What quirks, habits, customs, slang, etc. mark you out as a Sheffielder?
What has Sheffield got that other places haven't?
What's good about being a Sheffielder?
Can you become a Sheffielder? How long do you have to live here? What habits/speech do you have to adopt?

What marks Sheffield, and Sheffielders, out from the rest of the crowd?

Laura,
curious

Originally posted by "senseofplace"

What has Sheffield got that other places haven't?


Big city amenities with countryside on the doorstep

what makes me a sheffielder?

my accent :lol: and the fact i was born and raised in this fine city :D

:lol:
That's a different topic somewhere, isn't it?
Come on, apart from that (huge) factor.

Laura,
smiling and shaking head

Nothing. I'm Leicester through and through.

Originally posted by "mikey"

What has Sheffield got that other places haven't?


Big city amenities with countryside on the doorstep

Well Analysed. Spot on there, I agree.

Originally posted by "senseofplace"


Can you become a Sheffielder?

Of course you can, but you must obey and quote the following to all you come into contact with.

1. Sheffield is the 3rd Largest City (London, Birmingham, Sheffield)
2. Sheffield is the superior city in Yorkshire
3. Hendersons is the best sauce in the World
4. The Peak District is the best countyside in the World
5. Sheffield has the best Ice Hockey team in the UK
6. Sheffield has the best Basketball team in the UK
7. The majority of Sheffielders do not wear Flat caps - thats Leeds
8. The majority of Sheffielders do not race pigeons or have Whippets - thats Leeds
9. Yorkshire Puddings were invented in Sheffield and are the best food in the world.
10. The Romans copied Sheffield when it builts its city on 7 hills

Of course you can, but you must obey and quote the following to all you come into contact with.

1. Sheffield is the 3rd Largest City (London, Birmingham, Sheffield)
2. Sheffield is the superior city in Yorkshire
3. Hendersons is the best sauce in the World
4. The Peak District is the best countyside in the World
5. Sheffield has the best Ice Hockey team in the UK
6. Sheffield has the best Basketball team in the UK
7. The majority of Sheffielders do not wear Flat caps - thats Leeds
8. The majority of Sheffielders do not race pigeons or have Whippets - thats Leeds
9. Yorkshire Puddings were invented in Sheffield and are the best food in the world.
10. The Romans copied Sheffield when it builts its city on 7 hills

LMAO That is my husband through and through - but then he was born and raised here.

My friend in my home town of Barnsley say I am no longer a Barnsleyite because "I speak posh". But then my husband and his family say I am not a proper Sheffielder because I cannot say Car properly??? Also I do not know what a teacake is???

Go Figure.

Moon Maiden

So sorry!

2. Sheffield is the superior city in Yorkshire

Actually, that is Leeds...

...and you don't know how much it hurts me to admit this[/siz]

Originally posted by "Moon Maiden"

But then my husband and his family say I am not a proper Sheffielder because I cannot say Car properly??? Also I do not know what a teacake is???
How are you supposed to say car? And how could you not know what a teacake is?

How are you supposed to say car?

Well, there's Ka (my car - posh) and Care (me care - not posh)

We also cut the Grass in Sheffield ( as in ass)
not the Grass (as in Graws)

Off to have bath now not a Bawth

Originally posted by "Sidla"

But then my husband and his family say I am not a proper Sheffielder because I cannot say Car properly??? Also I do not know what a teacake is???
How are you supposed to say car? And how could you not know what a teacake is?

i think its kaa and not carr

5. Sheffield has the best ice hockey team in the UK

Spot on mate, spot on!!!!!!
Chloé *praying this quote works*

It worked, just the wrong way! LOL

fixed it you :wink:

Thanking you kindly!
Chloé

Originally posted by "senseofplace"

What quirks, habits, customs, slang, etc. mark you out as a Sheffielder?


Use of the word mardy
Do not think this is in the dictionary

To sulk, act as though upset

Originally posted by "mikey"


Can you become a Sheffielder?

Of course you can, but you must obey and quote the following to all you come into contact with.

1. Sheffield is the 3rd Largest City (London, Birmingham, Sheffield)


Er.....no it isn't!

Manchester, leeds, Glasgow (if we are talking UK here)

Sheffield is apparently the greenist city in England though

See thread http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=889 for further dicussion on this.

But mine was tongue in cheek to show the pride in Sheffield, but I do believe it is bigger than Manchester or Leeds, not Glasgow though.

TTFN

AFAIK it's a corruption of the word maudlin, which means weak, overly sentimental, moody. In some places still spelled maudy, still used in most english speaking countries. Maudlin, maudy, mardy.
Interesting to note that according to many linguists, Yorkshire dialect is one of the closest to Old English in Britain. Which is supposedly why the US and Aust still use some words we consider archaic, and why they say bath instead of barth - they took the language away and it wasn't subject to the same influences as it was in London/SE.

Apologies if that was too tedious :)

Laura,
ready to go home to my sofa now please

We use mardy in Leicester.

Originally posted by "Sidla"

We use mardy in Leicester.

They're all bonkers in Leicester.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?M1A926464

Beam me up Scotty!

Nomme

I remember reading about that house a while back. I'd like to find out where it is because I only live about 5 miles from Hinckley, I could go and have a look...

Originally posted by "senseofplace"


Apologies if that was too tedious :)



Not at all, I thought it was a made up word, used just around here

Originally posted by "mikey"



But mine was tongue in cheek to show the pride in Sheffield, but I do believe it is bigger than Manchester or Leeds, not Glasgow though.

TTFN

Manchester's city boundary is actually quite small, because its surrounded by a few other towns and cities, such as Salford. It's only when people talk of Greater Manchester when it's bigger, but it unfairly includes many other towns.

It would be like having a 'Greater Sheffield', which includes Dronfield, Rotherham, Barnsley and so on. Such an act would bug the hell out of these people and, living in Manchester, bugs the hell out of me. I don't like having my town linked with dumps like Oldham, Rochdale and Bolton. Sorry, but these towns are just absolute holes.

How long do you have to live here before becoming a Sheffielder? Doe thirty years count?

nope, yor either are or your not :)

and if you need to ask, you're not :))

Ey up sury, what the bludy ell thar on abaht nah, orl on uz no escafeld is tops on em all, tha shunt av t ask sich daft qwestons.

Originally posted by "Jess"

How long do you have to live here before becoming a Sheffielder? DoeS thirty years count?

I reckon it's a state o' mind mate. If you feel that you've adopted Sheffield as tha 'ome town like. Then thats all that counts innit.
Dunt matter 'ow long tha's lived 'ere, just when you've adopted'place.

Goo on, change thi accent laddo! :lol: :lol: :lol:

moved now but alot of people look at me funny when i say 'al reight' insted of all right. take the people outa sheff but not the sheff outa the people and all that haha. miss the place alot. but still real rough out there. some parts anyway

Originally posted by mikey
Use of the word mardy
Do not think this is in the dictionary

To sulk, act as though upset

I'm from Lancashire and grew up hearing mardy too so maybe it's northern rather than Lancashire or Yorkshire??

I've lived in Sheffield for 8 years and I think I'm on my way to becoming a Sheffielder. Only I like being a Lancashire lass too...

I say right now instead of really (I'm right cold)

I call myself nesh :)

I sometimes say loppy

And when I talk to people who I haven't spoken to for a while they say I'm getting a Sheffield accent.

I lived for 18 years in Lancashire, grew up there. But I virtually never go back.

BUT I maintain it is a BARMCAKE...

I dunno what I am.

Argh identity crisis!!!

Originally posted by senseofplace

Interesting to note that according to many linguists, Yorkshire dialect is one of the closest to Old English in Britain. Which is supposedly why the US and Aust still use some words we consider archaic, and why they say bath instead of barth - they took the language away and it wasn't subject to the same influences as it was in London/SE.


Hey, leave Aust out of this one. We can make enough mistakes, but we still say 'Barth". Well, I don't, I still use the South Yorkshire 'bath'.

But, in reference to an earlier post, in Aust, the stuff growing on the front garden is not grass(as in ass), not graws, but grars.

Sorry if I have got off subject, but had to mention this.:D

Originally posted by DaBouncer
I reckon it's a state o' mind mate. If you feel that you've adopted Sheffield as tha 'ome town like. Then thats all that counts innit.
Dunt matter 'ow long tha's lived 'ere, just when you've adopted'place.

Goo on, change thi accent laddo! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hey, its real good reading proper English as its sposed to be.

I rang my cousin in Bromsgrove last night and she said "You don't sound a bit like Yorkshire, you sound real Ozzie", and I was bloody mad about that.

Originally posted by senseofplace
What quirks, habits, customs, slang, etc. mark you out as a Sheffielder?
What has Sheffield got that other places haven't?
What's good about being a Sheffielder?
Can you become a Sheffielder? How long do you have to live here? What habits/speech do you have to adopt?

What marks Sheffield, and Sheffielders, out from the rest of the crowd?

Laura,
curious

Men calling each other "love".

Originally posted by tslogf74
Men calling each other "love".

Sheffield men? I think not!

my girlfriend has been living here for nearly 3 yrs and calls sheffield "home" she's from southampton, it's like a different country down there. What makes a sheffielder? the ablilty to talk to a comlpete stranger in any given situation. down south it'd earn you a thick lip.

If youre a proper Sheffielder try this test....

Gioer naa tha munt go lakin ont jenil als thalbi mopin abaat allneyt wen yer skinsyersen ont coursyej enil crack yerraand lugs n thil bi no tey forthi - then thal bimardy.


And the Americans think that they do phonetics... Pah! :D

Originally posted by Moon Maiden
LMAO That is my husband through and through - but then he was born and raised here.

Moon Maiden

Ah that shows that youre not a local MM - everyone in Sheffield is "booan n fetched up" :)

Originally posted by tslogf74
Men calling each other "love".

Hey what kind of men do you talk to ? in 37 years I have never had a man call me love,and have no desire to be called love by them thankyou very much.

Pal,mucker and mate will do for me

When you can remember the hole in the road!

and eating cockles in the sheaf market off those little dishes...

and travelling around the city for 2p on the buses... for no good reason!

and when you can understand Tony :P

using the following may also identify you as a Sheffielder:

breadcake (for bap or bun)
while (when you mean until)
gennel/gennil (alley)

Personally I also find that when Sheffield is criticised I sometimes get offended. Maybe this is a sign of a true Sheffielder ?

Indeed it is mate.

I used to live in Grimsby at a residential college, which was actually predominantly populated by North and East Londoners as well as residents of back-of-beyond small towns in Lincolnshire, and the AMOUNT of stick I got for my accent, which admittedly I deliberately toned down in those days, I would always take offense as well, and some times a swing at them with my fists, not that I condone that kind of thing, know worra me'an?!

It is a sore point to me though, that Southerners, particularly Londoners, feel the need to ridicule anything further North than probably Birmingham... That whole North vs South traditional feud thing got old like CENTURIES ago IMO.

Originally posted by tango2
Hey what kind of men do you talk to ? in 37 years I have never had a man call me love,and have no desire to be called love by them thankyou very much.


Ive heard more and more blokes calling each over love recently, even my media tutor :lol: (but then again, hes from deepest darkest lowestoft :P )

what really gets my goat is the the sickening superiority of some Southerners. If it were all like it is down there what an unpleasant place Sheffield and this great Island would be to live !!

I've lived in Wales, Germany and Italy and have been travelling round most of Europe for the past 6 years but it's always nice to come home

Originally posted by RPG
Ive heard more and more blokes calling each over love recently, even my media tutor :lol: (but then again, hes from deepest darkest lowestoft :P )
This is cause for great concern. It appears that our dialect is being infiltrated with colloquialisms from Derbyshire where they call each other "Duck" as well as "Love" - and as know all the men wear ladies underwear :wow:

I met a woman in London over xmas who didn't actually know where Sheffield was :rolleyes:

I met a woman in London over xmas who didn't actually know where Sheffield was

Not surprising... doesn't the World end north of Watford? ;)

Yup, anything further North than Watford Gap Motorway services just doesn't exist as far as they're concerned.

Pfft... and they think we Northerners are stupid :P

Originally posted by Rich
Yup, anything further North than Watford Gap Motorway services just doesn't exist as far as they're concerned.

Pfft... and they think we Northerners are stupid :P

LOL... I think that's a bit too subtle for this forum Rich :lol: :D ;)

Am I a rare breed? I have been living in Sheffield since Sept 2001, originally living in Southampton all my life. When I was living down South I knew exactly where Sheffield was on the map. I definately think living up North is much better than down South.

What's all this southern bashing then?

Of course southerners take the p*ss out of you yorkshire folk coz you can't talk proper and you all wear flat caps and own whippets. It's no different to the people up here taking the p*ss out of my cockney accent, saying I'm posh (must mean something different up here) and claiming I only drink shandy.

You may be right though about many Londoners not knowing where anywhere else is - my missus for example. When we put our house in London up for sale the estate agent asked her where we were going to live. At the time I had suggested Matlock, so that's what she said. When he asked where Matlock was she got a bit flustered as she wasn't sure! So she says "Do you know Northampton?". "Yes" he says. "Well... " she says, "it's about an hour and a half from there". This was the time I told her it would take to get from Matlock to her best friends house in Northampton and was all she could think of to say!

Typical shandy drinking cockney southerner - no sense of humour ;)

Originally posted by Sidla
How are you supposed to say car? And how could you not know what a teacake is?

Teacakes are what we call breadcakes in the rest of the world.
They call teacakes current buns and breadcakes baps.

Go figure.

Also we call fishcakes - fishcakes elsewhere in south yourkshire they say sheffield fishcakes on the coast (lincolnshire) they say yorkshire fishcakes.

Rich i am from Grimsby too, been here 12 years now. And love the place so guess that possibly makes me a Sheffielder now.
Remember the hole in road, but still buy buns not breadcakes but do slip up sometimes.
Mardy was a word in our house but my Grandma was from Wath so i guess i had some in me already.
My Dad reckons i speak with a right Yorkshire accent now, so i must be almost local. I'm now the one he takes the p*ss out of on Cleethopres front along with the holidaymakers/visitors.

Originally posted by jubby
Teacakes are what we call breadcakes in the rest of the world.
They call teacakes current buns and breadcakes baps.
Breadcakes?!?! Trush me, they don't have them anywhere else except northern England!

Are you talking about a bread roll? Us sophisticated southerners prefer chibatta or panini you know! ;)

To be a Sheffielder is to feel slightly misunderstood.

You look at the BBC weather map, and wonder what Norwich has that we don't.

Originally posted by jackthedog

You look at the BBC weather map, and wonder what Norwich has that we don't.

I guess we just don't cut the mustard.

Nomme

Originally posted by nomme
I guess we just don't cut the mustard.

Nomme

Groan!! :D

Originally posted by Mike
I met a woman in London over xmas who didn't actually know where Sheffield was :rolleyes:

I have lived in Sheffield for about 25 years having moved here from Essex and I love the place, I won't hear or say a bad word about it. But being fair ignorance is not confined to London I have lost count of the Sheffielders I have met during this time who have no knowledge of anywhere in the country outside of Sheffield. To most Sheffielders anyone from south of Leicester is a cockney and any town more than an hour south of Sheffield is automatically in London.
I think you will find that ignorance is universal and not just a characteristic of Londoners. I was asked this one the other day " You're from London, how do I get to Hastings?" :rolleyes:

Fair point Grey Man.

I think Sheffield is about as far south as Northerners can get, so anything further down does seem very southern.

I spend a lot of time in Nottingham, and it does seem much more southern than Sheffield, despite being only 45 minutes away.

Seems more like an attitude thing than a geography thing.

It's the whole bl++dy country - I tell yer!

When I go back to Essex I'm treated like Nanook of the North and get asked some of the most ridiculous questions, like :

* Don't you get tired of all that snow? (even more stupid in August)
* How do you understand what they say? (from someone whose vocabulary is peppered with slang)
* Aren't the women up there rough - usually asked by someone called Tracy plastered in make-up and whose only experience of the north is Coronation Street
* Has anyone up there got a job?
* Must be nice to buy a house for less than 10 grand

and in Sheffield . . . .

* "The beer in London is sh++!"
"Where were you drinking?"
"Leicester Square is the usual reply - I resist the urge to scream "well what did you bl++dy expect Moron!"

* London is so expensive! (s'pose it is but who lives in Piccadilly Circus)

* "I hate London"
" Where did you go in London?"
"Watford"

* Londoners are all poofs (probably explains the high murder rate).

* Southern Softies (yea try walking through Dalston at night and shouting that out)

* Is it really like Eastenders? (about as similar as the north is to Coronation Street)

Isn't it great that a short distance between two major cities and we still have ignorance on a scale hard to believe - I LOVE IT!

We recently had a couple of (distant) relatives come to stay with us, who confessed that they were suprised to discover that our house wasn't a little back-to-back with a tin bath and communal loo! They seriously expected rows of smoking chimneys and cobbled streets!

No wonder it took em so long to come and visit us.

Sorry for my ignorance but I started a topic on Sheffield and local dialect without reading this first. I recently went round Canada and New york to see some friends I have there, I had a few problems explaining some of the sayings we have but it was all in good fun!

Yes, I'm with it now, too, duffman.

Isn't it funny how we are supposed to be 'Northern', but a quick glance at a map of the UK shows how central we really are?

Also, our accent is as much - if not more - akin to the North Derbyshire accent.

But then again we are on the Yorks/Derbs border.

Originally posted by mikey
1. Sheffield is the 3rd Largest City (London, Birmingham, Sheffield)
You missed out Manchester and Leeds.

What makes me a Sheffielder? The same circumstances that make me "English", or "British", or "European" - my parents dropped me out here, i didn't have much say in the matter.

Chris.

I'm from Newcastle so you can hardly get much more North than that. I wonder how those people in Berwick feel!

On that teacake 'issue', We say that all the time up here!

Adam

What is the Sheffield way of saying scone?? Coz i've heard it said both ways!

I've been addressed as "love" by tram conducters, barmen, all kinds of folk really since moving here. Of course, I can't guarantee that any of them were native Sheffielders - it just seems like a bit of a coincidence.

Originally posted by qazitory
What is the Sheffield way of saying scone?? Coz i've heard it said both ways!

It can, and is said both ways, but I prefer scones that rhyme wih stones.

Originally posted by purplepippa


I call myself nesh :)

BUT I maintain it is a BARMCAKE...


I thought nesh was a sheffield word, but have found it in the dictionary as meaning weak and feeble. Other point, barmcake is used in liverpool too.
it's strange, I've lived here for 5 years and consider it home, though i also consider Liverpool home too. Can i have a dual home?
I happen to think Sheffield rocks.

Originally posted by qazitory
What is the Sheffield way of saying scone?? Coz i've heard it said both ways!

Its pronoced s'one sounds similar to its gone my wife insists on s cone but her dad was from the south, and is from a middle class background. This issue always has a little friendly arguement everytime we buy or offer them. Wonder which way the likds will go??