http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,6-1922429,00.html

Ye Gods.

This is truly pathetic.

I believe that when soemone manages to analyse to this degree the problem lies not with the subject of their analysis but lies within their critical faculties.

What they analyse acts like a Rorschach(sp) test - it tells us more about the author than it does about the subject.

Quite sad that a work of fantasy fiction (unless Skull Island exists... :) ) can generate such a silly article deemed worthy of publication by a high brow newspaper.

Joe

I gave up reading the replies to that for fear of getting on my soapbox again ;)

It was encouraging to read the first reply though - from a black woman who believed that the worst black stereotyping occurs at the hands of black film producers :hihi:

Anyway.... Is there any such thing as an oriental negative stereotype? I believe this section of our community are missing out on the rides freely given by the racism bandwaggon, a situation which should be addressed in te interests of racial equality :D

:shakes: Why can't the world just be populated by people?

Originally posted by Strix
Anyway.... Is there any such thing as an oriental negative stereotype?

Godzilla ?

Originally posted by Strix

Anyway.... Is there any such thing as an oriental negative stereotype?

Ooooh......what about Fu Manchu and the hideous Yellow Peril of Sax Rohmer?

Now there was a good negative oriental stereotype to get your teeth in to....

The Return of Fu Manchu,
The Bride of Fu Manchu,
The Curse of Fu Manchu,
The Mother-in-Law of Fu Manchu,
Fu Manchu meets Godzilla....

Sorry...getting carried away there.

Originally posted by nick2
Godzilla ?
how does a dinosaur equate to an oriental person? :confused:

Aren't we talking about stereotypes Joe?

Isn't Fu Manchu an individual, and not representative of a group of people? negative or otherwise ;)

When I was a kid, a bunch of us won a free pizza by answering a trivia question on this show. Actually, I think we were just able to stampede to the phone faster than the adults.

http://www.bobwilkins.net/creaturefeatures.htm

The question? What city has been destroyed the most times in the movies?

Answer: Tokyo.

They even delivered the pizza and everything. Great fun for a group of 12 year olds.

Thank you Godzilla. I owe you one.

:) Sierra

Originally posted by Strix
how does a dinosaur equate to an oriental person? :confused:

He's from Japan.

Originally posted by Strix
Aren't we talking about stereotypes Joe?

Isn't Fu Manchu an individual, and not representative of a group of people? negative or otherwise ;)

Well, I'd say he was a negative stereotype, in teh same way that Sherlock Holmes stories occasionally featured Chinese men running opium dens and such. Stereotypical, almost cartoonish, baddies.

Fu Manchu was representative of the thirties / forties fixation with the 'Yellow Peril' that inhabited a lot of adventure stories of the first half of the last century.

As a character in fiction he was symbol rather than character; he was always coming back despite having been apparaetly killed off, and manifested the so called 'oriental' traits with his wiles, cunning and cruelty.

And it's almost certain that he didn't have a teddy bear and probably kicked small, cute puppies.

:)

Originally posted by JoeP
.....And it's almost certain that he didn't have a teddy bear and probably kicked small, cute puppies.

:)
Did he have a cat..... like all the best baddies? ;)

Originally posted by Strix
Did he have a cat..... like all the best baddies? ;)

I'm sure he ate a few..... :D

StarSparkle :)

Originally posted by Strix
Anyway.... Is there any such thing as an oriental negative stereotype?

Originally posted by nick2
Godzilla ?

I was always under the impression that Godzilla was a way of telling the story of nuclear attack through cinema. Only Japan has ever experienced a nuclear strike, and the agressor was America, so this is their interpretation of the American's invasion into their lives.

Blooming Racists!!


I always thought that King Kong (the original) was a wry look at how Victorians viewed the natural world and their dominance over it, with catastrophic effect.

Also in most ways, it is a tragic love story: A love with hopless and tragic consequences...

My god. Some of the themes are timeless!

The article serves as a reminder that there are always self-righteous bores and demented bloody fools willing to find 'racism' everywhere. The MacPherson Report was a gift from God to such perfectly dreadful types. Now, organisations may be deemed 'institutionally racist'. How is this possible if organisations do not possess the 'agency' to formulate and act upon decisions? Only sentient, individual human beings can be social actors, and therefore 'racist'. What next, inanimate objects? The Golliwog is already regarded as anathema by the stinking bores. I always rather liked Golliwogs, and had a small collection of pot ones playing various musical instruments when a child. My Grandmother saved coupons to purchase them from Robertson's the Jam makers. They were not mocking depictions of black people in my mind, just nice ornaments. Oh dear, the panjandrums of the 'race relations' industry will read this as 'Confessions of a Hitler Youth boy'...