View Full Version : Will The Owls Ever Recover?


billycotton
26-02-2004, 20:40
Hi, as a Sheffield United suporter I have to admit to a feeling of superioty over any owls suporter at the present time.
D o people agree with me that the owls are a spent force nowadays who will never regain their status as a major football club.

Rich
26-02-2004, 21:27
You aught to have put a fourth option in your poll "don't care"... I stopped caring about football years ago, probably when I stopped being, circa April 1987.

bellis
26-02-2004, 21:30
one day we will return hopfully ken bates will take over and even if that means going into admin then so be it:thumbsup:

mojoworking
27-02-2004, 03:14
Originally posted by billycotton
Hi, as a Sheffield United suporter I have to admit to a feeling of superioty over any owls suporter at the present time.
D o people agree with me that the owls are a spent force nowadays who will never regain their status as a major football club.

Wednesday may be crap at football, but at least we Owls fans can spell.

"superioty" indeed! What the hell is that? Are you inventing your own words at Bramall Lane these days?

Tony
27-02-2004, 06:37
Of course they will - they always do. To sum up the difference between Wednesday and Utd...

Wednesday are a great club that are occasionally rubbish.
United are a rubbish club that are occasionally great.

Thats how it's always been, and always will be.

rigsby
27-02-2004, 08:14
The difference being Tony, we at beautiful downtown Bramall Lane have always watched crap (32 years myself) so we have low
expectations and yes any good times are a bonus. However the Numptys at s6 still think they are Man Utd and deserve better due to the fan base, they havent got a single realist among the 22,000 regulars. For god sake their dreams for this season were shattered this week when they were knocked out of the LDV vans trophy and no one at s6 think that this is a joke. I hope the lot falls down, i hate them, but oh for an s6 numpty to get real one day and just say we are wednesday and we are garbage.

Rich
27-02-2004, 11:08
They were knocked out by BLACKPOOL! BLACKPOOL?! WTF?! They're from chuffin' Lancashire for a start, therefore they're our bitter rivals.... War of the Roses anyone?

Sunny_Sheff
27-02-2004, 11:55
Wednesday will recover, United will always just be average at best cus theyre not that big a club and have only got a glory seeking fan base. Wednesday are still gettin higher attendances in the bottom half of div 2 than united r in the top 6 of div 1.

When the finances get sorted, it'l b ok.

As for united, if they dont go up this yr its bye bye to Tongue and jagielka, look where Brown is now.

fnkysknky
27-02-2004, 12:50
Originally posted by mojoworking
Wednesday may be crap at football, but at least we Owls fans can spell.

"superioty" indeed! What the hell is that? Are you inventing your own words at Bramall Lane these days?

Talk about sour grapes......

fnkysknky
27-02-2004, 12:51
Originally posted by Tony
Of course they will - they always do. To sum up the difference between Wednesday and Utd...

Wednesday are a great club that are occasionally rubbish.
United are a rubbish club that are occasionally great.

Thats how it's always been, and always will be.

Yeah right...... check the Blades v Owls head to heads over the years - doesn't exactly ring true for you does it.

Sunny_Sheff
27-02-2004, 12:59
I think he means in general not just head to head one off matches. Do u know what the exact head to head figures are tho?

fnkysknky
27-02-2004, 13:38
I can't find them at the moment, just been looking. I remember them being in a special centenery program though in 1989 and United were just ahead - by a few games I think - it was close anyway.

As for us not being a big team I'd argue that we are to be honest, both Sheffield teams have always been seen as reasonably big clubs and both have decent honours lists

Blades Club Honours
Division One Champions: 1897-98
Division One Runners-up: 1896-97, 1899-1900
Division Two Champions: 1952-53
Division Two Runners-up: 1892-93, 1938-39, 1960-61, 1970-71, 1989-90
Division Four Champions: 1981-82
FA Cup Winners: 1899, 1902, 1915, 1925
FA Cup Runners-up: 1901, 1936

Owls Club Honours
Division One Champions: 1902-03, 1903-04, 1928-29, 1929-30
Division Two Champions: 1899-1900, 1925-26, 1951-52, 1955-56, 1958-59
FA Cup Winners: 1896, 1907, 1935
FA Cup Runners-up: 1890, 1966, 1993
Football League Cup Winners: 1991
Football League Cup Runners-up: 1993

Sunny_Sheff
27-02-2004, 14:42
Yeh not done bad i suppose but if u look at the last 10 years neither of us have won owt? We were runners up twice in 93 but thats it.

Tony
27-02-2004, 15:06
Yea.. but Wednesday always have a nicer kit :P

fnkysknky
27-02-2004, 15:13
Originally posted by Tony
Yea.. but Wednesday always have a nicer kit :P

That's debatable :D

Lickszz
27-02-2004, 16:20
I think it will be at least 10-15 years before Wednesday will be ready progress.

matsalleh
29-02-2004, 00:32
Your stats prove neither teams are big clubs.70years ago,runners up,low division success,dog`s breakfast cups, don`t mean squat nowadays. Interesting to see wendys have never been 1st division runners up.
Cheers

Sunny_Sheff
29-02-2004, 11:18
Y is that interesting to c?

Sam Miguel
29-02-2004, 21:57
The overall success of a football club, has to be the power of the supporter.

As a lifelong Wednesday supporter - dormant these days - I feel that a club such as The Great Wednesday who can pull in 20 odd thousand fans week in week out with such a dire team, just have to come good again.

Mark my words.

Sunny_Sheff
02-03-2004, 16:30
Originally posted by Sam Miguel
The overall success of a football club, has to be the power of the supporter.

As a lifelong Wednesday supporter - dormant these days - I feel that a club such as The Great Wednesday who can pull in 20 odd thousand fans week in week out with such a dire team, just have to come good again.

Mark my words.

Man City

Nuff said.

spook
07-03-2004, 09:01
yeah but they're back in the premiership!

It saddens me to see wednesday as they are now. Not sure about Bates either, people tend to forget Chelsea were in big financial trouble before he sold them.

I think the rot set in with Pleat and Dave Richards, although have to confess to being one of the ones shouting 'Francis Out' after Forest put 7 past us at home.:mad:

sexyjags
22-03-2004, 09:09
Wednesday recover you havin' a laugh

wibbles
22-03-2004, 13:31
I don't support either but have watched with interest where the clubs have gone over the years and despite the positions in the leagues at the moment Sheff Weds have always and still will be regarded as the 'bigger' team in Sheffield...and thats the opinions from fans of different clubs....bigger ground, bigger fan base, more illustrious history than Sheff Utd, better players who played in world cups etc etc....i always get the impression from varying posts on the forum regarding Sheff U v Sheff Weds that blades fans seem to always want to prove they are bigger and snipe at Wednesday whereas Sheff Weds fans tend to concentrate more on bigging up their own club instead of going on about rivals......just my humble opinion

wibbles
22-03-2004, 13:34
Originally posted by spook
yeah but they're back in the premiership!

It saddens me to see wednesday as they are now. Not sure about Bates either, people tend to forget Chelsea were in big financial trouble before he sold them.

I think the rot set in with Pleat and Dave Richards, although have to confess to being one of the ones shouting 'Francis Out' after Forest put 7 past us at home.:mad:

Actually you are wrong about Chelsea spook...like or dislike Bates he bought Chelsea for £1 and turned that club around to what it is now and cleared off a hell of a lot of debt and invested a hell of a lot of money....Chelsea village to name one Bates success...they were in danger of going undr before Bates took over

stella fan
23-03-2004, 17:33
Is it time for old Chrissy boy to go?

He's signed nearly all the players now and i cant see one who's any good Olsen's garbage, barry-murphy, tidman i could go on, pack thi bags turner an tek west wi thi.

scarlet
23-03-2004, 20:21
no sheffield club will ever be a ''big club'' again...the gulf between the top 4 and the rest is getting too much......

leeds are a prime example of this....

wednesdays problems started when they also tried...

even my beloved Blades nearly commited financial suicide under mr.howard kendal...paying over inflated wages in a hope to get to the promised land...yes we came close but the financial hangover took years to get over......

the only way the blades or pigs will ever be big will be if some rich russian moves in.....or his equivelant............

LIVING IN A WARNOCK WONDERLAND......

sexyjags
31-03-2004, 11:17
ive not lived there all my life, but even if i had lived there i still wouldnt support wednesday. Where bouts in hillsborough do u live?

AndrewC
31-03-2004, 13:06
lol, who cares, I'm a Norwich fan. I know we're never gonna win a top trophy. The most sucess i can hope for is being a charlton - pushing for europe when we have a good season. The top 3 plus newcastle, Liverpool maybe a couple of others will always be there. for the rest of us we can only live on memories and dreams :)

Until we win the premiership next year that is!! :P

btw, when were each last in the top division?

Killian
31-03-2004, 16:06
Originally posted by Tony
Yea.. but Wednesday always have a nicer kit :P

well said, Tony. after all, United have only copied my little home town teams kit - Exter City.

Lestat
15-04-2004, 23:39
I cant believe all these Bramall Lane piggies actually thinking they watch football every week! ha ha ha!!

Utd have always been 2nd, always will be, it doesn't matter if The Owls are below you at the moment, we know and so does everyone else in Britain that Wednesday are the bigger & better club . . so go put your shirts on, run around and oink till you drop! enjoy it while it lasts - it wont be for long.

fnkysknky
17-04-2004, 09:15
Originally posted by Lestat
I cant believe all these Bramall Lane piggies actually thinking they watch football every week! ha ha ha!!

Utd have always been 2nd, always will be, it doesn't matter if The Owls are below you at the moment, we know and so does everyone else in Britain that Wednesday are the bigger & better club . . so go put your shirts on, run around and oink till you drop! enjoy it while it lasts - it wont be for long.

Just read that post through again and look how bitter it makes you sound, Wednesday fans - always living in the past. Why don't you just admit that currently United are the better side - you were top for a fair few years and now the tables are turned - get over it.

Tony
17-04-2004, 09:18
Can we quote you on that in 5 years? ;)

fnkysknky
17-04-2004, 09:23
Of course you can - if Wednesday recover any time soon and United dip and fortunes swap again then I'm not so blinkered - I'd admit they were currently the better team. At the moment though that isn't the case and we're just enjoying while we've got it - however long it lasts :)

Sidla
17-04-2004, 14:58
To be honest I praise you all for not jumping on a glory bandwagon. It's so easy for people to be a Man U 'supporter' because of a rather tenuous Manc connection, and if Arsenal stay the dominant force of English football then I imagine loads of Arsenal 'fans' will come out of the woodwork.

As a Leicester fan I've known relatively little glory apart from a couple of League Cups, and I doubt Leicester will ever be considered a decent team. However, if it happens, at least I can say I was there from the start. Keep the faith.

JonnyBoy
27-04-2004, 06:44
The Owls will make a comeback. Might take a while, but it'll happen. All we need is, well, some decent players!!

Mr2Robs
27-04-2004, 21:41
I have to be honest, hope they never pull themselves together. Turner cracks me up what a numpty.

Paul at S17
30-04-2004, 04:13
Originally posted by Rich
They were knocked out by BLACKPOOL! BLACKPOOL?! WTF?! They're from chuffin' Lancashire for a start, therefore they're our bitter rivals.... War of the Roses anyone?

BLACKPOOL SUPPORTER HERE RICH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Im trying not to p*ss my self at Wednesday's demise but Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Swfc 0 Blackpool 1 Div 2
Blackpool 1 Swfc 0 LDV
Swfc 0 Blackpool 2 LDV ( Blackpool LDV winners £300000 better off )
Blackpool 4 Swfc 1 Div 2


21000 every home game HA!

I rather us get our 6000 ever home game at least it

BLACKPOOL P4 W4

mimicraze
30-04-2004, 09:27
Sheffield United suporter last time I checked it was supporter?? looks like neither of you can spell! lmao

sophie
30-04-2004, 14:11
Being a deicated sufc supporter although i am enjoying this feeling of superioty over the owls. I think a club with such a huge fan base will inevitably claw back up to the top even if it does take a while.

Squiggs
03-05-2004, 07:47
they might do.

But enjoy singing about crowd size next season even though you're getting thrashed at KC Stadium and Belle Vue :lol:

richy32
03-05-2004, 19:46
[i] As for united, if they dont go up this yr its bye bye to Tongue and jagielka, look where Brown is now. [/B]

Who cares about tongue goin we shud av solt im when the scousers offered 5m. now hes a big pile of steaming sh*t.

All you wendys ever go on about is "oooooohhhh we get 24,000 most weeks and we're in div2 and you get 19,000 and your in div 1. crowds smouds its not the quantity its the quality!!!

spook
04-05-2004, 15:27
Just goes to show there are 19,000 villages missing their local 'quality personality' eh?

spook
04-05-2004, 15:29
Originally posted by Paul at S17
BLACKPOOL SUPPORTER HERE RICH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Im trying not to p*ss my self at Wednesday's demise but Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Swfc 0 Blackpool 1 Div 2
Blackpool 1 Swfc 0 LDV
Swfc 0 Blackpool 2 LDV ( Blackpool LDV winners £300000 better off )
Blackpool 4 Swfc 1 Div 2


21000 every home game HA!

I rather us get our 6000 ever home game at least it

BLACKPOOL P4 W4

obviously don't teach pronunciation nor diction though in Blackpool. Numpty.

gornaldo
04-05-2004, 16:45
We'll turn it round, only under Bates though.

Craig7777
21-07-2006, 07:40
Probably not:(

Jazzybmzoo
21-07-2006, 08:33
I don't support either but have watched with interest where the clubs have gone over the years and despite the positions in the leagues at the moment Sheff Weds have always and still will be regarded as the 'bigger' team in Sheffield...and thats the opinions from fans of different clubs....bigger ground, bigger fan base, more illustrious history than Sheff Utd, better players who played in world cups etc etc....i always get the impression from varying posts on the forum regarding Sheff U v Sheff Weds that blades fans seem to always want to prove they are bigger and snipe at Wednesday whereas Sheff Weds fans tend to concentrate more on bigging up their own club instead of going on about rivals......just my humble opinion

Spot on mate. Objective and balanced opinion.

Jazzybmzoo
21-07-2006, 08:53
BLACKPOOL SUPPORTER HERE RICH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Im trying not to p*ss my self at Wednesday's demise but Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Swfc 0 Blackpool 1 Div 2
Blackpool 1 Swfc 0 LDV
Swfc 0 Blackpool 2 LDV ( Blackpool LDV winners £300000 better off )
Blackpool 4 Swfc 1 Div 2


21000 every home game HA!

I rather us get our 6000 ever home game at least it

BLACKPOOL P4 W4


Hoo, hoo! Quality mate, enjoy the vauxhall conference or whichever league you've been in for the past 50 years. 'Bring back Stanley Matthews!', I hear you cry. What a joke!

Up the Owls.

Craig7777
21-07-2006, 08:56
I love digging up old threads:thumbsup:

NEKRO138
21-07-2006, 09:11
Hi, as a Sheffield United suporter I have to admit to a feeling of superioty over any owls suporter at the present time.
D o people agree with me that the owls are a spent force nowadays who will never regain their status as a major football club.

I'm a Wednesdayite. I'm afraid you are not superior to me in any way.

Jazzybmzoo
21-07-2006, 09:15
Wednesday will be back and I feel everyone on here knows that, particluarly the sweaty Blade's who will be sweating about this. 'Oh it's so good now but what will the Wed fans say when we get battered the first 3 games? It's cool, we'll get all hoity and just say we'd rather be getting battered in the PREMIERSHIP!' Coolio.

As much as the Blades try and paper over it, we are and always will be the BIGGER/BETTER SUPPORTED club - insert attendance argument etc. I ADMIT the Blades have PLAYED BETTER the past few seasons but they have hardly pulled up any trees before last season. Wed are very much in a transitional stage at the moment after the ignomony of numerous fu*k ups, Pleat, Turner et al. In KPS we have a man capable of getting Wed back to their best but it will take time, but not 12 years i'm guessing. A club with as many fans as SWFC will not stay down for long, we have too much resource.

I predict that Warnock will not be so popular with the Blades fans by Xmas. I mean the tw*t is set to miss the first 3 games of Blade's most important ever season and their top siging thus far is...Claude 'who' Davis. If I was a Blade [spits to avert evil] I would be very concerned about relying on their current squad which is entirely unproven at the top level, oh accept for Akinbiyi. Hoot!

We love you Wednesday, we do!

Stuff
21-07-2006, 09:34
Wednesday will be back and I feel everyone on here knows that, particluarly the sweaty Blade's who will be sweating about this. 'Oh it's so good now but what will the Wed fans say when we get battered the first 3 games? It's cool, we'll get all hoity and just say we'd rather be getting battered in the PREMIERSHIP!' Coolio.

As much as the Blades try and paper over it, we are and always will be the BIGGER/BETTER SUPPORTED club - insert attendance argument etc. I ADMIT the Blades have PLAYED BETTER the past few seasons but they have hardly pulled up any trees before last season. Wed are very much in a transitional stage at the moment after the ignomony of numerous fu*k ups, Pleat, Turner et al. In KPS we have a man capable of getting Wed back to their best but it will take time, but not 12 years i'm guessing. A club with as many fans as SWFC will not stay down for long, we have too much resource.

I predict that Warnock will not be so popular with the Blades fans by Xmas. I mean the tw*t is set to miss the first 3 games of Blade's most important ever season and their top siging thus far is...Claude 'who' Davis. If I was a Blade [spits to avert evil] I would be very concerned about relying on their current squad which is entirely unproven at the top level, oh accept for Akinbiyi. Hoot!

We love you Wednesday, we do!

I'm jus looking forward to playing Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal.

Enjoy Southend and Colchester, won't you?

Jazzybmzoo
21-07-2006, 10:04
I'm jus looking forward to playing Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal.

Enjoy Southend and Colchester, won't you?

That's exactly what i'm talking about. Blade's hoityness. It's wonderful to see mate. Keep up the good work.

Stuff
21-07-2006, 10:15
That's exactly what i'm talking about. Blade's hoityness. It's wonderful to see mate. Keep up the good work.

Cos Wendy fans never gloated when they were better than us? My mistake.

Sod the history, ground sizes, attendances.

The simple fact is we're in the Premiership and you aren't.

Robbie Loving
21-07-2006, 10:25
Wednesday will be back and I feel everyone on here knows that,

you want to believe that, i for one dont think it will happen in the next decade at least. although id like us both to be in the premiership

As much as the Blades try and paper over it, we are and always will be the BIGGER/BETTER SUPPORTED club - insert attendance argument etc.

its true, united have never ever had a higher average attendance than wednesday over the course of a season, but do you think that will be the case the coming season?

define a bigger club? a club who has a bigger turnover at present maybe? (united)........ or someone who relies on looking at back to say 13 years ago when they was on a "european tour" playing the likes of the mighty spora luxembourg and kauserslatain (spelling)

I ADMIT the Blades have PLAYED BETTER the past few seasons but they have hardly pulled up any trees before last season.

what about the 2002/2003 season? you know the one where we finished third, play off final, fa cup semis, mickey mouse cup semis too.

Wed are very much in a transitional stage at the moment after the ignomony of numerous fu*k ups, Pleat, Turner et al. In KPS we have a man capable of getting Wed back to their best but it will take time, but not 12 years i'm guessing.

well 5 seasons have already passed, he only has 7 seasons remaining to do something. PS is tactically inept, and for all the injuries weds seem to get id be questioning his training methods

A club with as many fans as SWFC will not stay down for long, we have too much resource.

ahhhhh but if roumours are to be believed, you have to sell 9,000 season tickets just to pay off the INTEREST, anything more then goes on capital/running of club/wages. but to be honest, when was the last time any wednesday debt decreased?

I predict that Warnock will not be so popular with the Blades fans by Xmas.

do you think he is very popular now?

I mean the tw*t is set to miss the first 3 games of Blade's most important ever season

first 2 games i believe

their top siging thus far is...Claude 'who' Davis.

if you knew anything about football, you would know who davis is, i suspect you rightly know who he is and just trying to wind a few blades u. it may probably work too

If I was a Blade [spits to avert evil] I would be very concerned about relying on their current squad which is entirely unproven at the top level, oh accept for Akinbiyi. Hoot!

ok...... am i assuming, shipperley, morgan, quinn, gillespie, unsworth, horsefield, leigterwood, and sommeil have never played in the premiership?

tinsel_ninja
21-07-2006, 13:26
"Ever" is a very long time.

scottblade
21-07-2006, 14:55
I cant believe all these Bramall Lane piggies actually thinking they watch football every week! ha ha ha!!

Utd have always been 2nd, always will be, it doesn't matter if The Owls are below you at the moment, we know and so does everyone else in Britain that Wednesday are the bigger & better club . . so go put your shirts on, run around and oink till you drop! enjoy it while it lasts - it wont be for long.
lets just wait and see. wednesday thought they were the best team in the world just because they won the playoffs last year and now they think they are the best team in the world because they survived the championship and they didnt even get above 16th all season.

Ousetunes
21-07-2006, 15:09
I'm not one for getting into a slanging match between the two main Sheffield football sides but I am prepared to say 'I'll agree to differ.'

It's all very well to predict that the Blades will only have one season in the top flight; most Blades fans think that. But even if that were to be the case, the question is: would they still be the more financially stable club in the city? Chances are, yes, they would. The board are being very wise in their recruitment and know that if the team comes back down at the end of the seaon then they won't come down 'bringing cradle and all'. They might become a yo-yo team until finally they do become a settled Premier League side.

Every Blades fan I've spoken to has been very realistic about the Blades' chances of staying in the top flight. For now they're looking forward to enjoying at least one season playing at that level. Yes, maybe Warnock won't last till Christmas - that's the fickle nature of the game.

But where does one really expect Wednesday to be? Their fans (generally speaking) have a higher expectation of what to expect from their club (and rightly so, I'm not knocking that). However, it appears to me at least that some fans feel the club has this divine right to be in any position - so long as it's above the Blades.

Too right, that you can claim to be the bigger, better supported club. It's the turning circle created by the huge debts that will see Wednesday outside the Premier League for a long time yet. United have learned from this and that's why I predict that if it all goes belly-up the board will still be in a better position to remedy the situation than Wednesday's board will be.

For now United are the top team in Yorkshire. It won't always be the case and Blades fans know this more than any other supporters. Wednesday will one day be in the same position as we are, but certainly not this season.

Boring as it is, it's a case of 'what goes around comes around'. As a Blade, boy am I looking forward to this season? Knowing it might be a chance in a lifetime journey, I'd be mad not to enjoy it!

Craig7777
21-07-2006, 15:11
Haha i'm so glad i got this thread back:thumbsup:

madowl
21-07-2006, 15:22
Of course they will - they always do. To sum up the difference between Wednesday and Utd...
Wednesday are a great club that are occasionally rubbish.
United are a rubbish club that are occasionally great.
Thats how it's always been, and always will be.

You took the words right out of my mouth...:hihi:
Wednesday will be Back!!:thumbsup:

As for " Paul at S17 "
BLACKPOOL SUPPORTER HERE RICH...:gag:
Id stick to selling Blackpool rock to the day trippers...:hihi:

& im sorry billycotton, but your NOT superior to anyone!
Is this what a superior blade looks like.... me thinks....Yes..
http://www.teenseen.net/family/teens/images/pig-grin2.jpg
If it came down to Seasons... id say between...6-10 to get Wednesday Back in the Prem... but at the moment its the turn of the trotters to have a little lime light and be in the prem, i hope they do well, why cant this city of ours have 2 prem clubs??? this city is big enough?? look at the season tickets trotters have sold...

I will say on thing about being a Big club ?? when we played the clubs like Rushden & Diamonds... you Trotters may have laughed at us... but i was there home and away mate... met some great footie fans... lovely little ground... Its still part of our Football league...THE BEST LEAGUE IN THE WORLD!

madowl
21-07-2006, 15:27
I cant believe all these Bramall Lane piggies actually thinking they watch football every week! ha ha ha!!

Utd have always been 2nd, always will be, it doesn't matter if The Owls are below you at the moment, we know and so does everyone else in Britain that Wednesday are the bigger & better club . . so go put your shirts on, run around and oink till you drop! enjoy it while it lasts - it wont be for long.
Should have known you would put your Vote in for the Blades...NOT! :hihi:
how ya doin mate?

mack69
21-07-2006, 16:48
I can't find them at the moment, just been looking. I remember them being in a special centenery program though in 1989 and United were just ahead - by a few games I think - it was close anyway.

As for us not being a big team I'd argue that we are to be honest, both Sheffield teams have always been seen as reasonably big clubs and both have decent honours lists

Blades Club Honours
Division One Champions: 1897-98
Division One Runners-up: 1896-97, 1899-1900
Division Two Champions: 1952-53
Division Two Runners-up: 1892-93, 1938-39, 1960-61, 1970-71, 1989-90
Division Four Champions: 1981-82
FA Cup Winners: 1899, 1902, 1915, 1925
FA Cup Runners-up: 1901, 1936

Owls Club Honours
Division One Champions: 1902-03, 1903-04, 1928-29, 1929-30
Division Two Champions: 1899-1900, 1925-26, 1951-52, 1955-56, 1958-59
FA Cup Winners: 1896, 1907, 1935
FA Cup Runners-up: 1890, 1966, 1993
Football League Cup Winners: 1991
Football League Cup Runners-up: 1993
Division 4 Champions :D got to laff only time the blades have won anything in colour Wednesday have not won that tho wonder why?? erm because we have never been that low and never will be.1 DON GIVENS U.T.O F.T.B you can have your head to head wins but we won the one that mattered most at wembley in 93 have you ever won there or cardiff? enjoy your little bit off sucesss now it wont last long your team will let you down again when it matters most you know it:hihi:

Robbie Loving
22-07-2006, 09:53
have you ever won there or cardiff?

yeah we have won at wembley (maybe not in last 60 years though) before and at cardiff (ninian park :D)

mack69
22-07-2006, 10:17
yeah we have won at wembley (maybe not in last 60 years though) before and at cardiff (ninian park :D)
morning robbie :thumbsup: 60 Years are you sure? oh yeh ninian park :cool: i stand corrected:hihi:

Robbie Loving
22-07-2006, 10:25
morning robbie :thumbsup: 60 Years are you sure? oh yeh ninian park :cool: i stand corrected:hihi:

Morning Macky :D

i said NOT in the last 60 years. we won i believe 1925 against Cardiff

mr_blue_owl
22-07-2006, 12:22
Remeber everyone was saying the same thing when Wednesday nearly got relegated to the old 4th division, of course no club really hope to be can be truly competitive in the Prem without a couple of hundred million quid to spend.
I was reading some interesting stuff about the histories of both clubs relating to class distinction recently.
The Owls for example were represented by an upper class gent with spats top hat and cigar whilst the Blunts had a bloke with a flat cap and a cigarette hung out of the corner of his mouth.
Of course we Wednesdayites always knew we were a class above :P

Robbie Loving
22-07-2006, 12:25
Remeber everyone was saying the same thing when Wednesday nearly got relegated to the old 4th division, of course no club really hope to be can be truly competitive in the Prem without a couple of hundred million quid to spend.
I was reading some interesting stuff about the histories of both clubs relating to class distinction recently.
The Owls for example were represented by an upper class gent with spats top hat and cigar whilst the Blunts had a bloke with a flat cap and a cigarette hung out of the corner of his mouth.
Of course we Wednesdayites always knew we were a class above :P

shame you dont take it to this day and age hey?

Grandad.Malky
22-07-2006, 12:37
Hi, as a Sheffield United suporter I have to admit to a feeling of superioty over any owls suporter at the present time.
D o people agree with me that the owls are a spent force nowadays who will never regain their status as a major football club.

I hope so .

:hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

mr_blue_owl
23-07-2006, 06:48
shame you dont take it to this day and age hey?

Oooh bitchy:) .........but unfortunately true.
At least El Sturrocko has made some decent signings this summer unlike Coiln who seems to be preparing for the return to the 2nd tier already:thumbsup:

Robbie Loving
23-07-2006, 09:47
Oooh bitchy:) .........but unfortunately true.
At least El Sturrocko has made some decent signings this summer unlike Coiln who seems to be preparing for the return to the 2nd tier already:thumbsup:

although im not happy with ALL of the signings made so far. they are however better than who wednesday have brought, but thats not to say the players wednesday have brought in are not any good.

i think the signings you little grunters have made so far are good, especially in getting lunt in, because your midfield lets you down a lot.

we havent stopped our signings yet, so im gonna cast judgement on the 31st of august

Little_Alex
23-07-2006, 10:45
Hi, as a Sheffield United suporter I have to admit to a feeling of superioty over any owls suporter at the present time.
D o people agree with me that the owls are a spent force nowadays who will never regain their status as a major football club.It's been a long time coming for you to acquire this feeling billyboy. What goes around comes around so crow while you can ... I did ;)

Little_Alex
23-07-2006, 10:50
Robbie you are by far my favourite piggy! Your kind words have been noted and I wish you and that club of yours all the best for next season ;)

nobby71
23-07-2006, 12:57
You took the words right out of my mouth...:hihi:
Wednesday will be Back!!:thumbsup:

As for " Paul at S17 "
BLACKPOOL SUPPORTER HERE RICH...:gag:
Id stick to selling Blackpool rock to the day trippers...:hihi:

& im sorry billycotton, but your NOT superior to anyone!
Is this what a superior blade looks like.... me thinks....Yes..
http://www.teenseen.net/family/teens/images/pig-grin2.jpg
If it came down to Seasons... id say between...6-10 to get Wednesday Back in the Prem... but at the moment its the turn of the trotters to have a little lime light and be in the prem, i hope they do well, why cant this city of ours have 2 prem clubs??? this city is big enough?? look at the season tickets trotters have sold...

I will say on thing about being a Big club ?? when we played the clubs like Rushden & Diamonds... you Trotters may have laughed at us... but i was there home and away mate... met some great footie fans... lovely little ground... Its still part of our Football league...THE BEST LEAGUE IN THE WORLD!

These wendy better look at why you are called the pigs;

founded by local butchers and pig farmers who closed their shops to play on a wedne*day!

There are some big hard numpty (f)owls on here; you make me laugh you really do!!!!!

Always red - UTB FTO - All that matters is the present; this time next week will be history - means nothing:cool:

AND WE ARE PREMIERSHIP!!!!!!!!

mack69
23-07-2006, 13:24
There are some big hard numpty (f)owls on here; you make me laugh you really do!!!!!

Always red - UTB FTO - All that matters is the present; this time next week will be history - means nothing

so history means nothing Q.if mum and dad nobby pigs did not have any history you would be what ?? A.a stain of somekind. you know you could be right even with there history nothing has changed:rolleyes:

mack69
23-07-2006, 13:58
hi robbie hows it going the new season is nearly here. have you got your new grimsby shirt and i thought our new yellow one was bad:thumbsup:

Robbie Loving
23-07-2006, 14:06
hi robbie hows it going the new season is nearly here. have you got your new grimsby shirt and i thought our new yellow one was bad:thumbsup:

im good ta, how about yourself?

im soooo not keen on the "juventus" (who am i kidding grimsby) shirt. but you know i will prob get it.

not sure if ive seen your yellow one, the only one that springs to mind is your old one with Chupa Chups on the front (il leave the mickey taking out :D)

Don't suppose i used to work with you did i?

mack69
23-07-2006, 14:17
Don't suppose i used to work with you did i?:)
what makes you say that robb??

medusa
23-07-2006, 21:00
Mod note: OK- we'll have no fighting or threats to meet outside in here thank you. Keep it civil please, or the thread will disappear along with all of the honest discussion.

scottf
24-07-2006, 11:52
Ok - what i can't get is this- all the wednesday fans keep on saying this statement- "with a fan base like ours it won't be long until were back"

Now- forgive me if im wrong but having a fan base will do virtually nothing to help you get anywhere in football!!!! You you have a 30million debt and no-money for transfers it doesn't matter if there is 1 person in the ground or 37000!!!! The only thing that matters is the people in charge of the board and the people in charge of the team!

Jazzybmzoo
24-07-2006, 15:14
Ok - what i can't get is this- all the wednesday fans keep on saying this statement- "with a fan base like ours it won't be long until were back"

Now- forgive me if im wrong but having a fan base will do virtually nothing to help you get anywhere in football!!!! You you have a 30million debt and no-money for transfers it doesn't matter if there is 1 person in the ground or 37000!!!! The only thing that matters is the people in charge of the board and the people in charge of the team!

True. But how many teams OUTSIDE of the Prem. regularly get 22,000+? The three that get relegated from the Prem? Ergo a club with a large following and thus bigger resources, greater reputation, more pulling power can attract bigger and better people (players, in charge of board, in charge of team etc). Very rarely do we see a club with a following as big as Wed not do well for a prolonged period because we are simply too big not to.

True we have fu*ked up majorly over the past ten years or so but the thread poises the question 'Will the Owls ever recover?' to which the answer is 'Yes', of course we will. It's just a question of time, it will be got right & soon. Currently Utd. are doing very well but due to recent history they haven't got a bigger reputation as Wed. and whether they get to emulate any success remains to be seen...plus, they're all scumbags. :)

chuffinel
24-07-2006, 16:24
True. But how many teams OUTSIDE of the Prem. regularly get 22,000+? The three that get relegated from the Prem? Ergo a club with a large following and thus bigger resources, greater reputation, more pulling power can attract bigger and better people (players, in charge of board, in charge of team etc). Very rarely do we see a club with a following as big as Wed not do well for a prolonged period because we are simply too big not to.

True we have fu*ked up majorly over the past ten years or so but the thread poises the question 'Will the Owls ever recover?' to which the answer is 'Yes', of course we will. It's just a question of time, it will be got right & soon. Currently Utd. are doing very well but due to recent history they haven't got a bigger reputation as Wed. and whether they get to emulate any success remains to be seen...plus, they're all scumbags. :)
That was a good thoughtful post until the very end.

Stuff
25-07-2006, 07:23
But how many teams OUTSIDE of the Prem. regularly get 22,000+?

From memory:

Birmingham
West Brom
Sunderland
L**ds
Leicester
Derby
Forest
Southampton
Coventry
Wolves
Norwich
Ipswich

Jazzybmzoo
25-07-2006, 07:33
From memory:

Birmingham
West Brom
Sunderland
L**ds
Leicester
Derby
Forest
Southampton
Coventry
Wolves
Norwich
Ipswich

Please! Of whom We got consistently higher attendances (with the slight exception of Norwich)!

Stuff
25-07-2006, 08:01
Please! Of whom We got consistently higher attendances (with the slight exception of Norwich)!

Well done. The question was who regularly gets more than 22k outside the Prem, I merely answered it.

Attendance aren't everything. You may be a bigger club than the like of Watford, Reading, Portsmouth, Fulham and Wigan. But that doesn't give you (or anybody) the right to be in the Premiership.

You may have a lot of fans, but your players are crap.

trophyman
25-07-2006, 08:15
our players are crap but they are playing against crap so it evens itself out.

back to the original question......the same was being asked of S*FC when they went down from the prem. they were in trouble financially and they all knew that one day things would look brighter and look were they are now. give us a few years of stability and we will be back. for christs sake lets keep FPS cos hes the right man for the job. its no good sacking managers willy nilly, cos you dont get the continuity.

i started watching SWFC in 1981 and in that time we have been the bigger and better team between 1981 - 1990 & 1992 - 2000.

its u*iteds turn for the time being but one day the tide will turn

Robbie Loving
25-07-2006, 11:56
back to the original question......the same was being asked of S*FC when they went down from the prem. they were in trouble financially and they all knew that one day things would look brighter and look were they are now.

the difference is, united has never had such a debt like wednesday do

mr_blue_owl
25-07-2006, 12:49
the difference is, united has never had such a debt like wednesday do

Tut TUt Robbie, do your homework

Dave Bassett resigned as manager in November 1995 to be replaced by Howard Kendall, who was at the helm for 18 months before being lured back to Everton for his third spell as manager at the end of the 1996-97 season, just a few weeks after Sheffield United blew the chance of a return to the Premiership by losing 1-0 to Crystal Palace in the Division One Play-Off Final.

Over the next two-and-a-half years, Sheffield United had three unsuccessful managers - Nigel Spackman, Steve Bruce and Adrian Heath - although they reached the FA Cup semi final again in 1998. In December 1999 the club turned to Neil Warnock in a bid to re-establish the club as promotion challengers. At this time the club was over £20m in debt and the priority was cutting costs, so Warnock's first three seasons in charge ended in mid-table finishes in Division One.

Robbie Loving
25-07-2006, 12:55
At this time the club was over £20m in debt

i dont believe that report for once second in my life, because our debt currently stands at roughly 10 million if reports are to be believed. and no way in that time have we managed to repay say roughly £2 million off the debt per season.

even if it was the case, wednesdays debts are said to be anything up to £35 million, so i suggest you go do your homework

mr_blue_owl
25-07-2006, 15:41
i dont believe that report for once second in my life, because our debt currently stands at roughly 10 million if reports are to be believed. and no way in that time have we managed to repay say roughly £2 million off the debt per season.

even if it was the case, wednesdays debts are said to be anything up to £35 million, so i suggest you go do your homework

I always do my homework Robbie old chap, how do you think I got the information you now choose to question (it was from Wikipaedia - fairly unbiased source I would say)
The same source doesn't mention Wednesday's debt as far as I can see, but most reports have it around 27 million.
And there is no need to get snotty I was merely pointing out that your statement was inacurrate.
In fact United have done remarkably well in controlling their finances.

Blue Owl 1 Robbie 0

Robbie Loving
25-07-2006, 17:01
I always do my homework Robbie old chap, how do you think I got the information you now choose to question (it was from Wikipaedia - fairly unbiased source I would say)
The same source doesn't mention Wednesday's debt as far as I can see, but most reports have it around 27 million.
And there is no need to get snotty I was merely pointing out that your statement was inacurrate.
In fact United have done remarkably well in controlling their finances.

Blue Owl 1 Robbie 0

as said, there is no way that united have managed to get rid of £2 million debt per season over the last 6 seasons. in fact if i recall correctly there has only been one season where we didnt make a loss in the previous 6 years.

if you can supply with me with info supporting your claims then by all means show it. and if your sources are reliable i will happily admit i was wrong. but today is the first time ive ever heard that we have had any debt in excess off £12 million.

Robbie Loving
25-07-2006, 17:18
just had a quick search.

http://www.sufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/PLCDetail/0,,10418~646229,00.html

states that our debt was 10.1 million in 2003, so in the space of 4 years (by your reckoning) we have managed to get rid of over £10 million debt (as we are OVER 20 million in debt) but turnover for 2005 was £13 million and at that point we made no profit. turnover in previous years was a lot less, also with no profit being made. so how do you reckon we got rid of the £10 million. source please?

tosh13
25-07-2006, 17:19
Will The Owls Ever Recover- Take £20m for a season & if you feel no better come back in 6 years time.

canadablade
25-07-2006, 18:57
Very rarely do we see a club with a following as big as Wed not do well for a prolonged period because we are simply too big not to.

True we have fu*ked up majorly over the past ten years or so but the thread poises the question 'Will the Owls ever recover?' to which the answer is 'Yes', of course we will. It's just a question of time, it will be got right & soon. Currently Utd. are doing very well but due to recent history they haven't got a bigger reputation as Wed. and whether they get to emulate any success remains to be seen.. :)

Whats a prolonged period of time Jazzy? That could be anywhere from 1 - 100 years .
You lot have been bobbins for the past 10 years as you say and honestly even though i am a Blade I cant see you doing anything for the next 10.
As for the big club big following argument thats just rubbish,wether a team has 40,000 every game or 4,000 it makes no difference because if that was the case Newcastle would win the Premiership every season, they have by far and away the best fans anywhere but, Its the product that the board puts on the field that wins trophies at the end of the day not how many fans you have.And a 2nd point to that, If crowds mattered then Norwich would have gone up as Champs and you would have gone up in our spot :o
I think with a couple of FA Cup semi Final , a Carling cup Semi and a couple of play-off final appearances as well as a promotion to the PREMIERSHIP gives us a way bigger reputation that you lot IMHO.
Case in point being that Before when you said you were from Sheffield, the next question was so you support wendy, now you get so you support United :love:
I guess being in the Premiership will do that for you.
To be honest All our little pink friends in S6 are hoping for is that we go down(Thats what all the threads seem to be about now ) and hope they have mid table mediocrity, that to them is a win over their bigger neighbours in S2 :D

And speaking of threads :hihi: :hihi: were did that swfc one go to

mr_blue_owl
25-07-2006, 19:36
as said, there is no way that united have managed to get rid of £2 million debt per season over the last 6 seasons. in fact if i recall correctly there has only been one season where we didnt make a loss in the previous 6 years.

if you can supply with me with info supporting your claims then by all means show it. and if your sources are reliable i will happily admit i was wrong. but today is the first time ive ever heard that we have had any debt in excess off £12 million.

They are not my claims Robbie, and I told you my source - it was in Wikipedia.
It doesn't matter to me whether your club are in debt or not
All I did was Google 'Sheffield United Debt' out of curiosity and up it popped

mr_blue_owl
25-07-2006, 19:48
...........Although having thought about it one figure is poosibly actual debt, i. e money owed to the bank and the lower figure takes into account the value of their assets

Robbie Loving
26-07-2006, 07:44
...........Although having thought about it one figure is poosibly actual debt, i. e money owed to the bank and the lower figure takes into account the value of their assets

it was "net" debt in 2003

I'm not trying to cause an arguement regards this, just stating your source (although wikipedia is usually good) is not a good one on this occasion.

i can honestly say i have never heard of debts for the blades being above £12 million

Robbie Loving
26-07-2006, 07:47
If crowds mattered then Norwich would have gone up as Champs and you would have gone up in our spot :o

final results actually showed weds having the largest average in the league (albeit by about 13) as one of the norwich attendances on sites was incorrect. making there average higher than it should have been

but its irrelevant, united are now the bigger club AS IT STANDS

jester6881
26-07-2006, 11:51
Is there any specific argument here?

As I see it, The blunts have gone up, good luck to them with their big day out.....whether or not it ends in tears we are sure to know more around Christmas time.

1 point I see is that we are talking about attendances.....I see the blunt fans have come out of hiding wearing their shirts and displaying their car stickers, air freshners and all that.......howewer there will always be more Wednesday fans.

We stay loyal to the cause, we do not wander when the tough times come.....we will recover because we have a defiant attitude. Now whether this happens in 3, 5 or even 10 years the great glory years will once again come to the blue and white side of Sheffield

Robbie Loving
26-07-2006, 11:52
we will see in a few years time simon when further things dont happen for weds

nobby71
26-07-2006, 17:28
Is there any specific argument here?

We stay loyal to the cause, we do not wander when the tough times come.....we will recover because we have a defiant attitude. Now whether this happens in 3, 5 or even 10 years the great glory years will once again come to the blue and white side of Sheffield

Dont believe the hype your average attendance in the 70's was around 12000, in fact in the 1977/78 season it was 10,643.

Where were you then? - as usual you believe your own spiel.

Blades - Yorkshires ONLY premiership team

mack69
26-07-2006, 18:13
Dont believe the hype your average attendance in the 70's was around 12000, in fact in the 1977/78 season it was 10,643.

Where were you then? - as usual you believe your own spiel.

wasnt it you nob that said history does not matter??? i see it matters when it suits you sir:love:

mack69
26-07-2006, 18:20
Always red - UTB FTO - All that matters is the present; this time next week will be history - means nothing
^^^^^^^^^^^^^thats what you wrote init nob?^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
:hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

nobby71
26-07-2006, 18:42
And i stick by it; history means nothing but you lose on both fronts!!! (puts to bed the previous posters myth about wendy always been loyal - check the stats!)

I will enjoy old trafford, stamford bridge etc etc - you enjoy colchester, oakwell.....

PREMIERSHIP AND HAVING A LAUGH
UTB FTO AND MACK THE KNIFE!

mack69
26-07-2006, 20:24
so you will be going away then nob? i will be lucky to get to layer road thats where colchester play by the way and oakwell because tickets will be hard to get because of the high demand from loyal owls

you should be ok at old trafford they give you at least 1,500 tickets



UTB FTO AND MACK THE KNIFE!<<< and as for that 1 day you want to meet and give me your mobile number then you wanna :love: is it U.M.T.K OR F.M.T.K??? CMON NOB GISSA :D STOP STRESSING OR YOU WILL HAVE A BAD HEART LIKE COLIN

nobby71
26-07-2006, 21:12
Yep ill meet; bring it on......name it

SatanInHeels
26-07-2006, 21:46
Of course they will - they always do. To sum up the difference between Wednesday and Utd...

Wednesday are a great club that are occasionally rubbish.
United are a rubbish club that are occasionally great.

Thats how it's always been, and always will be.
very very well said.. cant put it any better so just... agree with the above quote

nobby71
26-07-2006, 21:55
very very well said.. cant put it any better so just... agree with the above quote

Your a student - that says it all!

SatanInHeels
26-07-2006, 22:02
Your a student - that says it all!
until september.. im not. so whats that supposed to mean?

Robbie Loving
27-07-2006, 06:23
very very well said.. cant put it any better so just... agree with the above quote

we all know women dont know nothing about football, so stay out of it helen :hihi:

still love you he he :love:

JoeP
27-07-2006, 07:11
Mod. Note

If people can't argue issues without threats, they will be removed to cool down for a couple of days. Nobby71, Macktheknife - this means you. Anything more from either of you and I'll ban whoever's concerned.

Just chill.

Thank you

Ousetunes
27-07-2006, 08:02
Oh dear, it looks like the *wls might be in for another difficult season.

They were thrapped, drubbed, stuffed four goals to nil by the mighty Mansfield Town, a League 2 outfit.

Oh hold on. Sturrock has apologised to the fans by admitting his team were 'tired'.

That's okay then...,

Dot
27-07-2006, 08:12
Looks as though Mansfield are in for a good season then :hihi: :hihi:

I suppose the wendy players were jet lagged after their trip to USA, is that the reason Mr Sturrock???

mack69
27-07-2006, 08:57
Looks as though Mansfield are in for a good season then :hihi: :hihi:

I suppose the wendy players were jet lagged after their trip to USA, is that the reason Mr Sturrock???
mr sturrock he said YES :confused:

Leg-end
27-07-2006, 09:58
Hi, as a Sheffield United suporter I have to admit to a feeling of superioty over any owls suporter at the present time.
D o people agree with me that the owls are a spent force nowadays who will never regain their status as a major football club.

This is brilliant! What a small minded fool, but then again, he is a Unitedite!

Post in this thread this time next year and we'll maybe have something to discuss.

tosh13
27-07-2006, 10:36
I hope so mate,that will mean you are in the top flight with us.

mr_blue_owl
27-07-2006, 12:01
it was "net" debt in 2003

I'm not trying to cause an arguement regards this, just stating your source (although wikipedia is usually good) is not a good one on this occasion.

i can honestly say i have never heard of debts for the blades being above £12 million

Your word is good enough for me, anyway I have no wish to see United in deep debt (although I would of course like to see them below Wednesday in the league)
I was reading that Man U are 660 million quid in overall debt since the Glazier take over!

Robbie Loving
27-07-2006, 12:03
Your word is good enough for me, anyway I have no wish to see United in deep debt (although I would of course like to see them below Wednesday in the league)
I was reading that Man U are 660 million quid in overall debt since the Glazier take over!

yeah it was £590 million debt apparently, and then they did something which saved them £90 million in interest, but it increased the debt to £660 million.

but manure are such a good franchise that the debt they have is really uniomportant

boboskins
27-07-2006, 12:55
Looks as though Mansfield are in for a good season then :hihi: :hihi:

I suppose the wendy players were jet lagged after their trip to USA, is that the reason Mr Sturrock???

Oh well that's it, League 1 here we come because we lost a FRIENDLY to the Mighty Stags. I'll not bother turning up the rest of the season then coz it's a forgone conclusion!

Hey but then again if we beat Middleborough on Saturday then our season will be back on track because that must make us better than half the Premiership and most of Europe (UEFA Cup finalist you know) so we'll definately get promoted ;)

Still well done to the Blades for beating those giants of Scottish football Inverness Cali and Greenock Morton. Which gives me an excuse to post that classic headline 'Super Cali go ballistic, Celtic are atrocious', genius :hihi:

Robbie Loving
27-07-2006, 13:03
Oh well that's it, League 1 here we come because we lost a FRIENDLY to the Mighty Stags. I'll not bother turning up the rest of the season then coz it's a forgone conclusion!

Hey but then again if we beat Middleborough on Saturday then our season will be back on track because that must make us better than half the Premiership and most of Europe (UEFA Cup finalist you know) so we'll definately get promoted ;)

Still well done to the Blades for beating those giants of Scottish football Inverness Cali and Greenock Morton. Which gives me an excuse to post that classic headline 'Super Cali go ballistic, Celtic are atrocious', genius :hihi:

obviously bob, this one result does not show what wednesdays achievements this season will be.

but you lost 4-0 YES 4-0 to a distinctly poor side, and it was not like you was experimenting stuff, you had your first team out there in Adamson, Simek, Coughlan, Bougherra (Spurr 59), Bullen; Brunt, Lunt (McAllister 74), Folly, O'Brien (Whelan 59); MacLean, Burton (Graham 59). Subs: O'Donnell, McArdle, Boden.

anyways...... moving on to the united friendlies..... inverness finished fourth in the SPL last season (1 place behind rangers) so to beat them 3-0 was it? i think was quite good, considering they are 3 weeks ahead of us for pre season.

mr_blue_owl
27-07-2006, 14:05
Oh dear, it looks like the *wls might be in for another difficult season.

They were thrapped, drubbed, stuffed four goals to nil by the mighty Mansfield Town, a League 2 outfit.

Oh hold on. Sturrock has apologised to the fans by admitting his team were 'tired'.

That's okay then...,

I am so glad you find 0-4 defeats so funny

Imagine the laughs you will have next season watching the Blunts:)

Stuff
27-07-2006, 14:19
I am so glad you find 0-4 defeats so funny

Imagine the laughs you will have next season watching the Blunts:)

Slight difference between Mansfield and Man United though...

canadablade
27-07-2006, 14:28
Slight difference between Mansfield and Man United though...

Harsh but fair :hihi: :hihi:

mr_blue_owl
27-07-2006, 15:02
Slight difference between Mansfield and Man United though...

So you may think, but did you know that the Stags have just signed a brilliant young player from the Sunday League, devout Christian Ron Aldo, Irish Italian wing back Robert O'Carlos, future stars Damy 'n Duff and local hippy-turned-footballer the 'hairy henry
Thought not:thumbsup:

Ousetunes
27-07-2006, 15:20
I am so glad you find 0-4 defeats so funny

Imagine the laughs you will have next season watching the Blunts:)

Not quite Mr Blue.

Any Wendy defeat is fun.

4-0 drubbings to teams like Mansfield. Well, that's quite hilarious.

PS: I always laugh when I watch the Blades. Believe me, a sense of humour is a prerequisite for any Blades fan!

mr_blue_owl
27-07-2006, 15:32
Not quite Mr Blue.

Any Wendy defeat is fun.

4-0 drubbings to teams like Mansfield. Well, that's quite hilarious.

PS: I always laugh when I watch the Blades. Believe me, a sense of humour is a prerequisite for any Blades fan!

I know the feeling only too well .:)

madowl
27-07-2006, 17:33
Full credit to Mansfield they played their socks off and won the game well, we were BlOOOOOdy awful the last 15mins...:gag:
Sir Sturrock says he got it wrong..... :rant: a Managers job is to get it right!

another difficult season.......................?

Annoni_mouse
27-07-2006, 19:18
Full credit to Mansfield they played their socks off and won the game well, we were BlOOOOOdy awful the last 15mins...:gag:
Sir Sturrock says he got it wrong..... :rant: a Managers job is to get it right!

another difficult season.......................?

I know a 4-0 drubbing is hard to stomach, but lets just bare in mind it was ONLY a pre-season friendly.I mean, at the end of the day do you really care what happens in friendlies(derby games excepted)?

I'm just pleased if they avoid any major injuries in these games...

As for another difficult season, well probably. I don't really expect too much from us this season, i just hope we can consolidate and stay clear of the relegation places.

boboskins
27-07-2006, 21:33
but you lost 4-0 YES 4-0 to a distinctly poor side, and it was not like you was experimenting stuff, you had your first team out there in Adamson, Simek, Coughlan, Bougherra (Spurr 59), Bullen; Brunt, Lunt (McAllister 74), Folly, O'Brien (Whelan 59); MacLean, Burton (Graham 59). Subs: O'Donnell, McArdle, Boden.

It's hard to experiment when that is practically our entire squad you've listed. Missing from that would be Adams, Talbot, Small & Tudgay. Whelan is transfer listed and Graham is on his way to join his donkey mates on Blackpool beach. I'm a realist and know that a great season for us will be mid-table mediocrity, then build again after that. But any major injury crisis and we're going to be struggling again because the squad is that small.

canadablade
28-07-2006, 02:59
[QUOTE=Robbie_Lovin]obviously bob, this one result does not show what wednesdays achievements this season will be.

but you lost 4-0 YES 4-0 to a distinctly poor side, and it was not like you was experimenting stuff, you had your first team out there in Adamson, Simek, Coughlan, Bougherra (Spurr 59), Bullen; Brunt, Lunt (McAllister 74), Folly, O'Brien (Whelan 59); MacLean, Burton (Graham 59). Subs: O'Donnell, McArdle, Boden.
QUOTE]

:help: :help:
Just seen my cousins kid is back playing for the PIGS :gag:

Dot
28-07-2006, 08:52
Oh well that's it, League 1 here we come because we lost a FRIENDLY to the Mighty Stags. I'll not bother turning up the rest of the season then coz it's a forgone conclusion!

Hey but then again if we beat Middleborough on Saturday then our season will be back on track because that must make us better than half the Premiership and most of Europe (UEFA Cup finalist you know) so we'll definately get promoted ;)

Still well done to the Blades for beating those giants of Scottish football Inverness Cali and Greenock Morton. Which gives me an excuse to post that classic headline 'Super Cali go ballistic, Celtic are atrocious', genius :hihi:

I know that 1 result in a friendly game doesn't constitute a good or bad season, just having a bit of fun really :thumbsup:

By the way, love the headline :thumbsup:

madowl
28-07-2006, 11:19
do you really care what happens in friendlies
When you lose 4-0 you should care!! and worry what the hell the manager is upto... what kind of message is he giving the supporters? Oh well the lads are knacked??? oh thats ok then...:loopy:

why not just play the kids then....

boboskins
28-07-2006, 11:45
That result has just helped put our (meaning supporters) feet back on the ground. After the early signings of Lunt, Bougherra, Small and we all thought Carson was coming then even i was thinking 'ey up, we could be the dark horses for this season' but now all that's gone. Just have to settle for play-offs instead :hihi:

mack69
28-07-2006, 11:51
When you lose 4-0 you should care!! and worry what the hell the manager is upto... what kind of message is he giving the supporters? Oh well the lads are knacked??? oh thats ok then...:loopy:

why not just play the kids then....
oh my god kps has made a mistake we lost 4.0 to mansfield doom and gloom worry worry i want my season ticket money back i will never attend hillsbourgh again<<is that what your saying madowl? worry what the hell the managers up to. hes already addmited he made a mistake dont we all? he has not and will not make many so get off there backs before the season starts eh! jesus think back to the way we were b4 kps took over mate keep the faith:thumbsup:

mack69
28-07-2006, 11:58
p.s madowl we all care but does it really matter at the end of the day? if we lose 4.0 to preston when points are at stake thats a different story mate
KEEP BOUNCING :thumbsup: the lads had just got back from a tour of the u.s ad were tired (belive it if you want) i do but people like matty hamshaw and the other players at mansfield were out to prove a point .and that they did well done them back to the drawing board for the owls bring on boro

Annoni_mouse
28-07-2006, 14:19
When you lose 4-0 you should care!! and worry what the hell the manager is upto... what kind of message is he giving the supporters? Oh well the lads are knacked??? oh thats ok then...:loopy:

why not just play the kids then....

I'm not saying we should be pleased that we lost 4-0, but in the grand scheme of things,a poor performance in a meaningless game a week or so before the start of the season is hardly the worst thing in the world, is it?

Or let me put it another way-would you rather they had won 4-0 but lost one or more of the first team squad for any length of time due to injury?

Robbie Loving
28-07-2006, 17:03
It's hard to experiment when that is practically our entire squad you've listed. Missing from that would be Adams, Talbot, Small & Tudgay. Whelan is transfer listed and Graham is on his way to join his donkey mates on Blackpool beach. I'm a realist and know that a great season for us will be mid-table mediocrity, then build again after that. But any major injury crisis and we're going to be struggling again because the squad is that small.

reading got promoted using 19 players all last season

mack69
28-07-2006, 17:05
reading got promoted using 19 players all last season
you on a wind up rob ? 19 good players :hihi:

Robbie Loving
28-07-2006, 17:09
you on a wind up rob ?

:hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

19 good players :hihi:

hmmmm they had a very good defence. and the midfielders chipped in with goals, that was the main reason (along with getting few injuries) for their success last season

mack69
28-07-2006, 18:20
Will The Owls Ever Recover ??

Yes And You All Know It :d

SaveUK
28-07-2006, 18:23
Wednesday, 26 July 2006#

Friendly Match

Mansfield 4 - 0 Sheff Wed

Just not anytime soon

mack69
28-07-2006, 18:26
Wednesday, 26 July 2006#

Friendly Match

Mansfield 4 - 0 Sheff Wed

Just not anytime soon
OI bloody mansfield they had to many ex owls:confused:

madowl
28-07-2006, 22:02
Or let me put it another way-would you rather they had won 4-0its not the losing...4-0... its the way they lost:gag:

madowl
28-07-2006, 22:07
keep the faith:thumbsup:You been on the shandy mate or what?:P dont talk to me about keeping the faith... this is my 24TH season ticket mate!! thats not faith.... thats BELIEF

mack69
29-07-2006, 10:16
[QUOTE=madowl]You been on the shandy mate or what?:P
yes mate :thumbsup: i had 1 to many shandys;) sorry did not meen to sound patronising with the keep the faith i was just trying to cheer you up you sounded angry about the mansfield result please accept my appolgy :D

now im off to tavern(wordsworth will you be there ill buy you 1) for some more shandys then off t match

madowl
29-07-2006, 12:45
[QUOTE=madowl]You been on the shandy mate or what?:P
yes mate :thumbsup: i had 1 to many shandys;) sorry did not meen to sound patronising with the keep the faith i was just trying to cheer you up you sounded angry about the mansfield result please accept my appolgy :D

now im off to tavern(wordsworth will you be there ill buy you 1) for some more shandys then off t matchwordsworth taven..never been in..;) maybe if ya went to Gate b4 the match id see you there..that where im off to now for a quick shandy... enjoy the match:thumbsup:

mr_blue_owl
30-07-2006, 08:54
[QUOTE=Robbie_Lovin]obviously bob, this one result does not show what wednesdays achievements this season will be.

but you lost 4-0 YES 4-0 to a distinctly poor side, and it was not like you was experimenting stuff, you had your first team out there in Adamson, Simek, Coughlan, Bougherra (Spurr 59), Bullen; Brunt, Lunt (McAllister 74), Folly, O'Brien (Whelan 59); MacLean, Burton (Graham 59). Subs: O'Donnell, McArdle, Boden.
QUOTE]

:help: :help:
Just seen my cousins kid is back playing for the PIGS :gag:

I agree it is quite shameful to get beaten by a team that are two divisions below:rolleyes:
I assume United were coach-lagged at Scunny?:D

Robbie Loving
30-07-2006, 15:39
[QUOTE=canadablade]

I agree it is quite shameful to get beaten by a team that are two divisions below:rolleyes:
I assume United were coach-lagged at Scunny?:D

I agree we should not have lost

but it was by far from our first team out there

Bennett (Annerson 78), Geary, Unsworth, Naughton, Morgan, Luckett, Gillespie, Law, Akinbiyi (Shipperley 58), Kabba (Ashmore 71), Wright (Nade 58).
Unused: McFadzean

james1k
11-08-2006, 18:38
Ive been looking around the various websites for sunday league football sites for the sheffield leagues and non of then ever give you the the information you require. Like the top goalscorers for example. Or which players scored in a particular game.


I currently administer a website warminsterwanderers.co.uk who currently play in the sunday imperial league and im thinking of expanding that site for people outside the club do get more detailed information on games or scorers ect.

I have set up an ideas section on the forum on that site so if anyone has any ideas or currenlty plays in a league or for a club and you dont get all the information you would like please feel free to post in that forum as i regulaly check this and i can look at your ideas and see what i can do.