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Susana
06-03-2004, 08:53
Can anyone give me any information about using pendulums. Is it a load of bunkum or do they really work for divination purposes? We've been experimenting at work and have come up with some strange results: for instance - everyone in the office asked the same specific question and all except one person got the same answer. Do we believe the majority or the minority, or do we dismiss it as a load of twaddle. How is the pendulum influenced and is there a scientific explanation?

Sidla
06-03-2004, 18:58
Is a pendulum one of those thingys that swings in a circle when something's true, but swings in a straight line when it's false? Or am I thinking of something else?

All the same, this is a good method of finding out if something's true or false.

Phanerothyme
06-03-2004, 19:01
Originally posted by Susana
Can anyone give me any information about using pendulums. Is it a load of bunkum or do they really work for divination purposes? We've been experimenting at work and have come up with some strange results: for instance - everyone in the office asked the same specific question and all except one person got the same answer. Do we believe the majority or the minority, or do we dismiss it as a load of twaddle. How is the pendulum influenced and is there a scientific explanation?

A bob or pendulum, especially if suspended on a length of fine chain, acts as a lever, greatly exaggerating the imperceptible motions of your fingers.

These motions are not under your concious control, but if you hold a pendulum and then simply think of it swinging clockwise, whilst holding your hand rock steady - you will find that the pendulum will start to swing/rotate.

This is another way of tapping into the subconcious.

chezlyn
06-03-2004, 19:21
I soppose it depends what you believe. You need to buy a natural crystal such as quartz or rose quartz or any you feel drawn to (mine is Amethyst) and place it on a chain. You hold it perfectly still at the end of the chain and ask a question. Many believe it is the spirit world you are contacting through it, and who is giving the answers. But the spirit has to be present for it to work. You can always ask the simple question if you have a presence with you, and obviously it will move to the right if you have. It swings RIGHT for yes, LEFT for no and SIDE to SIDE if indifferent or unsure.

It has worked many times for me. It's worked while I was alone and in company and has spun very fast and sometimes just a little. But it also has stayed chock still when there is no presence around. But you just have to try.

Who can say whether it is the spirit world being in contact with you or your own energy within that makes it move. I'm not entirely sure, but I have spoke to my deceased through it and got answers...........spooky stuff.
:loopy:

Sidla
06-03-2004, 19:36
Originally posted by chezlyn
Who can say whether it is the spirit world being in contact with you or your own energy within that makes it move. I'm not entirely sure, but I have spoke to my deceased through it and got answers...........spooky stuff.
:loopy:
I don't want to burst your bubble, but are you sure the 'deceased' were not just telling you what you wanted to hear?

Moon Maiden
06-03-2004, 19:50
I use a pendulum....gawds bet that supprised ya!

I have tried various methods and had some scary results on at least one occasion where the questions I was asking I had no idea of the answers and they were confirmed as being right by a third person...it almost felt like a ouija board.

Anyway, there are theories that the pendulum reacts to small movements in the muscle of your arm and pass down the chain to the pendulum.
The other theory is that your 'chi' energy is sending the force to the pendulum to make it move and thus picks up on the vibrations relevant to a persons health and well being - for crystal healing purposes.

I use the pendulum with my tarot cards when they refuse to give me a direct answer. I have found this method quite useful...but not everyone can use them. My hubby for example just makes it them wiggle slightly and the only way he can get it to move round in a circle is to spin it

We have had some 'woman' in who claims to be psychic use her pendulum to decide what she will buy. Unfortunately these spirits she speaks to have neglected to tell her that you don't spin your hand when choosing and are meant to keep your hand still :loopy:

Moon

chezlyn
08-03-2004, 09:28
It's OK sidla you haven't burst my bubble. I would never hold my life to it, I've no answers I'm a mere mortal like you! I got answers I didn't want to hear and some I did, don't understand it so don't take it too seriously. They were right though it's odd.:confused:

Susana
08-03-2004, 18:52
Hmm... Still not sure what to believe but some great replies. Thanks everyone for giving me food for thought. I think I will continue to dabble and see what happens.:thumbsup:

Phanerothyme
08-03-2004, 18:57
you could always conduct a double blind experiment to establish the truth (inasmuch as there is such a thing) of the matter.

Destiny
08-03-2004, 22:41
Hi
I have used my pendulem/dowser for the last 4 years. The only time it lets me down is when i am ill or going to be ill.......it knows, oddly enough. It gives me the right answers, even if i try to trick it. Always clear your mind when using it, think of nothing in particular. They also pick up on certain energies around you. I also use mine for seeking out ghosts.(sometimes i sense them and use the pendulem just to make sure)..the pendulem will pull towards the energy of the ghost and then start swinging in whichever direction. Start by asking it which way do you swing for yes....etc, then ask questions. They may swing in different directions for different people. Some people cannot get theirs to work. My friends at college(crystal healing) could not get theirs to work, while i sat happily using mine, and so did our lecturer, Remember, everyone is different. If you do meditation using crstals, it will also tell you which crystal to use by holding it over different crystals and asking it if this is the right crystal to use.and it works.
Hope this info has been a help.
Destiny x

Deavon
15-09-2005, 00:39
I haven't decided about pendulums just yet.

There are important arguments for and against.

At the minute... I swing both ways.


:hihi:

spyro2000
15-09-2005, 00:42
Originally posted by Deavon
I'm haven't decided about pendulums just yet.

There are important arguments for and against.

At the minute... I swing both ways.


:hihi:

hehe had me in stitches with that post ;)


I personally think that pendulums are a load of twaddle, but Ive got an open mind to be influenced.

Pseudonym
15-09-2005, 01:33
Originally posted by spyro2000
....I personally think that pendulums are a load of twaddle, but Ive got an open mind to be influenced.
LOL! Yeah, it sounds like it! :D

The power of the mind is truly remarkable and very little understood, linked to external indicators such as pendulums, ouija-boards, dowsing-rods, crystal balls, etc. who knows what it's capable of?

That's not to say that I believe that such artifacts aid it to reveal the 'truth', necessarily.

JoeP
15-09-2005, 06:58
Originally posted by spyro2000
hehe had me in stitches with that post ;)


I personally think that pendulums are a load of twaddle, but Ive got an open mind to be influenced.

I remember reading somewhere that they have bene used to sex day old birds - at that point there are no easily visible differences, but a skilled 'operator' can get a nigh on perfect success rate.

Now whether this is because they are subconciously picking up on traits in the chick too small to notice, I don't know. Using a pendulum is also a form of dowsing - again, some aspects of dowsing appear to work - look at the use of it in mining / water divning / mine detection - so I think there might be something to some aspects of using a pendulum to amplify subconcious information.

ANything else - I don't know.

Whilst on the subject of the paranormal, would anyone on the Forum be interested in trying to set up a 'remote viewing' experiment?

Joe

Pseudonym
15-09-2005, 07:06
Originally posted by JoeP
Whilst on the subject of the paranormal, would anyone on the Forum be interested in trying to set up a 'remote viewing' experiment?
Sounds interesting... I'm curious...

DragonofAna
15-09-2005, 07:41
I have really strong sceptisism concerning the yes/no thing of pendulums. It does not help that the only thing a pendulum does for me is wiggle about on the end of the chain, moving neither to and fro, nor in circles.

It does not help either that I can see a persons hand moving in the direction the pendulum moves.

However - rather than the yes/no thing ... I watched an episode of charmed a while back and they used a pendulum to locate someone using a map. I have tried this numerous times with some success. The thing is - I have had ass many failures so it proves little in the actual accuracy of pendulums. My belief or disbelief shall remain shelved for the time being.

Dragon

lizzmobile
15-09-2005, 14:54
I am always happy to discuss these things, but just to share with you that I have one friend in particular, a very dear friend (but spiritually unaware, let's say) who I love very much, and when I hold a pendulum over her image in a photo (any photo) the pendulum stays stock still. If I hold it over other people in the same photo, it swings. Also, when I send reiki to her, it comes back to me, and that has only ever happened with her. Bizzoire (sic).

We used the chicken-sexing method with a wedding ring when I was expecting my tinkies, it was right both times. Boy, then girl. Was right for my chum too.

We've also used it over land that we have been wanting to buy and it said no each time, and we've subsequently found out that it was marshy/subsidence prone etc.

Slightly off topic but anyway, I was reading somewhere t'other day, that people who have some sort of spiritual belief/experience are on the whole happier than those who don't.

As for enlightenment, it has many facets but I like to see it as a time when you can function as a human being in society without piddly little things getting to you (not getting bent out of shape by someone cutting you up in traffic, FOR EXAMPLE) and not getting caught up in the whole he-said/she-said thing and seeing your journey through life as an enriching experience, where you can learn from everything that happens to you, not something to be whinged about. Where you take responsibility for your actions AND your thoughts (seeing as nobody else puts them there for you).

We are going through a s**t time at present with various things, and still managing to perceive it all as a gateway rather than hell on earth.

Lizzmo'
(Where did all THAT come from?)

lizzmobile
15-09-2005, 15:00
Ooops, stuck that last bit on the wrong thread. :loopy:

fyybj
15-09-2005, 15:14
Originally posted by Susana
Can anyone give me any information about using pendulums. Is it a load of bunkum or do they really work for divination purposes? We've been experimenting at work and have come up with some strange results: for instance - everyone in the office asked the same specific question and all except one person got the same answer. Do we believe the majority or the minority, or do we dismiss it as a load of twaddle. How is the pendulum influenced and is there a scientific explanation?

Google for "Ideomotor" for theories as to how this works. Also, try the same experiments but blindfolded and see what results you get.

Litha
15-09-2005, 15:42
My pendulum is a very cute amethyst one, i did have a quartz but my little lad accidently dropped it :(
some people beleive it to be spirit/the universal energy/their angels or spirit guides or even their own unconcious mind that moves the pendulum. it doesnt matter what you beleive as long as you just trust that *something* is moving it. The more you work with your pendulum the better the results will be. they dont just swing one way for yes and another for no, they work differently for different people. the first thing you should do is to cleanse your pendulum. this can be done in a few different ways
either bury it in sea salt or earth for 24 hours
leave it out in the full moon and then the sunlight for 24 hours
wash it under natural running water ( not the tap)
smudge it over incense smoke ( sage is very good for this, but i love frankensence and use it loads )
then you have to ask it to show you yes ( note which way it spins) ask the same for no and the same for cant answer at this time or dont know ( or what ever you can relate to)

a very quick and easy way to do abit of healing is to have some one lay down put the pendulum over each chakra one at a time if the pendulum starts doing funny movements not nice smooth circles then that chakra is out of sync and could be causing some sort of illness, if so put an apropriete crystal on that chakra for a while to re energise it.

ive had people tell me they dont beleive and think the pendulum is a load of twaddle but then ive asked as a child did they ever remember older members of the family taking off their wedding rings and putting it on a chain or peice of cotton then swinging it over a pregnant ladies tummy to see if it was a girl or a boy........ so many people had , yet hadnt thought this was twoddle ;)

Litha
15-09-2005, 15:55
inccidently i use dowsing rods too, this is just one of the times i used it...
my friend had asked me to go take a look in her house as she thought she had either been cursed or there was a spook or something she wasnt sure what she was trying to say be WAS sure a particuler part of her house felt odd. so i went in with my rods and starting at the front door began walking round, the rods started going bezerk as we got towards a wardrobe the closer i got the more mad they went.


it turned out there was no curse, bo ghost or anything spooky.
what there was were the books from her business a few years previus when it was in a very bad state and she didnt have the money to put stock on her shelves. it was these giving off the negative energy. also round the house the rods picked up on a broken hair dryer/ printer and a hoover that when i asked if it was broken she was adiment it was working fine but later came round to tell me that yes it was infact broke :D

i used to hide 50p's in our house and my little lad caould always find them with the dowsing rods :clap:

Tony
07-11-2007, 19:02
I know of an American lady, incredibly wealthy, the sole inheritor of an oil fortune of immense proportions. She bought various natural energy crystals, including one that was the biggest in the world, something like 5/6 feet across. She filled her house with new age symbols, chanted, practiced yoga, follwed her id and had a house built so that her bed faced the ancient sacred mountain on an ancient sacred isle.

She died of cancer in her early 50's.


Save your money.

Heyesey
07-11-2007, 19:32
Sound advice, Tony, but you still win this month's Megatherium award for digging up the most fossilized thread ;)

Tony
07-11-2007, 19:35
Well chuff me! That came up on the new threads list. Spooky! ;)