Does Sheffield have any gangs? Im not wanting to start this thread to talk about the wrongs if being in a gang, just wanting to know about sheffield gang culture.

There are plenty in Birmingham, but I never hear anything about Sheffield.

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i suppose there are a few graffiti gangs / crews / posse's or whatever you want to call them, such as WSK, THC and such things. And then obviously you get your footy gangs, BBC etc. But i reckon there are a few territorial gangs for your local rude boys and gals.

BBC? Thats the Blades gang isnt it?

We have our own BBC, but they are totally different. Called the Burger Bar Crew. You probably saw on the news where them girls were killed on New years night in Brum because of gang feud between BBC and the Johnsons.

yeah i know about the burger bar crew, thats all bad that mate, i dont think sheffield has such a well known gang like that, well not one that are cold killers anyway. birmingham is a bit rougher than sheffield tho

I dont know of any specific gangs in Sheffield. You do have the BBC & OCS but these are football related. I have also seen or heard of groups of youths who are said to have control over certain territory/estate.

or like to think they have control over certain areas!

We also have the stone cold killers the Baked Potato Crew representin' on Abbeydale Road....
you lookin at my tatty? :suspect:

mate, watch what you say about the "tatty's" else you could also become baked!

or even worse - mashed up...

yes, yes

many been mashed and baked over the S7/S8 potato wars :hihi:

In the case of Sheffield several senior members of one of the Moss Side gangs effectively relocated across
the Pennines for a period of about a year between late 2000 to late 2001. During this time agencies in the
city reported an upsurge in gang type activity including violence in particular young offenders were drawn to
the real life gang members in their midst. Though the Moss Side gang members have recently returned to
Manchester their presence in Sheffield acted as a catalyst to the development of gang culture in the city.
Sheffield should now be regarded as an area with an emerging gang problem.

In the case of Sheffield several senior members of one of the Moss Side gangs effectively relocated across
the Pennines for a period of about a year between late 2000 to late 2001. During this time agencies in the
city reported an upsurge in gang type activity including violence in particular young offenders were drawn to
the real life gang members in their midst. Though the Moss Side gang members have recently returned to
Manchester their presence in Sheffield acted as a catalyst to the development of gang culture in the city.
Sheffield should now be regarded as an area with an emerging gang problem.

Where did you copy and paste that from? And what are your views?

more an issue with the 'new' european gangs who are monopolising the 'pizza' delivery routes of the city - its not only pizza that gets delivered .... they also do kebabs ;)

i copied and pasted it from here:

http://www.iansa.org/documents/2002/gang_culture_and_young_people1.pdf

i think everywhere has a problem with gangs to varying degrees and it would be naive to think sheffield is different. In sheffield it doesnt seems to be as publicised as it does in other cities apart from a few incidents most noteably at club element and the incident where the car drove into the forum, which was allegedly gang related.

Just to add that i was informed with someone who works in law (i dont have a link!) that gangs are on the way across from Russia (already here) and this will become prominent in the gun/prostitution side

Just to add that i was informed with someone who works in law (i dont have a link!) that gangs are on the way across from Russia (already here) and this will become prominent in the gun/prostitution side
better get the rocks in place, keep an eye on em

"....from a few incidents most noteably at club element and the incident where the car drove into the forum, which was allegedly gang related."

Interesting. I just thought it was someone who couldn't use their breaks properly... =/

so how do people know the forum "crash" was gang related? is the forum run by gangs? i never though the forum was a haven for gang members?

is it not?

not to my knowledge no.

theres nothing as 'organised' here akin to burgers/johnnies although there are 'crews' of people involved in criminal activity, as there are in any town/city. And yes, this means beef. Where there is potential for groups of young men to make vast amounts of money, there will always be something to argue over. Anyway, why do you want to know? Are you the next McIntyre? Or are you looking to join! Did anyone see the McIntyre last night about gangsters? Anyone from Manchester heard of noonans?

It was very amusing!! His 'heavies' were some 17 yr old skinny lads in suits... about as hard as pete burns...!

I saw that last night, it was hilarious!! If ever there was an advert to encourage people NOT to become gangsters, that had to be it. They didn't look like they had more than a fiver between em. Certainly didn't look like they had made crime pay did it.

With regards to gangs in Sheffield - I don't think that there are any cohesive large crews like in Birmingham, but lots of little groups of wannabees who regularly fall out with each other and change sides, hence lots of petty fights in clubs etc. I also think this is why out of towners come to Sheffield and 'tax' people from Sheffield, as it's easy for them to do it.

There was one in the mid 1990s called DUCE - it was a brilliant gang if you were not white. They were a mix of black/ethnic groups who combined and basically went after the white boys across some Sheffield schools and gave a good pasting to their foe. Obviously they broke up after they all left school but they did some after school activities like the murder of Grant Jackson, the fire at Waltheof Comp, bus fires, and a riot in Darnall.

I dont think theres any real gangs.but theres little groups of kids like the city boiz n birley crew.they make me laugh...

Have you not heard of the 'Firth Park Posse' or the Screwdriver crew from PX?

Have you not heard of the 'Firth Park Posse' or the Screwdriver crew from PX?

Are they real gangs though, or just some immature juvaniles who think its 'cool' to have a name for them and their friends.

they were real gangs - late 80's - the screwdriver boys used them instead of knives - were well known in the area when I was a young adult...

There was one in the mid 1990s called DUCE - it was a brilliant gang if you were not white. They were a mix of black/ethnic groups who combined and basically went after the white boys across some Sheffield schools and gave a good pasting to their foe. Obviously they broke up after they all left school but they did some after school activities like the murder of Grant Jackson, the fire at Waltheof Comp, bus fires, and a riot in Darnall.

So what actually made this gang great. The fact they went after white boys, murdered people, arson or the Darnall riots? Get a life!

Are you aware that in the 1920's Sheffield was known as 'Little Chicago' because of the level of gang activity in the City - there are some notorious stories about activities relating to some kind of gambling on coin games on Skye Edge. There is a book about it in the Library I think. Anyone got more knowledge about this?

Sheffield Gangs - were world reknown in the 20's - there's loads of books out about them... and probably one or two of their relatives on this very board

Sheffield gang Wars is by J.P.Bean. It's pretty good

There was one in the mid 1990s called DUCE - it was a brilliant gang if you were not white. They were a mix of black/ethnic groups who combined and basically went after the white boys across some Sheffield schools and gave a good pasting to their foe. Obviously they broke up after they all left school but they did some after school activities like the murder of Grant Jackson, the fire at Waltheof Comp, bus fires, and a riot in Darnall.

Sorry dude, the fact that they were all " NOT WHITE" doe not make this brilliant. That is sick! So to be black etc... and hang around lanning to go out and commit crime is brilliant?.
I hang around with my aquaintances who are "NOT WHITE" but we don't act like the aforementioned gang. Most of us,,,, no all of us attend church, work college, university and have successful lives so I hate to say it.... in fact I won't!!!!!!!!!!!!

There was one in the mid 1990s called DUCE - it was a brilliant gang if you were not white. They were a mix of black/ethnic groups who combined and basically went after the white boys across some Sheffield schools and gave a good pasting to their foe. Obviously they broke up after they all left school but they did some after school activities like the murder of Grant Jackson, the fire at Waltheof Comp, bus fires, and a riot in Darnall.

In correction to previous post....

Sorry dude, the fact that they were all " NOT WHITE" does not make this brilliant. That is sick! So to be black etc... and hang around planning to go out and commit crime is brilliant?.
I hang around with my aquaintances who are "NOT WHITE" but we don't act like the aforementioned gang. Most of us,,,, no all of us attend church, work college, university and have successful lives so I hate to say it.... in fact I won't!!!!!!!!!!!!

So what actually made this gang great. The fact they went after white boys, murdered people, arson or the Darnall riots? Get a life!

Of course - it was a sign that you could only pick on certain people for a time and one day they will fight back. The whole point of them being a gang was they did their business, in this case - violence.

Sorry dude, the fact that they were all " NOT WHITE" doe not make this brilliant. That is sick! So to be black etc... and hang around lanning to go out and commit crime is brilliant?.
I hang around with my aquaintances who are "NOT WHITE" but we don't act like the aforementioned gang. Most of us,,,, no all of us attend church, work college, university and have successful lives so I hate to say it.... in fact I won't!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well obviously your non-white friends are lucky to attend church, uni and college. The blacks & ethnics i encountered during the 90s were never destined for such heights given the discrimination and bigotry they faced. To have the audacity to turn the tables obviously upset the apple-cart.

also the famous or not so famous S11 or $ or S eleven......

:cool: One Of The Gangs In Sheffield In The 30s Was The Mooney Gang One Of The Gang Members Was My Great Granddad Very Roofless.....

Well obviously your non-white friends are lucky to attend church, uni and college. The blacks & ethnics i encountered during the 90s were never destined for such heights given the discrimination and bigotry they faced. To have the audacity to turn the tables obviously upset the apple-cart.

This guys non-white friends are not lucky.
Obviously they are hard working, intelligent and polite.
Could the same be said about the people you met or the members of this gang?

There was one in the mid 1990s called DUCE - it was a brilliant gang if you were not white. They were a mix of black/ethnic groups who combined and basically went after the white boys across some Sheffield schools and gave a good pasting to their foe. Obviously they broke up after they all left school but they did some after school activities like the murder of Grant Jackson, the fire at Waltheof Comp, bus fires, and a riot in Darnall.

I bet your parents are really proud of you eh? Did the riot in Darnall actually happen or is it in your head?

I remember the riot I believe he refers to.
It took place outside the Sportsman pub on Darnall main road in the mid 90's.
It started off when a group of kids tried gatecrashing a childrens party in the beergarden. They were told to go away as this had been organised and paid for by the pub regulars, to which they started throwing stones and bottles. They were then chased off by some of the people from the pub, only to return mob handed with some much older people, who it appeared were hell bent on causing as much trouble as possible. It culminated with the staff, regulars and their kids barricading themselves in the pub to keep out a sizeable mob of out of control idiots.
The police were duly called and arrested a number of youths / men for public order offences. This in turn caused a number of people to "demonstrate" outside the police station in which they were being held, crying that they had been treated unreasonably and arrested for no good reason.
Now there are the facts, but the plain truth is that they were just a bunch of snivelling, cowardly little sh*ts that had the collective IQ of a privet hedge.
Upset the apple cart???? None of the acts commited were politically oriented or designed to make anyone that could make a difference sit up and take notice. They were IMO commited purely on a racist basis, by a bunch of weak minded people who individually were socially inept losers that wouldn't say boo to a goose, but as a gang thought they were something special.
And yes I do know this from personal experience, as I was in the pub the day this took place AND knew some of the members of the mob that caused all the trouble.

DAZ 4967 mine was too - but did you mean ruthless?

DAZ 4967 mine was too - but did you mean ruthless?


Maybe he really was roofless. He might have lived on the street.

What a post by owlface, really interesting to have heard from someone who was there. That other guy needs to respond now, I want to hear what he says now about his 'brilliant' gang. Classy to pick on a childrens party. Also, really classy and brave to go and get their big brothers and other morons who should have known better than to side with kids, unless they were that weird type that cant forge friendships with people of their own age due to insufficient intellect / personality.

Well obviously your non-white friends are lucky to attend church, uni and college. The blacks & ethnics i encountered during the 90s were never destined for such heights given the discrimination and bigotry they faced. To have the audacity to turn the tables obviously upset the apple-cart.

Are you trying to tell us that there is an entrance exam or something to go to church? Not very likely, is it? And there are plenty of colleges that aren't in the least bit elitist. Stop trying to justify your stupid behaviour by pretending that there's nothing else to do. You live in the 4th largest city in Englan, for f's sake.

What a post by owlface, really interesting to have heard from someone who was there. That other guy needs to respond now, I want to hear what he says now about his 'brilliant' gang. Classy to pick on a childrens party. Also, really classy and brave to go and get their big brothers and other morons who should have known better than to side with kids, unless they were that weird type that cant forge friendships with people of their own age due to insufficient intellect / personality.

The other guy can't really respond because what Owlface says is pretty much how it happened and it wasn't a one off incident. There were groups kids walking the streets with lumps of wood threatening anybody who they passed. There were at least two other incidents that year involving attacks on the pub and they even stole the Landlords dog and tied it to the tramlines.

Didn't Sean Bean lead a gang, Handsworth way, back in the 70s?

Sean Bean ha ha ha no he didnt he might play hard man know but he was just an everyday guy back then

What a post by owlface, really interesting to have heard from someone who was there. That other guy needs to respond now, I want to hear what he says now about his 'brilliant' gang. Classy to pick on a childrens party. Also, really classy and brave to go and get their big brothers and other morons who should have known better than to side with kids, unless they were that weird type that cant forge friendships with people of their own age due to insufficient intellect / personality.

Thanks priggers.
I see the other guy hasn't bothered to justify his posts lately. I imagine he's too busy visiting his old gang member friends:loopy: in Doncaster prison.

I remember the riot I believe he refers to.
It took place outside the Sportsman pub on Darnall main road in the mid 90's.
It started off when a group of kids tried gatecrashing a childrens party in the beergarden. They were told to go away as this had been organised and paid for by the pub regulars, to which they started throwing stones and bottles. They were then chased off by some of the people from the pub, only to return mob handed with some much older people, who it appeared were hell bent on causing as much trouble as possible. It culminated with the staff, regulars and their kids barricading themselves in the pub to keep out a sizeable mob of out of control idiots.
The police were duly called and arrested a number of youths / men for public order offences. This in turn caused a number of people to "demonstrate" outside the police station in which they were being held, crying that they had been treated unreasonably and arrested for no good reason.
Now there are the facts, but the plain truth is that they were just a bunch of snivelling, cowardly little sh*ts that had the collective IQ of a privet hedge.
Upset the apple cart???? None of the acts commited were politically oriented or designed to make anyone that could make a difference sit up and take notice. They were IMO commited purely on a racist basis, by a bunch of weak minded people who individually were socially inept losers that wouldn't say boo to a goose, but as a gang thought they were something special.
And yes I do know this from personal experience, as I was in the pub the day this took place AND knew some of the members of the mob that caused all the trouble.

Yes but it got the reaction it warranted- after that day no white man can walk round Sheffield and pick on asians/blacks without reprisals. So for me as an outsider it was a watershed, the fact it happened at a pub is no here nor there.

Yes but it got the reaction it warranted- after that day no white man can walk round Sheffield and pick on asians/blacks without reprisals. So for me as an outsider it was a watershed, the fact it happened at a pub is no here nor there.

Watershed my ar*e. Did you actually read what I said had happened?
COWARDS AND THUGS - that's all the mob were, NOT some kind of wonderful anti racism movement as you would have us all believe. Also these actions did NOTHING to stop Asians allegedly being picked on at all, but in fact it had the opposite effect in that area. I know full well what happened as a result of this riot but am not prepared to go into detail and glorify this sort of behaviour as it appears you like to.