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Ted Dibiassi 21-06-2011, 20:45 I have today been in the The Barrow Boy's Pub that used to be on Shude Hill under Commercial Street.
Strange little place,I understand it shut in the 1980's and was popular with skinheads, however can't find out when it was built? its history? or find any pictures inside or out (apart from what it looks like now)
Just interested that's all :loopy:
I understand it was built as part of the road when commercial street was built as that part of the road as a bridge overy Pond St. Part of the arch I beleive was used at one one for the old rag and tag markets for storeage , hence the name barrow boys *.
It was a a nice little put with its bare brick walls and flag stone floor - ps I wasnt a skin head - just thought I would make that clear.
*Barrow boys appears to be a local name given to market trader lads who were used to take goods mainly fruit and veg into the market on barrows
Jim Hardie 21-06-2011, 21:03 I understand it was built as part of the road when commercial street was built as that part of the road as a bridge overy Pond St. Part of the arch I beleive was used at one one for the old rag and tag markets for storeage , hence the name barrow boys *.
It was a a nice little put with its bare brick walls and flag stone floor - ps I wasnt a skin head - just thought I would make that clear.
*Barrow boys appears to be a local name given to market trader lads who were used to take goods mainly fruit and veg into the market on barrows
Barrow slagging if I remember rightly.
stevie1957 21-06-2011, 21:15 I have today been in the The Barrow Boy's Pub that used to be on Shude Hill under Commercial Street.
Strange little place,I understand it shut in the 1980's and was popular with skinheads, however can't find out when it was built? its history? or find any pictures inside or out (apart from what it looks like now)
Just interested that's all :loopy:
Very popular with the miners during the 1984/5 strike.
chris101 22-06-2011, 10:03 Didn't know it was open again must pop in.
0114owl1867 14-09-2011, 23:00 I have today been in the The Barrow Boy's Pub that used to be on Shude Hill under Commercial Street.
Strange little place,I understand it shut in the 1980's and was popular with skinheads, however can't find out when it was built? its history? or find any pictures inside or out (apart from what it looks like now)
Just interested that's all :loopy:
Has it reopened then ? I used to love it in there probably around 1986, it had a real old feel to the place, if it is open again I bet I'll get goosebumps when I walk in :)
hard2miss 15-09-2011, 01:10 Blimey I remember drinking in there in my teens, was full of some salt of the earth folk, I used to go in for a few when going to the market, when we had a bit of pride in our market before Meadowhall and the likes sucked the life out of it.
Remember spending a lot of time drinking before and after a few court appearances also, especially nice when I wasn't expecting to have the opportunity to.
I have today been in the The Barrow Boy's Pub that used to be on Shude Hill under Commercial Street.
Strange little place,I understand it shut in the 1980's and was popular with skinheads, however can't find out when it was built? its history? or find any pictures inside or out (apart from what it looks like now)
Just interested that's all :loopy:i think theres a thread about the barrow boys in history & expats section, i'll have a look & see if i can find it
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=627235&highlight=barrow+boys found this 1, dont know if its of any use
Lady Star 15-09-2011, 09:14 Is this pub the Norfolk Arms? That was near Rebels...
stevie1957 15-09-2011, 09:30 Is this pub the Norfolk Arms? That was near Rebels...
No. ...........................
alex3659 15-09-2011, 09:32 Les Vickers was the person who opened it up and later Steve Baxendale had it before it closed.
Lady Star 15-09-2011, 10:02 No. ...........................
So where is it then? If it's near Dixon Lane, I can't think of another pub?
Jim Hardie 15-09-2011, 11:35 So where is it then? If it's near Dixon Lane, I can't think of another pub?
It was underneath Commercial Street.
Lady Star 15-09-2011, 11:41 It was underneath Commercial Street.
Underneath where the trams travel? I have never noticed a pub down there - will have to go and have a look!
Is this pub the Norfolk Arms? That was near Rebels...if you come out of the norfolk, turn right as if you were going to go to pond street under the bridge & the barrow boys is/was bang underneath the bridge
crookesey 15-09-2011, 11:54 It was underneath Commercial Street.
Trying to remember this, it must have been towards the end of Flat Street where the old YEB building was/is :confused:
Jim Hardie 15-09-2011, 12:04 Trying to remember this, it must have been towards the end of Flat Street where the old YEB building was/is :confused:
Not sure where the YEB building was. The Barrow Boys was actually underneath the bridge that carries Commercial Street over Pond Street/Shude Hill. As you walk from the little pub on the lane it was on the right hand side. If you look on Street View you can just see the boarded up door. Sorry, don't know how to do a link for it.
crookesey 15-09-2011, 12:06 Whilst we are in the area, does anyone have the history of Jew Lane, that runs off Commercial Street (near the Barclays building), and must come out near to said pub?
Bargepole23 15-09-2011, 12:09 Not sure where the YEB building was. The Barrow Boys was actually underneath the bridge that carries Commercial Street over Pond Street/Shude Hill. As you walk from the little pub on the lane it was on the right hand side. If you look on Street View you can just see the boarded up door. Sorry, don't know how to do a link for it.
Why is there always a gaggle of teenage street-drinkers under that bridge every teatime?
Jim Hardie 15-09-2011, 12:15 Whilst we are in the area, does anyone have the history of Jew Lane, that runs off Commercial Street (near the Barclays building), and must come out near to said pub?
Jew Lane was/is immediately to the right of the Barclays building. It's just a walkway now. I don't think it comes out anywhere. The nameplate was removed a few years ago. Probably someone in the town hall being offended on behalf of others.
crookesey 15-09-2011, 12:25 Jew Lane was/is immediately to the right of the Barclays building. It's just a walkway now. I don't think it comes out anywhere. The nameplate was removed a few years ago. Probably someone in the town hall being offended on behalf of others.
I'm thinking money lending/pawn shops, however there were Jewish stall holders in the old Rag & Tag (Harry Rubenstein for a start), I wonder if there was a Jewish getto there in Victorian times.
Whilst we are in the area, does anyone have the history of Jew Lane, that runs off Commercial Street (near the Barclays building), and must come out near to said pub?theres some very steep steps that go from the old post office & drop down to the barrow boys, iv heard people refer to them as jew steps back in the 80s
crookesey 15-09-2011, 12:42 theres some very steep steps that go from the old post office & drop down to the barrow boys, iv heard people refer to them as jew steps back in the 80s
It would be nice to solve this one, where are CHAIRBOY and Albert T Smith when you need them?
alex3659 15-09-2011, 12:49 Sheffield Vietnamese community association.
Jew Lane.
Fitzalan square.
Sheffield S1 2B.
Tel 0114 2701429
just found a thread about it, dont know if its any good http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=254157&highlight=history+of+jew+lane+sheffield
crookesey 15-09-2011, 12:57 Sheffield Vietnamese community association.
Jew Lane.
Fitzalan square.
Sheffield S1 2B.
Tel 0114 2701429
Well that simplifies matters no end. :hihi:
Has your mum any idea of it's origin, my Jewish mates have been dropping like flies of late?
Used to go in there Friday dinner from work, it was a cracking little pub. I'll have to have a walk down there to see what it's like now.
Jim Hardie 15-09-2011, 13:13 Whilst we are in the area, does anyone have the history of Jew Lane, that runs off Commercial Street (near the Barclays building), and must come out near to said pub?
Here (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=199125&highlight=jew+lane) we are Crookesey.
Here (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=199125&highlight=jew+lane) we are Crookesey.iv already put the thread up jim :thumbsup:
crookesey 15-09-2011, 13:25 iv already put the thread up jim :thumbsup:
Two different threads mate, I found yours, jim's is new to me.
Two different threads mate, I found yours, jim's is new to me.apologies :thumbsup:
Jim Hardie 15-09-2011, 13:28 iv already put the thread up jim :thumbsup:
You put a different one up. Heh, heh.:wink:
Jim Hardie 15-09-2011, 13:30 You put a different one up. Heh, heh.:wink:
Oops, should have waited a minute or two!
alex3659 15-09-2011, 13:32 Well that simplifies matters no end. :hihi:
Has your mum any idea of it's origin, my Jewish mates have been dropping like flies of late?
I will when I see her, she phoned the other night and said it was hitting nearly 40 degrees and the air conditioning was playing up. I told her to buy a fan and stop moaning....:hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi:.............
Oops, should have waited a minute or two!we all make mistakes ;):hihi:
crookesey 15-09-2011, 13:38 As there's a Mary Queen of Scots link, we ought to get cuttsie on the thread, he will probably remember her going down it and having a jar in The Norfolk and the Barrow Boys. :hihi:
Seriously though, he is very good on that part of town.
stevie1957 15-09-2011, 14:25 Whilst we are in the area, does anyone have the history of Jew Lane, that runs off Commercial Street (near the Barclays building), and must come out near to said pub?
I did a post about Jew Lane (Jehu Laneas it used to be called) a few years ago. I came across this.
http://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/1764-jew-lanejehu-lane/
stevie1957 15-09-2011, 14:42 Well that simplifies matters no end. :hihi:
Has your mum any idea of it's origin, my Jewish mates have been dropping like flies of late?
Did you know Curly Myers? (spelling?) He used to lived on Hands Road Commonside/Crookes.
alex3659 15-09-2011, 16:03 Did you know Curly Myers? (spelling?) He used to lived on Hands Road Commonside/Crookes.
I did..................
Steptoad 15-09-2011, 16:45 It would be nice to solve this one, where are CHAIRBOY and Albert T Smith when you need them?
I'm afraid CHAIRBOY passed away.
crookesey 15-09-2011, 17:34 I'm afraid CHAIRBOY passed away.
I'm aware of that, as I am of Albert's demise, I was complementing their knowledge of all things Sheffield.
As there's a Mary Queen of Scots link, we ought to get cutie on the thread, he will probably remember her going down it and having a jar in The Norfolk and the Barrow Boys. :hi hi:
Seriously though, he is very good on that part of town.
I used to know a Mary down there who drank in the Brunswick and also the Bull and Mouth .
Although she lived on the Manor she wasn't Scottish and as far as i remember no Queen either!
crookesey 15-09-2011, 19:17 I used to know a Mary down there who drank in the Brunswick and also the Bull and Mouth .
Although she lived on the Manor she wasn't Scottish and as far as i remember no Queen either!
The Manor had it's fair share of queens, along with Jewish folk.
The Manor had it's fair share of queens, along with Jewish folk.
I remember Walt and Harry who used to strut around in the early sixties .
The Jewish kids who went to Prince Edwards could look after themselves.
I still see a couple of em walking round The Manor Top.
Jewish kids that is, the Queens have gone upmarket onto Arbourthorne.
0114owl1867 15-09-2011, 20:34 still don't know if its reopened in any guise :(
crookesey 16-09-2011, 11:48 I remember Walt and Harry who used to strut around in the early sixties .
The Jewish kids who went to Prince Edwards could look after themselves.
I still see a couple of em walking round The Manor Top.
Jewish kids that is, the Queens have gone upmarket onto Arbourthorne.
Do you remember the Jewish guy with the club foot who had the fishing tackle shop on Mansfield Road, opposite the Woodthorpe pub? His name was Davison, he lived on Fretson Road.
There was an old Russian Cossack who lived somewhere down Prince of Wales Road. My best mates cousin is a Manor lad, or more like lass, if you met him with his partner, a lovely couple though, live and let live I say.
0114owl1867 16-09-2011, 11:59 I've been to look for myself today, it's got a new-ish shiney shutter with no name above it though that was at 9.15 am, however the Norfolk Arms had a few inside drinking and a few outside smoking at 9.15 am ;)
Do you remember the Jewish guy with the club foot who had the fishing tackle shop on Mansfield Road, opposite the Woodthorpe pub? His name was Davison, he lived on Fretson Road.
There was an old Russian Cossack who lived somewhere down Prince of Wales Road. My best mates cousin is a Manor lad, or more like lass, if you met him with his partner, a lovely couple though, live and let live I say.
I remember the fishing shop we used to buy catapults from him [home made]
The Russian bloke you mention may have been the same one that gave me a ten bob tip one snowy Christmas when i was delivering papers down there for Amies at The Manor Top,
Ten bob was my full weeks wage , I.E. Morning papers at 7 am. Stars at 5pm then the bloody Sunday round.
The guy who gave me the big tip took the Daily Worker paper and left me impressed with his politics for life!
crookesey 16-09-2011, 13:06 I remember the fishing shop we used to buy catapults from him [home made]
The Russian bloke you mention may have been the same one that gave me a ten bob tip one snowy Christmas when i was delivering papers down there for Amies at The Manor Top,
Ten bob was my full weeks wage , I.E. Morning papers at 7 am. Stars at 5pm then the bloody Sunday round.
The guy who gave me the big tip took the Daily Worker paper and left me impressed with his politics for life!
Rod Amies was a mate of mine, he died of a heart attack in his late 40's.
You have the correct Russian, he was a communist, following what he had seen the Tzar's men do.
Rod Amis was a mate of mine, he died of a heart attack in his late 40's.
You have the correct Russian, he was a communist, following what he had seen the Tzar's men do.
Mr Amies , Only in his forties when he died .Strange life isn't it as i thought he was ancient when i was working for him at 11 years old.
I always thought he was a very important man and remember him clearly to this day.
crookesey 16-09-2011, 16:31 Mr Amies , Only in his forties when he died .Strange life isn't it as i thought he was ancient when i was working for him at 11 years old.
I always thought he was a very important man and remember him clearly to this day.
You worked for Harold, Rod was his son.
You worked for Harold, Rod was his son.
Got it!
Remember him .
crookesey 16-09-2011, 19:09 Got it!
Remember him .
I recall a party in the living accommodation in the 60's when Rod's mum and dad were on holiday. It was well attended, even with Rod's support of SUFC, there were a number of SWFC players attending.
Rod came up with this idea that all the blokes should switch clothing with the girls. This is a lot harder for the blokes than it is for the girls, there was the sound of an opening door, and in stepped Mr and Mrs Amies home early from their holiday.
Harold Amies never again looked at me in the way that he used to. :help:
I recall a party in the living accommodation in the 60's when Rod's mum and dad were on holiday. It was well attended, even with Rod's support of SUFC, there were a number of SWFC players attending.
Rod came up with this idea that all the blokes should switch clothing with the girls. This is a lot harder for the blokes than it is for the girls, there was the sound of an opening door, and in stepped Mr and Mrs Amies home early from their holiday.
Harold Amies never again looked at me in the way that he used to. :help:
While we are onto Manor Top Land Crookesey Do you remember another Rodney in the sixties. Rodney Goodison.
crookesey 17-09-2011, 10:35 While we are onto Manor Top Land Crookesey Do you remember another Rodney in the sixties. Rodney Goodison.
No, we left The Manor when I was aged 5, my only connection after that was with Rod and my mate's gay cousin and his partner.
Crookesey, Cuttsie, Stevie, Hardie, Greavesie, Giggsy etc - that's all very interesting, but please return to the point of the OP. Ted has signed up to SF specifically to tell us all he went in some little old pub in the centre of Sheffield this week which has been closed for a generation. Is he having us on?
"I have today been in the The Barrow Boy's Pub that used to be on Shude Hill under Commercial Street."
So is it still under there then or what? Has it reopened? Where has Ted gone?
crookesey 17-09-2011, 11:21 Crookesey, Cuttsie, Stevie, Hardie, Greavesie, Giggsy etc - that's all very interesting, but please return to the point of the OP. Ted has signed up to SF specifically to tell us all he went in some little old pub in the centre of Sheffield this week which has been closed for a generation. Is he having us on?
"I have today been in the The Barrow Boy's Pub that used to be on Shude Hill under Commercial Street."
So is it still under there then or what? Has it reopened? Where has Ted gone?
Post 48 answers the question mate.
morrisminor 19-09-2011, 15:38 this space/room/location under the road for a long time had a very dodgyt shutter down, behind which various types would disappear. i suspect there was a complaint about something illicit happening behind there, to stop unauthorised access. i went past the day that the new shutter went past, and got a glimpse inside, it looked amazing! would be a brilliant place for a club/music venue.....ok so there is hotel ibis next door but. must have been a crazy pub, with no windows there!!!
in other news, for those interested in jew lane (which till now i thought you meant bakers hill, never noticed this lane!) you wont have much more chance to go down there: http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/your-city-council/council-meetings/planninghighways/citycentresouthandeast/agendas-2011/agenda-26th-september-2011 read the reports on jew lane there which are about it being stopped up.
Jim Hardie 19-09-2011, 16:10 this space/room/location under the road for a long time had a very dodgyt shutter down, behind which various types would disappear. i suspect there was a complaint about something illicit happening behind there, to stop unauthorised access. i went past the day that the new shutter went past, and got a glimpse inside, it looked amazing! would be a brilliant place for a club/music venue.....ok so there is hotel ibis next door but. must have been a crazy pub, with no windows there!!!
in other news, for those interested in jew lane (which till now i thought you meant bakers hill, never noticed this lane!) you wont have much more chance to go down there: http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/your-city-council/council-meetings/planninghighways/citycentresouthandeast/agendas-2011/agenda-26th-september-2011 read the reports on jew lane there which are about it being stopped up.
I never realised Jew Lane came out into Fitzalan Square. Must go and walk down it before it's closed forever.
belperite 19-09-2011, 17:40 I never realised Jew Lane came out into Fitzalan Square. Must go and walk down it before it's closed forever.
That's a poky little run isn't it? Never even noticed it, will have a walk down there next time I'm around!
Kristian 19-09-2011, 17:56 That's a poky little run isn't it? Never even noticed it, will have a walk down there next time I'm around!
You'd better get your skates on! :)
marketman 21-09-2011, 20:30 the Barrow boys is up for sale, a guy did want to buy it to turn it into a jazz club, but the offer from him was way too low.
So at the moment it is still closed
0114owl1867 21-09-2011, 20:55 the Barrow boys is up for sale, a guy did want to buy it to turn it into a jazz club, but the offer from him was way too low.
So at the moment it is still closed
At last some information regarding if its open or not, gutted it's not tho :(
old cossack 08-04-2012, 16:01 To OP there is a photo of the outside of Barrow Boys pub page 20 in Michael Liversidge's Sheffield Public Houses. When you went in (2011) was there anything left of the pub like the bar or fittings or was it just a shell just woundering?
Jim Hardie 08-04-2012, 18:59 Not sure where the YEB building was. The Barrow Boys was actually underneath the bridge that carries Commercial Street over Pond Street/Shude Hill. As you walk from the little pub on the lane it was on the right hand side. If you look on Street View you can just see the boarded up door. Sorry, don't know how to do a link for it.
I know how to do it now!
Here (http://g.co/maps/n3fdk) it is.
melthebell 08-04-2012, 19:12 i never went in but no of its skinhead reputation
merrylad 09-04-2012, 09:10 Trying to remember this, it must have been towards the end of Flat Street where the old YEB building was/is :confused:
Its inside the bridge over comercial street
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