What do you think is responsible for these?

Alot of people think extra-terrestrials are responsible for them. I have to admit that some of them do look very complex but I'm not prepared to admit that they are the work of aliens. I think they are just silly pranks.

Have seen programmes where people admit to doing them, but can't see how all are done in such a short time.
Also seen scientists(?) pointing out evidence for radiation damage.
Wish someone would explain for sure though.

There just pranks i think.The idea of extra-terrestrials traveling billions of miles just to make crop circles is a little to ridiculous for me. Thanx to the interweb i imagine its not that hard to get 100+ people in a field at night to make these things.

Originally posted by Lickszz
What do you think is responsible for these?

Alot of people think extra-terrestrials are responsible for them. I have to admit that some of them do look very complex but I'm not prepared to admit that they are the work of aliens. I think they are just silly pranks.

Who knows what cause these crop circles? or UFOs, Why people disappear into thin air in broad daylight while their families are watching, why armies on the battlefield have marched into oblvion whist being watched,why people are burned to death by spontaneous combustion...etc. etc. there are more things in heaven and Earth Horatio......It would be very arrogant of us to assume that we know EVERYTHING!!! RIGHT!!!

Good point mr c, but the radiation thing is a bit of a mystery.
Aliens is a bit far fetched as well, I agree.:loopy: (where crop circles are concerned I mean). Maybe we'll never know.

Originally posted by markham
but the radiation thing is a bit of a mystery.


Perhaps they all wear glow in the dark watches!! lol :D

I believe, without a doubt, that they are the handiwork of extraterrestrial beings.

I believe that they are signals to fellow aliens which are visible from inner-space. They mark strategic invasion points and are planning to spearhead a full-scale attack in two years time (May 2006), probably on the village of Gabowen in Shropshire.

Please don't be alarmed by this. They won't come near Sheffield. (I hope).

Originally posted by Sam Miguel
I believe, without a doubt, that they are the handiwork of extraterrestrial beings.

I believe that they are signals to fellow aliens which are visible from inner-space. They mark strategic invasion points and are planning to spearhead a full-scale attack in two years time (May 2006), probably on the village of Gabowen in Shropshire.

Please don't be alarmed by this. They won't come near Sheffield. (I hope).



Yoo ar teh funnAy!!11~1!! :rolleyes:

lots off people at teh same time!1

Originally posted by markham
but can't see how all are done in such a short time.

So, the likely explanation is that 90% of them turn up within walking distance of a university? ;) :P

My brother and his friends made a crop circle about 12 years ago in a field in Hampshire, next day the local press were down there. It ended up being reported in a book on crop circles.

Why don't we all co-ordinate together and create a crop circle somewhere??? When it gets reported we'll keep quiet for a while before spilling the beans.

We'll need someone good at deisgns to make the intricate pattern required.

I'm up for it!:thumbsup:

Photo of a good 'un here - News item, photo - crop circle (http://moora.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=news&subclass=local&story_id=429384&category=General+News&m=10&y=2005)

Although some of the many crop circles reported worldwide every year are bound to be fakes, just the sheer size, beauty and complexity of many others leaves me thinking that they are real.

But I do tend to think that way anyway ;)

what a load of pooooooooooooo

Originally posted by tastymorsel
what a load of pooooooooooooo

Ah, a considered response. :hihi: Can you post a link to your source? :D

I think some of em may be some kind of paranormal phenomenon, but most are probably man made.

Originally posted by Draggletail
[the]complexity of many others leaves me thinking that they are real.

Complexity is easily achieved with planks and a bit of string.

Just follow the rules for the canonical division of the plane. Rulers and dividers on paper, string in the field - this can give rise to the most spectacular patterns, - think of the Spirograph!

I've heard a theory that crop circles are made by wind turbulance. However the number in the proximity of stonehenge is suspicious. Although a large number are probably made by man, there are a few that I think could possibly be made by natural phenomenon IMO.

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
Complexity is easily achieved with planks and a bit of string.

Just follow the rules for the canonical division of the plane. Rulers and dividers on paper, string in the field - this can give rise to the most spectacular patterns, - think of the Spirograph!

OK, in principal, yes.

But the sheer size of some of them. Can people be really that bothered for the hoax value..... And Planks Phan? Don't think you can buy planks big enough for some of the larger crop circles. And don't tell me about some established system of utilising numbers of planks to do the job, too much effort needed I would have thought.
These things happen all over the world, it's not just some bored farmers/farm labourers in Wiltshire having a laugh. it's not some sort of 'British humour' I would imagine they are too tired to start making some of the very large 'crop circles' after a hard days work anyway (the smaller ones, OK, yes)

The people in the third world countries where crop circles appear, Have they the time and energy to put into faking crop circles? Maybe....
Anyway, I ain't suggesting These things are made by aliens or anything!

In the future they will be able to be explained through scientific understanding :nod:

We just aint got the understanding yet.
Look at some of these crop circle images and tell me more about planks and string ;)
Google - crop circle images (http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=crop+circles&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images)

Its a load of old poo I says!
Its just a load of pranksters thinking they are funny.

You'd hope that extra terrestrial beings would have something better to do...

Originally posted by Draggletail
OK, in principal, yes.

But the sheer size of some of them. Can people be really that bothered for the hoax value..... And Planks Phan? Don't think you can buy planks big enough for some of the larger crop circles. And don't tell me about some established system of utilising numbers of planks to do the job, too much effort needed I would have thought.
These things happen all over the world, it's not just some bored farmers/farm labourers in Wiltshire having a laugh. it's not some sort of 'British humour' I would imagine they are too tired to start making some of the very large 'crop circles' after a hard days work anyway (the smaller ones, OK, yes)

The people in the third world countries where crop circles appear, Have they the time and energy to put into faking crop circles? Maybe....
Anyway, I ain't suggesting These things are made by aliens or anything!

In the future they will be able to be explained through scientific understanding :nod:

We just aint got the understanding yet.
Look at some of these crop circle images and tell me more about planks and string ;)
Google - crop circle images (http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=crop+circles&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images)

Have you never seen film of a crop circle being made? A plank a few feet long, on a loop of string for a handle is used to flatten the corn in the direction of travel, at the point where it meets the ground. This lets you flatten corn in front of you as you lay the plank down on its edge and flatten it to the ground with your foot. This also produces nice, clean, evenly wide channels in the corn.

You will notice that all the intricate designs on the page you showed me are constructed from three and six-fold divisions of the circle. This is the simplest method of dividing the circle, and then using the points for further subdivision. Basically anything you can do with a ruler and a pair of compasses or dividers is so-called sacred geometry, and can easily be replicated in the field.

Using a rope of any length as a base unit, multiples and fractions of this unit are easily derived (by doubling or tripling the rope).

Once you have a base unit set, the magic of Sacred Geometry will unfold with unerring precision.

You can derive all sorts of interesting numerical sequences from your base unit, that will yield all manner of compound geometry that has that sense of 'unity' about it.
Where modern crop circle makers have really innovated is through the use of ellipses. Again, this is easily achieved using a loop of rope rather than a length, and your base unit is the combined radii from centres to points on the curve.

There's no doubt that some wind conditions do produce completely natural formations, but these are rudimentary and crude at best.

The stunning examples we used to see every year, on the road from Petersfield to Winchester (Cheesefoot Head and places) ever since the late 80s were acknowledged to be the work of a local land art group.

I believe they even colluded with local farmers who would charge access at the gate; and on one memorable occasion, did commercial work.

Now, if the crop circles could be deciphered to reveal the positions of undiscovered solar objects, or the mysteries of cosmology, I would give the 'mysterious' explanations little more credence.

But crop circles of seeming incredible complexity are easy to achieve with a small gang of people, planks, ropes and nowadays I expect, GPS devices, laser rangefinders, laser 'chalklines', walkie talkies and a few sketches.

Occam's Razor anyone?

interestingly enough , I think some are real - but all the ones I've looked at up close have been hoaxes..

they maybe fake but I think some look real Cool and should be an artform, without damageing crops!

Originally posted by Phanerothyme

......You will notice that all the intricate designs on the page you showed me are constructed from three and six-fold divisions of the circle. This is the simplest method of dividing the circle, and then using the points for further subdivision. Basically anything you can do with a ruler and a pair of compasses or dividers is so-called sacred geometry, and can easily be replicated in the field.


...... crop circles of seeming incredible complexity are easy to achieve with a small gang of people, planks, ropes and nowadays I expect, GPS devices, laser rangefinders, laser 'chalklines', walkie talkies and a few sketches.


Phan, I just knew You'd come back at me with a way to use planks and string ;)

Edit:.........

The latest crop cicles that have 'cropped' up again. Here we have the jelly fish.
What do you think caused this?


http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090603/tuk-jellyfish-crop-circle-appears-in-fie-dba1618.html

The latest crop circles that have 'cropped' up again. Here we have the jelly fish.
What do you think caused this?


http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090603/tuk-jellyfish-crop-circle-appears-in-fie-dba1618.html

I watched a documentary on this recently and they are incredible. There isn’t just a few of them, there have literally been thousands of them and the complexities of some of them are incredible.

To think people with string and wood could make these is too far fetched (I do think many are a hoax, but some are even 3D, it’s beyond a few blokes with a plank of wood in the dark)

Also, they don’t get any TV coverage these days so what would be the point of doing those all over Europe? And they are documented going back hundreds of years…that is one long “prank”.

I’m open minded to it. I don’t think it’s just a few farmers having a laugh ****** up on scrumpy.

Please don't be alarmed by this. They won't come near Sheffield. (I hope).

They will make a beeline for Sheffield, and their arrival will be heralded by what appears to be a group of Chinese Lanterns.

Watch for them! Watch the Skies! The Chinese Lantern-UFOs are coming!

Apparently, they (crop circles) are caused by "stoned" wallabies & sheep in Australia.

So says the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8118257.stm).

I believe, without a doubt, that they are the handiwork of extraterrestrial beings.

I believe that they are signals to fellow aliens which are visible from inner-space. They mark strategic invasion points and are planning to spearhead a full-scale attack in two years time (May 2006), probably on the village of Gabowen in Shropshire.

Please don't be alarmed by this. They won't come near Sheffield. (I hope).

It is my belief that when they do invade, they will choose Sheffield, in that manner they can easily blend in with all the other aliens and thus not look out of place, unless they have two heads or something, in which case they could just wear a wide burka.

This should put an end to this thread,narrated by Carl Sagan


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KoR2t-iM9k

Occam's Razor anyone?

The simplest answer is the one you should consider first?

This should put an end to this thread,narrated by Carl Sagan


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KoR2t-iM9k

hahaha, Carl Sagan you say? Sounds more like Dr. Nick Riviera M.D

this is what Carl Sagan sounds like - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p86BPM1GV8M&feature=related

No-one has managed to explain how the circles are formed in every case but there was a fascinating program that introduced two blokes who do make them. They don't use high tech methods and they've allowed themselves to be filmed making a circle. The best bit though was the so called crop circle experts who came to view the circle the day after, they weren't very impressed when after having spouts loads of waffle, used their dowsing rods, examined the grain that had to them been leveled all at the same instant and then they were shown the film footage, blustering commenced.