Looking for BJJ in Sheffield, any help?

I have done a search but keep coming up with some McDojo, I want proper BJJ!

McDojo? Please explain?

Contact me on goldson75@hotmail.com. I'm the instructor at Gracie Barra Sheffield.

We train Monday and Wednesday 6.30 till 8 @ the 393 Club on Langsett Road (Behind Morrissons)

We are a officially registed bjj school with the highly regarded Gracie Barra organisation. We regularly hold seminars with the top names in bjj as well as regularly having high grades coming to teach.

We have a range of guys training size and level so we cater for all.

We do both gi and no gi with a little mma depending on what you prefer.

And first lessons FREE so you can't lose!!

Sounds cool.

Mcdojo as in its one of those places that mass produces blackbelts and makes you sign a contract etc etc.

Your place sounds cool, who do you have doing seminars?

We have no contracts or direct debits etc, just my charm to keep you coming..........sorry and my technical ability of course:D

I got trap into a contract once and they tried to charge me £200 to leave!!! That was in Doncaster tho, Where in Sheff is it?

In our history we've held seminars with Mauricao Motta Gomes, Roger Gracie, Braulio Estima, Marcio Feitosa and Luciano 'lagarto' Rodrigues .

As well as Vitor 'Shaolin' Ribeiro, Royce and Rolker Gracie from outside Gracie Barra.

In 2006 we're already booking some of these guys again and some more big names! So watch this space.

The McDojo is around heeley way, heard some wierd stories about them.

Your place sounds like the muts nuts, proper bjj!! just what i want

How much are your classes? where and when?

Er, I know two clubs that way so instead of assuming I'm just gonna ask...........Which club? and what have you heard? (I'm intregued)

We're on Langsett Road, go to the entrance to Morrisons of Langsett and we're straight across the road. Can't miss it. First lesson free then £5 after that and its Mon & Wed 6 while 8 from the new year also hoping for a weekend class.

Have you done anything before?

Think you mean Castle BBA - they did have a brazilian instructor but I think he's stopped working there.

I train at Truebjj's club - come down and introduce yourself! There's a range of abilities (all the way from me up!) and classes are a good size - really feels like a team environment.

The classes are 5 pounds, and are on monday night 6-7.30 and wednesday nights 6-8 (I'm usually on the monday classes at the moment). The venue is called the 393 club, it's on langsett road, near hillsborough corner / morrissons if you know the area. If not, catch/follow a tram away from town and it's on your left just before the hillsborough stop.

Look forward to seeing you there! Have you trained BJJ before?

Chris

Oh, sorry - I only knew the one club :)

well i didnt want to mention any names.

i heard rumours about the brazilian instructor but could find no info on him, who was he? was he legit?

yup, i've trained before, i lived in new york and trained at renzos for a while, got to see roger training for ADCC the guy is a machine!

Ah!

I know the place and the instructor you mean. Had a look in to him myself but couldn't find anything too. So I went down with my old instructor before he moved away. At the time my instructor was a very talented blue belt (now purple) and when they rolled(fought) time ran out before anyone won.

My assessment was that having seen black belts fight before he should have handed him his arse on a plate! Belive me he wasn't playing too, he was trying.

Nice guy as far as I could tell but not very convincing on the mat.

ps hi crayfish!!

Cool!

I've been out to L.A. training. Trained with Royce and Rorion Gracie out there as well as Rigan and Roger Machado all top guys and opens your eyes abit!

To be fair it pushed me to train more with high grades in this country and as regular as I could. This is usually a brown belt one a week and a black belt one a month.

Originally posted by want2learn
Looking for BJJ in Sheffield, any help?

I have done a search but keep coming up with some McDojo, I want proper BJJ!

There's also a Royce Gracie Jiu Jitsu Network club that in Dronfield (about 1 mile o/s Sheffield). Training is on Monday evenings, 8:15-9:45, Upper Movement Hall, Henry Fanshaw School. If you search this forum, you'll find that there has been quite a lot of discussion re: BJJ and martial arts recently.

Personally, i can't receommend the Royce Gracie club highly enough

:clap:

the comments about Nilson Lopes are interesting. My introduction to BJJ was with him, and he presented as a really nice guy. He said that he'd got his blackbelt in about 4 years (i think), and had virtually lived in the dojo to do this (still pretty good going though)!. I've since heard several people, how can i put this, 'ask' about his credentials...i've also overheard a well-known Sheffield MMA fighter say that he spent as much time training with Nilson as he could...:confused:

I heard that story TrueBJJ, apparently the blue belt swept the black at will and had him in a submission when time was called.

I also heard he was tapped by a blue belt in cambridge.

Anvil, tell me about the royce club how ofter is royce there? who's the instructor, how long has he been training etc. I've met Royce before in the States and I know he's a busy guy how often does he make it over and how much are the classes?

TrueBJJ, who are the black and brown belts you train with?

not that it matters much now but....... Gracie Barra Sheffield is a fine club.... with a fantastic instructor :thumbsup: :heyhey:
and a top notch enviroment to train...... oh and john i now have abs like house bricks.... you smelll what in cooking:suspect:

tell me about the royce affiliated club? i would love tto learn some more from him

hi there,
i train & i help out with the coaching at royce gracie yorkshire derbyshire,the head coach is royce he comes over about twice a year,the coach is steve marsden he's a blue belt 2 strip & last but not least me-assistant coach mark"the monkey"bottom i'm a blue belt.:D we train on a monday & wednessday.

mon- 8.00-9.45 at dronfield school(franshaw site) upstairs of the upper movement hall(light brown building near top of slope) green lane,dronfield s18.
call steve on 07879662251 for any more info


wed-7.15-10.15 at graves tennis & leisure center (go to the badminton court area we'll be in the changing rooms)
call mark 0n 07939972758 for any more info

frist lesson free after that classes are £5.00 on mon & £6.00 on wed(it's only £1.00 for the extra hour & 15 mins)

we are a friendly bunch & welcome new comers,we have a wide group of body types & abilities:clap:

royce should be up in feb 2006 :heyhey: i carn't wait to train with him again.

hope this answers everthing for you.

p.s. thanx 4 the interest :thumbsup:

steve marsden? whats his competition record like? how longs he been training?

Just wondering how difficult this kinda stuff is to get into and if you need past experience? Not really interested in starting anything yet as im in no shape for it but hopefully next year i might be.

Come on everyone, its not right to talk about nilson like that. He was a great guy and an excellent martial artist. People should have more respect for him.

Everyone has only been saying these joke stories about nilson since he went back to brazil and andy moved to london. Me and my whole family have rolled with both andy and nilson lots of times. No one ever came to his club and questioned Nilson. Talk to Ross P about it, if you think Nilson is a genuine black belt, he rolled with him. I know rumours / storys about people from friends in Birmingham / scotland, that could easily post but if i haven't seen it myself, i don't comment about it.
Anyway, Nilson is meant to be visiting me soon, so when he comes i can let you all know and am sure you will all come and roll with him? and tap him out,wont you?!!

PS. Just to let you know, all the names mentioned so far (Steve Marsden, Andy Roberts, John) about BJJ have all trained atour academy, so we can't be that bad can we??

Tribal - beginners are welcome and it's a great sport to get involved in. It's also good for getting into shape and no one would force you to do anything you're not comfortable with or push you past your physical limits.

As far as experience goes, it's not essential - brazilian jujitsu concentrates on one important and often overlooked aspect of fighting which most martial arts styles simply don't cover (ground grappling). Some martial artists train it in conjunction with other styles, usually including something specialising in striking to get the all round picture.

However it is a very stimulating sport in it's own right and many people train in BJJ on it's own - there's certainly nothing wrong with coming into it cold. We do get a range of abilities down including a few total beginners.

I train at the 393 club on Langsett Road (monday and wednesday nights, 6-8), pop down and say hi some time!

Chris

Castlebba,

I agree with you on most of what you say but although I have the upmost respect for Nilson, I also watched him roll with Andy with my own eyes. Now Nilson may have been toying with Andy and I'm sure that he will tap all the blue belts in Sheff at the mo.

But hes a black belt so what will that prove?

In the new year Gracie Barra Sheffield will be having a large input from a number of brown and black belts such as Brualio, Legarto and Victor (as well as others). When Nilson is back over he's very welcome to come over and have a prober oppotunity to silence everybody by rolling with guys at his own level.

Now with that said lets just promote the sport and stop the in fighting!!!!!!!!

I wish to call a time out on the digs and hidden agendas! I hope to see all the grapplers in Sheffield at the Urban Gorillas Submission comp or get your asses to each others clubs and start networking.

This is all getting confusing,

So far we have

Gracie Barra Sheffield run by Jon Goldson
Royce Gracie something or other run by steve marsden

is there another one affiliated with this nilson lopes?

I need to get all the facts before i decide where to train.

and people mention andy roberts, roger told me that was who to train with in sheffield but i couldnt find any info on him.

whats going on????

Originally posted by Rivaltribal
Just wondering how difficult this kinda stuff is to get into and if you need past experience?

I started at Gracie Barra Sheffield nearly two years ago (god doesn't time fly :o ) with no previous experience in any martial arts and have found the training to be very challenging at times. however the classes have all ways been fun and friendly and as well as very informative. I recently completed for this first time and took 3rd place in my weight category (had to drop that in again :) ), a result I was very pleased with and put down to the instruction and hardwork at GB Sheffield.

Originally posted by Rivaltribal
Not really interested in starting anything yet as im in no shape for it but hopefully next year i might be.

Its a terrible cliché but the best way to get in shape for rolling/drilling technique is......................... rolling and drilling technique :) I was in far from amazing shape when I started and wouldn't say I was an amzing runner etc but cope well enough with the demands of the class.

Jim

Originally posted by want2learn
This is all getting confusing,

So far we have

Gracie Barra Sheffield run by Jon Goldson
Royce Gracie something or other run by steve marsden

is there another one affiliated with this nilson lopes?

I need to get all the facts before i decide where to train.

and people mention andy roberts, roger told me that was who to train with in sheffield but i couldnt find any info on him.

whats going on????

Andy Roberts used to run Gracie Barra Sheffield, he was the instructor when I started there nearly two years ago. Andy moved down south to train full time at the Roger Gracie Academy in London approximatly the autum of 2004 (can't remember the exact date but was around then). At that point Jon Goldson took over the club.

EDIT: just wanted to add that both Gracie Barra Sheffield and by the looks of it Royce Gracie yorkshire derbyshire offer your first class free, I seem to be full of clichés today but why not try both classes and see which you enjoy most/find the best intruction at?

so there are only 2 BJJ clubs in sheffield?

GB sheffield

Royce Gracie

right?

Currently, as far as I know, yes. Except that the Royce Gracie academy is technically in dronfield, not sheffield (i think, have to admit i've never been - mostly due to the distance though).

There is also a club in doncaster, which is reckoned to be good although again I've never been.

Cheers for the advice Chris but im a good few stone overweight and would at least like to lose a bit of that first.

when your ready tribal, look forward to seeing you:thumbsup:

Originally posted by want2learn
steve marsden? whats his competition record like? how longs he been training?

I have no idea what Steve's competition record is like...before i began training at RGJJN i enquired about Gracie Barra and i didn't ask Jon Goldson about his competiton record either. would you ask Cus D'Amato what his competition record was? what about Brendon Ingle? it's just not a factor (for me).

i'm more interested in attending a club that has a warm and friendly atmosphere and where the instructors are able to relay information in an accessible method. i train for fitness, self-defence and fun - competiton isn't a priority.

Originally posted by CastleBBA
Come on everyone, its not right to talk about nilson like that. He was a great guy and an excellent martial artist. People should have more respect for him.

Talk to Ross P about it

Ross is the well-known MMA fighter who i referred to earlier - i overheard him say that he'd spent as much time as he could training with Nilson, and i don' think he would have done so if he didn't think he could learn anything from him or if he doubted his credentials. maybe i should have been a little more explicit in saying this - i certainly wouldn't want to disrespect Nislon, simply because he seemed like a really nice guy. sorry for any misunderstanding on my part.

I like to know guys competition records, competing is an integral part of bjj and instructors that dont compete, well, i think they should.how can you teach something and say it works without ever trying it?

I dont really care about the win/loss ratio of a guys record I just respect them more for putting it on the line.

would you rather learn from the best or someone who goes drinking with you after class?

just my 2 cents worth.

Originally posted by want2learn
I like to know guys competition records, competing is an integral part of bjj and instructors that dont compete, well, i think they should.how can you teach something and say it works without ever trying it?

I dont really care about the win/loss ratio of a guys record I just respect them more for putting it on the line.

would you rather learn from the best or someone who goes drinking with you after class?

just my 2 cents worth.

what if a guy puts his record on the line week in, week out, with a 100% win record, but can't teach - as a student that's no good whatsover to me. how much did the likes of d'amato and Ingle prove what they knew works? , Their students sure as hell have.

a kimura works whether a particular instructor has demonstrated it in a competition or not. i don't need to see that, i've seen other people make it work, and i've seen instructors make it work competition or not. i've also been taught it, and i can make it work. I'd rather learn from someone who can teach, whether they go drinking after class or not.

and if you don't really care about a win/loss ratio, but you do care if someone puts their record on the line, wouldn't your initial question have been better phrased 'does/has steve competed?'

Want2learn and Anvil,

Kind of agree with you both hear, I do belive that you should as an instructor compete not only to test yourself but to find out what your own weaknesses are but to find out whats new out there as well. New moves are developed every day and you can learn a lot at these things.

Anvil your Ingle argument suggest Brendon Ingle is just a trainer of excellent boxers(I may have misunderstood!) I think you'll find that he Boxer from 1965 to 1972 having 30 fights then became a trainer.

And lets not forget, would we have been doing bjj if Royce didnt compete (and win) in the UFC etc?

If you are not into the sport to compete and I know that some aren't it a very good idea to attend comps to learn how the sport is progressing.

Anvil do you compete?

Sorry, my argument pertaining to Brendan is that he is a better coach than he ever was a boxer - you can be a world-class coach without being a world class competitor.

i've nver had the opportunity to compete in BJJ (i have in judo). i may in the future, but my priamry objective is self-dfence to be honest. competition might be cool later.

I get ya!

If you do it for self defence I would defiantly suggest keeping up your competing. I feel it can also give you the edge when it comes to fight or flight.


When I train on the mat, I know the guy in front of me not only is my student but my mate too and doesn't really want to hurt me in a bad way (Guys??) so the reactions are different.

But in completions you have the butterflies an all but you're use to them and have better control.

true.... i got my ass kicked in a sub wrestling comp in about 30sec to a guillotine... i thought i knew how to get out... but someone is always evolving the sport... thats why the level of fighters has gone up so much in the last few years.

to be honest you can always get a kimura on someone in training.... theres a big difference between knowing the perfect technique, and applying the perfect techniquie.

its harder when you don't know the person you fight...

lets face it a black belt from Royces UFC days, would be a shadow of the equivolent black belt now, simply because of the evolution of the sport....

even if you never win a fight in a comp, you should learn something more usefull than, if you went undefeated for 10 years.

TrueBjj you know i wont mess you up to bad... :hihi:

I've trained at a couple of clubs where the instructors competed regularly (not BJJ), but the clubs were both (in my opinion) poorly run. i didn't learn a great deal from them as a result of that, even though the instructors put their neck's on the line and could personally demonstrate the successful application of techniques in competition.

the other problem (for me) with both of those clubs was that they were heavily competition orientated. this meant that joe (or joanne) bloggs would come to their first session, looking for something to keep them fit, have a bit of fun and maybe learn a few reasonable self-defence techniques, only to be totally overwhelmed by the focus on competition, and then never come again.

i'm not anti-competition, and i agree with you truebjj about fight or flight. i think it's also beneficial to a club if people do compete because the people who don't can still develop their game by learning from the experiences of those who do. i'm simply stating that for me, it's not the be all and end all, and what an instructors competiton record is doesn't interest me.

in my opinion two of the best features of BJJ are the ability to spar against a fully resistant opponent and the system for awarding belts. the sparring means that you can test if things work - ok, it might not replicate the street, what can? NHB competitions can't (nothing can), but a least your partner is resisting, so you should get an idea if you can make something work or not.

as for the belt system, i think the very fact that belts are awarded by blackbelts and based on a person's performance on the mat is testament enough to anyone's ability. blue belts aren't handed out willy nilly in BJJ (again, a great feature of the game) - you have to prove yourself able against other people, competition or not.

when i referred to a kimura, it was just an example of a technique. it could be any technique. what i'm saying is that the validity of a technique does not depend alone on the successful application of said technique by my (or your) instructor in a competitive environment. a technique works for me because i can make it work, not because my instructor can.

yama****a, the great judo player, dominated his weight class in judo for many years but he relied on just a handful of techniques. now let's assume the guy can teach - would i say to him, yes you can teach me, but only the 4 or 5 techniques that you personally proved could work? hell no, if the guy can teach, he can teach me the techniques that other people have made work too!

yes the game develops, and competing personally is a good way of keeping up with those developments, but it's not the only way - you can keep up with developments by sparring with other people who compete, by attending seminars, by utilising the latest training aids, etc. from my point of view, training with self-defence in mind, i'm just going to assume (rightly or wrongly) that some guy who's going to mug me is still watching UFC 1 and has no idea about the de la riva guard or saulo ribeiro's latest tapes!

:D

like i said, i'm not anti-competiton, it's integral and essential to the development of BJJ, but there are other factors when it comes to teaching

Originally posted by bjjmonkey
hi there,
i train & i help out with the coaching at royce gracie yorkshire derbyshire,the head coach is royce he comes over about twice a year,the coach is steve marsden he's a blue belt 2 strip & last but not least me-assistant coach mark"the monkey"bottom i'm a blue belt.:D we train on a monday & wednessday.

mon- 8.00-9.45 at dronfield school(franshaw site) upstairs of the upper movement hall(light brown building near top of slope) green lane,dronfield s18.
call steve on 07879662251 for any more info


wed-7.15-10.15 at graves tennis & leisure center (go to the badminton court area we'll be in the changing rooms)
call mark 0n 07939972758 for any more info

frist lesson free after that classes are £5.00 on mon & £6.00 on wed(it's only £1.00 for the extra hour & 15 mins)

we are a friendly bunch & welcome new comers,we have a wide group of body types & abilities:clap:

royce should be up in feb 2006 :heyhey: i carn't wait to train with him again.

hope this answers everthing for you.

p.s. thanx 4 the interest :thumbsup:
i may give that a whirl later in the year when i can drive... will be odd going back to my old school thou :|

ok, maybe i phrased my question wrong, i am a yank after all.

Yes I agree a great competitor doesnt necasserily equal a great coach but you got to see what works, i have fought and lost many a time luckily won more than lost but what i learnt from the experience is something that you will never learn in a training session.

i learnt more about myself both character and bjj in just one 6 minute match than i did in years of training.

if brendan ingle had never boxed would he be such a great coach?

Originally posted by want2learn
ok, maybe i phrased my question wrong, i am a yank after all.


don't worry, no one's perfect! (sorry, couldn't resist!)

no, perhaps Brendan wouldn't have been such a great coach if he'd never boxed, but he made something like top 10 in the british rankings...good, but not brilliant. my point is simply that there's no correllation between the level at which one competes and the level at which one teaches/instructs (i'm pretty sure that this could easily be verified by a myriad of examples in many different sports). if i went to Brendan's gym it would because of his ability to teach, not because of his competition record, same with the martial arts club that i choose.

i like threads like this, you find out loads of stuff, and opinions

ok, so you judge the best gym by the number of champions it has created?

champion students = good instructor

so out of gracie barra sheffield, nilsons club and steves club who has the most champions?

Why don't you just give each of the clubs a try and then decide? :)

Nilson's club no longer have a BJJ instructor, Nilson left. I don't believe either remaining club really focusses on competition or has been in a competitive environment for long enough to create any 'champions'. Not to say that they won't do. I could be wrong, I don't know much about the dronfield club so I can't say much more about that but from what I have heard they're in much the same position as we are.

To be honest, if you're looking for the absolute cream of the crop tuition from established champions at clubs churning out competitors... Sheffield probably isn't the best place for it. We're not exactly the centre of the BJJ world. We do however have a couple of amateur clubs who train hard, have a great atmosphere and are working at establishing themselves better. There is a competition in... march? I think, that we are all training towards, but I personally haven't entered a competition for years and while some other people have, it's not been the primary focus of the club.

The only martial art club I can think of that fits that sort of internationally renowned, competitive profile in Sheffield is the wicker thai boxing camp.

Originally posted by want2learn
ok, so you judge the best gym by the number of champions it has created?

champion students = good instructor

so out of gracie barra sheffield, nilsons club and steves club who has the most champions?

I certainly don't judge the best gym by the number of champions it has created. 'best' is subjective - what is best for me might not be best for you. i like the place i train at - i like the instruction, the atmosphere, the people, the venue, the time, etc. - i would never ever claim that it is the 'best', it just suits me. each club may have its own philosophy anyway - one club might want to turn out champions, one might want to teach for self-defence and fun - Sheffield is a big enough city to house 2 or more BJJ clubs in perfect harmony, without one having to be 'better' than another.

i agree entirely with crayfish - sheffield is hardly the centre of the BJJ world. Gracie Barra is a more established club and possibly (probably?) has more people training there who have competed (in BJJ), but i'm not sure. as for champions? i really have no idea.

I would be a champ if Silva would return my calls!!!!!!!

I'm definitely starting BJJ down the 393 Club at some point this month.

Great :) I'm going tonight but then maybe not for a while because of exams. I'll see you sometime though!

GazB,

Look forward to seeing you:thumbsup:

i have seen the light and am gonna take up wing chun, who needs grappling when you have anti-grappling. the floor isnt the place to be i a streetfight so wing chun all the way baby!!

Originally posted by want2learn
i have seen the light and am gonna take up wing chun, who needs grappling when you have anti-grappling. the floor isnt the place to be i a streetfight so wing chun all the way baby!!

Can't beat a good combination of Muay Thai and BJJ.

Just about every single cage/UFC fighter uses the 2 of them over anything else.

Can't say I know much about Wing Chun.. But I can't see a little chop to the arm will beat a knee to the skull or a ground and pound battering :)

Depends on the skill and intention of the practitioner. Would a fist to the eyes have more or less effect than a strike with the fingertips? You do get a couple more inches range that way also.

a fist wouldnt fit in your eye socket so wouldnt cause much damage to the actual eye ball but significant damage to the surrounding area.

a finger strike would cause great damage to the eyeball but have to be greatly accurate to avoid damaging your fingers.

:help: you thought i was serious

bjj4life baby

I did think you were serious actually :)

But glad you're not

Originally posted by want2learn
a finger strike would cause great damage to the eyeball but have to be greatly accurate to avoid damaging your fingers.


Position, then push. Also depends on how much you've conditioned yourself for striking like this. As I've posted before, Takamatsu conditioned his fingers so much his fingernails were 4mm thick.

Not knocking BJJ, would like to give it a try at some point. Just pointing out that there was more to other styles than "a little chop to the arm" from the Gazb post.

i had a fungal nail infection once and my finger nail was 6mm thick!

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Nah, never take yanks seriously! :hihi: :thumbsup:

I've heard this about his fingernails before... someone showed me an old photo once, seemed pretty impressive.

Um... what sort of training gives you thick fingernails though? I train fairly regularly and have experienced no fingernail thickening to speak of.

Don't know the methods. However he apparantly was a truely professional 'martial' artist. Lots of stories about his deeds/kills as well as the fact he was a personal bodyguard to the emperor for 10 years.

He was still a formidable practitioner in his seventies. This was more remarkable as he was deaf in one ear and blind in one eye. (don't know if they were the same side) The deafness was due to a 'Dojo storming' incident. He won.

However he is reported as saying no one now could train to condition their hands to the extent he did. Modern life demands more flexibility. In conditioning his hands as weapons I guess he limited the flexibility for other tasks. possibly more relevant now with the advent of mobile phones/texting etc.

Hmm, as a guitarist - no I wouldn't. I can imagine that anyone who would dedicate themselves to the martial arts enough to train in that sort of way must really have been a scary fighter though.

Still, I suppose that professional cagefighters probably go through some similarly harsh training nowadays - though it wouldn't benefit them to have huge fingernails.

Yikes, dug up some articles about him - pretty impressive. Trained his hands by, basically, flicking / punching rocks. Killed 12 people in fight to the death challenges? Would you challenge someone who's already killed 11 people to a fight to the death? Crazy.

One story I read.

Apparantly he went to the docks as some big guy had been mugging people. In the ensuing fight he did hit to the eye, which caused it to be removed. Fight finished.
However, as he was medically trained he attended to his opponent and then charged him!

Hmm, I read that story except it was mongolian bandits and he plucked the eye out with a reflex reaction - but essentially the same story.

Does make you wonder how accurate some of these stories are though... probably get a bit wilder as they're passed down (like another one I read where when being chased by a pistolier on horseback he rolled under the horse, grabbed a sword off the floor, span round and decapitated him all before being shot, which sounds a little unlikely). However, coming out victorious in 12 fights to the death speaks for itself as to his actual fighting prowess.

Finger strength!

http://www.wimp.com/ninety/

This looks dodgy/unreal. However there are loads of links about the guy. Apparantly he was a top notch shaolin monk called Hai Den

Um, fair enough :)

Impressive, but I'm sure that is possible if you train up to it

Just seems a bit of an odd thing to spend your life developing

anybody know the email address of the Royce Gracie club in Dronfield please:)

Think 'Anvil' is a regular, try a pm

Originally posted by Crayfish
Um, fair enough :)

Impressive, but I'm sure that is possible if you train up to it


One of the sites said he was the only one capable. His students had managed 2 or 3 finger. Said he was considered a 'national treasure' and in his later years spent 3 years as head of the shaolin school

Originally posted by waikru
anybody know the email address of the Royce Gracie club in Dronfield please:)

Training is on Monday evenings, 8:15-9:45, Upper Movement Hall, Henry Fanshaw School, Green Lane, Dronfield and also 7.15-10.15, Graves Leisure Centre at Norton, Sheffield.

What day is the one at Norton on?

cheers Anvil.........do you know if Royce will be over this year now that he is scheduled to fight Matt Hughes in May ?

the session at norton is on wednesday.

royce should be over in feb - no one's said he won't be yet, but i guess it could change. i think the plan is that we will get 4 visits per year, 2 from royce and 2 from rodrigo, but i'm not certain.

cheers Anvil.........I'll keep my eye out on Royce's website for updates on his schedule as to his UK visits.

thanks
waikru:)

"royce should be over in feb - no one's said he won't be yet, but i guess it could change. i think the plan is that we will get 4 visits per year, 2 from royce and 2 from rodrigo, but i'm not certain"

Which Rodrigo is it? Gracie?

yes, it's Rodrigo Gracie.....he's been training with Royce for some time now.

Wicked that's some quality new-school gracie talent - do you know if he'll do any no-gi subwrestling or MMA as he's had success in the past few years? Rodrigo is a black belt under Renzo - a no-gi beast!

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