Was walking along one of the roads of Division street saturday night wearing a Northampton town shirt when i was shouted at from some youths they cornered me and a friend and kept calling me gay etc and that they were gonna beat me up. In the end it was al sorted out without any fighting but has anyone else experienced it.

I know wearing a football shirt was foolish but surely i should be able to wear n e thing i want.

Is this a common problem in the city ?

not wanting to condone events like this wearing it on a saturday is a bit asking for it:loopy:

I dont c why its not as if the two teams had just played (they aint played for years) and its not as if theres a rivalry between the two teams.

its not just a sheffield thing im sure i wouldnt dream about walking around town in a club shirt oh im a owls fan btw ..........its jus the way it is these days im sure if it was a monday or a thursday you wouldnt have had any hassle at all.....just pick the day you wear your shirt:thumbsup:

Its pretty sad when you can't even wear a football shirt without fearing yobs - Northampton aren't even in the same division as Utd or Wed

i no but its the way things are for some reason:loopy:

I doubt it had anything to do with the football shirt.. Just at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Why does this stuff never happen to me in town? Ever..

Must be how you put yourself across..

Gaz

Yeah Gaz. If everyone was as tough and macho as your good self, everyone would be safe.

Apart from homosexuals and students....

Originally posted by Jim
Yeah Gaz. If everyone was as tough and macho as your good self, everyone would be safe.


Where in my post did I say I was "tough and macho"?

:roll:

proper football lads wouldn't dream of attacking/bullying anyone in a football shirt its just not done,you obviously came across some idiots that had probably got their burb cap for 1.99 from castle market and had a couple of netto cans of lager..if this should happen again just shout BOO! at the top of your voice and this will bring the incident to a close...........:)

It's true what Kirky says.

As a general rule of thumb they don't go for attacking 'shirty's' they can recognise fellow 'boys' and they arrange to meet and fight.

However you do get some new recruits trying to make a name for themselves by attacking or intimidating 'shirty's'.

It's still a sad state of affairs IMHO.

Why does this stuff never happen to me in town? Ever..

Unless you have Super Human powers, I can only assume that you are too tough and macho to be bothered by these hooligans. I refer also to your previous posts regarding the students at Town Hall.

Originally posted by Jim
Unless you have Super Human powers, I can only assume that you are too tough and macho to be bothered by these hooligans. I refer also to your previous posts regarding the students at Town Hall.

1- I do indeed have superhuman powers, but don't tell anyone or my secret will become public and I'll have to move onto the next planet in search of burberry covered 12 year olds.
2- It is a fact it has never happened to me, there must be some reason behind that- right?
3- Give the ar$eyness a rest.. Unless of course I'm ar$ey to you, but I'd never do that, would I?

GazB - don't worry about it - I got the same crap when I said something similar - obviously some people on here know our lives better than ourselves. It is about the way you put yourself across, if you are confident and sure of yourself then you'll not (or very rarely) get into this sort of trouble - it's got sod all to do with being macho.

i doubt it was even the shirt that sparked this off, i never wear footie shirts and i some times get pushed about. its simply the fact that they need to make themselfs feel hard.. but what they do is pathetic. i mean there are always more of them and they always choose some1 who dont look like a fighter

Originally posted by fnkysknky
GazB - don't worry about it - I got the same crap when I said something similar - obviously some people on here know our lives better than ourselves. It is about the way you put yourself across, if you are confident and sure of yourself then you'll not (or very rarely) get into this sort of trouble - it's got sod all to do with being macho.

:thumbsup: Nice one! That's exactly what I mean, it all depends how you put yourself across etc. People that have confidence and that don't scare easily won't be bothered half as much as people that aren't/do.

Originally posted by Jim
Apart from homosexuals and students....
It doesn't happen to me either. I'm a student just to clarify.

I get much less hassle since I shaved my head. avoiding idiots is all about appearance, feigning confidence and staying away from potential trouble spots. A good trick when you're walkng past a group of lads is to scowl like you've got a major attitude problem and they'll leave you alone.

Gilly - Wrong place, wrong time I reckon.

If some kid in glasses, or a very large woman, or maybe a Sikh in a turban had gone past these objects they'd probably have shouted, "Four eyes!", "Lard arse!" or, "Hope yer 'ead gets berra!"

One things for sure though, if a 20 stone Sikh in glasses had walked past they wouldn't have dared mutter a word.

I think they're a bit like the dog that chases the motorbike. As soon as the bike stops moving away, the dog's off like a shot with its tail between its legs.

hmmm, i didnt really want to have to shave my head and scowel at any1 in burberry, but if it works what the hey, where is my razor?

Originally posted by Funky Dave
I get much less hassle since I shaved my head. avoiding idiots is all about appearance, feigning confidence and staying away from potential trouble spots. A good trick when you're walkng past a group of lads is to scowl like you've got a major attitude problem and they'll leave you alone.

Shouldn't have to be that way though should it?

Hi guys, just testing my picture, do agree with you all though, I'm 19 have suffered with **** from these hooligans since being about 13. As most of you wish in here, it would be good if we could just lock them all up.

Originally posted by dinp
Shouldn't have to be that way though should it?

I totally agree, Idiots seem to have this weird sixth sense about people who look vulnerable and they then pick on them. You just have be blunt with them and tell them where to get off.

I.e. Went to a take away the other day just to get cheese burger, some guy, in about his 30's approached me and said.

"rety mate, give us a lift home"

I responded quite abruptly and sarcastically "errrrm NO" concluding with "sorry mate, I'm a bit busy at the mo, places to go, people to see" just to simply avoid the possibility of being stabbed.

Yes its a **** world we live in, and I personally wish I could move to the moon.

But, as I've read on this topic and I totally agree with it, it is all down do the upbringing, as the parents usually seem to be from the same sort of background.

On analysing this, it seems to be when all the coal mines etc. were shut down by the government (I think, don't forget I'm only 19) people were out of work and for some reason it created an underclass of people stealing etc. just to make ends meet. We are now suffering the consequences of what our government created.

If anybody would like me to expand on this and give reasons, I would be happy to, As long as my keyboard holds out.

If you see someone wearing any Burberry pattern then there may be trouble.

It's the most common pattern ever now and sorry if you have the real thing but it's sad.

Next time you are walking around town, look out for burberry, hey play a game see how much burberry you can see in 5 min's. I bet 1 in 5 people on a Saturday will have some kind of burberry on, Fake or Real both the same apart from one being £0.99 and the other being £99.

Must get embarrassing turning up in a pub or somewhere where two people have the same cap, shirt, handbag, coat, jeans, shorts, shoes, the list goes on ....

Fake or Real both the same apart from one being £0.99 and the other being £99

:D I remember a time when it was classed as old women's gear and nobody would be caught dead wearing it. (Well.........that's even if we could have afforded it).

How times change.

Originally posted by jjrobbins
If you see someone wearing any Burberry pattern then there may be trouble.

It's the most common pattern ever now and sorry if you have the real thing but it's sad.

Not true. I have a Burberry shirt that I bought from Cecil Gee in Meadowhall that cost me £80. It's black with small blue Burberry logo's printed on it. Never seen anyone else with it on :thumbsup:

Originally posted by MissEllie
:D I remember a time when it was classed as old women's gear and nobody would be caught dead wearing it. (Well.........that's even if we could have afforded it).

How times change.

actually it used to be part of the 'soccer casuals' scene in the 80's along with aquascutum but again was used to identify footie hooligans - i should know i was one of the twa*s. I hate the burberry clad mentality of these idiots just as much as i regret now the anti-social thug i used to be

http://www.glasgowsurvival.co.uk/pictures/burbMobile.jpg

Originally posted by Whelk
http://www.glasgowsurvival.co.uk/pictures/burbMobile.jpg

oh dear god...that is the sadest excuse for a car i have ever seen....

:loopy:

dear God! now I have seen it all. :shocked:

That thud you just heard was my jaw hitting the floor....

PT

hmm something to think about...if every1 shaved theirs heads, wore burberry and scoweled at each other...what would the origional hooligans do?

in response to last comment - im sure they would come up with a new method of anarchy. they'd probably go pull up expensive plants out of people's gardens or burn out more dustbins. Hooligans will always exist in life - for me, i see it as a marker for how good or bad my life is. By my attitude - i think im about as distant from being a hooligan as possible. there's definitely something spasticated about gaining pleasure from causing ABH, GBH on someone else.

DO SOMETHING NICE AND SEE IT RECIPROCATED IN KIND!!!

Secondly- completely agree with the comments made by jjrobbins. Burberry is bad at the best of times - but i reckon i've made myself so ill through being angry at the brand and how it is promoted - i've given up. I accept that some people genuinely wear it as a statement of fashion - legitimate versions are acceptable. But you cannot justify 'alwitte darlinnnnn' knock off brands of it down markets etc.
Makes a mockery out of a once-fashionable brand and i dont warm to kids wearing it in order to look up to their thug peers.

Note to Hooligans; please do not move on to Ted Baker. it is a nice brand and hasnt done owt to promote violence. PS there's no fake ted baker kicking about as Bed Taker doesnt count!!!

http://www.glasgowsurvival.co.uk/visitor/burbned.jpg

a picture of sartorial elegance

Originally posted by Whelk
http://www.glasgowsurvival.co.uk/visitor/burbned.jpg

a picture of sartorial elegance
You can't buy class!

Originally posted by Whelk
http://www.glasgowsurvival.co.uk/visitor/burbned.jpg

a picture of sartorial elegance

oh dear god is that evil...i swear in the next nightmare on elm street fredie will b wearing that...and his weapon wil be a burberry cap with razor edges.:loopy:

Originally posted by chalicefc3
Note to Hooligans; please do not move on to Ted Baker. it is a nice brand and hasnt done owt to promote violence. PS there's no fake ted baker kicking about as Bed Taker doesnt count!!!

There's plenty of fake Ted Baker stuff about along with every other fashionable (and unfashionable for that matter) make.

Someone answer me, 'cos I've never known...

...why Burberry?


It seems like a really strange choice of pattern for anyone to be seen in. How did brown with blue and white checks suddenly become 'fashionable'?

Build some stocks in burberry colours and put the hooligans in them so they feel at home and then lob soft fruit at them( taking it out of the can first is optional) .
bulldog D: Stocks Manufacturer and Canned Goods Ballistic Expert

Burberry Caps=BBC

I wouldn't wear a football shirt in town I've seen what happens to some of the unlucky ones.

Originally posted by J-Blaze
Burberry Caps=BBC

I wouldn't wear a football shirt in town I've seen what happens to some of the unlucky ones.

yeah - i've seen some of them too...unlucky sods seem to jump on the tram and get off around leppings lane at 2.30pm on a saturday afternoon. sorry state of affairs. they'll be coming home with tears aplenty all over again!!!

JOKE (not even a local but SUFC closer than SWFC)

Originally posted by Gilly
Was walking along one of the roads of Division street saturday night wearing a Northampton town shirt when i was shouted at from some youths they cornered me and a friend and kept calling me gay etc and that they were gonna beat me up. In the end it was al sorted out without any fighting but has anyone else experienced it.

I know wearing a football shirt was foolish but surely i should be able to wear n e thing i want.

Is this a common problem in the city ?

The problem is a nationwide one: too few prisons and too few people in them. Young men who spoil town centres for others should be locked up every weekend for a good long time. A bit of penal servitude won't do them any harm at all.

Originally posted by jjrobbins
If you see someone wearing any Burberry pattern then there may be trouble.

It's the most common pattern ever now and sorry if you have the real thing but it's sad.

Next time you are walking around town, look out for burberry, hey play a game see how much burberry you can see in 5 min's. I bet 1 in 5 people on a Saturday will have some kind of burberry on, Fake or Real both the same apart from one being £0.99 and the other being £99.

Must get embarrassing turning up in a pub or somewhere where two people have the same cap, shirt, handbag, coat, jeans, shorts, shoes, the list goes on ....

I was in westways on sat night and the bouncers stopped two guys on the door.I have to say they didnt look like trouble causers,no shaved heads(not that im saying all people with shaved heads cause grief)We were close to the door and the reason they were stopped was that one of the lads had a very small amount of burberry check on the lapels of an otherwise all navy blue smart looking jumper.He made him turn the jumper inside out to see the tag,i presume to see if it was authentic and then after some lengthy conversation they were let in.i couldnt understand why.I have an eleven yr old son who is well into fashion and to be honest loves burberry,better not let him wear it out of the house eh??????

Originally posted by jenhoppy
I was in westways on sat night and the bouncers stopped two guys on the door.I have to say they didnt look like trouble causers,no shaved heads(not that im saying all people with shaved heads cause grief)We were close to the door and the reason they were stopped was that one of the lads had a very small amount of burberry check on the lapels of an otherwise all navy blue smart looking jumper.He made him turn the jumper inside out to see the tag,i presume to see if it was authentic and then after some lengthy conversation they were let in.i couldnt understand why.I have an eleven yr old son who is well into fashion and to be honest loves burberry,better not let him wear it out of the house eh??????
Perhaps he was asking where he got it from as he wanted one!

DB, it wasn't you was it? You're not turning into a Chav are you?

Just when you thought big spoilers and fat exhausts made the car and driver look stoopid........

got to admit i did probably still do (in the back of a draw somewhere) owned a burberry scarf i think on women things like bags and scarfs and nice not OTT tops (REAL) look nice not all worn together obviusly its the cheap crap on thorsby market that ruins the look. Not to mention all the burberry hats around hillsbrough on alternate sat afternoons!!!

if ya gunna wear burberry on a night out in town ya should expect a slap or some bother....not sayin ya should like but ya should all no by now that anybody wearing burberry , aquascutum , stone island , armani , paul n shark n even lacoste in some cases ya goin to be associated with being a hoolie...its just the way it is now....but at the end of the day ya could be wearin a suit n tie or even a hi-tec tracksuit n gola trainers n still can expect a slap or some bother from a certain minority frm s2

SheffladEBRA - are you trying to imply that its just the BBC that go around slapping innocent people? (and i'm not biased due to my footy allegiance by the way). A mate of mine has been punched to the floor by people purporting to be Sheff Wed hoolies (OCS), who first very kindly asked him whether he "was a bertie", but before he could reply he was punched.

Plus no-one should go out expecting to be punched whatever they're wearing, burberry or not. i know some lads from the BBC (your 'minority from S2') and not one of them would slap someone purely for wearing burberry (ok so i can't vouch for everyone claiming to be in the BBC). You are talking crap. Both hooligan elements of the clubs in Sheffield are as guilty as each other, and very often its not the main lads doing it, its little jumped up kids trying to act hard who don't know jack.

talkin crap am i???

i no people shunt go out expectin to get a beatin just because of what there wearin but am just sayin thats the way it is nowadays for wearin ya burberry clobber etc....that sort of stuff seems to associate ya with hoolies.

ya say that bbc dont go around hitting anyone??? werve ya been these days??? its a well known FACT this happens

i'm not going to get into a slanging match, but if you re-read my post i don't specifically say that the BBC don't, merely state that those i know don't, and that:

"Both hooligan elements of the clubs in Sheffield are as guilty as each other".

My point was that you were implying that it was solely the BBC that go around hitting innocent people, which simply isn't the case, its both sets of hoolies.

Although I do think a point you're trying to make about why those who sport 'hoolie' clothing do so. I often wonder why people who don't want any bother try to emulate the fashions of those that do get involved (wearing stuff like S.I, burb, Aquascrotum). There are plenty of other fashionable designer labels that do not have the connotations of hooliganism.
Thats it, i'm not saying anymore.

Originally posted by J-Blaze
Burberry Caps=BBC

I wouldn't wear a football shirt in town I've seen what happens to some of the unlucky ones.

Mr PT has asked that I point something out...

Firstly, the "genuine" hooligan elements *from whatever club*, do not tend to go for those wearing "colours" no matter which club they support. They usually leave colour-wearers alone as they are not recognised as the "fighters", the colours- wearer tend to be the ordinary, joe-in-the-street supporters.

The hoolies recognise other"Hoolies" by sight/personally, and the "rumbles" are usually pre-arranged by mobile etc.

Now, as passionate as I am about my particular team, I do not condone the hooligan elements (whichever team they are from)

I and my other-half do not do not claim that the OCS are the only "hoolie" element in sheffield.

And burberry does not = BBC. nor OCS, nor the junior faction of the OCS, the ITI.

it's usually some joyriding boy-racer little tu rd that wears burberry and causes havoc.

Mr PT is an SUFC supporter, and, four days out of seven, in the week, he wears his United footie colours (an away-shirt) for his pool team games. And, in his local pub there are both the BBC and OCS (the REAL BBC and OCS, that is) and he has had no trouble whatsoever from either faction.

And, neither has our brother in law, who will wear his Wednesday colours to the pool games. Both factions realise that the hub, and Broth-in law do not belong to either of the hoolie factions, and are left in peace.

There's a bit of joshing, and light-hearted banter exchanged, but it is inevitably good-natured ribbing. (and it's not just "tolerance" because we are a mixed- faith family)

As someone had mentioned previously, it's the T!t-head, wannabees who cause the bother involving attacks on the ordinary supporter. Hoolies usually go for the hoolies in the opposing team.

PT

good post that "mi ol mucker"

agree with last bit n;all, all t!ts are the ones who clip shirters...tryin to get a name for there selfs which doesn,t go down to well with the "proper" lads as they dont like seein any shirters or normal fans gettin pushed about as seen on a few occasions at wednesday away matches....there the sort that will "give" it, but wont "take" it.these t!ts who dish it out are the ones who look as tho they have borrowed linfords trainers when it looks as tho ya goin to be on the recievin end.
they are the ones that are all kitted out in ya burberrys , s.i etc, on a friday n saturday night tryin to look all hard all in same gear when at end of the day they just look like a set of plonkers.

like you said....i go in a boozer which has both ocs & bbc lads in....n a few shirters will have a drink with the so called lads....brings banter in to a night out the which is all good....but the set of lads who have just been drinkin together in week will be worst of enemys over weekend......STRANGE
ebra

I have worn my leeds attire around town many a time with nothing more than a few dirty looks (hold the jokes).

i'm shaven headed,6 foot and 17 1/2 stone .........i've never had any trouble !!

seriously though........having been involved in the 'casual scene' many years ago (i've grown up since then).......it was never the 'done' thing to pick on anybody in their teams shirts.any lad that stepped out of line and did have a go at a 'scarfer' would be dealt with accordingly within his own group.

i worked on doors around town for quite a few years,and got to know many of the 'well known faces' both bbc/ocs lads who did have a certain code of conduct.....but like someone say's in a post above.........the young lads are trying to make a name for themselves.
i don't even bother with town now at the weekends,i prefer to keep local,at least you know everyone !!!!!

Regularly used to walk round Manchester in Sheff Wednesday shirts to **** the Mancs off.
Good luck John (Sheridan). Oldham v Blackpool.

I get much less hassle since I shaved my head. avoiding idiots is all about appearance, feigning confidence and staying away from potential trouble spots. A good trick when you're walkng past a group of lads is to scowl like you've got a major attitude problem and they'll leave you alone.

me too I have shaved my head and have had no hassle for a while. On the last occassions I was asked to hand over my wallet by a druggie at the back of the old mulberry, but I just punched him and split his nose all over his face, a good punch as well, my hand hurt for a couple of days