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Tony Ruscoe
01-05-2003, 10:34
Has anyone else noticed that the city is being covered with posters, stickers, signs and graffiti all saying stuff like "Believe", "Believe the Truth", "The Truth Is Coming", "God is... [then loads of checkboxes]". Some of these are in very strange / original places too (like stapled to the tree supports in the gardens at the one:eleven / Wards Brewery develepment)!

What the hell is that all about? Is it just some religious freak who's lost the plot or is it the work of a much larger cult organisation? Or is it a new band called "Believe" who are just trying to get publicity. (Needless to say, there's plenty people out there - myself included - who thought "Gouranga" was a band who'd taken the time out to fly post every bridge in the country :lol:!)

Can anyone shed any light on this?

Cheers.

mikey
01-05-2003, 10:44
What was Gouranga?
I also thought it was a band

steelblade
01-05-2003, 10:50
gouranga be happy. I think thats what it means. I think it was either some bhuddists or monks that went around saying gouranga be happy. Maybe I dreamt it? lol

Ive also seen this believe stuff, no idea what it's all about.,

Tony Ruscoe
01-05-2003, 11:00
Just found this regarding Gouranga:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-21228,00.html

Some interesting ideas... but none are actually definitive.

Moon Maiden
01-05-2003, 18:09
There is a rumbling that lots of Christians believe that we have entered the rapture...not a song by Blonde....... the bible version. Then onto Armageddon.....again this is not a film with Bruce Willis.

Having stopped my search for The Truth, I'm now looking for a really good fantasy :D

Moon Maiden

back2basics
02-05-2003, 09:05
Gouranga is used by Hare Krishna, it's definatly them putting them up. I have seen it first hand, but also asked. There seems to be a big comunity in Leeds and they always greet you in the street with the word, one time i asked and they are indeed putting them up.

Tony Ruscoe
10-06-2003, 19:36
Aha... after more graffiti about this appearing, they now seem to have a website address too:

http://www.thetruthbygod.com

It seems "The Truth" is a book that you can order... maybe it's like the bible but full of true stuff ... ? :lol:

GrahamY
10-06-2003, 19:43
Wonder if anyone will be taking the 'American Circus' boards down? Somehow I doubt it.

Plasticman
11-06-2003, 15:33
Is this a cult?

Geoff
11-06-2003, 15:36
Saw a new sticker today, something about "Dawn of the yuppies" but nothing else. I guess the group who are putting up the stickers enjoy people like us asking - "why?" :lol:

Y2J
11-06-2003, 21:47
I have seen stickers that say God is real and The truth shall set you free.

:D 8) :twisted:

dead_poet
13-06-2003, 18:36
theres some dodgy david icke book called 'and the truth shall set you free'. steer clear say i!

ps: i'm not anti-religion, just anti david icke

pps: i don't think any of us want to get into a "does god exist" religion debate so let's leave that thought right here :lol:

God
14-06-2003, 12:22
Originally posted by "dead_poet"

theres some dodgy david icke book called 'and the truth shall set you free'. steer clear say i!

ps: i'm not anti-religion, just anti david icke

pps: i don't think any of us want to get into a "does god exist" religion debate so let's leave that thought right here :lol:
What's there to debate?

p.s
David Icke is right about the Lizards.

Neo
14-06-2003, 14:29
Originally posted by "steelblade"

gouranga be happy. I think thats what it means. I think it was either some bhuddists or monks that went around saying gouranga be happy. Maybe I dreamt it? lol

Ive also seen this believe stuff, no idea what it's all about.,

:lol: I got stopped in The Moor by someone and was asked if I could say "Gouranga" for them, and they gave me some crappy badge and a book in return.. Very weird.

dillan
07-07-2003, 11:09
its just one guy. He is an artist, im writing an article about him that might appear on tangents.co.uk soon. I'd like to know more about him from local people though, i met him by chance and lots of people seem to know him. he believes he's a messenger from God. I think some of his poems are beautiful but his hands shake when he talks. I thought it was a large church run group but its not. thanks for the correct website though, he told it to me wrong.

jenny
07-07-2003, 11:53
can i just say that these people that have enough time to go round writing these pointless little saying/quotes whatever they are. obviously have too much time on there hands ......
May i suggest employment to these folk?? :x
If it's not people that just "hang around" who is it???

Tony Ruscoe
07-07-2003, 12:08
Originally posted by jenny
can i just say that these people that have enough time to go round writing these pointless little saying/quotes whatever they are. obviously have too much time on there hands ......
May i suggest employment to these folk?? :x
If it's not people that just "hang around" who is it???

Writing the sayings and quotes isn't too bad - let them do that if it makes them happy. The bottom line is that it's graffiti though!!!

Just because he believes he's a messenger from God doesn't give him the right to graffiti all over the city!

(It's not just graffiti too - sometimes he's stapled cardboard to tree supports, doors, etc...)

costessey
07-07-2003, 20:46
he should be made archbishop

Phanerothyme
07-07-2003, 21:38
what! he's gay too?

BAZZO
10-07-2003, 20:27
Gouranga and lemons.... :P :banana:

Whelk
11-07-2003, 10:30
Originally posted by dillan
its just one guy. He is an artist, im writing an article about him that might appear on tangents.co.uk soon. I'd like to know more about him from local people though, i met him by chance and lots of people seem to know him. he believes he's a messenger from God. I think some of his poems are beautiful but his hands shake when he talks. I thought it was a large church run group but its not. thanks for the correct website though, he told it to me wrong.

I had a word with God this morning and he told me that this bloke wasn't his messenger.

richardwright
18-08-2003, 16:42
I AM THE WAY, I AM THE LIGHT

AVOID THE FACISTS AT TESCO'S AND EDS.

gwhiteh2
29-09-2003, 10:35
I've met the man who claims to be God. His name is Henry and he someone told me that he had a pizza place on Eccleshall road once. I do believe that he is very possibly on acid. But he is a really nice guy who has very strong morals and lives a simpple life. You can't miss him he is ofen found wondering around S10/11 he's slim with long black curly hair and he's always smiling. I've read his book and it actually makes a lot of sense so he is not just rambling rubbish(except for the part where he claims that taking acid should be compulsory. Although to be fair, without wanting to sound like a hippy, everyone i know who has taken it says that once you've done it you see the world the way it really is. So maybe he's not so wrong.

Phanerothyme
29-09-2003, 20:53
lysergic acid diethylamide has the very peculiar property of lifting your perceptive filters, so that you see the world as if for the first time - no preconceptions or value judgements in place. It does forever alter your outlook if used properly, and whilst making it compulsory is probably a bit authoritarian, there are many people who would probably benefit from a session.

It's a pity it is illegal, and especially as it is classed a Class A drug - deemed as dangerous as Heroin, Crack and Cocaine. Bizarre since it is actually an anti-addictive drug, i.e actively dissuades users from habitual use.

leo_76
02-10-2003, 17:01
for ur own knowledges...LSD is the most powerful hallucinogenic drug...know as far as i know....the fact is all u c or think about is unfortunately unreal.....It alters ones perception....vision,hearing,tasting...all ur senses...It is definitely a killer...despite of its POwerful head.....i think that someone took it and it seemed to him that he had superman power or something and he jumped off the 6th floor...and sure is dead now.
i thought i would state this....SO BEWARE DON¬T EVEN TRY TO TRY ACID>........IT IS PRETTY DANGEROUS:!: :!: :!:

modifiedmonk
28-12-2003, 16:48
he found me on boxing day, and gave me a copy of the book.. and we talked for ages about all sorts of stuff.... but the whole thing/book has nothing to do with religion or god... more of a wake up call to open yr eyes and see just how de-humanized, control and conditioned we ALL are..
he was a really nice guy

Grissom
28-12-2003, 19:16
Originally posted by Whelk
I had a word with God this morning and he told me that this bloke wasn't his messenger.

Indeed. His messenger is actually called Bill Gates. This guy uses MSN messenger version 6.1 to spread his word

Phanerothyme
29-12-2003, 19:48
Originally posted by leo_76
for ur own knowledges...LSD is the most powerful hallucinogenic drug...know as far as i know....the fact is all u c or think about is unfortunately unreal.....It alters ones perception....vision,hearing,tasting...all ur senses...It is definitely a killer...despite of its POwerful head.....i think that someone took it and it seemed to him that he had superman power or something and he jumped off the 6th floor...and sure is dead now.
i thought i would state this....SO BEWARE DON¬T EVEN TRY TO TRY ACID>........IT IS PRETTY DANGEROUS:!: :!: :!:

Look, instead of posting misinformation, why not post nothing at all?

It makes you look better and stops anyone getting the false impression that you know what you are talking about.

What I would try and steer clear of, is whatever you have been sniffing that makes your posts almost unintelligible.

LSD is an astoundingly safe drug.

venger
29-12-2003, 20:09
Originally posted by Phanerothyme
Look, instead of posting misinformation, why not post nothing at all?

It makes you look better and stops anyone getting the false impression that you know what you are talking about.

What I would try and steer clear of, is whatever you have been sniffing that makes your posts almost unintelligible.

LSD is an astoundingly safe drug.

Mental note `do not upset Phan`...

...astoundingly safe drug physically. There are no shortage of mental casualties..

I am sure you will agree.

Nicholarse
29-12-2003, 20:44
Good.

So who is this guy? What's his website address? I like the sound of him.

NM

RPG
29-12-2003, 21:33
Originally posted by Phanerothyme
LSD is an astoundingly safe drug.

Tell that to Syd Barrett and his family...

chalicefc3
29-12-2003, 23:18
Originally posted by Neo
:lol: I got stopped in The Moor by someone and was asked if I could say "Gouranga" for them, and they gave me some crappy badge and a book in return.. Very weird.


Yeah i think i must have been stopped by the same bloke - ****** me off cos i was late for an exam that day!!!

Tried to flog me a CD of music that i had no knowledge of - which kinda sounds like the shady bloke down i met, who is convinced that he purchased a 32" widescreen TV set for £50. ummmmm - anyone misplaced their TV????

Nicholarse
01-01-2004, 19:57
Originally posted by RPG
Tell that to Syd Barrett and his family...

That's hardly fair comment. LSD wasn't Syd's only poison. He's not the classic acid casualty that The Daily Mail would have you believe.

NM

bellis
01-01-2004, 20:02
yes lsd is totally safe
i suggest any of those misguided fools pays a visit to the ngh physc unit to put those safe facts to the test:confused:

RPG
01-01-2004, 20:03
Originally posted by Nicholarse
That's hardly fair comment. LSD wasn't Syd's only poison. He's not the classic acid casualty that The Daily Mail would have you believe.

NM

Funnily enough, it was. Well, it was LSD which got him into the state "he" is in today

And i dont read the Daily Mail, its a pile of crap as highlighted by the poor journolism and scaremongery (the brass eye debalical was the funniest)

Im an avid pink floyd fan (see avatar) i'll have you know

GourangaGirl
01-01-2004, 22:35
Gouranga does indeed mean 'be happy'.

I believe you are referring to The Gouranga Powered Band in some of your posts; I think they are fantastic! I'm currently listening to 'The Opulence Of The Absolute' album

Hare Krishnas (such as myself) go around getting people to say it, to spread a little happiness, and give people good Karma :)

If you want to learn more about Gouranga and the Hare Krishna religion, go to: http://www.ISKcon.com

GourangaGirl -x-

_Foo_
04-01-2004, 04:04
* It's a natural stimulent similar to ephidrine derived from a South American plant. All it does for me is to make me bad tempered.

Peter Brooke, Newmachar Scotland

* Aha, and of course that would have been the answer if the question had referred to Guarana. Apologies.

Peter Brooke, Newmachar Scotland


BWAHAHAHAAA.

**sniff** I digress.

I think the Gouranga monks that used to hang around in the city centre have moved on to pastures anew and people less moody than your average Sheffield citizen... I haven't seen em in at least 18 months.

I cherished that badge ;(

GourangaGirl
14-01-2004, 21:16
I actually found this forum by typing Gouranga into google, lol. I have been a Hare Krishna for 4 and a bit months now, and am really enjoying it :)

It's great fun getting people to say Gouranga - always makes me grin like a loony! :D

A few weeks ago, i was in Stevenage giving out badges to anyone who would say 'Gouranga!' and i gave out about 30 in half an hour or so!

I have a badge that says 'Shout GOURANGA or else' hehe, i love it.

Anyway, must dash

GOURANGA HEY!

hudu
14-01-2004, 22:12
I have his little book.

As the true messiah I figured it would be interesting reading.

It is.

Tell me where to find him and I will shake his shaking hand.

Top lad........

Carmine
14-01-2004, 22:57
I wonder if this is the same bloke that I once saw writing similar slogans in chalk on the paving stones outside the cathedral? He seems to match the physical description and looked like quite an eccentric character to me. He was kicking up a fuss at the time and the police had been called, it transpired that he was confused as to why a man (whom I presume was the Dean) wanted him to stop defacing the pavement.

Aside from the fact that he sounds like a unique thinker, I have to say that if this is the same guy (AND I STRESS IF THIS IS!) then he needs to learn a little respect for the freedom of self-determination that all human beings have a right to. While scrawling christian phrases on the floor might seem innocent, I feel that as a non-christian I have a right to object in the same way as I have the right to close the door to a person proseltysing on by doorstep.

Methinks that if he was a representative of the Church of Satan, then there would be more of a fuss.

hudu
14-01-2004, 23:20
I was deleted?

Do you know who I am?

;)

Phanerothyme
14-01-2004, 23:51
Originally posted by RPG
Funnily enough, it was. Well, it was LSD which got him into the state "he" is in today

And i dont read the Daily Mail, its a pile of crap as highlighted by the poor journolism and scaremongery (the brass eye debalical was the funniest)

Im an avid pink floyd fan (see avatar) i'll have you know

Syd was struggling with depression and anxiety before he even took LSD. There is no question that the sheer quantity and frequency of his LSD use precipitated a mental breakdown, but to pin its cause completely on LSD is to ignore the whole picture.

No one in their right mind takes that (astonishingly large) number of doses as Syd did. Syd was not in his right mind, and exacerbated the condition.

If Syd had taken as many doses (cups) of coffee as he did 'trips', he would have died. If he'd had as many glasses of wine as trips, he'd be dead. And Paracetamol, and ecstasy, and cocaine, and heroin etc.

In terms of the amount it takes to kill you, LSD is about 5000 times safer than alcohol.

If you are an aggressive, argumentative person, you should watch your alcohol consumption very carefully. Similarly, if you are anxious, stressed, depressed, manic, or otherwise unbalanced, LSD is unlikely to be very helpful.

But approached in a positive and grounded way, LSD is truly a modern wonder.

With only one positively identified fatality (a prisoner injected with a huge dose by scientific researchers) and a handful of oft repeated urban myths...

...it's astonishingly safe, and that Syd Barrett is alive (and by all accounts quite well) is a testament to this fact.

It certainly is not risk free. But then what is?

hudu
15-01-2004, 00:15
Originally posted by Phanerothyme
But approached in a positive and grounded way, LSD is truly a modern wonder.


It certainly is not risk free. But then what is?

Well said Phano (all of it - I paraquote you), Not that I would know what the hell you were harping on about, m'lud.

Back to the case in point....

The lads book begins....

"Approach without judging

read without judging

understand without judging"

Don't judge him everyone...he ain't no christian.

(mind u - he's no messiah - as i bagsyed it a few posts back:thumbsup: )

qazitory
15-01-2004, 16:55
Originally posted by Phanerothyme
Syd was struggling with depression and anxiety before he even took LSD. There is no question that the sheer quantity and frequency of his LSD use precipitated a mental breakdown, but to pin its cause completely on LSD is to ignore the whole picture.

No one in their right mind takes that (astonishingly large) number of doses as Syd did. Syd was not in his right mind, and exacerbated the condition.

If Syd had taken as many doses (cups) of coffee as he did 'trips', he would have died. If he'd had as many glasses of wine as trips, he'd be dead. And Paracetamol, and ecstasy, and cocaine, and heroin etc.

In terms of the amount it takes to kill you, LSD is about 5000 times safer than alcohol.

If you are an aggressive, argumentative person, you should watch your alcohol consumption very carefully. Similarly, if you are anxious, stressed, depressed, manic, or otherwise unbalanced, LSD is unlikely to be very helpful.

But approached in a positive and grounded way, LSD is truly a modern wonder.

With only one positively identified fatality (a prisoner injected with a huge dose by scientific researchers) and a handful of oft repeated urban myths...

...it's astonishingly safe, and that Syd Barrett is alive (and by all accounts quite well) is a testament to this fact.

It certainly is not risk free. But then what is?

I think we are getting a little off the subject now! I don't think anyone should be promoting drug use on here!!

GourangaGirl
14-03-2004, 11:57
Originally posted by BAZZO
Gouranga and lemons.... :P :banana:

Well done... but why the lemons??? Am liking the dancing banana btw :D

GOURANGA HEY!

What is Gouranga all about?: http://www.krishna.com/newsite/main.php?id=10

http://www.ISKcon.com

Plain Talker
14-03-2004, 12:27
I have no problem with the chalk drawings refered to in the OP.

They are chalk, they are harmless, they will wash away. (and yes I have seen the paper versions, flyposted... not so keen on them)

I do have problems with the spray-painted graffiti (not associated with this chap in the op) that we see in the underpasses and on walls all around the city, which doesn't wash away easily and looks an eyesore.

it isn't anything obscene, or subversive... it's just a bloke encouraging us to wake up an aspect of our spirituality (IMHO).

A bit of chalk on a wall is not hurting anything.

Man, I remember chalking hopscotch squares/numbers on the paving stones outside our yard as a kid, and my next door neighbours' sons chalking cricket stump-marks against the gable wall of the houses.

Just my two penn'orth.

PT

GourangaGirl
11-04-2004, 21:42
Hehe, this weekend just gone, i was out with a few friends putting up some Gouranga posters... not on bridges mind, lol... methinks its difficult hanging over the side to paste them up. But anyways, it ISNT pointless, and it IS part of my religion. So yeah... freedom of speech and all that! As for the Gouranga guys in the streets that you bump into, please show them some respect and common courtesy... believe me, my mind acts up enough without being sworn at/shouted at/ just plain ignored. We don't want to take up hours of your time. Besides... if you guys were to say Gouranga as soon as we asked you the first time, then we wouldnt pester you any longer, and you'd waste less time! Just something for you to think about there.

Hannah-x-

GOURANGA!

http://groups.msn.com/WhatisGOURANGA <--- my new MSN Group, a work in progress, but getting there all the same. I would appreciate some feedback about Gouranga on the messageboard.

Andy
11-04-2004, 21:50
Originally posted by GourangaGirl
Hehe, this weekend just gone, i was out with a few friends putting up some Gouranga posters..

Great, so more of my council tax has to be wasted cleaning up after you?

I hope the police catch you next time you go out illegally flyposting (or did you have permission?).

soggy2
12-04-2004, 10:16
I have come across henry in my line of work..would just like to let you all know.. he isnt a messenger from god, although he does hear voices. taking his medication would help this.
and if you do engage him in coversation dont wind him up too much he has a tendency to get a little would up at times and can become aggitated .voice hearers can be a risk to the public . we can blame the goverments care in the community for this . henry should be looked after by the correct care staff.. lets just hope his voices dont tell him to do anything daft

foxy27
12-04-2004, 22:41
Its the bible bashers invading us....

jackthedog
13-04-2004, 11:09
Originally posted by GourangaGirl
As for the Gouranga guys in the streets that you bump into, please show them some respect and common courtesy... believe me, my mind acts up enough without being sworn at/shouted at/ just plain ignored. We don't want to take up hours of your time. Besides... if you guys were to say Gouranga as soon as we asked you the first time, then we wouldnt pester you any longer, and you'd waste less time! Just something for you to think about there.


I've got an idea. Dont like being sworn at/shouted at/ just plain ignored?

Why not leave us alone?

Rusted Root
13-04-2004, 12:07
I've got an idea. Dont like being sworn at/shouted at/ just plain ignored?

Why not leave us alone?


Have to say I agree with that.

Hmm this thread was started ages ago (man some of my posts are still on it from ages ago too!!) and the armageddon still hasn't come yet. ;)

Also I haven't seen those wierd graffiti things quite so often now ...