Just watching this now... WOW!
I'm interested in what people think who have watched the program.

I saw it the other evening. They're clearly nutters (aside from the chap with the beard) who had already made up their minds that it was all a conspiracy and no amount of reason or logic would make them reconsider. Good luck to them, it's all quite sad really.

I watched this, and the girl, Charlotte? She was really making me shout at the tv :hihi:, she was in no way going to be changed on anything was she, stupid girl :hihi:

that charlotte girl was making me mad too. she just wasnt listening to reasonable explanations and was just rude to people.

the beardy guy was/is a really known figure in the uk conspiracy community, so his turn around has caused a right 'ol kaffuffle.

one thing i wished they explained was the building 7 malarky

Please understand you are never going to gain proper information from 99% of all mainstream Tv as it is being controlled. I watched an interview recently with an old Panorama producer and he explained how they could only go so far in what they reported. The US media is even worse. You have to check on who owns them and their connections.

In general terms its disinformation and that’s why you just come away with feeling they are nutters. That is the way it is designed. I did not watch the programme but I bet the did not include anybody from the following websites.

If you are really interested then you have to look at the internet but try and be selective in what you believe as it gets swamped with bs also as a way of creating a fog.

Try this one, Architects and Engineers,
http://www.ae911truth.org
or this one, pilots,
http://pilotsfor911truth.org

Please understand you are never going to gain proper information from 99% of all mainstream Tv as it is being controlled. I watched an interview recently with an old Panorama producer and he explained how they could only go so far in what they reported. The US media is even worse. You have to check on who owns them and their connections.

In general terms its disinformation and that’s why you just come away with feeling they are nutters. That is the way it is designed. I did not watch the programme but I bet the did not include anybody from the following websites.

If you are really interested then you have to look at the internet but try and be selective in what you believe as it gets swamped with bs also as a way of creating a fog.

Try this one, Architects and Engineers,
http://www.ae911truth.org
or this one, pilots,
http://pilotsfor911truth.org

They did get them to speak to various people, including demolition experts and they even had 1 of the girls learning to fly a plane, (albeit a small one) in a short space of time.

They did get them to speak to various people, including demolition experts and they even had 1 of the girls learning to fly a plane, (albeit a small one) in a short space of time.

Hi Luby,

this guy was a well known demolition expert who spoke of WTC 7 demolition. Unfortunately he was killed in a car accident in July this year.
Danny Jowenko
http://www.infowars.com/expert-who-concluded-wtc-7-was-a-controlled-demolition-killed-in-car-accident/

Also PM to you

My favourite line was from the asian guy after meeting with the scientist

"There was a lot of pseudo science!"

Pseudo Science? That's all the conspiracy theorists have!:hihi:

it basically showed how thermite is abit rubbish, and cant cut through massive steal girders, and how youd need many, many man hours of prep to demolish the WTC.

the theory about how hard it is to hit a certain target as an amateur pilot was also blown out of the water.

what would the beeb get out of doing a 'hit piece' against CTs?

If you are really interested then you have to look at the internet but try and be selective in what you believe as it gets swamped with bs also as a way of creating a fog.

Oh the irony.

There is still a lot of corruptness going on.. Try watching Farenheit 9/11, a film with Michael Moore.

These 5 people from this decumentary were very paranoide, which is not healthy really.

Just watching this now... WOW!
I'm interested in what people think who have watched the program.

I liked the two who would not listen to reason, but instead resorted to having hissy fits and/or name calling. Interesting program, which I think would have benefitted from delving a little deeper to try and sway the opinions of the group.

The 2 bits that make me wonder are WTC 7 collapsing straight down, and the plane that hit the Pentagon managed to hit the ground floor without bouncing on the lawn first. That is some very accurate flying.

The 2 bits that make me wonder are WTC 7 collapsing straight down, and the plane that hit the Pentagon managed to hit the ground floor without bouncing on the lawn first. That is some very accurate flying.

And the plane went out of its way to hit the only empty part of the building.Not that a plane hit it at all.
If the building was being ungraded how come the work hasnt carried on?Its like the section was made for the JOB!

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911_pentagon_renovations.html

"The fire that swept through the building caused the greatest damage in an unrenovated section with no sprinkler system, heavy windows or steel reinforcements. But many of the offices there were empty in anticipation of the renovation.

Size 13, sometimes people are led up the garden path and in that way you cannot see the guys breaking in your front door. We concentrate on the wrong areas.
You actually do not need the buildings to decide on 9/11

I think your question ref the beeb was maybe made in response to mine so I will make a few comments.

Intelligence agencies have assets in mainstream media all over the world.

Lets imagine that this event was a false flag/inside job and you happened to get some blockbuster information to indicate. Do you really think you would advance your career or life by bringing this out. By the same token if you were ambitious and played along, what then?

Government do not like whistleblowers unless it works to their advantage.

During the Kennedy case there was a television celebrity/journalist called Dorothy Killgallen. She told friends that she had information that would "break the case wide open". Aware of what had happened to Bill Hunter and Jim Koethe (two reporters who had both been killed after making such a claim), Kilgallen handed her interview notes reference Jack Ruby, JD Tippit, David Ferrie to her friend Margaret Smith. A few weeks later Dorothy Kilgallen was dead. Two days later her friend Margaret Smith was dead and the no notes were ever found. These were not isolated cases there are more than 100 suspicious deaths.

Dan Rather on the other hand, a journalist who said the head of Kennedy went forward in response to the kill shot rose to become anchor of CBS news.

You remember scientist David Kelly, weapons of mass destruction weapons expert who we are led to believe committed suicide. He was a whistleblower who suggested Tony Blair did not tell the truth.

You remember the MI6 body in the bag code breaker from 1 year ago who died in a safe house in London. With all the cctv in London we cannot seem to find the perps. His sister was told to keep quiet about her last contact with him, maybe because it did not fit the official story and he was subject to character assassination in the press. Was he a whistleblower ?
http://shatasm.blogspot.com

Google Susan Lindauer, google Valerie Plame (watch the film Fair Game – Sean Penn), both were US intelligence agents. They have proper inside information. I don’t see the BBC doing an interview with either of these.

David Frost is a very famous journalist (ie Frost Nixon)
This is an interview with Benazir Bhutto (now deceased) in which at timeline 2.15min. she states ‘Ahmed Omar Sheikh – the man who murdered Osama Bin Laden’. Now this interview is some years ago and its an astonishing claim. Why didn’t Frost bat an eye. I mean any journalist who heard this would have gone WHAT--, Bin Laden Murdered ???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZiUjhsEAK4

Were the government laying the foundations to setting up the Osama lie here when a broadcaster sussed it out.
A Vietnam vet called William/Bill Cooper who had a small radio show and in a broadcast on the 28th June 2001, yes that’s June 2001, he more or less predicted something major was going to happen even mentioning that Bin Laden would be set up for it. By November the 5th 2001 Bill Cooper was dead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ERTsWzbGXg

Now, I don’t see mainstream journalists following up on these topics, do you?

None of which are related to 9/11 and none of which would pass the simplest evidence test.

But, seeing as you think that you have so much of what you would term 'evidence' about so many things where is your 'evidence' that 9/11 was perpetrated by government agencies?

And the plane went out of its way to hit the only empty part of the building.Not that a plane hit it at all.
If the building was being ungraded how come the work hasnt carried on?Its like the section was made for the JOB!

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911_pentagon_renovations.html

"The fire that swept through the building caused the greatest damage in an unrenovated section with no sprinkler system, heavy windows or steel reinforcements. But many of the offices there were empty in anticipation of the renovation.

Now call me stupid but wouldn't the renovations have been superseded by, er, rebuilding? Just a thought.

Only caught 10 mins, but I had to laugh at the bit with the guy who could manipulate recordings of voices to make it appear that people could say whatever he wanted.

The conspiracy nutters absolute glee was a sight to behold, as they all decided that this was how "they" managed to to fabricate the mobile phone conversations from the airplanes.

And then the disappointment, when the guy said "You think this is possible in real time? That's crazy. It took me 15 hours just to manipulate your voice to say "I am a cat""

:hihi:

None of which are related to 9/11 and none of which would pass the simplest evidence test.

But, seeing as you think that you have so much of what you would term 'evidence' about so many things where is your 'evidence' that 9/11 was perpetrated by government agencies?

Hmm … evidence

Well I could show you ………. But then I would have to kill you !

The evidence that you require, would that be similar to Weapons of Mass Destruction evidence that was used as a precursor to an invasion of Iraq when they sort of said afterwards, well really ….. we sort of didn’t really have any.

Or would it be evidence like classified documents that suggest the Bush/Cheney gang were discussing getting into Iraq before 9/11 meaning they knew then they would have to manufacture a reason in order to sell it to the American people.

My regards to you.

ill be honest nineteen66 - the above is hurting my noggin abit.

what i do think really happened? the US ****ed up big time security-wise.
they got lazy, and the terrorists got lucky.

i mean, come on, how they heckings could they plan something like that, really?

i mean, come on, how they heckings could they plan something like that, really?

Ah, but what you have to realise is that to the conspiracy theorists, they DID plan it. Only they stupidly failed to cover up the important details, so much that a bunch of student film-makers could spot the flaws and release a video about it all (and then edit the video when they are proven wrong, then edit again, and again....)

Yeah, because the US government had no qualms about mass slaughter of those in the Towers, yet seem afraid of 'silencing' a bunch of film-makers?!?

Then again, I am just one of the sheep who obviously believe whatever the mass media tells me, am I not? (Well, that's what the theorists say whenever I chip in on the discussion).

There are tons of websites out there to give both sides to the theories. Theorists will always link those that 'prove' their point (like the 'proof' that thermite was used - however that 'evidence' could be used to argue that alien heat rays were used as it is inconclusive), whilst they will dismiss any that counter those claims (even independent ones by skilled experts in the fields of construction, demolition, aviation, etc.) by saying that they are 'fake sites' put there by a government who are spreading misinformation.

That, is the problem with any conspiracy theories, be it 911, moon landings, JFK, Titanic, whatever. Anything that debunks the myth is declared as propaganda, and so discussion is pointless.

It was a terrible show, presented by a crap comedian. Why they chose him I don't know maybe Stacy Dooley was busy showing off her fashionable clothes in front of poor African kids.

The conspiracy theorists were a bunch of fruitcakes you could of told them that grass is green and most of them would of said it was blue. Most didn't want to listen and only 2 of them went into the process with an open mind. It really showed just how insecure and suspicious some people are more than anything else.

Gave me another reason not to tune in to BBC 3 on when I am bored.