with my first pregnancy, it took me a while to lose the baby fat; I hated being big, was miserable as sin and highly self conscious. Now I'm back to a size 8-10 and much prefer it. If people are genuinely happy with being large then good luck to them, I envy them.

I believe fat people arent happy, and besides that its not healthy, either for your heart or joints.

Sorry, not read all of thread. Controversial I know, but is any fat person happy with being fat, regardless of their sex? I was very slim, then piled it on with my first pregnancy, it took me a while to lose the baby fat; I hated being big, was miserable as sin and highly self conscious. Now I'm back to a size 8-10 and much prefer it. If people are genuinely happy with being large then good luck to them, I envy them.

Yeah, must the amazing to get out of breath from brushing your teeth, having arteries as solid as copper wire, sweat like a marathon (snickers for the chubbers) runner when doing things like walking, breathing and eating.
Yeah i envy the hell out of em.:hihi:

I believe fat people arent happy, and besides that its not healthy, either for your heart or joints.

They harm others health to you know.

In the sense that some other actresses are bigger than her? And look like Michelin tyre ladies? I think we are missing the point here. KB is no doubt talented and all the other stuff. But TV, films and general advertising is focused on slim fit ladies. Do you agree?

General advertising is focused on what sells. And generally yes, youth and beauty sell. Creating a need where none exists. Making people feel a certain way and believe their lives will be empty without whatever it is they're peddling. They appeal to people's emotions and worm their way into your pocketbook, to ultimately separate you from your money. That's all.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Years ago, I had someone tell me my pit bull dog was ugly with her shovel shaped head and body like a tank. But by pit bull standards, she was beautiful.

And I'm done. You have an issue with big girls, which I suppose is ok as long as you don't let it get too out of hand and offend someone.

General advertising is focused on what sells. And generally yes, youth and beauty sell. Creating a need where none exists. Making people feel a certain way and believe their lives will be empty without whatever it is they're peddling. They appeal to people's emotions and worm their way into your pocketbook, to ultimately separate you from your money. That's all.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Years ago, I had someone tell me my pit bull dog was ugly with her shovel shaped head and body like a tank. But by pit bull standards, she was beautiful.

And I'm done. You have an issue with big girls, which I suppose is ok as long as you don't let it get too out of hand and offend someone.

That is a very interesting point Sierra. But, I feel does not address the issue at hand.

That is a very interesting point Sierra. But, I feel does not address the issue at hand.

The only thing that would satisfy you would be me agreeing with you. And that's not going to happen. :)

The only thing that would satisfy you would be me agreeing with you. And that's not going to happen. :)

I wish not to win the debate this way!

Sorry, not read all of thread. Controversial I know, but is any fat person happy with being fat, regardless of their sex? I was very slim, then piled it on with my first pregnancy, it took me a while to lose the baby fat; I hated being big, was miserable as sin and highly self conscious. Now I'm back to a size 8-10 and much prefer it. If people are genuinely happy with being large then good luck to them, I envy them.

I was more upset at having a closetful of clothes I couldn't wear. Crap. Winter's coming and I can't fit into any of my coats! I refused to buy new ones. Although I had an expensive skirt that was rather snug before, and after I had my youngest I couldn't zip it all the way up. My husband's suggestion to "just wear it like that" didn't help. Yeah. On my son's first birthday, I conceded defeat and that skirt went to Goodwill. :(

They harm others health to you know.

In what way MrFloppy?

I wish not to win the debate this way!

Oh. I'm tired and I have stuff to do. Go to sleep now. :)

In what way MrFloppy?

suppose if they sat on someone

Oh. I'm tired and I have stuff to do. Go to sleep now. :)

Understand! Have a cool night :)

suppose if they sat on someone

That just nasty! :(

That just nasty! :(

sorry :(:(:(

I mention this after just watching a prog about people baking cakes on BBC 2. This rather large lady gave of an expression of having a jolly demure, but my overall feeling is she felt very bad about herself.

This theory is added by my experience in the pub last night. Sat on my own again, drinking like a madman, I observed fat ladies laughing out loud and throwing themselves on stick insect junkie men. And fat blokes. Later in the night, two of theses fat ladies broke down in tears and one shouted that she is deeply unhappy with her life. Are fat women hiding? Are fat women deeply unhappy?



Why do you assume that it was her size that made her unhappy? It could have been some other issue.
I've seen lean women break down and cry over something that's upset them

sorry :(:(:(

I forgive you :hihi:

Fat people should be treated like smokers are in society, made to feel like scum and worthless human beings, fatties have now become another easy scape goat for the self righteous lefties and it will continue until the Guardian pigeon holes them into a fashionable BME group.

Why do you assume that it was her size that made her unhappy? It could have been some other issue.
I've seen lean women break down and cry over something that's upset them

It's the overall picture Harleyman. I have noticed this pattern over numerous years. Fat women just seem to have this depressing 'air' about them.

Fat people should be treated like smokers are in society, made to feel like scum and worthless human beings, fatties have now become another easy scape goat for the self righteous lefties and it will continue until the Guardian pigeon holes them into a fashionable BME group.

To those not up on capital letter shortys, what is 'BME' Green Web?

It's the overall picture Harleyman. I have noticed this pattern over numerous years. Fat women just seem to have this depressing 'air' about them.

Not in my experience. The ones who seem to have a depressing air are the thin ones who daren't eat a slice of cake because of the calories or go into a fret if they've gained a couple of pounds over the weekend.

To those not up on capital letter shortys, what is 'BME' Green Web?

Body Mass index :-)

It's the overall picture Harleyman. I have noticed this pattern over numerous years. Fat women just seem to have this depressing 'air' about them.

perhaps its because there are too many people like you judging them.

Body Mass index :-)

Thanks for that, so you reckon peeps like fat ladies, it's all down to them?

Not in my experience. The ones who seem to have a depressing air are the thin ones who daren't eat a slice of cake because of the calories or go into a fret if they've gained a couple of pounds over the weekend.

That can happen, for sure. But don't you think that fat ladies, when looking in the mirror, feel even worse?

perhaps its because there are too many people like you judging them.

Christ! I don't judge nobody! Do you?

I can only say that in my case I am sad about my size but not all big women would be sad.

I can only say that in my case I am sad about my size but not all big women would be sad.

Good for you! Why do you feel sad?

I can only say that in my case I am sad about my size but not all big women would be sad.

don't feel sad about your size. if you feel sad you will probably just want to eat more.comfort eating as they call it.be confident with how you are.confidence always makes a person look better.

That can happen, for sure. But don't you think that fat ladies, when looking in the mirror, feel even worse?

How about fat bald headed guys looking the mirror?

Christ! I don't judge nobody! Do you?

just a bit of banter please don't take offence

The younger you are the more likely you are to have issues...they tend to become less important as the years increase...or take their toll.:hihi:

Look, fact is this.

Men love women with curves :love::love::love:

So stop dieting, have some cake and chill out.

If you want a scientific experiment to prove this? well here it is....

GO on a plane to a beach, where the ladys go topless and then you tell me, how many blokes are lookng at the skinny, non curvy women. I think you will find the blokes will be admiring the curves and the wobbly bits

I mention this after just watching a prog about people baking cakes on BBC 2. This rather large lady gave of an expression of having a jolly demure, but my overall feeling is she felt very bad about herself.

This theory is added by my experience in the pub last night. Sat on my own again, drinking like a madman, I observed fat ladies laughing out loud and throwing themselves on stick insect junkie men. And fat blokes. Later in the night, two of theses fat ladies broke down in tears and one shouted that she is deeply unhappy with her life.

Are fat women hiding? Are fat women deeply unhappy?

That doesn't make any sense.

In what way MrFloppy?

I forgot now. I had a really funny, witty joke and now ive slept so i cant bloody remember :roll:

Did Adolf Hitler not want a perfect race of people back in the 1930s and 1940s?

I know lots of women of all shapes and sizes. Most of them are very conscious about their weight and try and watch what they eat and/or exercise. Those who are overweight whom I know, on the whole constantly draw attention to the fact that they ought to lose weight and will get round to it, start a diet etc or are on a diet.

I think the biggest problem faced by very overweight people is that they find a healthy eating and exercise programme totally daunting. Many people give up diet and exercise unless they see instant results. Many who do lose weight slip back into old habits once the weight is off and find that it all creeps back on.

I can't think of a single woman who is 100% happy and confident about her size and weight. I've seen lots of thin people who are unhappy as they're under constant self-imposed pressure to remain svelte.

look, fact is this.

Men love women with curves :love::love::love:

So stop dieting, have some cake and chill out.

If you want a scientific experiment to prove this? Well here it is....

Go on a plane to a beach, where the ladys go topless and then you tell me, how many blokes are lookng at the skinny, non curvy women. I think you will find the blokes will be admiring the curves and the wobbly bits

well said!!!!!:d

What kind of question is that? I'm sure there are 'fat people' who are sad, but also 'fat' people who are happy. I guess if being overweight has caused a medical condition, that wouldn't add to anyone's happiness, likewise if their 'fat'ness is caused by overeating as a result of depression or some other deep rooted problem, or maybe their overall wellbeing is disturbed by their weight, or they strive to be thin, otherwise - not necessarily.

Thin people get sad too, etc etc etc, blah blah blah friggin blah..................

I was more upset at having a closetful of clothes I couldn't wear. Crap. Winter's coming and I can't fit into any of my coats! I refused to buy new ones. Although I had an expensive skirt that was rather snug before, and after I had my youngest I couldn't zip it all the way up. My husband's suggestion to "just wear it like that" didn't help. Yeah. On my son's first birthday, I conceded defeat and that skirt went to Goodwill. :(

There are, however, ladies of a more generous girth who are sitting on (not quite literally - but the wardrobes are full ;) ) clothes which might fit somebody who is not quite as slender as she once was.

pmail me with sizes required ...my wife is (finally) in 'download mode'

I personally think most women will never be happy with their weight and shape.

However I also think a lot of bigger women are in denial and don't really see what they look like. It's not until they see a picture of themselves they realise how big they are and that they need to lose weight.

Once they start losing weight and fitting into their old clothes and getting the compliments, feeling more confident they realise how unhappy they were before.

I've never been fat but I've got to the point where I wasn't happy with my size and how my clothes were fitting and can honestly say I didn't realise it was happening until I saw a picture of myself! Now I've lost weight and feel great!:)

That doesn't make any sense.

yes it does, read Dawn Frenchs autobiography

yes it does, read Dawn Frenchs autobiography

I think you misunderstand.

The relevant part of the sentence was ''This rather large lady gave of an expression of having a jolly demure''


'Demure' is an adjective. To say that someone has a 'jolly demure' doesn't make sense.

Who wants skinny women?

On the beach this summer, some of the fatter women had a right pair of knockers on them.

This is all a media myth, and why the hell are you women taken in by this? selling slimming pills and other things to make you slim.

Is there something wrong with me? when you see the women on Gok Wans "how to look good naked", they make my knees tremble. Yet, some of the skinny supermodels do nothing for me.

I accept that in the clothes mags/catelogs that skinny women are used, and yes, in clothes the skinny women with no boobs do look better (when in clothes)

But your average man wants boobs, a bum, wobbly thighs and something to get hold of :love::love: drool calm down love rat :love::love:

So please ladies, do us all a favour, put down the magazines with skinny women in, stop worrying about your weight and for god sake get a massive cup cake and shove it in you mouth

I think you misunderstand.

The relevant part of the sentence was ''This rather large lady gave of an expression of having a jolly demure''


'Demure' is an adjective. To say that someone has a 'jolly demure' doesn't make sense.

Ah! You were just being picky then? Top lad. :banana::banana::banana:

A demure jelly?

As in:

'Slap her on the arse and surf in with the tide?'

Who wants skinny women?

On the beach this summer, some of the fatter women had a right pair of knockers on them.

This is all a media myth, and why the hell are you women taken in by this? selling slimming pills and other things to make you slim.

Is there something wrong with me? when you see the women on Gok Wans "how to look good naked", they make my knees tremble. Yet, some of the skinny supermodels do nothing for me.

I accept that in the clothes mags/catelogs that skinny women are used, and yes, in clothes the skinny women with no boobs do look better (when in clothes)

But your average man wants boobs, a bum, wobbly thighs and something to get hold of :love::love: drool calm down love rat :love::love:

So please ladies, do us all a favour, put down the magazines with skinny women in, stop worrying about your weight and for god sake get a massive cup cake and shove it in you mouth

Which is why catwalk models are very different from glamour and porn ones. The former are marketed to women and the latter to men. However, unless you go for specialist fetish type porn, the models will invariably be slim but with large breasts. Culturally, the West does not celebrate or promote largeness.

Who wants skinny women?

On the beach this summer, some of the fatter women had a right pair of knockers on them.

This is all a media myth, and why the hell are you women taken in by this? selling slimming pills and other things to make you slim.

Is there something wrong with me? when you see the women on Gok Wans "how to look good naked", they make my knees tremble. Yet, some of the skinny supermodels do nothing for me.

I accept that in the clothes mags/catelogs that skinny women are used, and yes, in clothes the skinny women with no boobs do look better (when in clothes)

But your average man wants boobs, a bum, wobbly thighs and something to get hold of :love::love: drool calm down love rat :love::love:

So please ladies, do us all a favour, put down the magazines with skinny women in, stop worrying about your weight and for god sake get a massive cup cake and shove it in you mouth

Another well said!!!
Im still overweight after losing some (only due to health) Im very happy and confident and like a man with a bit of meat too.
I think it all depends on the person there are overweight people sad and happy for varying reasons.....I for one embrace the larger figure but accept too big has its health problems !!!! :)

Who wants skinny women?

On the beach this summer, some of the fatter women had a right pair of knockers on them.

This is all a media myth, and why the hell are you women taken in by this? selling slimming pills and other things to make you slim.

Is there something wrong with me? when you see the women on Gok Wans "how to look good naked", they make my knees tremble. Yet, some of the skinny supermodels do nothing for me.

I accept that in the clothes mags/catelogs that skinny women are used, and yes, in clothes the skinny women with no boobs do look better (when in clothes)

But your average man wants boobs, a bum, wobbly thighs and something to get hold of :love::love: drool calm down love rat :love::love:

So please ladies, do us all a favour, put down the magazines with skinny women in, stop worrying about your weight and for god sake get a massive cup cake and shove it in you mouth

I'm a curvy woman, not fat but I have tits and ass and a bit of wobble, I wish I was flatter, or neater as my mother calls it, just to feel less like a porn star in certain clothes. Skinny women tend to get away with wearing certain dresses without looking like they belong on page 3 us curvier girls find we have to cover up to ensure we don't, often (in my case) looking quite matronly.

it dosent matter if a womans large or tiny...if someones sad and unhappy it dosent really matter what size they are

I think you misunderstand.

The relevant part of the sentence was ''This rather large lady gave of an expression of having a jolly demure''


'Demure' is an adjective. To say that someone has a 'jolly demure' doesn't make sense.

OK Mr Habs, try demeanour instead :cool:

I believe fat people arent happy, and besides that its not healthy, either for your heart or joints.

I was very athletic up until my 20's, then piled on the weight when I stopped doing sport a dozen times a week. A couple of years ago, I was in a very stressfull situation and lost a lot of weight.

I have noticed that people ARE different around me depending on my weight.
I seem to attract shallow, superficial and fake people to me when I am slim and a MUCH better of class of people when I am carrying more weight.

I prefer to be bigger because I get treated like a human being rather than a 'friend of convenience' - ie, good to go out with, good to have on the wing when you're on the pull etc.

I'm a curvy woman, not fat but I have tits and ass and a bit of wobble, I wish I was flatter, or neater as my mother calls it, just to feel less like a porn star in certain clothes. Skinny women tend to get away with wearing certain dresses without looking like they belong on page 3 us curvier girls find we have to cover up to ensure we don't, often (in my case) looking quite matronly.

Babe - there is NO WAY you could look matronly. You look brilliant!! and you have a killer body (in purely hetro appreciation)

it dosent matter if a womans large or tiny...if someones sad and unhappy it dosent really matter what size they are

But aren't looks important in this world?

OK Mr Habs, try demeanour instead :cool:

Thankyou, that makes more sense.