is it a scon or scone??

Nice to see Ive indirectly started a poll!
Wondered how long it'd take :D
anywayz its scone!
Scone scone scone scone SCONE

I can see this turning into how to wind mosh up subject at next meet :wink:

well you were the one who put the idea into my head! and i have had thiis discusion with many people many times and i want proof that more people say scone instead of scon!!

so im SCONE all the way!!

D'oh!

People have been bitching about this one for donkey's years... :lol:

It's a SCONE for christ sake! :lol:

Only posh people and Southerners call it SCON.

Here's a joke... What did the man say to the Coyote when he saw the Road Runner speeding past? "S'gone" :lol:

of course it's scone.

Otherwise, you'd call people up using the phon.

Originally posted by Andy
of course it's scone.

Otherwise, you'd call people up using the phon.

LMAO! :lol:

Nice one Andy! :lol:

The 'e' on the end isn't there for nothing. Andy makes this point well with the "phone" example.

Actually, it's pronounced SCOON (as in goon). visited Scone Palace in Perth last year and they assured me this was the correct pronunciation.

didnt the goodies do a thing on this in the 70s:thumbsup:

Originally posted by t020
The 'e' on the end isn't there for nothing. Andy makes this point well with the "phone" example.

So the 'e' is there for a reason...hmmmm let me see.

So when we have gone,it should be gon as in scone and not scon.

Originally posted by Killian
Actually, it's pronounced SCOON (as in goon). visited Scone Palace in Perth last year and they assured me this was the correct pronunciation.


that must be the jock way ofsaying it i'm a scone man

Originally posted by t020
The 'e' on the end isn't there for nothing. Andy makes this point well with the "phone" example.
I'd love to hear you saying "gone".

I personally don't care, I know what people mean if they say "scon" and I know what they mean if they say "scone". I'm not even sure which one I say, maybe I alternate the 2 or something.

Originally posted by tittyheed
that must be the jock way ofsaying it i'm a scone man

subtle humour wasted again. don't know why i bother sometimes.

I immediately lose my appetite if I am offered a 'scon'. It sounds so untempting and lifeless, whereas 'scone', on the other hand, sounds so promising and sensual.

I love scones but detest scons.

You may well think that they are one and the same, but to me, oh no!

I asked the maid in gentle tone
to bring to me a buttered scone
the silly girl has only gone
and brought instead a buttered scone

That must have tasted really bad
a scon is so pathetic, lad!
t'were a scone then it would be
a proud and perfect thing to me.

Originally posted by Rich


Only posh people and Southerners call it SCON.



Odd, I always thought the posh and southern way was scone. I've always said scon, but i'm not going to complain about the way other people speak. As long as they dont complain about the way I speak.

scone.... ofcourse!! :>

Its scone before you eat it, then its scon after it has been eaten :)

Originally posted by Andy78
Odd, I always thought the posh and southern way was scone. I've always said scon, but i'm not going to complain about the way other people speak. As long as they dont complain about the way I speak.
I think Scon is more posh, theres nowt posh about the way I say Scone...i manage to fit a few extra vowels in there, but Scon sounds posh in any accent!
xxx

it scone! posher people say scon!

lol

I'm with Mosh.

*southern pseudo-posh ponce accent*
'Ah, darling, would one parse me one of those lurvely scons?'

Ugh.

*proper real Sheffield accent*
'Oy, mom, chuck us one a them scones'

Just sounds right doesnt it.

I think there is some confusion so I haven't voted yet.

I read it as Scone being the southern way of saying in as in tone or cone

and Scon being the northern way of saying it as in gone.

Reading the poll results and your following comments I think there is a mix up perhaps?

I say Scone as in tone, or cone which I believe is the posh way of saying it as people up here have always laughed at me when I say it, calling me posh (I'm from down south darling). So all you northeners who use the 'gone' argument I ask you how you pronounce tone and cone? do you say ton or con??

In actual fact, it's all pointless, my teacher at school looked up the phonetic way of saying it and it is scoon aparently and scone castle has it right. Nothing to do with scottish accents so I am told.


*southern pseudo-posh ponce accent*
'Ah, darling, would one parse me one of those lurvely scons?'

Ugh.

*proper real Sheffield accent*
'Oy, mom, chuck us one a them scones'

Just sounds right doesnt it.


Don't know where you get this impression. And enough of the insults thank you. Posh southerners would never say scon. And most northerners I know say Scon.

Are people confused, I am!

anyway its all point less!

Originally posted by Skatiechik
Its scone before you eat it, then its scon after it has been eaten :)

:D :clap:

Originally posted by Mosherchik
I think Scon is more posh, theres nowt posh about the way I say Scone...i manage to fit a few extra vowels in there, but Scon sounds posh in any accent!
xxx

but i'm northern and not posh. I say scon. I think it just varies from area to area. I don't think the north/south, or posh thing comes into it.
This is a fun game though. Can anyone think of any other words we can discuss?

I was brought up hearing SCON so that's what I say now....although I rarely eat 'em, so it doesn't matter much.

Originally posted by Andy78
Can anyone think of any other words we can discuss?

Ah yes - tongue! Me and my boyfriend have this argument regularly. I'm from Doncaster and pronounce it "tung" while everyone else here says "tong".

It's OK - he gets ridiculed for it when we go back to Doncaster or when my mates come to visit!

who added the new poll?

i didnt want that!! i only wanted scone or scon!! not other! otherwise i would have put it!!

Originally posted by Fletch
who added the new poll?

i didnt want that!! i only wanted scone or scon!! not other! otherwise i would have put it!!
I'm afraid I did. If there wasn't an both/other/neither option I wouldn't have voted. I'll get rid of it if it's bothering you.

its ok

ill let you off this time!!

Many years ago I was in a band and we had a song about this very issue! The chorus went...

it's plain to see the ****ing E, you're driving me crazy...It's a scone!!

Wonder why we never made it??

I've always pronounced it Scone.

Originally posted by angel_b
Ah yes - tongue! Me and my boyfriend have this argument regularly. I'm from Doncaster and pronounce it "tung" while everyone else here says "tong".

It's OK - he gets ridiculed for it when we go back to Doncaster or when my mates come to visit!

So does that mean your from "DUNGcaster"?:wink::D

Originally posted by claycraft
So does that mean your from "DUNGcaster"?:wink::D

I think that's an appropriate name, especially considering I used to live near a pig farm that got pretty ripe in warm weather!

Originally posted by Sidla
I'm afraid I did. If there wasn't an both/other/neither option I wouldn't have voted. I'll get rid of it if it's bothering you.

erm if you didn't call it scon or scone then what would you call it?!?!?!?! :P

A scoon. I don't say scoon, but others might as already discussed.

We did a bit about this today, and the vast majority went with Scone, as opposed to scon.

Now, is it a breadcake or a teacake?

I'd never heard of breadcakes before I lived in Sheffield. A teacake is like a hot-cross bun without a cross.

Originally posted by Toby
We did a bit about this today, and the vast majority went with Scone, as opposed to scon.

Now, is it a breadcake or a teacake?

i'd never heard of either before coming to sheffield
in leicester it's a cob!

Originally posted by Toby
We did a bit about this today, and the vast majority went with Scone, as opposed to scon.

Now, is it a breadcake or a teacake?
Both different items, a teacake has currents in it whilst a breadcake is plain.

Originally posted by Bedhead
i'd never heard of either before coming to sheffield
in leicester it's a cob!

And across the Pennines in Lancashire a breadcake is a balmcake - as featured regularly in Coronation Street :

"ave you got them bacon balms from t'corner shop yet?"

That'll be barm not balm.

Actually in Oldham, where I'm from originally, everything along those lines is called a muffin. Go into a chippy in Oldham and ask for a chip butty and you'll be laughed out. It's a chip muffin.

And before anyone mentions chocolate/blueberry muffins, they're american so are null and void before you start ;)

An argument about this very subject was almost the cause of me and a girlfriend splitting up many years ago! Since then I've decided best policy is to let it lie.

It is muffin though ;)

Originally posted by Fantomas
That'll be barm not balm.


Actually, I think you'll find that both spellings are acceptable.

Below are a couple of entries from the online dictionary of slang: http://www.peevish.co.uk/slang/b.htm

balm Noun. A bread bun or roll. Cf. 'balmcake'.

barmcake Noun. 1. A lighthearted term for a fool or idiot.
2. A bread bun. Also barm cake. [North-west use]

Hmm....i say both pronounciations tbh, but here's one

Bury: is it pronounced burry or berry?

I say berry, but my 'rents are southerners even though I was born and bred here, and all the other Sheffs I know say Burried and look at me weird when I don't.


????????????

Originally posted by Fantomas
It is muffin though ;)
That's the stupidest one I've ever heard.

It would be good to build up a comprehensive list as to what everyone around the country calls cobs.

Originally posted by Rich

Only posh people and Southerners call it SCON.


I call it a SCON does that make me posh? As I'm certainly not a southerner. :o

In relation to the tongue debate...it's pronounced 'tung' although having been at boarding school in Nottingham I realise it's very Midland-esque to pronounce it 'tong'. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Foxxx

In actual fact, it's all pointless, my teacher at school looked up the phonetic way of saying it and it is scoon aparently and scone castle has it right. Nothing to do with scottish accents so I am told.


Don't know where you get this impression. And enough of the insults thank you. Posh southerners would never say scon. And most northerners I know say Scon.

Are people confused, I am!

surely, this has to be some kind of mix up. my original post concerning Scone Palace (not castle) was a joke. the stone of scone (or stone of destiny) was placed on Moot Hill in the grounds of the Palace in the 9th Century and was named after the town of Scone (now almost a suburb of Perth). exactly when the first scone recipe evolved, i do not know, but the town of Scone has obviously no connections whatsoever with the cake recipe. Scots make a scone out of potato and fry it up for breakfast, which they call a tattie scone (pronounced scon), whereas the town and the palace are pronounced Scoon.

Originally posted by starchild
I call it a SCON does that make me posh? As I'm certainly not a southerner. :o

In relation to the tongue debate...it's pronounced 'tung' although having been at boarding school in Nottingham I realise it's very Midland-esque to pronounce it 'tong'. :rolleyes:
See, the scone/scon debate doesn't bother me in the slightest, but I'm finding myself getting extremely worked up about people pronouncing 'tongue', 'tung'. It's an 'o' not a 'u'!!!!! :mad: :mad:

Ironic really.

Its Scone, tongue and a breadcake is plain, while a teacake has currants in it! Or at least thats what i call them all anyway!

Originally posted by karandak
Its Scone, tongue and a breadcake is plain, while a teacake has currants in it! Or at least thats what i call them all anyway!

Can't argue with those.:clap:

However, what about: "Beauchief" as in the gal with the sheep or "Beechief", as in buzzin winged thing?:confused:

and

"Owlerton" or "Ollerton" as I've heard both? :?

My dictionary states that scon is the northern pronunciation and scone the southern but I'm from the south and pronounce it scon :rolleyes:

As for tongue it doesn't give any options Sid - it says it's tung :P

Grrrr!!!! It's "tong"!! :mad:

I don't care how you pronounce 'scone', but it's definately 'tong'. And breadcakes are cobs.

Originally posted by Sidla
Grrrr!!!! It's "tong"!! :mad:

I don't care how you pronounce 'scone', but it's definately 'tong'. And breadcakes are cobs.

Do you pronouce Pete Tong as Pete "Tongue"?!? ;)

As for breadcakes/barmcakes,cobs and muffins... they are bread rolls. They can also be called a butty if they have chips in them.

I think I say scone and scon?!?:loopy:

Originally posted by Zamo
Do you pronouce Pete Tong as Pete "Tongue"?!? ;)

As for breadcakes/barmcakes,cobs and muffins... they are bread rolls. They can also be called a butty if they have chips in them.

I think I say scone and scon?!?:loopy:

No because it hasn't got a 'ue' on the end.

It is the ue that makes it 'Tung' not tong.

Does anyone pronounce it 'tong-u'??

Oh the wonderful English language!

Originally posted by Zamo
Do you pronouce Pete Tong as Pete "Tongue"?!? ;)
Yes because it's the same word!

This thread's gone Pete Tong now.

Scone:

Rhymes with Stone or Gone?

Absolutely, 100% certain it should be Scone/Cone, and that 2/3rds of you are just wrong, and a little backward.

Been done mate
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?p=2132318&highlight=scone#post2132318

Been done mate
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?p=2132318&highlight=scone#post2132318

the thought came after reading that thread...which was actually about pronouncing 'poem' (is the fog clearing a bit now?)

:)

it was after reading that thread...which was actually about pronouncing 'poem' (keep up fella;))

I think it's you who should keep up - there's already a thread about this...

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=205286

Link dunt work Bas :(

I think it's you who should keep up - there's already a thread about this...

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=205286

there are lots of duplicate threads..but by referring me to a thread which had gone off topic slightly, the 'been done mate' statement wasnt all that bright...

but thanks for the link. I dont seem to be able to access the fncker though, so i cant check out your hilarious and 'whacky' comments sure to be contained within:)

Link dunt work Bas :(
That thread might have been deleted for some reason. I get that message when a thread's been removed.

look it's scone/gone - or do you eat your scone/stone with a cream tea after cucumber sandwiches??? ;-)

seriously, how do you decide? Is it a north/south divide?
I say scone/gone cos that's what my folks said...

there are lots of duplicate threads..but by referring me to a thread which had gone off topic slightly, the 'been done mate' statement wasnt all that bright...
lol, how ironic.

Anyone who thinks it rhymes with stone is frankly a bit fruity and should be locked up well away from decent and normal folk.

That thread might have been deleted for some reason. I get that message when a thread's been removed.

Pheew - I thought I'd got another ban :hihi:

you get that too when you're having a SF holiday :D :thumbsup:

Anyone who thinks it rhymes with stone is frankly a bit fruity and should be locked up well away from decent and normal folk.


If it rhymed with gone it would have been spelled sconne. :P :P :P

lol, how ironic.

Not at all, going off topic is what we all do, lots of times, on lots of threads, this one being no exception.

my reference to you being a little dim comes from the comparison between:

a thread containing references to how we pronounce words, 'scone' being among them, and a thread actually about the pronounciation of the word 'scone' in particular...these are two discrete things.

the thread you linked to contained a conversation about it, but this was by no means exclusive or definitive.

therefore it hadnt 'been done'.

me going 'off' in my reference to another thread going 'off' would only be ironic if that was my main point.

which it wasnt.

Cheers:)

Oi you lot!

Shurrup already.

Not at all, going off topic is what we all do, lots of times, on lots of threads, this one being no exception.

my reference to you being a little dim comes from the comparison between:

a thread containing references to how we pronounce words, 'scone' being among them, and a thread actually about the pronounciation of the word 'scone' in particular...these are two discrete things.

the thread you linked to contained a conversation about it, but this was by no means exclusive or definitive.

therefore it hadnt 'been done'.

me going 'off' in my reference to another thread going 'off' would only be ironic if that was my main point.

which it wasnt.

Cheers:)

Would you like a spade to help you with your digging?

Or perhaps you'd like to post the same thing twice?

Or perhaps you'd like to post the same thing twice?
I would like to.

Oi you lot!

Shurrup already.

my reference to you being a little dim comes from the comparison between:

a thread containing references to how we pronounce words, 'scone' being among them, and a thread actually about the pronounciation of the word 'scone' in particular...these are two discrete things.

Ahhhhhhhh well, now you put it like that! I can see the genius you demonstrated so clearly in starting the thread now. I can't believe I was so blind! You're right too, this really is, "THE ultimate question". Sorry to have been so, 'dim' before. Consider me 'told'. Thanks for the education, too.

</sarcasm>
:rolleyes:

If it rhymed with gone it would have been spelled sconne. :P :P :P

Five...four ...Three...two...err.....own....???? :D :P :P :D :P

Scone Palace in Perth is pronounced 'Scoon'.

One doesn't begin with two consonants ;)

i pronounce it scon

scoon, as in stone of

oops should have read the whole thread

I neatly sidestep this contentious issue in cafes by saying instead "black forest gateau with a large dollop of ice cream thank you please." :love:


It's worse in Scotland. They have the Stone of Scone which would be so cool if it rhymed, but they call it scooooon.

Im a rough-arse from Parson Cross so I say "Scuwen."

Ok, so I went out with the other half today and on the way back I popped into the Snake Inn with him and had a cuppa and a scone...

Great price 2.50 each, but the scone was hard and quite flat...Its got me thinking about scones and the best ones I have had and the worst.

With cream without

Homemade Jam or Supermarket

Big thick ones or Flat smaller ones

Where is the best you have had and where are the worst !!!

The ones I had in Cornwall were nice, my grandma makes really good ones too! I can't really remember the worst scone :p Il have a think!

Chatsworth scones in the courtyard tea shop are excellent.:razz:

I'm quite partial to my own homemade ones.

Well I would be wouldn't I? :D

Cornish scones with clotted cream & Farm jam every time

On a recent visit to London I had a cream tea in Harrods, £15, a bit extravagant you might think but it was enough for two and you get what you pay for as they say.

It was a one-off and worth it in my eyes considering what people were eating at the sushi bar.

:gag:

On a recent visit to London I had a cream tea in Harrods, £15, a bit extravagant you might think but it was enough for two and you get what you pay for as they say.

Obviously you dont get what you pay for, as no scone is worth £7.50:o

Obviously you dont get what you pay for, as no scone is worth £7.50:o

Pot of tea, huge scone each, jam, cream all served on best bone china and by excellent staff a great treat if you as me.

It doesn’t hurt to “push the boat out” once in a while and the OP did ask what was the best scone you had.

Yes and that sounds wonderful..Hmm tea in Harrods, ived in London 32 years and never had that haha

Best I have had was of course cornwall...What have we got in Sheffield or sourrounding areas...Does anyone agree that the tea must be great too ?

Not wishing to boast but my homemade cherry ones are very nice. Two inches deep with a crunchy dopping served warmed with real butter......................... I now have the urge to bake:hihi:

Pantry Green in Rotherham big as boulders and they have white , brown or Cheese and less then a pound

Cheese scones are clearly superior.

Best I ever had was a jam and cream scone at Sid's cafe in Holmfirth. It's the cafe they use in Last of the summer wine.
It was big enough to share between two.

On the subject does anyone know anywhere that sells wholemeal scones? They do exist but I can't find any anywhere.

But the GREAT debate is, was it a sc-OWN, sc-ON or a sc-ORN?

Scoo- wan. Wi' butter and jam and a cuppa.

I say Scown...But then I am a southerner !!

Hubbie says Scon but then hes born and bred sheffield...

haha

I ahve had one in Sids, gorgeous, but I am no nearer finding a good scown...in Sheffield, great tea and lubbly cream to go with it.

has anyone been subjected to 'squirty cream' on theirs ? YECH:gag:


But the GREAT debate is, was it a sc-OWN, sc-ON or a sc-ORN?

Cheese sones are dreadful, I mean seriously, what does anyone want to eat one of them for ?

Obviously you dont get what you pay for, as no scone is worth £7.50:o

That's not true, there's occasions when I'd pay a hundred for a decent scone.

Scones, fish and chips, and steak and kidney pie (the one that comes in a can from fray bentos), everything ells I can get shipped in, for instance a can of baked beans costs me about 85p.

i have to say scone with cream down here in cornwall are by far the best yummy:love:

yep cornwall have that magic ingrediant, but...Does sheffield have anything to compare...It seems not *sigh* oh well

Best scone's ever ARE home made ones, dead easy to make, and only takes a few minuets for them to dissappear with a liberal dollop of Jam n cream....yumm!:hihi:

Best scone's ever ARE home made ones, dead easy to make, and only takes a few minuets for them to dissappear with a liberal dollop of Jam n cream....yumm!:hihi:

I hope they are not burnt scones or do you just burn puddings.

:D

:hihi:nah..malcy, I just burn Yorkshire puds as habit, tis a known fact not myth.
Do a flaming good sunday roast though and can actually cook, unlike the new generation of microwave fiends. Why buy scones when you can make em yourselves for pennies?

Anyone willing to give up their recipes.

my ex wife makes the best scones in the world

:suspect:maybe? Whats it worth?
If you were to attempt to make scones for your loved one, then I'll give it gladly. Awwww

Ok, so I went out with the other half today and on the way back I popped into the Snake Inn with him and had a cuppa and a scone...

Great price 2.50 each, but the scone was hard and quite flat...Its got me thinking about scones and the best ones I have had and the worst.

With cream without

Homemade Jam or Supermarket

Big thick ones or Flat smaller ones

Where is the best you have had and where are the worst !!!

The cafe at Nichol end on Derwentwater makes huge scones every day. They are fantastic after a walk around the lake.

Blue Moon scones for me! They have loads of fruit in them and come with really nice home made jam. I love scones!

Sheffield ?? No ??

I would make some but I am talking scones, not rock cakes...Literally rocks too haha

the ridgeway cottage industry centre has a great little tea shop. they do a variety of scones, plain, date and wallnut etc. they come with cream and jam...... really niiiice!!

I say Scown...But then I am a southerner !!

Hubbie says Scon but then hes born and bred sheffield...

haha

I ahve had one in Sids, gorgeous, but I am no nearer finding a good scown...in Sheffield, great tea and lubbly cream to go with it.

has anyone been subjected to 'squirty cream' on theirs ? YECH:gag:

But then I'm a Southerner and I say "Scon". According to a linguistics course I once did the pronounciation differences of scone are unique in that they don't conform to the boundaries of class or region

I am a southerner but I say scowne...LOL

Scoo- wan. Wi' butter and jam and a cuppa.

Scoo-wan it is.

Lmao

I still dont know where to go and get a good scowne around here !! hahahahahaha

Clotted cream and strawberry jam in the tea room in Mortehoe in Devon.

But come the revolution I think people who call them 'Scons' should be first against the wall.

Cooplands sell really nice scones,ask for derby ones really scrummy.
Other than that home made every time.

Right then, obviousy its homemade so come on you bakers,,Gimme a recipie !

My mam's freshly baked plain scones still warm from the oven with butter on (has to be real butter not marge or that utterly butterly fake butter)
Great now I want scones.
On a similar note, I once met a girl from Barnsley who swore that teacakes were what I (and most other sane people) would call breadcakes or bread baps. We asked her "Do you go into the chippy and ask for chips and a teacake?"

it's scone pronounced sc-own.
Anyway best scones are Welsh scones. But i am partial to one with clotted cream and strawberry jam.

I've only been making scones for the last couple of years as I never realised how easy they are!Any fool could make them.This is the basic recipe,but you can add what you like e.g grated cheese and mustard powder,herbs,pesto,olives,raisins ,cherries and mixed spice,apple and cinnamon,dried apricot etc.
you can add a little sugar-but not too much-for the sweet versions, but you don't need to.(makes approx 9 medium sized ones I find)
*8oz self raising flour
*1 teaspoon baking powder
*1 1/2 0z marg/butter
*milk to bind together
1.)rub the fat into the flour and baking powder to make "breadcrumbs" using hands or mixer.
2.)Add enough milk to bind,so it is stiff enough to shape into balls with hands.
3.)Add any other ingredients you chose to use.
4.)Shape into balls place on a greased,floured baking tray and flatten somewhat(if you want a golden finish,smear over with milk)
5.)bake in a oven at about 220c for about 10 mins-or untill they sound hollowish when you knock them(don't worry its fairly obvious when their done!)


For those who don't bake regularly and are put of by weights,dont be as an oz is approx one heaped table spoon for flour or sugar.
1 1/2 oz marg = a dollop and a half!!!(imagine the shape and size of 1oz of the flour,if this helps!) nothings set in stone,as long as the basic ratios are vaguely right.If its too sticky,you need a bit more flour.its all trial and error.
These scones are yummy,especialy straight from the oven,They are not like the ones my mum made,not sure which I prefer!

OOOOh please everyone give my recipe a go and you'll see how easy it is,maybe you could think me up some other combinations,mm got me thinking now,pizza scones!

Bumping ,as I put this recipe up late last night/early this morning.And I don want it go get missed! Anyone made any yet?
Just think, in 20 mins from reading this,you could be scoffing them!

This one always throws up a debate - what do you think?

You don't have an option for those from north of the border, scoon

'Scon' always sounds a little home counties to me. I'd always assumed that 'scone' (to rhyme with 'own') was the northern version, and 'scon' was mostly southern. Though I was informed the other day that the former is the posh northern pronunciation. News to me though.

I've always said 'on' rather than 'own'. I too thought it was 'own' up north and 'on' everywhere else.

'Scon' always sounds a little home counties to me. I'd always assumed that 'scone' (to rhyme with 'own') was the northern version, and 'scon' was mostly southern. Though I was informed the other day that the former is the posh northern pronunciation. News to me though.

That's interesting...I always thought the long 'o' was the southern pronunciation, in line with longer 'a' sounds (barth, grarse, etc).

Its" own" for Yorkshire and "on" for down South.:)

Me and mine have always said Sk-own... with Sk-on being the posh/southern way of saying it, but when you meet people from elsewhere in the country they seem to think "own" is the posh way.



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I say scon but my mother and grandmother both from Sheffield, always said scone......I had a boyfriend once that always called me "Scone" ,cos it rhymed with Joan:roll:

That's interesting...I always thought the long 'o' was the southern pronunciation, in line with longer 'a' sounds (barth, grarse, etc).
I only associate the long southern vowels with the 'ar' sound: grarse, barth, parth, larf. Not that I've thought that through, of course; I'm sure there are a few other examples that'll knock that theory on its head.

'Scon' sounds genteel to me, in a 'more tea, vicar?' sort of way.

I say scon but my mother and grandmother both from Sheffield, always said scone......I had a boyfriend once that always called me "Scone" ,cos it rhymed with Joan:roll:

Awwwww....likkle Joan the scone.

Sc-on for me, being a posh Southener.

And before anyone asks, jam on first. No arguments.

Sc-on for me, being a posh Southener.

And before anyone asks, jam on first. No arguments.

What and butter on afterwards...strange.

What and butter on afterwards...strange.

Jam first, then cream, I reckon.

Jam first, then cream, I reckon.

I must be common then, I never have any cream in the house.

In a similar discussion on another (non-Sheffield) forum, a woman who'd moved from the south to Sheffield stated that she'd had to deliberately adapt her accent because the locals couldn't understand her pronunciation of words such as 'raspberry' (rarrrsberry). Apparently throwing off her southern long vowel sounds made it easier to get served in shops and cafes.

I did point out that Sheffielders do encounter the odd southerner from time to time with no apparent communication issues, but she seemed fairly adamant about the difficulties she'd experienced.

I must be common then, I never have any cream in the house.

Nope, me neither, but if you go down to Devon you'll not be able to move for the cream teas...

I can't cope with the jam, personally. So I just have scone and cream. So wrong, and yet so right.

My other half's family are from Lancashire and they think I am some sort of weirdo for pronouncing them as 's-cones'.

In a similar discussion on another (non-Sheffield) forum, a woman who'd moved from the south to Sheffield stated that she'd had to deliberately adapt her accent because the locals couldn't understand her pronunciation of words such as 'raspberry' (rarrrsberry). Apparently throwing off her southern long vowel sounds made it easier to get served in shops and cafes.

I did point out that Sheffielders do encounter the odd southerner from time to time with no apparent communication issues, but she seemed fairly adamant about the difficulties she'd experienced.

Embarrassing anecdote coming up...when I first moved to Sheffield I was working in a (very busy, very noisy) pub and was totally baffled by the bloke asking me for a cork.

I couldn't understand why on earth he'd want a cork and was brandishing a wine bottle with a quizzical look when he totally lost his rag and yelled 'A CORK! As in a diet CORK!!'.

Never have I felt such a fool.

My other half's family are from Lancashire and they think I am some sort of weirdo for pronouncing them as 's-cones'.

When I say 'them' I mean the scones not my other half's family...:suspect:

My other half's family are from Lancashire and they think I am some sort of weirdo for pronouncing them as 's-cones'.

They must think your 's-trange'.

From Wikipedia:

The pronunciation across the United Kingdom is varied. Some sections of the population (nearly two thirds of the British population and 99% of the Scottish population, according to one academic study[1]) pronounce it as /skɒn/ (to rhyme with con and John, the U English Pronunciation), and the rest pronounce it /skəʊn/ (to rhyme with cone and Joan, the Non-U English pronunciation)

U and non-U English usage, with U standing for upper class, and non-U representing the aspiring middle classes, were part of the terminology of popular discourse of social dialects (sociolects) in 1950s Britain and the northeast United States. The debate did not concern itself with the speech of the working classes, which in many instances used the same words as the upper class.

My Grandma, who is working class and from West Yorks, says /skɒn/, as do I. My mum uses either interchangeably but always subsequently looks embarrassed, as though she's used the wrong pronunciation.

On for me.

Embarrassing anecdote coming up...when I first moved to Sheffield I was working in a (very busy, very noisy) pub and was totally baffled by the bloke asking me for a cork.

I couldn't understand why on earth he'd want a cork and was brandishing a wine bottle with a quizzical look when he totally lost his rag and yelled 'A CORK! As in a diet CORK!!'.

Never have I felt such a fool.

Ha ha thats amazing :D

I have always pronounced it 'own' but it doesn't matter to me if some people pronounce it 'on' I have used 'on' to rhyme with gone when it suited me lol

Embarrassing anecdote coming up...when I first moved to Sheffield I was working in a (very busy, very noisy) pub and was totally baffled by the bloke asking me for a cork.

I couldn't understand why on earth he'd want a cork and was brandishing a wine bottle with a quizzical look when he totally lost his rag and yelled 'A CORK! As in a diet CORK!!'.

Never have I felt such a fool.
:hihi::hihi: A bit like the Four Candles isn't it:hihi:

What's the fasted bun in the world?

Don't know?

Give up?




... ssssssscccccc gone ...

Ok, you have to be 3 to find it amusing.

What's the fasted bun in the world?

Don't know?

Give up?




... ssssssscccccc gone ...

Ok, you have to be 3 to find it amusing.

Scon in 60 seconds

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wikipaedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scone_(bread)

Up north it rhymes with "on" if you're talking about food and "goon" if you're talking about a place. Only tourists rhyme it with "own".

Well, technically - technically - it's a scottish product so should rhyme with 'on'.

its scone for me but OH says its a scon...:)

Quite clearly it's scone (rhyming with own) and anyone who pronounces it 'scon' is wrong :D.
Did no-one else learn about the magic 'e' in pronunciation when they were at school?

It's scone.. not scon :loopy:

Quite clearly it's scone (rhyming with own) and anyone who pronounces it 'scon' is wrong :D.
Did no-one else learn about the magic 'e' in pronunciation when they were at school?

What's that then? :suspect: :hihi: I was always told to keep away from e :D

What's that then? :suspect: :hihi: I was always told to keep away from e :D

Me too, unless I'm watching a pon film.

D'oh!

People have been bitching about this one for donkey's years... :lol:

It's a SCONE for christ sake! :lol:

Only posh people and Southerners call it SCON.

Here's a joke... What did the man say to the Coyote when he saw the Road Runner speeding past? "S'gone" :lol:

Is that true? As i person who spent years down south as a child, i call them Scones (sounds so much nicer!):hihi:

Quite clearly it's scone (rhyming with own) and anyone who pronounces it 'scon' is wrong :D.
Did no-one else learn about the magic 'e' in pronunciation when they were at school?

Magic magic 'e'! I loved that programme. That and Geordie Racer.

What's that then? :suspect: :hihi: I was always told to keep away from e :D

:D If there's an e on the end of the word it changes the 'o' sound to an 'oh'. A little difficult to explain with text!!! Of course, it doesn't work with all words (typical of the language, I suppose), but Rich is right - only posh people call it scon :)

I've often wondered how the Queen pronounces it, that would settle the argument!

but Rich is right - only posh people call it scon

I thought it was the other way, posh people would say scone...

:D If there's an e on the end of the word it changes the 'o' sound to an 'oh'. A little difficult to explain with text!!! Of course, it doesn't work with all words (typical of the language, I suppose), but Rich is right - only posh people call it scon :)

I've often wondered how the Queen pronounces it, that would settle the argument!


Maybe we should send a letter to the palace asking her to settle this argument? :) Her maj's word will be final :hihi:

I was never sure which was proper, so I usually do a qualifier in mid-sentence:

"I'd like a bagel and a blueberry scone -- or skahn, however it's pronounced -- to go, please.":roll:

Everyone knows it's scon - as in 'on' :D

StarSparkle

Maybe we should send a letter to the palace asking her to settle this argument? :) Her maj's word will be final :hihi:

Absolutely! Though if it turns out (oh horror of horrors) that she says scone rather than scon my life will be turned upside down :D

Absolutely! Though if it turns out (oh horror of horrors) that she says scone rather than scon my life will be turned upside down :D

I reckon she pronounces it SCONE rather than the other. Anyone saying any other way will be marched to the tower :D

D'oh!

People have been bitching about this one for donkey's years... :lol:

It's a SCONE for christ sake! :lol:

Only posh people and Southerners call it SCON.

Here's a joke... What did the man say to the Coyote when he saw the Road Runner speeding past? "S'gone" :lol:

Nope. Up north we say scon.

Quite clearly it's scone (rhyming with own) and anyone who pronounces it 'scon' is wrong :D.
Did no-one else learn about the magic 'e' in pronunciation when they were at school?

Yes, but its gon'e'. :roll: And thats exactly what happens with scon'e'. ;) So it's 'scon' for me, like everyone else from Scotland. I think scone (as in tone) is the Anglicised version of the word, which is of Scots origin.

'Scone' comes from the word 'sgonn', a Gaelic word for large 'mouthful'. Scones originated in Scotland and traditionally became an essential part of high tea, popularised by Victorian ladies. http://www.britishbakeries.co.uk/ourbreadbutter/brand/motherspride/index_englandwales.html

Yes, but its gon'e'. :roll: And thats exactly what happens with scon'e'. ;) So it's 'scon' for me, like everyone else from Scotland. I think scone (as in tone) is the Anglicised version of the word, which is of Scots origin.

'Scone' comes from the word 'sgonn', a Gaelic word for large 'mouthful'. Scones originated in Scotland and traditionally became an essential part of high tea, popularised by Victorian ladies. http://www.britishbakeries.co.uk/ourbreadbutter/brand/motherspride/index_englandwales.html

Having been brocht up on quite a rough Scottish housing estate, I can vouch for the word of Macbeth! Indeed, only poofs and Sassanachs would venture to call them scowns ;)

Having been brocht up on quite a rough Scottish housing estate, I can vouch for the word of Macbeth! Indeed, only poofs and Sassanachs would venture to call them scowns ;)

Quite right! :thumbsup: :D

StarSparkle

Everyone knows it's scon - as in 'on' :D

StarSparkle

Bludyel! Here's a first! I agree. :)

Yes, but its gon'e'. :roll: And thats exactly what happens with scon'e'. ;) So it's 'scon' for me, like everyone else from Scotland. I think scone (as in tone) is the Anglicised version of the word, which is of Scots origin.



I know, that's why I said it doesn't work for every word :)
'Scon' still sounds posh to me, I'm afraid.

I have this with my mom.She is from Middlesbrough and says scon I SAY SCONE!!Breadcakes she says breadbuns, buns she says cakes,AND SHE HATES RELISH..

it's scone