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tango2
05-03-2004, 18:01
Hi folks im after abit of advice regarding cats....Im thinking of buying a cat,but not sure where to get one from.

Can I get one from any butchers shop,or just the supermarket ones?.
Can you buy whole ones,or do they come in pieces?

I would also like cooking instructions as well,as im not sure how to cook one.


Thanks

saxon51
05-03-2004, 18:05
Save yourself a few bob T2, and go for a roadkill. Comes ready ironed!

tango2
05-03-2004, 18:22
Ill look out for some at work then.

Fletch
05-03-2004, 19:21
thats a bit evil!!

saxon51
05-03-2004, 19:25
Unsavoury, not evil.

Sam Miguel
05-03-2004, 19:33
I think you need to speak to a good catographer. Someone who can guide you in the right direction - you know, give you expert advice.

Don't go cheap. Take my advice, you get what you pay for.

I have a wonderful recipe:

Tender noisettes of prime domestic cat (formerly known as Pickles) and served in a rich tomato salsa and finished with chilli and ginger.

Would you care to see it?

robh
05-03-2004, 19:56
Don't waste your money, it tastes like mutton.

saxon51
05-03-2004, 20:24
As a cat-lover (I have five) I recommend you avoid the tongue. I know where they've been.

tango2
05-03-2004, 21:17
Originally posted by Sam Miguel
I think you need to speak to a good catographer. Someone who can guide you in the right direction - you know, give you expert advice.

Don't go cheap. Take my advice, you get what you pay for.

I have a wonderful recipe:

Tender noisettes of prime domestic cat (formerly known as Pickles) and served in a rich tomato salsa and finished with chilli and ginger.

Would you care to see it?

Sounds nice I will give it a try,are the ginger ones ok or is it better to stick with a good old fashioned tabby?

with garlic or without?

robh
06-03-2004, 00:10
Detailed instructions here http://neil.franklin.ch/Usenet/alt.ascii-art/20000109_Cooking_With_John

From which my favourite quote: "there's more than one way to skin a cat".

t020
06-03-2004, 00:13
Not funny AT ALL.

spook
06-03-2004, 00:18
Originally posted by markham
I recommend you avoid the tongue. I know where they've been.

:D :D :D :D :D :thumbsup:

Very very very true!

tango2
06-03-2004, 08:38
Originally posted by t020
Not funny AT ALL.


WARNING LACK OF SENSE OF HUMOUR ALERT


Is it ok to use a scummer (underclass cat), or a single parent cat.
This would solve the joyriding and cat burglar problem for sure.

I mean,look at the facts...they have been fitting cats to cars for years now.

Joking aside,I like cats...they make excellent slippers.

saxon51
06-03-2004, 08:42
Cat lover here who ain't offended tango2.

As far as slippers are concerned, try finding two matching ones.

Lighten up everyone.

tango2
06-03-2004, 08:54
Yes matching them up can be a problem....however I have seen a nice white one on Longley Av,quite a large one so it should provide a hearty snack and a pair of matching white slipper to boot.

I will be out later armed with my Cat-o-pult

saxon51
06-03-2004, 11:46
Has it got 2 heads t2? The kiddy slippers on sale in Jonathon James have a head on each slipper, and they match.

You are joking here though aren't you t2????? Just checkin'.

max
06-03-2004, 11:54
They make excellent draught excluders.

tango2
06-03-2004, 12:23
Originally posted by markham
Has it got 2 heads t2? The kiddy slippers on sale in Jonathon James have a head on each slipper, and they match.

You are joking here though aren't you t2????? Just checkin'.

Hmmm best I look for another one then.......lol

chezlyn
06-03-2004, 14:26
You're all totally loony!!!!

saxon51
06-03-2004, 14:38
Originally posted by chezlyn
You're all totally loony!!!!

FORUM = For Obvious Reasons, Unbelievable Mentality

Now what were we saying about cats?

Oh yeah, why has that cat coming through the cat flap only got one eye? My mistake,.......its going OUT!!!!

tango2
06-03-2004, 16:12
Talking of cats,there is something seriously wrong with this sweet and sour chicken.......if you get my drift.

Fletch
06-03-2004, 16:18
Originally posted by max
They make excellent draught excluders.

that is very true Max.

I find the heat hogging against the radiator a bit annoying though

Sam Miguel
06-03-2004, 16:39
I once had a lovely pot on my garden wall full of beautiful flowers such as begonias and petunais. It looked fantastic until next door's cat knocked it off the wall. Luckily it didn't break.

Anyway, two or three days later, the cat did the same thing again cheesing me off completely.

I went round to the neighbour's house. "Your cat keeps knocking my pot off my wall!" I complained. "You should keep it under control!"

"Well nail it to the wall, then!" he snorted slamming the door in my face.

Well that was it. He wasn't very pleased when I did what he said, the cat made some horrible blood-curdling noises as the nails went in.

karl2784
09-03-2004, 16:50
from the RSPCA!:) they give good advice too!!

wibbles
10-03-2004, 10:17
Its not an offensive post..It's just crap..and unfunny.....huh huh..do you like cats...well I couldn't eat a whole one...ho ho ho. Suprised you didn't use that one!!

saxon51
10-03-2004, 19:04
Don't need to now cos you've just used it.

little malc
12-03-2004, 12:04
Just proves what i've known for years, all fella's love a little pussy.

tango2
13-03-2004, 14:16
Originally posted by wibbles
Its not an offensive post..It's just crap..and unfunny.....huh huh..do you like cats...well I couldn't eat a whole one...ho ho ho. Suprised you didn't use that one!!


Oh yes its crap,and unfunny.......hmmmmm but you still felt the need to contribute.

spook
19-06-2004, 18:30
Hi Guys

Advice needed from other cat owners!

We've had Zippy, a female cat for nearly 2 years and we've had her she was a kitten. She is a very loving cat and likes a bit of fuss but is also happy to do her own thing.

Up until the end of last year she used to knock about with another cat who belonged to a neighbour and was a similar age to her, they used to go off together, play and generally keep each other company. However then the other cat disappeared and hasn't been seen since :(

Zippy seemed to pine for a time and although she is independent I'm sure sometimes she gets bored (both me and the missus work full time). Added to this she seems to get fairly regularly beaten up by the other cats in the neighbourhood :mad:

So we decided that what was needed was another cat to keep Zippy company, so earlier this week we got Disco an 8 week old female kitten. Disco is very playful and not intimidated by Zippy at all but Zippy doesn't want to know, she just growls and hisses at her.

I appreciate that Zippy was here first and it's her terrority but we both thought that she might take to the little un.

Don't get me wrong there hasn't been any fighting and I've been careful to make sure Zippy gets lots of fuss but since Disco's arrival she's had the right hump.

Can anyone suggest any way for Zippy to accept Disco? Ultimately if there's no improvement after a month I think Disco will have to go.

Suggestions please!

Sam Miguel
19-06-2004, 18:44
Cats are very choosy creatures, and I fear you may have to let Disco go. Don't wait too long though.

Titian
19-06-2004, 18:56
we had a similar problem with our two cats. They both get on fine now. It did take some time.

max
19-06-2004, 18:56
You could try putting butter on the kitten and trying to persuade the older one to clean her. Alternatively, ring the cat shelter for advice:

Sheffield Cats Shelter (http://www.thesheffieldcatsshelter.org/index.html)

They know everything about cats and homing them.

Tony
19-06-2004, 19:13
They should get used to each other - they will have no choice! Zippy is just asserting her place in the pecking order. If she really didn't like Disco she would be clouting her. :D

Patience!

noseyrosie
19-06-2004, 19:20
We've done this loads of times. DOn't worry, old cat always hates new cat, a) because they're invading their territory, and b)kittens and new pets often get more attention, sooo....

Pay lots and lots of attention to old cat, and the two will soon start to get along :)

JoeP
19-06-2004, 19:52
It took Jarvis a while to tolerate Kizzy, who was bought in as a stray needing a home. At least a month - probably 3 or 4 months. They still have their moments several years later, but on the whole they're cool. They'll share the bottom of the bed....

Now Jarvis bought Tom home with him and they were fine but Kizzy objected to Tom for again a month to 6 weeks. Poor old Tom passed on last year but the three of them had settled quite nicely - to the '3 on the bed' stage.

The weirdest incomer we had was Amber, who just turned up as an old, sick cat. At that time we had Tom, Kizzy and Jarvis and all of them were fine with her - she was clearly old and no threat.

I assume Disco isn't neutered. If things settle down, Zippy will have another challenge when Disco matures a little, as an un-neutered cat seems to have a higher point in the pecking order than a neutered cat of either sex, so take care for the period of (relative) sexual maturity that will preceed having Disco neutered.

Joe

beckb
19-06-2004, 21:03
Our older cat Saffy did not take kindly to arrival of our adopted kitten Blaze. There was lots of spitting and hissing and the occaisional swipe of a paw. Nine months ago Saffy wouldn't even be in the same room as Blaze, now they can eat side by side but only just tolerate each other. Its getting better, slowly!

A friend of mine suggested putting the new one in a cat basket and letting the other one sniff and have a look whilst its contained and therefore no threat.

Squiggs
20-06-2004, 08:10
if it's only "earlier this week" then there's no real cause for concern yet. It takes a while, just as it takes a while sometimes for people to get used to each other.

Cortica
20-06-2004, 09:11
I'm sure everything will be fine. The hissing and spitting will slowly subside and even if they don't become the best of friends, they will be able to coexist together.

Try having them in the same room and wait till they've settled down, then go and pat each of them in turn, so that they see that you're comfortable with both of them and aren't taking sides.

Just think of it like a cat tantrum that they will eventually get over.

Feeding them together can help them get over it, food gives them a reason to accept being in each other's space.

If that doesn't work then you can try something else - the cats will hate you for it and it sounds horrible but it really works. Once the cats are comfortable being in the same room as each other (and not before otherwise they might feel threatened), tie a tea towel loosely around their stomach just before their back legs (you can practice with them individually) and it has a weird effect on their balance so they just sit there until you take the tea towell off. You can sit them far away from each other and slowly bring them closer...... like reluctant little furry garden gnomes. It doesn't hurt them at all, aside from their dignity, but expect to be ignored for a few hours afterwards.

I hope nobody thinks that's a terribly cruel suggestion...

pauline
20-06-2004, 13:26
i think you should give it longer,i have 2 elderly cats and ended up with a kitten,they tolerate each other and we have the occasional spitting and swiping,but they wont let any other cat do it,they seem to pack,it could take a while.

hj dary
20-06-2004, 14:00
We have had a similar problem with Mildy and Socks.

The advice we were given was to have a good fuss of the new cat, getting lots of there scent on your hands then go to the other cat and give it a good fuss. Keep doing it .

The idea is that you transfer the scent's and it helps them get used to each other.

It seemed to work for us, but two year on they appear to tolorate each other rather than love each other.

Good luck.

If it all goes belly up and you need to find a home for Disco send me a pm.

parcher
20-06-2004, 15:12
I have had dozens of cats over the past 25 years or so. At the moment, I have 5 cats, aged from 17 down to 2, all introduced at different times and at different ages. They all sort themselves out, given time.

The two youngest (Poppy and Hanni) became inseparable (that took a couple of weeks), Mozart and Robin, the middle two are a bit more complicated in that Mozart will be friends with anyone (including nipping in next door to be with their cats) whereas Robin avoids Mozart like the plague. Mozart and Dora, the oldest are also complicated in that they are okay as long as they don't look at each other, this being a challenge, but at night they cheerfully share the same bed (mine!).

Just treat them equally and leave them to swear at each other, until they sort out which one is underdog (or cat) and whose territory is whose.

wibbles
21-06-2004, 08:11
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you did loads of research into introducing a new cat to a home with an existing cat because if not then it is damn irresponsible to go out and buy a new kitten only to have to take it back in a few weeks time just because you went all gooey eyed over a cute kitten that you haven't introduced properly to the house.

noseyrosie
21-06-2004, 14:16
What's done is done, but we have always reduced the tension by keeping new kitten in one room of those hpuse alone fo maybe 3 weeks, and not letting it contact the other cat(s). Then the kitten is used to its environment by the time they meet. :thumbsup:

sarah_d
21-06-2004, 15:25
I asked my colleague and her advice is to make sure you feed them in separate bowls,feeding Zippy first and also put Zippy in a room on her own for an hour or a two a day so she can have some time to herself.

spook
21-06-2004, 18:14
Thanks to everyone for their helpful replies, you'll be pleased to know that although not friends, things are improving. Zippy is tolerating Disco being in the same room and they will eat at the same time, although obviously they have seperate food and water.
We've both been careful to make a lot of fuss over Zippy and not push her out.

So thanks to everyone, except this...

Originally posted by wibbles
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you did loads of research into introducing a new cat to a home with an existing cat because if not then it is damn irresponsible to go out and buy a new kitten only to have to take it back in a few weeks time just because you went all gooey eyed over a cute kitten that you haven't introduced properly to the house.

wtf? :loopy:

tara
01-07-2004, 10:08
glad you sorted it without getting rid of disco.
my two cats sassy and suki are sisters from the same litter,
one is jet black and one is fluffy tortoishell.
years ago before they were spayed,they each had a litter
and the black ones babies were all tortoishell -(probably wrong spelling)and the tortoishell's babies were all black.

even now they sometimes claw each other and hiss,and theyre real sisters.

PIF_Tails
09-07-2004, 23:08
Spook,

I know your cats are getting on now but I thought I would post this article on introducing cats in case it helps some one else
http://www.piftails.com/introducingnewcat.html

kittykat
11-07-2004, 17:35
Our 2 kitties never got on and never will get on with one another. Its quite entertaining to watch and they never properly hurt one another. Its been like this for years now. We had visions of them curling up together side by side but alas this wasnt to be,

Im off to spread butter on the white un now. Muhahaha... sounds like fun to me....