not been in sheffield since 1969 ,anybody know what happend to ray morgan and denis hobson local hardmen of the sixtys +do they still run blackpudding bending courses at daveys?

Didn't Dennis Hobson get banned from Sheffield? If so, the Sheffield forum is hardly place to discuss it! :rolleyes:

is this the same hobson family who one of want to put money into sheffield wednesdy?

Isnt Hobson the boxing promoter and "entrepreneur"

Yes, but I think the initial post may be relating to his dad.

Yes I think so too, I remember the names, from when I was a kid around Heeley

I used to deliver papers to Dennis Hobson's house when he lived on March street (off Tinsley Park road ) and one christmas gave me a tip of "thirty bob" ( one pound fifty in todays money )
which was more than my weekly paper money Dennis is one of sheffields few true gentlemen

I think he has a boxing gym up darnal.

I'd be interested to know more about the Morgan character. I would have been 8 in 1969, so he was before my time. However, I have heard tales of the man's lethal prowess with the "nut" [head- butting]. I was told that he was very stocky, of medium height and absolutely fearless. If Deadgobby, or anyone else has some background details, I would be pleased. I was also told that Morgan once took on a huge opponent, and virtually climbed up the guy to deliver the fatal blow. Which area was he from? Did he work in the market?

I heard Dennis had gone to live in Skegness, hav'nt seen Ray Morgan since the Talbot closed.

dennis hobson owned a scrap yard on manor lane, more recently was the landlord of the frecheville hotel i knew dennis from the pubs my father used to run, I also knew ray morgan very well his eldest son mick used to have the mediteranean restaurant on sharowvale road hes still a chef in the restaurant game but not sure where now his younger son raymond joined the navy,
ray lived for quite a while on erskine road arbourthorne ( just round the corner from one of his sparring partners another character gerald scarface mullen ) he now lives in linconshire where he took a pub , but i dont believe he has it now ,
I`ve seen many so called big hitters pay the price for underestimating both of these blokes but to me they were always spot on I never saw either man start a fight only finish it


ps ray morgan now lives on a boat in linconshire

Holberry,
Thanks for the interesting post there. I have heard so much, over the years, about these characters. I wonder if they realise just how much a part of Sheffield folklore they have become?

I was working on a Gleesons site at Greenhill back in the 50's, and Denis was working with the roofers there. In those days they carried the tiles up to the roof balanced on their heads, on a 'ring'. He was the best I've ever seen, 25 to 30 tiles, no problem, neck like a bull. And he could keep going. I tried it on with his sister once, trying to get her drunk, somebody whispered in my ear who she was, so I gave up on the idea.

Sounds like a wise move, Tex!

Still on the subject of Sheffield 'hardmen', who remembers 'Jiggers'. Everytime I'd see this kid he was rolling around the dance floor punching and cursing like nobody's business. He always seemed to dress smart but always wore a 'choker', a kind of kerchief favored by 'barrerlads'. He always frequented the dances at Glossop Road Baths. And what about Mick Cowan. If I remember right he was rated in 'Boxing News' at one time.

Didn't Dennis Hobson get banned from Sheffield? If so, the Sheffield forum is hardly place to discuss it! :rolleyes:
dennis Hobson snr. now runs a pub at frechville Ray Morgan lives at Short Ferry just outside Lincoln

I heard Dennis had gone to live in Skegness, hav'nt seen Ray Morgan since the Talbot closed.

Ray Morgan is my mates uncle he now lives at Short Ferry nr. Lincoln and still a gentleman.

Still on the subject of Sheffield 'hardmen', who remembers 'Jiggers'. Everytime I'd see this kid he was rolling around the dance floor punching and cursing like nobody's business. He always seemed to dress smart but always wore a 'choker', a kind of kerchief favored by 'barrerlads'. He always frequented the dances at Glossop Road Baths. And what about Mick Cowan. If I remember right he was rated in 'Boxing News' at one time.

Jiggers still dresses like that, he visits his mate near me.

its not big and its not clever :P

Does anyone remember Iaian Northedge in the eighties? Huge S.O.B

Do you remember Lol Knight who liked to have a go at the law around about the 50s & 60s.

Jiggers still dresses like that, he visits his mate near me.Good to know he still maintains his standards.

Do you remember Lol Knight who liked to have a go at the law around about the 50s & 60s.

Yes I remember hearing of his reputation, don't think I ever saw him though.
He lived on Thornborough Rd near my cousins.
He had a brother who was really quiet think his name was Alan.
hazel

Yes hazel Lols brother was called Alan, and his sisters name is Carole.

hi I remember lol night and his son david night also ray morgan, I was married to one of the keenans also know for there fighting but no where near on the scale of them above mention. One of my meetings of lol night & ray was 1 cold night around 1983/84 my hubby & me was walking up heelly green going towards wagon & horses pub as we almost reached corner of the pub the door flung open shortly followed by lol night landing on his arse. He immediately got up charged back in the pub after a min another fella came tumbling out of pub on his arse yep it was ray, followed by lol then they carried on fighting. All the pub came out to watch it was like king kong against godzilla both men very very fit big in bulk and new how to throw punches. Some smaller fights started and before you knew it every one was fighting include my hubby. In all the commotion I ended up beening knocked unconscious by one of lols punches. Hence I spent the night in hospital but I also end up with a broken toe?, Lol did say sorry a few weeks later but he was not wearing his teeth so was impossible to understand him, GO on feel me leg las he used to say there made of steel, and by heck there was bloody hard.
His son was very handsome blonde don’t remember him being a fighter but heard he died about 23 years or so go, he went to work away building I think got it to fight one night this bloke hit him once with a base ball/ or pick axe handle and that was it dead. My ex told me that lol had about 8 kids all over Sheffield don’t know how true that is.
Another night we was in the olive grove pub bottom of east bank road. There was about 30 in there & in walks lol night and out walk,s about 10 customers leaving there drinks behind, Lol was demanding a drink and had manged to lift the bar up from some of its bolts buy sheer force pushing the rest bar upaward, but the bar staff had gone into hiding landlord had ran upstairs. Lol went to the gents and trashed some of it, while another 10 customers legged it. leaving me my hubby & about 4 other mates. When he came back out he jumped over bar helped his self to a drink and poured us all one he even remembered most of our names, had a few packets of fags and a cigar. With in about 10 mins 8 police cars arrived and a black van there was around 15 police men. After one hell of a battle there managed to get him in a car but he punched out the sun roof stood up wearing a coppers hat while puffing on a cigar. Half the police had some sort of injury if not there uniforms wear torn or missing some sat trying to get there breath back. I heard lol had died few years ago he be about 70ish.But he always looked really old to me.

Am pretty sure it was Ray morgan that scared the **** out of me I think it was the scares on his face and that stare he gave. But in a very rough way he was strangely attractive. But I was only 17/20 at the time which would have been around 1980 -1986, He was married or lived with one of my ex hubby BEING David Keenan, mates Paul & mick Marshall sister, don’t recall her name but she was a stunning short haired blonde, We went drinking with them a now and again but he still scared me, We spent one new years eve at his flat when he lived on Norfolk park I can just about remember him trying to hang some poor bloke one over the balcony by his feet we was about 10 floors up. We was all screaming at him the lad was ok but he was pretty shock up like we was. One hung from ray was awful he would crush you and this was a friendly hug I also recall he was always trying to sell gold.
A fews years back I was talking to my dad about him and he told me a funny story, my dad used to run building sites and this massive hard looking man came for a job as a hob carrier one day. My dad had no idea who he was not being a drinking man but more of church going gave him a job. Said his name was ray morgan any ways after about two weeks dad notice that one day he would check in at about 8am but around 11am he be gone and not seen again until around 3pm. But the next day he not be seen until 11am and be gone around 2pm?????. So dad followed him one day he was working on another building site about a mile up the road cheeky thing which meant he was claiming two wagers. Dad being 5ft nothing and around 9 stone nothing and a not a fighting man confronted him in-front of all the site workers. Told him he could only work at one place ray was taken back by this as nobody had ever stood up to him this earned my dad rays respected . But when the others told him about his reputation etc my dad felt quite sick.

Am pretty sure it was Ray morgan that scared the **** out of me I think it was the scares on his face and that stare he gave. But in a very rough way he was strangely attractive. But I was only 17/20 at the time which would have been around 1980 -1986, He was married or lived with one of my ex hubby BEING David Keenan, mates Paul & mick Marshall sister, don’t recall her name but she was a stunning short haired blonde, We went drinking with them a now and again but he still scared me, We spent one new years eve at his flat when he lived on Norfolk park I can just about remember him trying to hang some poor bloke one over the balcony by his feet we was about 10 floors up. We was all screaming at him the lad was ok but he was pretty shock up like we was. One hung from ray was awful he would crush you and this was a friendly hug I also recall he was always trying to sell gold.
A fews years back I was talking to my dad about him and he told me a funny story, my dad used to run building sites and this massive hard looking man came for a job as a hob carrier one day. My dad had no idea who he was not being a drinking man but more of church going gave him a job. Said his name was ray morgan any ways after about two weeks dad notice that one day he would check in at about 8am but around 11am he be gone and not seen again until around 3pm. But the next day he not be seen until 11am and be gone around 2pm?????. So dad followed him one day he was working on another building site about a mile up the road cheeky thing which meant he was claiming two wagers. Dad being 5ft nothing and around 9 stone nothing and a not a fighting man confronted him in-front of all the site workers. Told him he could only work at one place ray was taken back by this as nobody had ever stood up to him this earned my dad rays respected . But when the others told him about his reputation etc my dad felt quite sick.

Raymond Morgon lived with his wife Glyniss at the time you describe, the man you are describing sounds like mick crich.

FOR THE OP.

Ray now lives at shortferry.
Dennis still lives in sheffield.

I also knewsome of the old keenans.
ALEC, JEAN, PETER.

ummm I always thought mick crich was stabbed to death by his girlfriend around the same time I only met mick twice briefly, once was in a pub in town think it was called brown cow opposite to the old courts and next to old Co,op, we used to drink down stairs there but you needed your wits about you it was a hell hole full of hard heads. And next time was in the wagon and horse,s at heelly green him and his mates came a had a game of pool with my ex David Keenan and his brother Ian keenan ,He had on one of them long trench coats could have been leather, jeans cowboy boots & his hair was longish blonde or mousey quite a looker,And he was carrying some sort of shooter in his coat was really long could have been a air pistol ? he was playing pool with it. I may have rays name wrong he could have been Ray Shackleton or somthing else am not sure.But I know he was still alive at least 10 years after the mick crich was dead ( if i have right name ).i saw him in pub one night resting on the bar.

As to keenans the older ones where paddy his brother william both painters both dead & sis Katherine she was disabled.
From William from his 1st marriage to mary was David my x his brothers phil (dead) & Ian nick named killer there was 4 sisters aswell 1 died.
There mush have been another brother to william because I remember cusions tommy blonde a real looker, paul & two others could have been peter or alex.

happy times

ummm I always thought mick crich was stabbed to death by his girlfriend around the same time I only met mick twice briefly, once was in a pub in town think it was called brown cow opposite to the old courts and next to old Co,op, we used to drink down stairs there but you needed your wits about you it was a hell hole full of hard heads. And next time was in the wagon and horse,s at heelly green him and his mates came a had a game of pool with my ex David Keenan and his brother Ian keenan ,He had on one of them long trench coats could have been leather, jeans cowboy boots & his hair was longish blonde or mousey quite a looker,And he was carrying some sort of shooter in his coat was really long could have been a air pistol ? he was playing pool with it. I may have rays name wrong he could have been Ray Shackleton or somthing else am not sure.But I know he was still alive at least 10 years after the mick crich was dead ( if i have right name ).i saw him in pub one night resting on the bar.

As to keenans the older ones where paddy his brother william both painters both dead & sis Katherine she was disabled.
From William from his 1st marriage to mary was David my x his brothers phil (dead) & Ian nick named killer there was 4 sisters aswell 1 died.
There mush have been another brother to william because I remember cusions tommy blonde a real looker, paul & two others could have been peter or alex.

happy times

The pub next to the co-op is the cannon.
I was with mick crich the night he died.

Alec Keenan owned a painting business in the 70's

really why did she kill him such a waste,
yep that's right Alex must have been the father to Tommy etc.Tommys 1st wife committed suicide he was in right state at that time. I went to school with her sister. Did you read my early post about lol night

really why did she kill him such a waste,
yep that's right Alex must have been the father to Tommy etc.Tommys 1st wife committed suicide he was in right state at that time. I went to school with her sister. Did you read my early post about lol night

I knew lol and david.
Helen killed mick in a rage, they had just got home from cj's.

I knew lol and david.
Helen killed mick in a rage, they had just got home from cj's.

theres a name i havent heard for a long long time :)

i used to go in/help out at the alpha hotel (nether edge) and mick used to drink in there. i was only in my teens, mick always had a good word to say, a bit of a laugh and a joke. theres not much else i can write about him on a public forum lol, :)

theres a name i havent heard for a long long time :)

i used to go in/help out at the alpha hotel (nether edge) and mick used to drink in there. i was only in my teens, mick always had a good word to say, a bit of a laugh and a joke. theres not much else i can write about him on a public forum lol, :)

I used to go in the alpha so we will have known each other.
We had some good card games in there.
I remember one Christmas day when the alpha was booked up for dinners and ran out of turkey. We all moved up to the montgomery when the closed down.

I used to go in the alpha so we will have known each other.
We had some good card games in there.
I remember one Christmas day when the alpha was booked up for dinners and ran out of turkey. We all moved up to the montgomery when the closed down.

i was quite young then...main reason for going in was that they paid me (in beer) for glasscollecting :)

terry and christine had the place at the time, she was a friend of my mums, along with dennis who helped behind the bar :)

i was quite young then...main reason for going in was that they paid me (in beer) for glasscollecting :)

terry and christine had the place at the time, she was a friend of my mums, along with dennis who helped behind the bar :)

A long time ago maxine, your talking about 25- 30 years ago.
I once remember judge james pickles mentioning the alpha in a trial, he said "is that the hotel where they rent the rooms by the hour instead of the night"?

A long time ago maxine, your talking about 25- 30 years ago.

indeed, doesnt time fly :(

not been in sheffield since 1969 ,anybody know what happend to ray morgan and denis hobson local hardmen of the sixtys +do they still run blackpudding bending courses at daveys?

I think I remember Ray Morgan. Carried a Hod for Brickies that built our Showroom on Shalesmoor in 1966. Good guy ..tough as nails and ran up and down the ladder all day.Brickies had a job keeping up. he contracted for Clenal builders and had the odd pint in The Ship Inn Next door to the site.

Does anybody remember Sheffield 6 hardcase ,Keith Sydney Littlewood (Lit's) lots of local folklore about him.

Does anybody remember Sheffield 6 hardcase ,Keith Sydney Littlewood (Lit's) lots of local folklore about him. is this the same keith littlewood who had a stall next door to where wilkinsons is now and used to frequent the roman ridge pub on the flower estate?

Does anybody remember Sheffield 6 hardcase ,Keith Sydney Littlewood (Lit's) lots of local folklore about him.

I still know Keith, he has the stall at the top of Dixon lane.

This thread could do with merging with a recent thread titled ' Big hitters of the 50's and 60's'. Both are covering very much the same subject, IMHO merging would be a good idea.

Keith Littlewood lives opposite me at parson cross, would be greta to hear some old stories!

The pub next to the co-op is the cannon.
I was with mick crich the night he died.

Alec Keenan owned a painting business in the 70's

Anybody remember Brains/Barry Walker he was with Critch when he was killed.
Barry was a great kid he used to knock around with Kelsey who was a small time crook.
Sadly he died about three years ago about two years after his brother Fat Alan.What a duo the scrapes they used to get into had you in tears of laughter when they told their stories.
Both sadly missed

Anybody remember Brains/Barry Walker he was with Critch when he was killed.
Barry was a great kid he used to knock around with Kelsey who was a small time crook.
Sadly he died about three years ago about two years after his brother Fat Alan.What a duo the scrapes they used to get into had you in tears of laughter when they told their stories.
Both sadly missed

Didn't Kelsey do time for shooting someone?

Didn't Kelsey do time for shooting someone?

No, Barry Walker for the shooting of arthur davis.

Anybody remember Brains/Barry Walker he was with Critch when he was killed.
Barry was a great kid he used to knock around with Kelsey who was a small time crook.
Sadly he died about three years ago about two years after his brother Fat Alan.What a duo the scrapes they used to get into had you in tears of laughter when they told their stories.
Both sadly missed

We were in cj's and mick was getting a bit funny with helen, barry went home with mick and helen, the next morning mick was dead.
Barry had only just got out of prison for the arthur davis shooting the day before.

We were in cj's and mick was getting a bit funny with helen, barry went home with mick and helen, the next morning mick was dead.
Barry had only just got out of prison for the arthur davis shooting the day before.Here's another Sheffield 6 case! John Chidlow,late of the Bell Hag Inn,Crosspool!...........I was going to say don't mess with me ,because Littlewood and Chidlow were both known to me,but sadly I think they have both done it! Heard Mark Crampton died suddenly in October last year,but did not know him only by reputation,after it seems his parents had their windows blasted out by shotgun fire in Stannington last year!

Do you remember Lol Knight who liked to have a go at the law around about the 50s & 60s.

My old dad who was pretty handy on the cross in his younger days told me a story of this Lol Knight spouting off at him for a scrap so they went in Longley Park and according to old dad he give him what for,so he says.

Here's another Sheffield 6 case! John Chidlow,late of the Bell Hag Inn,Crosspool!...........I was going to say don't mess with me ,because Littlewood and Chidlow were both known to me,but sadly I think they have both done it! Heard Mark Crampton died suddenly in October last year,but did not know him only by reputation,after it seems his parents had their windows blasted out by shotgun fire in Stannington last year!

I was talking to someone the other day who said john chidlow had been very ill.

I was talking to someone the other day who said john chidlow had been very ill.
He had a stroke a couple of years ago.

I was talking to someone the other day who said john chidlow had been very ill.

I knew him a long time ago, he was a top bloke,

I was talking to someone the other day who said john chidlow had been very ill.

Yes john isnt good at all .....he was very lucky to survive...he is in a wheelchair these days and needs to be looked after.Ive known john since he was a teenager think his life style finally took its toll ime afraid

ray morgan is my uncle and yes moved to lincoln:)

The name joe hancock comes to mind.He frequented the nelson and died there on the stairs if I remember correctly.

ray morgan is my uncle and yes moved to lincoln:)

He lives at shortferry.
Just past Lincoln, nearest place is Bardney.

The name joe hancock comes to mind.He frequented the nelson and died there on the stairs if I remember correctly.

I remember him, sweetman. 1960s. Tall guy, long coat, long blond hair beatle style, usually wore a hat. And always with a couple of his bodyguards. You stayed clear of him. As I recollect someone knifed him.

dont know if its true or not, but someone said the late desmond defrietas was quite handy in his younger days, i only met him a few times prior to his death, seemed a decent bloke

des was a top bloke i new him when he lived on hyde park he would stand on landing in his pants and ask anybody walking past if they would goto shop for him then he would lower the money down in a bucket and wait while you went back and pull em up always dressed smart sadley died a few years ago while bouncing at gladstones pub in town had a heart attack

dont know if its true or not, but someone said the late desmond defrietas was quite handy in his younger days, i only met him a few times prior to his death, seemed a decent bloke

We lived next door to Desmond "Des" Defrietas for over ten years and he was a real character and one of the best neighbours we ever had! He wasn't a man to cross.

I still know Keith, he has the stall at the top of Dixon lane.

Does Keith have a son called Darren? If so,my brother beat him in a boxing fight about 10 years ago.

dennis hobson owned a scrap yard on manor lane, more recently was the landlord of the frecheville hotel i knew dennis from the pubs my father used to run, I also knew ray morgan very well his eldest son mick used to have the mediteranean restaurant on sharowvale road hes still a chef in the restaurant game but not sure where now his younger son raymond joined the navy,
ray lived for quite a while on erskine road arbourthorne ( just round the corner from one of his sparring partners another character gerald scarface mullen ) he now lives in linconshire where he took a pub , but i dont believe he has it now ,
I`ve seen many so called big hitters pay the price for underestimating both of these blokes but to me they were always spot on I never saw either man start a fight only finish it




ps ray morgan now lives on a boat in linconshire

When i split with the missus about 10 years ago,Dennis let me live in his pub in Frecheville.I stayed there about 8 months.Had some good laughs with Dennis and his mates.Dennis is a really nice bloke.

how is this thread different from the big hitters one? shouldn't they be merged?

I knew him a long time ago, he was a top bloke,

I knew john as a young lad .....he was always great to myself & my sister .

how is this thread different from the big hitters one? shouldn't they be merged?They should be merged they are both on about the same things :huh:

Digressing from the thread a little bit but wern't the 50to 70's great times.I and my mates drank in town and knew of these lads but they never bothered anybody who didn't bother them.Everybody then seemed to get on with each other when out having a drink in town ,ok there was the occasional bust up but what good times compared to todays morons that are knocking about.

Here's another Sheffield 6 case! John Chidlow,late of the Bell Hag Inn,Crosspool!...........I was going to say don't mess with me ,because Littlewood and Chidlow were both known to me,but sadly I think they have both done it! Last I heard mossdog, John C was still alive, but not in the best of health.

Last I heard mossdog, John C was still alive, but not in the best of health.

In a wheelchair now John, I think, or he was, in a very bad way. I think he had a stroke?

Does anybody remember Sheffield 6 hardcase ,Keith Sydney Littlewood (Lit's) lots of local folklore about him.

I know he used to be a grammer school boy, got expelled from king edwards in the 50's or 60's .I saw him win a bet in the park hotel with a swiss tourist during the world cup in the sixtys . the bet was if he could sing the swiss national anthem .which he preceeded to do in swiss.

Digressing from the thread a little bit but wern't the 50to 70's great times.I and my mates drank in town and knew of these lads but they never bothered anybody who didn't bother them.Everybody then seemed to get on with each other when out having a drink in town ,ok there was the occasional bust up but what good times compared to todays morons that are knocking about.

Sorry mate, I had to have a chuckle at the thought of Dennis Hobson and Ray Morgan getting on with each other during one of their many set to's. :hihi:

Digressing from the thread a little bit but wern't the 50to 70's great times.I and my mates drank in town and knew of these lads but they never bothered anybody who didn't bother them.Everybody then seemed to get on with each other when out having a drink in town ,ok there was the occasional bust up but what good times compared to todays morons that are knocking about.

they'd just use them for target practist

In a wheelchair now John, I think, or he was, in a very bad way. I think he had a stroke?

Pretty much what I heard Grappler.

Yes he had a stroke a few years ago now.

I knew john as a young lad .....he was always great to myself & my sister .

Sorry to tell you, but I heard he died Sunday.

How very sad..........thank you for letting me know

Well just been discussing this thread and my husband knows everyone of them, and told me some real stories.

How very sad..........thank you for letting me know

Sorry for this but we have just found out that he is not dead. Just makes you sick that someone can tell you that. They ought to get the facts right, I sincerely apologise.

I had a phone call about 8 weeks ago that Ray Morgan had passed away.

I know he used to be a grammer school boy, got expelled from king edwards in the 50's or 60's .I saw him win a bet in the park hotel with a swiss tourist during the world cup in the sixtys . the bet was if he could sing the swiss national anthem .which he preceeded to do in swiss.

hiya, i wonder if the kieth littlewood was the same one who used to come in the pub called minskies ( the bathfield ) weston st, he would come in with the biggest suitcase ever, and would put it on two stools, he sold allsorts sweaters .shirts.scarves,the lot, seemed a right enough bloke, was surprised to read the comments on here though, this was nearly 50 years ago,
p.s around that time i was playing a game of crib and one who was sat at the table ithought i recognised his face, when i said i know your face but i can't place where, to which he said " ever been in armley" never found out who he was.

hiya, i wonder if the kieth littlewood was the same one who used to come in the pub called minskies ( the bathfield ) weston st, he would come in with the biggest suitcase ever, and would put it on two stools, he sold allsorts sweaters .shirts.scarves,the lot, seemed a right enough bloke, was surprised to read the comments on here though, this was nearly 50 years ago,yep, its the same keith littlewood:hihi:

I had a phone call about 8 weeks ago that Ray Morgan had passed away.

I was talking to alex3659 about Ray a few days ago, I am certain that he would have told me about this fairly relevant point. I have a feeling that the reports on Raymond's demise have been vastly exaggerated, fingers crossed.

Brains,,was my uncle,alan (betta known as "fat un"?), my dad.i was only a nipper but have to say it was fun been amongst them in the many pubs they travelled in, stories they could tell and experiences been more with laughter...to say the least.many characters alongside them.good old days!!!!

I'd be interested to know more about the Morgan character. I would have been 8 in 1969, so he was before my time. However, I have heard tales of the man's lethal prowess with the "nut" [head- butting]. I was told that he was very stocky, of medium height and absolutely fearless. If Deadgobby, or anyone else has some background details, I would be pleased. I was also told that Morgan once took on a huge opponent, and virtually climbed up the guy to deliver the fatal blow. Which area was he from? Did he work in the market?

Ray now lives in Short Ferry near Lincoln he was my mates uncle I met him in 67 when he was visiting his sister

How many hobson's of note lived in sheffield. I remember dennis & his brother who lived on longley,anyone remember them regards dave b

Just Phoned the Tyrwhitt Arms at Short Ferry 9 15 am june 10th AND spoke to the landlady, she has had numerous calls regarding Ray Morgan, also cards of sypathy, THE MAN IS STILL VERY MUCH ALIVE AND WELL

ray morgan is my uncle and yes moved to lincoln:)

billandben/ I knocked around and went to school with Ken Barton who died a few years ago.

Just Phoned the Tyrwhitt Arms at Short Ferry 9 15 am june 10th AND spoke to the landlady, she has had numerous calls regarding Ray Morgan, also cards of sypathy, THE MAN IS STILL VERY MUCH ALIVE AND WELL

This is the most exaggerated ingrowing toenail in living history. :hihi:

This is the most exaggerated ingrowing toenail in living history. :hihi:

Its about time this thread was shut down ....

Its about time this thread was shut down ....

You obviously don't care for this thread, you have posted on it twice, once to have it merged with the'Big Hitters' thread, which I can understand, and one to close it, which I can't.

If I don't care for the content of a thread I tend to stay off it, but I don't see any problem with this one, perhaps you could elaborate.

i find this thread very interesting since i was knocking about town in those far off days so if you dont like it pigeon go to another thread and stop trying to spoil it for us

i find this thread very interesting since i was knocking about town in those far off days so if you dont like it pigeon go to another thread and stop trying to spoil it for us

me to i remimber most ofum if da dunt like it pigion dunt say owt . yours ex scrapman

you obviously don't care for this thread, you have posted on it twice, once to have it merged with the'big hitters' thread, which i can understand, and one to close it, which i can't.

If i don't care for the content of a thread i tend to stay off it, but i don't see any problem with this one, perhaps you could elaborate.

its the same things over and over it should have merged with the big hitters its all about the same people

its the same things over and over it should have merged with the big hitters its all about the same people

Try admin, they will most probably see the sense in merging the two threads.

Note to badge mush. I believe Mick was killed by his then parner/wife,back in eighties. If memory serves. Apololigies if wrong.

It was John Chidlaws brother,Bob,that died,NOT john.

They all sound a bit like Tom and Jerry and their penchant for violence sems to be revered by many;most ended up in a tragic situation.

I knew the Walkers-Brains sat nxt to me on the 1st day of our last term @ Chaucer school before leaving-they called his name out @ register-didn't see him again til he came for his school leaving report-nxt time i saw him was in my mid 20s @ Shaws tea stall in the market-we looked @ each other trying to figure out where we knew each other from-i mentioned a few firms i'd worked for,he said no,then he mentioned a load of nicks we might have met in?haha-what a character-somebody once told me,when they lived up Parkwood Springs gypsies reported them to police for nicking 1 of their horses haha-They had a sister,Carol,i think-havn't seen her for yrs though-also on same thread,Ken Barton was a big pal of mine,sadly missed.:loopy:

Just Phoned the Tyrwhitt Arms at Short Ferry 9 15 am june 10th AND spoke to the landlady, she has had numerous calls regarding Ray Morgan, also cards of sypathy, THE MAN IS STILL VERY MUCH ALIVE AND WELL

Had a few of them Tyrwhitt burgers back in the 80s....good pub, I try to eat more healthy now like (random I Know) :D

Its about time this thread was shut down ....

I agree shut down along with the grimsthorpe chat club:loopy::loopy:

I agree shut down along with the grimsthorpe chat club:loopy::loopy:

Flyer wants to get his hands on a ladies boobs thread, at least I think that was what he said. :hihi:

I agree shut down along with the grimsthorpe chat club:loopy::loopy:

Why, did you cop a few scutches from some of the people mentioned??.

Why, did you cop a few scutches from some of the people mentioned??.

You will find that flyer had emigrated by the time these guys came to the front, he might have had a scutch from George Mooney though. :hihi:

You will find that flyer had emigrated by the time these guys came to the front, he might have had a scutch from George Mooney though. :hihi:

Quite a few are his age group but not half as grumpy.:hihi::hihi:..

had a caravan at shortferry for a few years ray morgan was in pub most weekends with his wife
used to chat with him about old days down cliffe .a really nice bloke never no bother

had a caravan at shortferry for a few years ray morgan was in pub most weekends with his wife
used to chat with him about old days down cliffe .a really nice bloke never no bother

Joyce keeps him under control.

Why, did you cop a few scutches from some of the people mentioned??.
never heard the word scutches but what goes around comes around a lot of grimthorpe's jumped down on me for saying a thread should stick to Sheffield history &Expats when asking a question i was drowned out by usless chat ,and who was first in line (a bird) so just giving back in kind:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Quite a few are his age group but not half as grumpy.:hihi::hihi:..

From now on I'm going to type very slowwwwly so you all get what i'm trying to say

From now on I'm going to type very slowwwwly so you all get what i'm trying to say

I bet you was a star at tiggy.

I bet you was a star at tiggy.

no just an allround star and a wonderfull good guy being positively perfect:):)

no just an allround star and a wonderfull good guy being positively perfect:):)

Doesn't sound like the mardy arse that we all know mumping on here for threads to be closed and argueing with birds.:o:o....

I found the thread interesting until I noticed the tone seemed to be endorsing violent crimes... And then I thought.. This probably has no place in this forum, and I wish it had no place in Sheffield.

Doesn't like the mardy arse that we all know mumping on here for threads to be closed and argueing with birds.:o:o....
First you total did not get what i was trying to say even when i type slowly for you, second the mark of a Sheffielder is a sense of humour be it warped at time,(u seem to have none) second with a name like Alex you must be an import form a more dour regions and 3 uk being 5 hrs ahead 10 o'clock is time for your medication and bed

Doesn't like the mardy arse that we all know mumping on here for threads to be closed and argueing with birds.:o:o....
First you total did not get what i was trying to say even when i type slowly for you, second the mark of a Sheffielder is a sense of humour be it warped at time,(u seem to have none) second with a name like Alex you must be an import form a more dour regions and 3 uk being 5 hrs ahead 10 o'clock is time for your medication and bed

Doesn't like the mardy arse that we all know mumping on here for threads to be closed and argueing with birds.:o:o....
First you total did not

I found the thread interesting until I noticed the tone seemed to be endorsing violent crimes... And then I thought.. This probably has no place in this forum, and I wish it had no place in Sheffield.

^^^^This^^^^^
Scum the lot of em.

First you total did not get what i was trying to say even when i type slowly for you, second the mark of a Sheffielder is a sense of humour be it warped at time,(u seem to have none) second with a name like Alex you must be an import form a more dour regions and 3 uk being 5 hrs ahead 10 o'clock is time for your medication and bed

Like I said a grumpy mardy arse.
Thanks for insulting my name and health Biggles, how do you feel being named after a leaflet?.
Canada was really blessed to get you on their turf.:roll::hihi:..
If you still had a grasp of the local language perhaps you would not struggle so much with the threads that seem to upset you.
Have you never heard of the term "getting a scutch" in Sheffield?.

Like I said a grumpy mardy arse.
Thanks for insulting my name and health Biggles, how do you feel being named after a leaflet?.
Canada was really blessed to get you on their turf.:roll::hihi:..
If you still had a grasp of the local language perhaps you would not struggle so much with the threads that seem to upset you.
Have you never heard of the term "getting a scutch" in Sheffield?.

Rapier like wit-makes Oscar Wilde sound like Ena Sharrples:hihi:

Rapier like wit-makes Oscar Wilde sound like Ena Sharrples:hihi:

:hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi:.......

Very good............

There's nowt wrong wi owd Pamphlet it's all in good fun.

Like I said a grumpy mardy arse.
Thanks for insulting my name and health Biggles, how do you feel being named after a leaflet?.
Canada was really blessed to get you on their turf.:roll::hihi:..
If you still had a grasp of the local language perhaps you would not struggle so much with the threads that seem to upset you.
Have you never heard of the term "getting a scutch" in Sheffield?.
once again you choose to get the wrong end you never read my first remark in your hurry to spew your hatred, and i'm a very happy soul ,as for your name one can but suggest its not a Yorkshire name unless you wave a limp wrist, and nowhere can i see i mention your heath although think maybe a mental therpist may help you over come nastyness

First you total did not get what i was trying to say even when i type slowly for you, second the mark of a Sheffielder is a sense of humour be it warped at time,(u seem to have none) second with a name like Alex you must be an import form a more dour regions and 3 uk being 5 hrs ahead 10 o'clock is time for your medication and bed

once again you choose to get the wrong end you never read my first remark in your hurry to spew your hatred, and i'm a very happy soul ,as for your name one can but suggest its not a Yorkshire name unless you wave a limp wrist, and nowhere can i see i mention your heath although think maybe a mental therpist may help you over come nastyness

Here you are mate seeing as a few hours is to long for you to remember.
In your post above you slag my name and my health telling me it's time for my medication.
Now I realise you are getting on in years but
Who says my name is Alex, is your's flyer??.:loopy:.
My wrist is fine thankyou but thanks for asking, maybe if yours was limp you would be a bit more cheerful.:hihi:
The only person spouting hatred is you with your senile rants so maybe you should take some of the medication you recommend for me.:hihi:..

So in a nutshell,
You hate the grimesthorpe thread but can't spell it.
You hate the knucklehead thread.
You don't like my name.
You think I have a limp wrist.
You question my mental health.
Yet you say you are a jovial, happy cheerful chap.:roll:..

Yer not exactly Chubby Brown mi owd.:hihi:....

I bet thar a reight laff at stand up bingo.:hihi::hihi:......

Cheer up Pamphlet it I thought we were have a bubble with each other.

bubble = laugh.;).

No hatered what so ever from me Pamphlet mi owd.

Ye Gods you two! Never was a thread more aptly named - taking local in the global sense of course

Ye Gods you two! Never was a thread more aptly named - taking local in the global sense of course

:hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi:...........

I was thinking that myself.

Alex, you've got the bloke all wrong,he used to cook in a Chinese chipshop,hence the name flyer.

:hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi:...........

I was thinking that myself.

If this means that you two are going to kiss and make up, might I remind you that tonguing is strictly against forum rules. ;)

Alex, you've got the bloke all wrong,he used to cook in a Chinese chipshop,hence the name flyer.

:hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi:.

If this means that you two are going to kiss and make up, might I remind you that tonguing is strictly against forum rules. ;)

Not until you and baz riley do the same.;)..

Not until you and baz riley do the same.;)..

OK but only if he pays. My postcode is far too low to afford anything more than a packet of Skips and a reach-around:love:

If this means that you two are going to kiss and make up, might I remind you that tonguing is strictly against forum rules. ;)
So its off to the "Rovers Return"we can all walk around with the gang pating each other on the bum with a Ilove me who do you love

So its off to the "Rovers Return"we can all walk around with the gang pating each other on the bum with a Ilove me who do you love

Where in Canada does tha live Pamphlet mi owd mucker?.

never heard the word scutches but what goes around comes around a lot of grimthorpe's jumped down on me for saying a thread should stick to Sheffield history &Expats when asking a question i was drowned out by usless chat ,and who was first in line (a bird) so just giving back in kind:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

"Scutch" was a 1970s word which meant hitting someone across the back of the head with an open handed slap. Or at least it did at my school.

I was getting scutched in the 40/50s

I was getting scutched in the 40/50s

There was a lot of scutching going on in Sheffield over the years rossy.

"Scutch" was a 1970s word which meant hitting someone across the back of the head with an open handed slap. Or at least it did at my school.

With an upward movement! Older than 1970s I'd say.

With an upward movement! Older than 1970s I'd say.

Yes with an upward movement!

[QUOTE=FLUFFFYCAT;5834301]really why did she kill him such a waste,
yep that's right Alex must have been the father to Tommy etc.Tommys 1st wife committed suicide he was in right state at that time. I went to school with her sister. Did you read my early post about lol night[/QUOi
im married to tommy

really why did she kill him such a waste,
yep that's right Alex must have been the father to Tommy etc.Tommys 1st wife committed suicide he was in right state at that time. I went to school with her sister. Did you read my early post about lol night

im married to tommy