Does anyone else get ****** off when people use the words to and too incorrectly also the use of the words off and of or is it me just being picky

i too get ****** off when this happens as most of the time you do not know what they;re trying to say!

Who is Miss use?

I don't like it when people confuse lose and loose

Miss use of to and too. off and of

You are right it can be a bit misleading. :thumbsup:


*whispers to pedro......its 'misuse' mate* :)

Originally posted by pedro1
Does anyone else get ****** off when people use the words to and too incorrectly also the use of the words off and of

no, life is too short.

i to get peed of when people get there words' wrong and you cant' understand if there meaning is something else that you dont understand becuase all the words used are not right and you end up confused about what they where trying too say in the thirst plaice!!!

I don't get annoyed by it, I just cant understand how they've slipped through the system of having it beaten into them?!?!
I remember doing worksheet after worksheet on words that sound and look alike which is probably why I don't tend to get them confused!

Recently my mate from uni asked me to go through her assignment and when I read through it, I was shocked to see that she'd made silly mistakes such as confusing "too" and "to"... How on earth are you supposed to tell your mate that their english stinks without sounding like a know-it-all, or offending them? (I did tell her, very carefully... as I dont want her marking down for bad english... bless her!)

Originally posted by Abdul
Who is Miss use?

LOL

When complaining about others' grammar it is often good to check the correctness of one's own post!

pedro1 I do know what you mean, but personally, I often get of-off, to-too, there-their wrong because I'm typing quickly. Not because I am unaware of the correct use of them!

when i do make such mistakes it is generally due to a mis-type rather than ignorance. live and let live i say.
also, i don't claim to be a language scholar, but is it not true that a language which fails to evolve soon becomes a dead language?

Abdul :thumbsup:

I don't get stressed about it as there are more important things to worry about. This is only an Internet forum. As long as we can communicate, then I can't see the problem. I wouldn't have a go at someone if their use of algebra wasn't perfect either.

The one that really annoys me is "should of" instead of "should have".

Originally posted by Preacher Man
i to get peed of when people get there words' wrong and you cant' understand if there meaning is something else that you dont understand becuase all the words used are not right and you end up confused about what they where trying too say in the thirst plaice!!!

Nice one Preach me old son, my pet hate as well is the use of 'their' 'there' and they're.:hihi: Some people just cannot get it right **coughs** psssss it should have been 'their' matey:thumbsup:

Originally posted by Abdul
Who is Miss use?

:clap: There's a crackin' name for a new female member:D

Originally posted by daverity
Nice one Preach me old son, my pet hate as well is the use of 'their' 'there' and they're.:hihi: Some people just cannot get it right **coughs** psssss it should have been 'their' matey:thumbsup:

I'm hoping he was extracting the urine, because I noticed a few badly placed apostrophes. Which makes me rather vexed.

Originally posted by TimmyR
I'm hoping he was extracting the urine, because I noticed a few badly placed apostrophes. Which makes me rather vexed.

I hope he was too! At least he doesn't type in text speak, now don't get me started on that :rant: :rant: :rant:

Ok then so what about when people write letters in that text language ( don`t know what they call it) My daughter once wrote a letter to a mate with words like b4 and m8 (mate) and lol. I made her write it out properly. I think that it should be kept to mobile phones. Anyone agree. Hope my spelling was correct abdul.

Originally posted by pedro1
Ok then so what about when people write letters in that text language ( don`t know what they call it) My daughter once wrote a letter to a mate with words like b4 and m8 (mate) and lol. I made her write it out properly. I think that it should be kept to mobile phones. Anyone agree. Hope my spelling was correct abdul.

LOL great minds think alike! psss capital A in Abdul, he'll get upset :hihi: :hihi:

wot u gis on abut? curs i was mesin!

u dont no nefin do u? r u vat dum??

an from a felo blu nos to!

l8r u peeps

Originally posted by Preacher Man
wot u gis on abut? curs i was mesin!

u dont no nefin do u? r u vat dum??

an from a felo blu nos to!

l8r u peeps

A fellow Bluenose? Sorry Preach with that display had you for a Tranmere fan, woolybacks and all that! Good lad now, I'll PM you 20 spellings to learn off by heart by Friday, I expect them to be perfect. There's a few of those nasty Kopites on this site I believe, don't want them thinking that they're better educated than us!:hihi: :hihi:

I used to work with a girl who couldn't differentiate between 'their', 'they're' and 'there'. Ironically she was someone's PA and her time at work mainly consisted of writing letters to important clients, I just hope someone checked stuff for her first! Bad grammar really winds me up though, and spelling too... We get emails at work sometimes that make my blood boil because people haven't bothered to check them first and send them out regardless... I'm sad I know hehe.

I hate the way the American media use a comma instead of the word 'and'. One confusing example I saw recently was "Gmail renamed Google Mail in Germany, UK"

My first thought was, "Since when has Germany been in the UK???" It took me several seconds to work out what was actually meant.

I get quite annoyed with people correcting other people's spelling to be honest.. its quite sad really!

There are better things to do with your time and lives.

I get annoyed, until I read back some of my posts.

I can't believe that I sometimes write there instead of their or they're. That the usual one I get wrong, I have no idea why. It must be because I'm saying it in my head, and I stop thinking once I've decided what to write, and just write the sound in my head.

So maybe some of the people you think don't know grammar just can't type and think at the same time, like me :)

surely by definition if they support the red ****e it shows a distinct lack of education?? ;)

tbh (are acronyms allowed), i couldnt care less about someones spelling unless its really, really bad (step forward and take a bow mz babes), as mine isnt great itself.

Im good at maths, which is quite handy for what I studied, but my english is quite poor in some areas. And i have to admit i dont know the uses for some basic words and my grammer is appaling.

Originally posted by ANGELUS
I get quite annoyed with people correcting other people's spelling to be honest.. its quite sad really!

There are better things to do with your time and lives.

I beg to differ Angelus, depending how it's done of course. The point is there's a wrong way and a right way of writing words and some people are just unaware, put the first thing that comes into their heads and think 'that'll do'. If by pointing out their error, you have taught them something then you have achieved something. I for one make typo errors frequently but the fact is a lot of the grammatical and spelling mistakes made by people in general life can be easily and politely pointed out. You are after all judged sometimes on what you produce on paper.

When should you use there and their? I get confused with that one. The wife tells me but i forget. Is their/there an easy way to remember?:)

Originally posted by daverity
I beg to differ Angelus, depending how it's done of course. The point is there's a wrong way and a right way of writing words and some people are just unaware, put the first thing that comes into their heads and think 'that'll do'. If by pointing out their error, you have taught them something then you have achieved something. I for one make typo errors frequently but the fact is a lot of the grammatical and spelling mistakes made by people in general life can be easily and politely pointed out. You are after all judged sometimes on what you produce on paper.

I disagree- no offence-

I dislike the way people like to 'belittle' people on here for how they spell on the forum in general.. we dont all have the best of educations like some of the more fortunate members on the forum.

The main thing for me is that people get their point across to other people on the forum- thats what its all about really.

This aint a spelling competition :)

Originally posted by ANGELUS
I disagree- no offence-

I dislike the way people like to 'belittle' people on here for how they spell on the forum in general.. we dont all have the best of educations like some of the more fortunate members on the forum.

The main thing for me is that people get their point across to other people on the forum- thats what its all about really.

This aint a spelling competition :)

No offence taken. I for one would never 'belittle' someone for a spelling or grammatical error because by doing it that way all you will do is get their back up. This is why the latter part of my previous post used the word politely.
I made an exception in Preacherman's case because I know that he's a fellow Evertonian and he is generally 'up for a laugh'.

This may 'only be a forum' as you say but why not try and do it right? If nothing else somebody may learn correct grammar and spelling from it or conversely the incorrect if it's badly done.

On occasions, I have to check written job applications and to be honest the standard of some of these leads me sometimes to fear for the standard of education that is being currently given in UK schools.

It's not a spelling competition, you're right but wherever possible we should use the correct form of our language.:)

Originally posted by pedro1
When should you use there and their? I get confused with that one. The wife tells me but i forget. Is their/there an easy way to remember?:)

I teach my class, here, there and everywhere, and then the one to do with people, has a person in it
their.
Using the apostrophe is a common mistake for plurals. I call it apostrophitis. It's just for omission or possession and sometimes used for quotation but then it's really a speech mark.

The grocer's apostrophe is my biggest pet hate.

Wilf

The grocer's apostrophe is my biggest pet hate.

Possessive of course.....

Originally posted by EdnaKrabappe
I teach my class, here, there and everywhere, and then the one to do with people, has a person in it
their.
Using the apostrophe is a common mistake for plurals. I call it apostrophitis. It's just for omission or possession and sometimes used for quotation but then it's really a speech mark.
Thanks for that it`s all so clear now

I hate the use of "of" instead of "have", e.g. "I could of". People who use English in such a way must lack the fundamental understanding of the language.

I also hate the use of "while" instead of "until", e.g. "Wait at the traffic lights while they're green". I realise this is a dialect thing but please try to understand that such misuse of the word "while" can cause confusion, as in the example above, and please try to understand the fundamental differences between the words "while" and "until".

Have to agree with T020 about 'while' instead of 'until'. Very confusing for us non Yorkshire folk. It took me some time to realise that when used in conjunction with traffic lights it means the opposite! I'm just surprised there haven't been more accidents :confused: :confused:

Working nine while five, what a way to make a living...

Anyway, I sat aghast one day when I read someone's post, which was rather long. Not only were there obvious spelling mistakes etc etc but they had managed to include not a single punctuation mark. It was what I would describe as brain vomit and was virtually incomprehensible.

I can't really get annoyed at the odd spelling mistake but when it gets that bad I wonder why we go to school.

i don't get annoyed about this whatsoever, people who post silly complainy threads annoy me a lot more

for me its what you say, not how you say it

anyway, on most occasions you can figure out what those quick typers mean anyway

Originally posted by pedro1
Does anyone else get ****** off when people use the words to and too incorrectly also the use of the words off and of or is it me just being picky

yeah i agree, quick typers and dislexics are a bunch of scumbags

The issue of while and until has been done to death on another thread where it was proved that Sheffield people give the words their old English meaning. It's the rest of the English speaking world who have forgotten what they really mean.

Originally posted by Preacher Man
i to get peed of when people get there words' wrong and you cant' understand if there meaning is something else that you dont understand becuase all the words used are not right and you end up confused about what they where trying too say in the thirst plaice!!!


You have since admitted that the above sentence was a wind-up. If so, you've hit the nail on the head.

I just think it's sloppy not to use the correct words and punctuation. Bad spelling is somewhat forgiveable but the constant misuse of words such as they're/their/there isn't.

And as others have said, I really hate the phrase 'I should of known' instead of the correct 'I should HAVE known'.

Further, there doesn't have to be any mispelling whilst typing on-line as you're a few clicks away from dictionaries and thesauruses and so on.

Originally posted by rocketpig
i don't get annoyed about this whatsoever, people who post silly complainy threads annoy me a lot more
Admittedly I wouldn't start a thread on it, but I do get annoyed by people making no effort to write properly. And quite rightly so, i think. I put in a hell of a lot of effort at school because the teachers kept drumming into us that we'd need to study hard and do well to get ahead in life. So I worked hard, and got bullied for it. And now when I see how people are talking years later it's like a slap in the face. "Thanks for making such an effort over the years, Rich - it wasn't worth it in the end. We lied to you."

Dodgy use of punctuation and silly spelling mistakes do irritate me because, well, I'm a pedant. I managed to grasp the basics of grammar, punctuation and spelling and I don't think it was that difficult. On a forum such as this, though, I usually just shrug my shoulders and move on. I can usually understand what the poster is trying to say.

On the other hand, I find it too much effort to read posts composed of blimmin' great paragraphs of text which have roughly two full stops and no commas.

Poor punctuation in more formal writing and on signs is just lazy and counter-productive. There's a shop at the end of my road called "City Kitchen's" [name changed slightly to protect the guilty!]. If it wasn't for the fact that I don't want to look slightly strange, I'd go in there and point out the error. It really irritates me every time I walk past it.

If people wish to spell incorrectly, then that is their choice. Its not going to have an impact on my life, so why should I be upset about it.

As long as I can understand what they are trying to say, then its all good. I have far more important things to worry about rather than giving a dam if someone has used 'while' instead of 'until', or if someone has used 'of' instead of 'have'. If you can understand it then whats the point in moaning?

Originally posted by RichD
So I worked hard, and got bullied for it. And now when I see how people are talking years later it's like a slap in the face. "Thanks for making such an effort over the years, Rich - it wasn't worth it in the end. We lied to you."

'Tis only spelling. :wink:

Chicken Monkey x

(Teachers is all big liar types anyhoo)

One thing I've noticed on this and other forums is the following I absolutley love **************, I think she is hillariuos (sorry bout the spelling!)

using this as a recent example (edited to protect users anonymity) increasingly you see that little addition in parentheses. For God's sake, the person posting obviously knows that they haven't spelt correctly, they even go so far as to outline it to you by attaching a caveat in brackets, why don't they just spellcheck it first or get a dictionary out before they hit the submit button? :gag: :gag:

Originally posted by daverity
One thing I've noticed on this and other forums is the following

using this as a recent example (edited to protect users anonymity) increasingly you see that little addition in parentheses. For God's sake, the person posting obviously knows that they haven't spelt correctly, they even go so far as to outline it to you by attaching a caveat in brackets, why don't they just spellcheck it first or get a dictionary out before they hit the submit button? :gag: :gag:

I wrote that quote you mentioned about Catherine Tate, and yes I know it was spelt wrong but I am at work so don't have a dictionary to hand and why the hell does it matter anyway, this is Sheffield Forum not and english essay! GET A LIFE

Originally posted by Hillsb_Honey
I wrote that quote you mentioned about Catherine Tate, and yes I know it was spelt wrong but I am at work so don't have a dictionary to hand and why the hell does it matter anyway, this is Sheffield Forum not and english essay! GET A LIFE

:hihi: :hihi: FIRST ONE TODAY (http://www.alpinewildernessretreat.com/images/Sunset%20Fishing.gif) :thumbsup:

I like the 'here there and everywhere' mnemonic to tell the difference between 'There' and 'Their'. Has anyone got anything similar to help me remember when to use 'affect' and when to use 'effect'? I usuall get the right one I think, but not without a few moments of indecision

Val

Originally posted by daverity
:hihi: :hihi: FIRST ONE TODAY (http://www.alpinewildernessretreat.com/images/Sunset%20Fishing.gif) :thumbsup:

Well done :clap:

I may have to join you in this fishing game, looks pretty good :hihi:

Daverity you are a T**T.

And Spyro2000 it's not funny.............

Well I suppose it is.

Originally posted by Hillsb_Honey
Daverity you are a T**T.

And Spyro2000 it's not funny.............

Well I suppose it is.

Hillsb **BIG FORUM HUG** Merry Christmas :thumbsup:

Thanks for that, I really needed a hug!!

Merry Chrimbo x:D

Originally posted by spyro2000
If people wish to spell incorrectly, then that is their choice. Its not going to have an impact on my life, so why should I be upset about it.

As long as I can understand what they are trying to say, then its all good. I have far more important things to worry about rather than giving a dam if someone has used 'while' instead of 'until', or if someone has used 'of' instead of 'have'. If you can understand it then whats the point in moaning?

Because it's INCORRECT. I presume you're an Aston Villa fan - how is life sat at the bottom of the Premiership? (*Waits to see if spyro "gives a damn" enough to correct me*).

Originally posted by t020
Because it's INCORRECT. I presume you're an Aston Villa fan - how is life sat at the bottom of the Premiership? (*Waits to see if spyro "gives a damn" enough to correct me*).

You wont catch me that easy, try some of Daveritys bait ;)

Another thing I despise is the joining of 2 obviously separate sentences with a comma. One of the reasons for this is probably that MS Word does not always pick up on the error. An example is:

"The forum takes ages to read, this is due to the amount of boring threads clogging it up."

Should be:

"The forum takes ages to read. This is due to the amount of boring threads clogging it up."

(I couldn't think of a 'good' example - in the above one would simply drop "this is" altogether".)

Originally posted by t020
Another thing I despise is the joining of 2 obviously separate sentences with a comma. One of the reasons for this is probably that MS Word does not always pick up on the error. An example is:

"The forum takes ages to read, this is due to the amount of boring threads clogging it up."

Should be:

"The forum takes ages to read. This is due to the amount of boring threads clogging it up."

(I couldn't think of a 'good' example - in the above one would simply drop "this is" altogether".)

Correct any spelling, punctuation and grammar mistakes I make saying this, but the words "Get a life" and "Remove head from ar$e" sum up everyones thoughts after reading any of your posts.

Originally posted by GazB
Correct any spelling, punctuation and grammar mistakes I make saying this, but the words "Get a life" and "Remove head from ar$e" sum up everyones thoughts after reading any of your posts.


Is that so? You've conducted a survey of over 20,000 people and come up with that finding? Well, if they think that about me, one has to wonder about what they think of your "look at me, look at me" contributions to the 'Hot or Not' thread (not to mention the arrogance of speaking on behalf of 20,000+ people).

Furthermore, if you find the subject of spelling and grammar so boring, one also has to wonder why you felt it necessary to read this thread (before taking it off topic with personal insults) in the first place?

There seem to be difficulties editing this.

People that do not use adverbs when needed annoy me.

:)

Originally posted by t020
Is that so? You've conducted a survey of over 20,000 people and come up with that finding? Well, if they think that about me, one has to wonder about what they think of your "look at me, look at me" contributions to the 'Hot or Not' thread (not to mention the arrogance of speaking on behalf of 20,000+ people).

Furthermore, if you find the subject of spelling and grammar so boring, one also has to wonder why you felt it necessary to read this thread (before taking it off topic with personal insults) in the first place?

no, think he was giving his opinion t020. some people simply aren't very good at grammer t020, some people don't understand or can't remember all the rules- this certainlty applies to me, don't like people who get in a nark about this.

However when it comes to writing letters or stuff then yeah it does matter, but on err it doesn't

it can annoy me sometimes, but as long as i can work out what they're trying to say im ok.

text speak annoys me more to be honest, spend an extra 10p on a text so i can read it, and don't use it on forums when you don't get charged for the words you use:loopy:

Originally posted by rocketpig
no, think he was giving his opinion t020. some people simply aren't very good at grammer t020, some people don't understand or can't remember all the rules- this certainlty applies to me, don't like people who get in a nark about this.

However when it comes to writing letters or stuff then yeah it does matter, but on err it doesn't

He was expressing his opinion on behalf of 20,000 people though (and also the opinions were personal insults directed at me, which is against the forum rules).

Originally posted by t020
He was expressing his opinion on behalf of 20,000 people though (and also the opinions were personal insults directed at me, which is against the forum rules).

explain to me how his opinions were personal insults towards yourself, its a debate about grammer fgs

Originally posted by rocketpig
explain to me how his opinions were personal insults towards yourself, its a debate about grammer fgs

Erm, did you not read his post? He told me that I should "get a life" and to "remove my head from my arse". I've no problem with differing opinions but personal insults scrape the barrel.

I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdgnieg

The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer inwaht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh?

Yaeh and I awlyas thought slpeling was ipmorantt!

I don't like 'should of' (as opposed to 'should have')...

But, as nick2 pointed out, life is too short.

Are you sure you didn't just stop reading?

"Gmail renamed Google Mail in Germany, UK" and Ireland...

:hihi:


Originally posted by RichD
I hate the way the American media use a comma instead of the word 'and'. One confusing example I saw recently was "Gmail renamed Google Mail in Germany, UK"

My first thought was, "Since when has Germany been in the UK???" It took me several seconds to work out what was actually meant.

Originally posted by stars_gazing
Are you sure you didn't just stop reading?

"Gmail renamed Google Mail in Germany, UK" and Ireland...

:hihi:
ROFL!! :D

MOD NOTE: Personal insults removed - stay on topic please.

Originally posted by Valdw
I like the 'here there and everywhere' mnemonic to tell the difference between 'There' and 'Their'. Has anyone got anything similar to help me remember when to use 'affect' and when to use 'effect'? I usuall get the right one I think, but not without a few moments of indecision

Val

Val, I used to have problems with this one as well.
Affect is a verb as in, "this doesn't affect you".
Effect is a noun, "This will have no effect on my result" but it can also be a verb to mean 'bring about' - "The General managed to effect the withdrawal of his troops."

Little anecdote for you. Child in my class asked me how to spell uster. When i said it was actually two words, he said no, not USED TO, USTER (like I was stupid) and took a lot of persuading that it was his dialect that made him say it as one word. The look he gave me made me still realise he thought I just didn't understand him.

my ex used to always say 'could of done' instead of could HAVE done, it used to bug me soooo much.

I've noticed quite a few people do it. I know you can say 'could've done' but even in texts he said 'could of' ARGH!!! Thank god we split up lol

some people arent as good witht he english language as others so no, i dont

Originally posted by x_Sunshine_x
my ex used to always say 'could of done' instead of could HAVE done, it used to bug me soooo much.

I've noticed quite a few people do it. I know you can say 'could've done' but even in texts he said 'could of' ARGH!!! Thank god we split up lol

PMSL just imagining the divorce papers.

Reason for breakup..........................

Irreconcilable and irrecoverable grammatical differences!:D :D

Originally posted by pedro1
Does anyone else get ****** off when people use the words to and too incorrectly also the use of the words off and of or is it me just being picky

Lack of punctuation really p****s me off.

Couldn't be bothered to read the whole thread (dull topic) so I apologise if somebody else has already said that.

Originally posted by daverity
PMSL just imagining the divorce papers.

Reason for breakup..........................

Irreconcilable and irrecoverable grammatical differences!:D :D

lol, u know a relationships going wrong when his spelling gets on your nerves!

Originally posted by daverity
PMSL just imagining the divorce papers.

Reason for breakup..........................

Irreconcilable and irrecoverable grammatical differences!:D :D

It all started at the alter (sic), your honour, instead of saying I do, he said I could of. :D

Originally posted by max
It all started at the alter (sic), your honour, instead of saying I do, he said I could of. :D

ARGH!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by max
It all started at the alter (sic), your honour, instead of saying I do, he said I could of. :D

And continued to go steadily downhill at the evening reception when in a written note to the DJ he requested as the opening dance with his new bride 'Troo buy Spandow Ballay' (sic ):hihi: :hihi:

Originally posted by ppn_2204
Dodgy use of punctuation and silly spelling mistakes do irritate me because, well, I'm a pedant. I managed to grasp the basics of grammar, punctuation and spelling and I don't think it was that difficult. On a forum such as this, though, I usually just shrug my shoulders and move on. I can usually understand what the poster is trying to say.

On the other hand, I find it too much effort to read posts composed of blimmin' great paragraphs of text which have roughly two full stops and no commas.

Poor punctuation in more formal writing and on signs is just lazy and counter-productive. There's a shop at the end of my road called "City Kitchen's" [name changed slightly to protect the guilty!]. If it wasn't for the fact that I don't want to look slightly strange, I'd go in there and point out the error. It really irritates me every time I walk past it.
I quite agree, and I think if people are going to the trouble of having sign writing done, they should at least get it right. Along the road from us is an old school which has been turned into a community centre thing, and it says '..........Centre formaly ..........School' when of course it should say FORMERLY.
I also remember getting a leaftlet from someone who, paid good money for 'Non Ferris' metals, which should have been ferrous

Originally posted by Mandem
I quite agree, and I think if people are going to the trouble of having sign writing done, they should at least get it right. Along the road from us is an old school which has been turned into a community centre thing, and it says '..........Centre formaly ..........School' when of course it should say FORMERLY.
I also remember getting a leaftlet from someone who, paid good money for 'Non Ferris' metals, which should have been ferrous
LOL It's utter madness! A sign or advertising leaflets are big investments; they are supposed to entice customers into the shop. The last thing you want is for the customers to be having a sly laugh at your expense.

Surely, even if the owner has less than perfect English skills, it should be part of sign writers' or printers' skills to spell-check/grammar-check/punctuation-check their signs and publications!