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fhain29
14-12-2005, 07:52 PM
Who knows anything about the history of Smith's Field or Smithies Field between Petre Street and Grimesthorpe Road?
I played there and picked blackberries in the 70s and 80s, and always wondered why there was an open space of this size there, next to factories on the one side and the then new Carwood estate on the other. My family, who lived in the area before the slum clearance, remember from the 40s and 50s, and I think they mentioned sonething about a cricket pavilion.

Here's a picture (http://www.riverland.net.au/~lawelect/icons/smithfld.jpg)

Why is the field there?
Why has it never been built on?
Does anyone else have memories of it?

matt1889
16-12-2005, 12:34 PM
I think this page from the Burngreave messenger should be able to give u some answers!

Matt

matt1889
16-12-2005, 12:35 PM
http://www.burngreavemessenger.org.uk/36nov03/petre.shtml

glen
13-01-2006, 01:49 PM
i remember Smiths fields i used to live at 84 peter st.spent many a happy hour there,didnt need toys just our imagination.we also picked blackberries,that was mid fourties.went to all saints school.perhaps they dont want to destroy our happy little memories:rolleyes:

pressy
13-01-2006, 02:05 PM
My Great Gran lived at 99a Petre Street ..... looking at Matt1889's link to the Burngreave Messenger, was wondering if anyone knows which junction the photo is of ..... if its Petre St & Sutherland, then I can see her house & its the only photo I've seen ... can remember playing when I was very young.

Shaun

pressy
13-01-2006, 09:31 PM
Anyone got any more photos of Petre Street???

Greybeard
13-01-2006, 10:34 PM
A few here....

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.refno=s15423

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.refno=s13206

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.refno=u01827

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.refno=u01843

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.refno=t00992

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.refno=s18695

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.refno=s18711

pressy
14-01-2006, 06:12 PM
Great pics ... thanks

glen
15-01-2006, 01:42 PM
Thanks greybeard for those pics,anyone else got any?

Saxon
15-01-2006, 02:03 PM
My dad used to have a corner shop on Petre Street - not sure when, probably late 40's - early 50's.

Can anyone remember it and provide any details? Think it was a sweet shop or something similar

pressy
15-01-2006, 11:11 PM
Saxon ... do you know which part of Petre Street??? I know there was a butchers, Post Office, Tailors not sure about the others.

Saxon
17-01-2006, 10:24 PM
I'm afraid not. My dad died about 15 years ago before I became interested in the family history.

My brother's a bit older than me so I'll ask him when I see him.

pressy
17-01-2006, 10:33 PM
I'll ask my mum if she remembers a sweet shop when I see her.

double
19-01-2006, 02:26 PM
Hi there I lived on Petre st in the 70's and remember quite a few sweet shops. I lived @ no 32 and there was a shop on the junction of Maxwell street and Petre st so it could have been no 2 Petre st or no 1 maxwell street???????????Then mid way between the the corner shop and the Tailors there was another shop, don't remember the name but it always smelt fusty..............I also remember vaugely the shop on the corner of Petre street and Earldom Street I think it sold wool and kids clothes.
Does anyone rember Ellesmere school?? Loads must have gone but I never really see and mention of it I was aPupil in the early seventies and remember Miss Quebiack she was scotish. miss Gill, the Headteacher,, Miss Weaver, Miss lavender nee miss Jones.And does anyones remember Sutherland Rd baths and Mr Scott or the playground called Wembly????

Bushi Kempo
26-01-2006, 12:32 PM
Hi there I lived on Petre st in the 70's and remember quite a few sweet shops. I lived @ no 32 and there was a shop on the junction of Maxwell street and Petre st so it could have been no 2 Petre st or no 1 maxwell street???????????Then mid way between the the corner shop and the Tailors there was another shop, don't remember the name but it always smelt fusty..............I also remember vaugely the shop on the corner of Petre street and Earldom Street I think it sold wool and kids clothes.
Does anyone rember Ellesmere school?? Loads must have gone but I never really see and mention of it I was aPupil in the early seventies and remember Miss Quebiack she was scotish. miss Gill, the Headteacher,, Miss Weaver, Miss lavender nee miss Jones.And does anyones remember Sutherland Rd baths and Mr Scott or the playground called Wembly????

I lived at 179 Grimesthorpe road across from Ashmores butchers shop, I was his Saturday lad, washing his van and Triumph herald soft top. Arther Robinson was the assistant butcher.
I remember Woodheads sweet shop at the junction of roads opposite the main entrance to All Saints church. Below that you had Kays ladies hairdressers where I would pester mom for money every Saturday while she had her head cooked. Then the chemists, then the Spar shop and most important of all Gaggs chippy, extra scraps please.
The shop on the corner of Petre st and Maxwell st belonged to Palfreymans, 18 months ago we bought our latest abode from Dave and Fay Cocker, Fay was the daughter of Mr Palfreyman and I went to school with Daves younger brother Michael. We had a great time remembering Pitsmoor and its characters.
Across the road on the corner junction of Ellesmere rd and Petre st you had the Junk shop. Going back up Petre st on the right there was the fusty sweet shop and then on the corner of Sutherland rd and Petre st Fairbrothers tailors, I went to school with Janet Fairbrother.Directly across the road there was the wool shop Stringers, mum obviously got her wool from there and I got my black pumps. Further on Petre st there was a cobblers, wrapped your shoes in brown paper for collection and the smell was wonderfull. I am sure the cobbler wore a large built up shoe and had a motor bike and sidecar, his daughter went to school with us as well. Across the road at the bus stop to town was the little sweet shop where you got a quarter of midget gems in a triangle paper bag and in later years he would sell you a single ciggy in the same triangle bag complete with a match, underage of course.
The Wembley, played down there a lot too. Good times you had to behave yourselves though or the parky would be out of his snug little office to rollock you.
Sutherland rd baths, thank god for those. We spent hours and hours down there. Tony Wagstaff, John Timmins, Stu Butler, Tony Saccomando, Phillip Gill all good swimmers because of that sadist Mr Scott. I remember seeing him with his long bamboo pole with the loop on the end pushing some poor infortunate kid back away from the safety of the edge untill, it was obvious the kid was drowning, only then did he let them grab the pole to safety.I was determined this bully would not give me the same treatment so I learnt to swim with whoever would teach me in my time. You could say he got results and that was life then but I am sure some kids would disagree.
( see other comments in forum ).
I could go on and on, which I probally have allready.

double
26-01-2006, 01:38 PM
Hi thanks for your great reply.We must have walked the same turf, you reminded me of a lot of other people&places.like the parky who worked the wembley playground (strange job full employment post war policy)he was Scottish i think and didn't take any shi.... rubbish.and the Junk shop on the junction of Ellesmere Rd and Petre St.Which never seemed to be open and had a large golden Labrador as a guard who would bark at anyone who came anywhere near the shop. I also rember playing football in the play ground of Ellesmere school for hours on end, if we could get a ball,and the peace gardens of the community club. And the Palfreymans who owned the corner shop.As I remember she was a small blond lady who wore glasses and he was quite tall (I was a 5 year old kid everyone's tall)and enjoyed a cigar.they also owned a Rover car I think.
I came in to contact with a family called Palfreyman a few years ago, from Eckington I wonder if their related.........

Bushi Kempo
30-01-2006, 09:39 PM
Nah den Double,
I am 51, did we tread the same turf at the same time?. I Lived at 179 Grimesthorpe rd from 1954 to 1971, 120 Ellesmere rd 73 to 75ish and Abbeyfield rd which was my first house purchase, we were there for approx five years. Left Pitsmoor around 1980 to Woodhouse. Does Tutsy ring any bells.

Do you remember the mad pavement cyclist. He use to live with his parents on the right hand side of Sutherland rd just below the jnc of Petre st. Below the old Methodist church, Boys Brigade underneath it.
Anyway he used to fly out of the house on the bike which was one of your extra heavy duty wiggys gas pipe type, complete with umpteen mirrors,bells, lights and flags of all nations wafting in the wind. He did not care who was in the way, old biddies chatting or kids playing he would just steam through the lot. He wore in all weathers, a waterproof black flying helmet and long heavy gaberdine overcoat. Even with this handicap he would pump up and down the hills of Pitsmoor, England missed out on a potential Tour De France winner Im sure of it.
The last memory I have of him I must have been around 14 and he was no young man but he was still carving up the pedestrians of Pismoor legs going fifty to dozen with that mad determined look on his face.
Just one of Pismoors many colourfull old characters.

thecuriousdo
30-01-2006, 09:54 PM
Does anyone remember the cowley family from petre street probably around the 1930's 40's etc i would appreciate any help thanks:)

double
30-01-2006, 11:24 PM
Nice to hear from you I'am only 40 so it's same place's different times although the crazy bike rider ring a bell slightly

Bushi Kempo
01-02-2006, 09:24 PM
Does anyone remember the cowley family from petre street probably around the 1930's 40's etc i would appreciate any help thanks:)

Remember a Cowlishaw family on Lyons rd.

glen
05-02-2006, 04:15 PM
What were the names of the Cowley family.I lived at 84 Petre st till 1949.ours was the last yard before sutherland rd.There was a fish shop on the corner,opposite was pashleys bakery,corner of Earldom Street.Regards Glenda:confused:

glen
28-02-2006, 02:13 AM
hi bushi I remember all of those places,I lived right next door to the tailors,Opposite was a bakery called Pashleys.Oh the tailors was a fish shop called cottons then.I also remember the fish and chip shop near all saints school ( i went there) I am looking for a photo of that junction showing the tailors shop on the corner as it was in the 40s,Anyone help me.I have been in ausie for 43years and i am having a ball finding all about the past.Thanks Glenda

dadoronron
26-03-2006, 01:15 PM
I went to ellesmere rd school and remember most of the names posted by "double", I lived on grimesthorpe road just above the normanton inn and in the yard next to sellans the paper/sweet shop.I remember playing on the "wreck" as a kid that was across the road from "the tea garden terrace" pub.We used to play in the old church just inside osgathorpe park and hang around on the "devils elbow", We used to "penny for the guy" outside the buckingham pub and wait for the drunks to drop you a halfpenny or so.The woman who lived on smiths fields was called mrs taffinder, she used to work at the swimming baths with "baldy fred" and mr scott.I liked baldy fred, if you cleaned the baths sides with that pink soap, you could stay in for an extra swim

Arthur Fearn
26-03-2006, 09:27 PM
Who knows anything about the history of Smith's Field or Smithies Field between Petre Street and Grimesthorpe Road?
I played there and picked blackberries in the 70s and 80s, and always wondered why there was an open space of this size there, next to factories on the one side and the then new Carwood estate on the other. My family, who lived in the area before the slum clearance, remember from the 40s and 50s, and I think they mentioned sonething about a cricket pavilion.

Here's a picture (http://www.riverland.net.au/~lawelect/icons/smithfld.jpg)

Why is the field there?
Why has it never been built on?
Does anyone else have memories of it?I remember the pavilion used to have seats in front, watched many matches, there was a family of smiths lived in a big house at the top of the field, on grimesthorpe rd if its not been built on the decendants perhaps still own it. there was a balloon barrage at the bottom during the war Idid a bit of snogging in the sand bag shed with lovely waff called Bobby

Arthur Fearn
26-03-2006, 09:37 PM
Nah den Double,
I am 51, did we tread the same turf at the same time?. I Lived at 179 Grimesthorpe rd from 1954 to 1971, 120 Ellesmere rd 73 to 75ish and Abbeyfield rd which was my first house purchase, we were there for approx five years. Left Pitsmoor around 1980 to Woodhouse. Does Tutsy ring any bells.

Do you remember the mad pavement cyclist. He use to live with his parents on the right hand side of Sutherland rd just below the jnc of Petre st. Below the old Methodist church, Boys Brigade underneath it.
Anyway he used to fly out of the house on the bike which was one of your extra heavy duty wiggys gas pipe type, complete with umpteen mirrors,bells, lights and flags of all nations wafting in the wind. He did not care who was in the way, old biddies chatting or kids playing he would just steam through the lot. He wore in all weathers, a waterproof black flying helmet and long heavy gaberdine overcoat. Even with this handicap he would pump up and down the hills of Pitsmoor, England missed out on a potential Tour De France winner Im sure of it.
The last memory I have of him I must have been around 14 and he was no young man but he was still carving up the pedestrians of Pismoor legs going fifty to dozen with that mad determined look on his face.
Just one of Pismoors many colourfull old characters.
well after my t ime [33to48] lived on earldom st ,

Arthur Fearn
26-03-2006, 09:53 PM
Hi thanks for your great reply.We must have walked the same turf, you reminded me of a lot of other people&places.like the parky who worked the wembley playground (strange job full employment post war policy)he was Scottish i think and didn't take any shi.... rubbish.and the Junk shop on the junction of Ellesmere Rd and Petre St.Which never seemed to be open and had a large golden Labrador as a guard who would bark at anyone who came anywhere near the shop. I also rember playing football in the play ground of Ellesmere school for hours on end, if we could get a ball,and the peace gardens of the community club. And the Palfreymans who owned the corner shop.As I remember she was a small blond lady who wore glasses and he was quite tall (I was a 5 year old kid everyone's tall)and enjoyed a cigar.they also owned a Rover car I think.
I came in to contact with a family called Palfreyman a few years ago, from Eckington I wonder if their related.........WhenIwas a lad the junk shop was owned by mr andrews and did agood trade,but i recall it always shut after he died, recall all those places, lived on earldom st before and after the war

Arthur Fearn
02-04-2006, 10:42 PM
My Great Gran lived at 99a Petre Street ..... looking at Matt1889's link to the Burngreave Messenger, was wondering if anyone knows which junction the photo is of ..... if its Petre St & Sutherland, then I can see her house & its the only photo I've seen ... can remember playing when I was very young.

Shaun Hi Shaun, Yes that is the shop on the lefthand side of the picture where your Gran Mrs Clarkson lived, at the time it was a butchers shop Mr Edy ran it, the shop on the right was owned by Sam, DEMOCRITOUS, Davies, and sister Liza, where Glenda used to go and was affectionately called Blondie, Cheers Arthur.

glen
03-04-2006, 03:02 PM
Uncle arty.My nick name was snowball,not too long ago when i was nursing,one of my patients yelled hey snowball,i stopped in my tracks as nobody over here in Aus knew that.Strange feeling that was.:huh:

Arthur Fearn
03-04-2006, 10:27 PM
Sorry Glen [or S NOWBALL]have you got the petre st pictures yet

double
13-04-2006, 10:26 AM
Pitsmoor Camera By JR Wrigley is the book to buy for all persons who have memories of the Ellesmere Area

glen
20-04-2006, 05:33 AM
Hi there I lived on Petre st in the 70's and remember quite a few sweet shops. I lived @ no 32 and there was a shop on the junction of Maxwell street and Petre st so it could have been no 2 Petre st or no 1 maxwell street???????????Then mid way between the the corner shop and the Tailors there was another shop, don't remember the name but it always smelt fusty..............I also remember vaugely the shop on the corner of Petre street and Earldom Street I think it sold wool and kids clothes.
Does anyone rember Ellesmere school?? Loads must have gone but I never really see and mention of it I was aPupil in the early seventies and remember Miss Quebiack she was scotish. miss Gill, the Headteacher,, Miss Weaver, Miss lavender nee miss Jones.And does anyones remember Sutherland Rd baths and Mr Scott or the playground called Wembly????
Hi That sweet shop you are talking about that smelled musty was owned by Mr Bradshaw,Then a little further up on the same side was another shop owned by a lady named Olga,cant even recall what she sold.I lived in the end yard just before Sutherland road,next door at that time was a fish shop.desparately looking for photos of that corner,!!!!

double
20-04-2006, 04:06 PM
Pitsmoor Camera By JR Wrigley is the book to buy for all persons who have memories of the Ellesmere Area

adnil
07-12-2006, 08:01 PM
RE-smiths field, we used to live on Edgar st, just off petre st,smiths field used to have a smashing cricket pitch we all used to go and watch them play mom,dads kids usually on a sunday,when we kids had had enough we used to go 'uptop' where the garden allotments were and pick blackberries then try to get back before the players retired to the hut to have their tea and cakes if we were lucky we might be able to scrounge a piece of cake or a sandwich,
when we played on the field mostly on the pitch ,the guy who used to roll the pitch to make it nice and flat used to come over the wall from the houses ajoining the pitch possibly Carwood terrace,balling and shouting ,but before he was anywhere near the top of the wall ,we were away ,he had no chance,
My mom also used to send my for six pennorth of mint from the houses on carwood terrace who had long gardens and grew mint,herbs, potatoes ruhbarb,two sticks and a paper of sugar to dip it in on the way home ,LOVELY what more can a lad want ??
ciao, Ian m

skippy
08-12-2006, 11:01 AM
Greybeard, the photo's are great, we lived where the tram is on the petre St & Canada St terminus picture for 5 years, before coming to Oz in 1970.
Jack & Elsie owned the beer off shop on the corner of Canada St at that time
& Billy limbs old butchers shop was at the corner of Carwood Rd & Petre St, it was run by Billy's old apprentice Jack when we were there, I never realised that trams ran on there, how did people get to Grimesthorpe if that was the terminus ?
Sounds like a question for you Arthur.

Greybeard
08-12-2006, 02:01 PM
I never realised that trams ran on there, how did people get to Grimesthorpe if that was the terminus ?
Sounds like a question for you Arthur.

The trams ran along Upwell street and Page Hall road off Brightside lane and on to Firth Park.

adnil
08-12-2006, 04:22 PM
Hi,
Your photos are great, the WOODHILL HOUSE is that the one that used to stand at the top of Smiths field it used to back on to a road , can't remember the name
ciao, Ian m

adnil
08-12-2006, 04:30 PM
Hi.
The PALFRYMANS had a good looking daughter ,can't remember her name though I know she had lovely blonde hair,her dad was a tall gent with a small black 'tach'.
ciao,Ian m,
I've just found out her name was Fay, These memories of our past are great.

skippy
12-12-2006, 02:33 AM
Sorry, it was Roy & Elsie who owned the corner shop at the bottom of Canada St, Roy then became a postman around the Firth Park area in the 70's.

Vulcaneer
12-12-2006, 02:27 PM
Mr Palfreyman was the one who put me off dummies as a child. When I was little I pointed at them hung behind his counter to my mum and asked for one. He said “You don’t want those – the cats have peed on them.” I never touched one again.

In the sixties we used to use the Palfreymans telephone at the back of their shop in emergencies. This was back in the days when nobody had their own phone. I can remember Mrs Palfreyman coming to our house very late at night to tell us to come to the phone as one of our relatives needed to talk to us urgently. It was the only way they could get in touch with us.

I remember she had a small dog that could tell the difference between margarine and butter – it wouldn’t eat bread and margarine.

shefflad
14-12-2006, 02:30 AM
The trams ran along Upwell street and Page Hall road off Brightside lane and on to Firth Park.
Hey I can remember the times you are talking abut. I went to hucklow Road School.................but maybe before your time. I worked at ESC if you remember that in 1957.................then i moved on
but I can remember getting on the tram in Sheffield City Centre and then having a long walk home to Shire green.

shefflad
14-12-2006, 02:31 AM
The trams ran along Upwell street and Page Hall road off Brightside lane and on to Firth Park.
Hey I can remember the times you are talking abut. I went to hucklow Road School.................but maybe before your time. I worked at ESC if you remember that in 1957.................then i moved on
but I can remember getting on the tram in Sheffield City Centre and then having a long walk home to Shiregreen. I am not shefflad but my son is................not sure how to register on this site.
My son must have left himself logged on and then I came on and replied to something he had put on .....Well see how things work

Sparkytom
31-12-2006, 06:59 AM
I've just come across this thread and found it most interesting. Smith's field was also my playground in the late 40's and early 50's, especially in winter for the sledging. Smth's field or the proper name Woodhill is an historical site as it was the only access from Attercliffe across the River Don and over to Osgathorpe. The main footpath being Carwood Road. Only recently some firm applied to build on the top of the field along Grimestyhorpe Rd. and the Council knocked it back because Grimesthorpe Road is heritage listed as an old Roman ridge.
I lived at Petre Street post office from 1941 to 1961 which was on the corner of Lyons Street and Petre Street number 160. Wondered if anyone knew the name of the barber whose shop was just down fron Sutherland Rd near a hardware shop, he gave me many a short back and sides in my younger days. On the subject of Mr Scott at the Sutherland Road baths, he was my swimming teacher for about 5 years, from his accent I think he must have come from around Newcastle area. Also the baths attendant "Fred" his name was actually Fred Shaw and lived at the top of Danville St. When he wanted us out of the pool there was nothing worse than being blasted with the high pressure cold water hose or flicked with a wet towel if we gave hime some back chat.

maria67
25-05-2008, 04:56 PM
Who knows anything about the history of Smith's Field or Smithies Field between Petre Street and Grimesthorpe Road?
I played there and picked blackberries in the 70s and 80s, and always wondered why there was an open space of this size there, next to factories on the one side and the then new Carwood estate on the other. My family, who lived in the area before the slum clearance, remember from the 40s and 50s, and I think they mentioned sonething about a cricket pavilion.

Here's a picture (http://www.riverland.net.au/~lawelect/icons/smithfld.jpg)

Why is the field there?
Why has it never been built on?
Does anyone else have memories of it?

ye me and my older bro and sis used to play on ther e wen we wa kids in earley 70`s.we lived on thorndon road

DIDO
25-05-2008, 09:27 PM
Who knows anything about the history of Smith's Field or Smithies Field between Petre Street and Grimesthorpe Road?
I played there and picked blackberries in the 70s and 80s, and always wondered why there was an open space of this size there, next to factories on the one side and the then new Carwood estate on the other. My family, who lived in the area before the slum clearance, remember from the 40s and 50s, and I think they mentioned sonething about a cricket pavilion.

Here's a picture (http://www.riverland.net.au/~lawelect/icons/smithfld.jpg)

Why is the field there?
Why has it never been built on?
Does anyone else have memories of it?

My Dad and I always used to watch the cricket just off Petre st, this would be about 1949/50

fleetwood
26-05-2008, 12:18 AM
Great reading on this thread and that last picture is priceless with it's little winding footpath. The houses that were on Grimesthorpe Rd can just be seen, I'm sure those houses must go back to the late 1800's or early 1900's. The cricket pitch as I recall was on the lower part of that field, the pavillion was a single storey wooden structure along with a tea shack where anybody could buy jugs of tea for about sixpence or so. The seating was a plank on stumps of wood running around the outfield. Even then I don't think the buildings were in the best shape but they did paint them all on somewhat of a regular basis. Then during the war there was the 'Barrage Baloon' site which I'm sure took up all of that area for the duration. If you were on that field and looked towards the houses I think you could see the back of the 'Hallcar', many a crisp and lemonade I had in the backyard of that pub on a warm Summer evening out with my parents. Petre St along that open area had the 'Champion Scissor' factory like forever before any other business's sprang up. I'll bet it's not around anymore.

marydennehy
27-05-2008, 02:00 AM
Anyone recall a family called McCarthy possibly in the 30's - attended st. catherines r.c. church - boys were alter boys, frank, bernard and jimmy and also a girl

fleetwood
05-06-2008, 08:07 AM
In addition to my original post, I wonder who owned that land? I'm thinking it might have been owned by the Duke of Norfolk or still owned for that matter. Apparently he owned land galore in and around Sheffield (to the tune of thousands of acres). When you purchase a house it was either Leasehold or Freehold and it was my understanding if your house was purchased Leasehold, all the groundrents that you pay periodically wind up in the coffer's of the likes of the Duke of Norfolk. I'm just throwing it out there, does this still exist in this day and age?

Douglas J
15-06-2008, 11:02 PM
The Duke of Norfolk seemed to own almost all of Pitsmoor so the name crops up on sets of deeds if you get to look at them. The freeholds and ground rents have been all sold off now to private investors. Lots of street names came from Norfolk sources.

Developers are planning to build blocks of flats on Smithies Field now: see http://www.burngreavemessenger.org/archives/june-2008-issue/

shelby46
16-06-2008, 03:06 AM
(Quote)"Going back up Petre st on the right there was the fusty sweet shop and then on the corner of Sutherland rd and Petre st Fairbrothers tailors, I went to school with Janet Fairbrother.
Tony Wagstaff, John Timmins, Stu Butler, Tony Saccomando, Phillip Gill all good swimmers because of that sadist Mr Scott."

I could have sworn Janet's family name was Fairweather, as I went to school with her younger sister Julie. Maybe my mind is playing up. I lived on the same road as John Timmins on Alliance Street before they were demolished, and Stu Butler and his family lived near us on the new Carwood Estate. A real trip down memory lane.

Redfyre
03-11-2008, 09:28 PM
I have fond memories of watching cricket at the ground (Smithies Field) just off Petre Street in the 1940s, when I was walking from Newhall to my grandmother's house in Danville Street. It was great fun to stop off and watch, and I think sometimes I even forgot that I was supposed to be on my way to Gran's! I remember Petre Street in those days had a local hero called Hancock, a ginger-haired lad. I think he was a fast bowler, but, anyway, he was a matchwinner on a number of occasions, I'm sure. Just up the road from the ground, there was a corner shop in the window of which there was always a team sheet and details of the next match. I have a feeling that Hancock had some connection with this shop. I wish I could find out more about him, and I winder if there are any of his relatives still around?
Incidentally, the references to Woodhill, a house on the top side of the ground, in fact on Grimesthorpe Road, reminds me that a great uncle of mine was, or so I was told, the occupant of either this house or one close to it. His name was James (Surname) and he was melting shop manager at Firth's in about 1896-1900. He married a woman from Upper Langwith in Derbyshire, and this woman was my grandfather's sister. I remember that when I was told about the Grimesthorpe Road link, I went to look at the house, and, frankly, it didn't seem half as grand as I had imagined it.

PopT
03-11-2008, 11:37 PM
Many years ago I lived below Smith's field and my wife dug up a workhouse penny in the garden.

I was told that people on the way to the workhouse used to call at the miner's cottages on Passhouses Road where they could get a free drink and some bread which was left out for them by Mr Pass the mine owner.

From there they would cut over Smithies fields on their way to the Union Workhouse at Fir vale down below.

The workhouse token must have been dropped by some unfortunate on his way from there after earning it, working in the workhouse fields or there.

I believe they could be exchanged for bread at the workhouse.

Love to hear more about this and Smithies Field.

Good post, FHain

Every year we paid our ground rent to the Duke of Norfolk through his estate office on Staffford Road off City Road.

Happy Days! PopT

skippy
04-11-2008, 09:26 AM
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'Hallcar', many a crisp and lemonade I had in the backyard of that pub on a warm Summer evening out with my parents.

I used to take our kids there too when it was warm.
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rf2690
06-11-2008, 08:44 AM
[QUOTE=fleetwood;
'Hallcar', many a crisp and lemonade I had in the backyard of that pub on a warm Summer evening out with my parents.

I used to take our kids there too when it was warm.
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i still have many a lemonade in there trev (HIC) did you ever slide down smithies field on cardboard.and am i right in thinking there was also horses on the field.can remember the pigeon huts before they built bicc cables.taffinders had one of the houses that over looked smithies field.

skippy
06-11-2008, 11:45 AM
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Trev, did you ever slide down smithies field on cardboard.and am i right in thinking there was also horses on the field?

Never went there sheila until after we got married, the Hallcar was my local from 65 to 70, then we came here.

susan 827
06-11-2008, 11:13 PM
[QUOTE=skippy;4263631]
i still have many a lemonade in there trev (HIC) did you ever slide down smithies field on cardboard.and am i right in thinking there was also horses on the field.can remember the pigeon huts before they built bicc cables.taffinders had one of the houses that over looked smithies field.

i remember sliding down the field on cardboard nearly split my difference :hihi::hihi: mi mam almost had a breakdown when she saw the blood 15 stitches and 5 weeks later i were back on cardboard as though nowt had appened:rolleyes::rolleyes:

glen
30-11-2008, 02:37 PM
(Quote)"Going back up Petre st on the right there was the fusty sweet shop and then on the corner of Sutherland rd and Petre st Fairbrothers tailors, I went to school with Janet Fairbrother.
Tony Wagstaff, John Timmins, Stu Butler, Tony Saccomando, Phillip Gill all good swimmers because of that sadist Mr Scott."

I could have sworn Janet's family name was Fairweather, as I went to school with her younger sister Julie. Maybe my mind is playing up. I lived on the same road as John Timmins on Alliance Street before they were demolished, and Stu Butler and his family lived near us on the new Carwood Estate. A real trip down memory lane.
Hi Shelby I used to live at number 84 Petre St right next door to where the tailors were but then it was a fish shop owned by the Cottons.

brian1941
30-11-2008, 03:05 PM
I have fond memories of watching cricket at the ground (Smithies Field) just off Petre Street in the 1940s, when I was walking from Newhall to my grandmother's house in Danville Street. It was great fun to stop off and watch, and I think sometimes I even forgot that I was supposed to be on my way to Gran's! I remember Petre Street in those days had a local hero called Hancock, a ginger-haired lad. I think he was a fast bowler, but, anyway, he was a matchwinner on a number of occasions, I'm sure. Just up the road from the ground, there was a corner shop in the window of which there was always a team sheet and details of the next match. I have a feeling that Hancock had some connection with this shop. I wish I could find out more about him, and I winder if there are any of his relatives still around?
Incidentally, the references to Woodhill, a house on the top side of the ground, in fact on Grimesthorpe Road, reminds me that a great uncle of mine was, or so I was told, the occupant of either this house or one close to it. His name was James (Surname) and he was melting shop manager at Firth's in about 1896-1900. He married a woman from Upper Langwith in Derbyshire, and this woman was my grandfather's sister. I remember that when I was told about the Grimesthorpe Road link, I went to look at the house, and, frankly, it didn't seem half as grand as I had imagined it.
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HI REDFYRE, I TOOK A TRIP AROUND BURNGREAVE AND GRIMESTHORPE
ON WEDNESDAY 24TH NOV. I REALLY DID ENJOY THE DAY OUT.
I WENT ON SMITHS FIELD TO LOOK BACK ON THE GOOD TIMES ,
WE USE TO WATCH CRICKET ON A SUNDAY .
WHEN THEIR WAS`NT A MATCH ON WE WOULD GO FURTHER OVER THE
FIELD WITH MATES, WAIT FOR LASSES TO ARRIVE <<NO WE DID`NT >>.
THEY WOULD BRING THERE RADIO`S AND SIT LISTENING TO THE POP
MUSIC, MUCKING ABOUT--SLIDDING DOWN THEM HILLS ON THE HOT
SUMMERS. GOOD DAYS.

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