Myself and my partner are looking at a property to buy in Stocksbridge at present and I wondered if anyone had any knowledge of the area. We are in S6 at the moment and would like to stay but can't find what we need at the right price etc.

Whats the nightlife like (if any)?
What' the crime rate like?
Schools (first born on the way)?
etc etc

Would be glad of any comments.

Many thanks

Claycraft. :wave:

You need to be a mountain goat to live there...... too many damn steep hills....

Originally posted by claycraft
Whats the nightlife like (if any)?
It comprises of kids hanging around in gangs on the streets.

Originally posted by claycraft
What' the crime rate like?
It comprises of kids hanging around in gangs on the streets.

Originally posted by claycraft
Schools (first born on the way)?
It comprises of kids hanging around in gangs on the streets.

:thumbsup:

Well I have been there over a year now, never seen any crime.

Nightlife! What nightlife?

Schools seem okay, you can look up the school information on the web.

I have found the area to be very nice and quiet, I mean you wouldn't be able to get any closer to the peak district without paying extortionate house prices.

erm my step nan lives there!!

great place. very hilly.

very close comunity (my step mums whole family live within a stones throw of each other litrally)

good schools! night life alright more clubby pubs on main road #, but the further up you get the quieter it gets. Good golf course. and if you get one- amazing view! easpecially when snowing!!

good food shop (lidl) very cheap food and good value!!

great place to live!!!

Originally posted by Tony
It comprises of kids hanging around in gangs on the streets.


It comprises of kids hanging around in gangs on the streets.


It comprises of kids hanging around in gangs on the streets.

:thumbsup:

Hes lying its really nice!!

you tease tony!!

Originally posted by Fletch
very close comunity (my step mums whole family live within a stones throw of each other litrally)

Gene pools and valleys.:D

Well, of course Tony is speaking from the super safe refuge of the big city, which of course has such beautiful crime free areas such as Parsons Cross, Southey Green, Manor, Arbourthorne and of course the ultra clean city centre. NOT! Mad Max alludes at interbreeding which is of course the warped view of someone who has got nowt better to do than type crap into a computer. The crime rate is very low, mainly because everyone knows who the bad eggs are. We have far superior air quality and were surprised at the friendliness as soon as we moved here. We get snow when the city gets sleet and the hills look very pretty, and when we don't have snow we call it "Summer". The steelworks is not a problem. If you buy a house overlooking it then thats your choice of course. There are plenty of reasonably priced properties in the valley with views over farmland. Of course there are many parts of the city with this option. Glossop is 30 min away (Crystal Peaks is 45mins), Penistone likewise. We like it and won't have any city stick in the mud slagging it off. You don't need crampons anymore than Walkley and Crookes residents. Its a breath of fresh air up here in the cold north.

I like Deepcar & Stocksbridge

Originally posted by The Zeppelin
Well, of course Tony is speaking from the super safe refuge of the big city, which of course has such beautiful crime free areas such as Parsons Cross, Southey Green, Manor, Arbourthorne and of course the ultra clean city centre. NOT!

Tony is speaking as a resident of the Lodge Moor/ Fulwood area of the city which is virtually crime free and very clean and tidy. Much more pleasant than Stocksbridge IMO, which is just a steel making village full of inbreds and soon to be a ghost town when the steel works closes down. ;)

(though lets not turn this into a Stocksbridge Vs Sheffield thread)

No t020, regarding inbreds you're mistaking Stocksbridge for Buckingham Palace!!!
Bet that wouldn't stop you hanging around down there though, eh?

Well actually I quite like it and have a few pals there. What I meant was that nightlife, crime and schools consist of kids hanging around on the street corners. That is true isn't it, or are you saying that there is more nightlife, more crime and schools that don't have kids?

Lodge Moor/Fulwood has leafy streets and avenues. Not great open views of the countryside though I hasten to add. Kids do hang on street corners, even in Dore. There were around 20 sat behind a bus stop one night last week amid empty green bottles, but then I'm no more an expert on the leafy des. res. areas of Sheffield than you are on North Sheffield. I actually live at Deepcar where incidentally 400 private houses are soon to be being built under the picturesque Wharnecliffe Crags. The burglars won't have to travel from the city into Stocksbridge anymore, they have 400 new homes to have a go at marginally closer to home. The steelworks is not closing entirely, parts of it are closing. Some jobs are going true, and as an employee of Corus who works at both Rotherham and Stocksbridge I can safely assure you that you are generalising and reading the headline only. If you look at the smaller print below, you will learn more. Whatever, I will still see sheep and cows grazing the stone walled hills every morning from my kitchen window, this I am happy with.

Ecclesall, Dore, Fulwood, Lodge Moor are all on the edge of the Peak District actually. Fulwood also looks over the Mayfield Valley. I know that I can walk up the road for 10 mins and be on the edge of the Burbage Moors, which are, incidentally, pylon and steelwork free. ;)

Don't be so defensive Zeppelin! I said I liked it! But... if you want to be competitive...

In fact, there are plenty of views up here in Fulwood / Lodge Moor, far more than there are in the valley of Stocksbridge. I suspect that the views where I live are the best in the City - from the Peak District to the Humber!

As I am from North Sheffield originally I suspect that I may have known the area far longer than you as an "incomer". :)

Glad that you mentioned Wharncliffe Craggs. When I was younger, they were a regular hang out via Green Wood, Hall Wood and Greno’ Wood and I have been up and down the Cragg via Jacobs Ladder many times. I remember we once found a fox’s skeleton in the cave which caused lots of excitement at the possibility of the dragon that was rumoured to live there. (Yes I was that young!).

As for Deepcar, my father was the Community Bobby there for many years, and I bought my first car from Scholeys. Went to the College in Stockbridge for a very short time, and have run / cycled through the area loads. Dropping down Finkle Street on the bike from Wortley was a high speed blast with lots of frenetic braking and banking as you got to the Chequered Bridge. That was before the bypass was built though, so you probably won't know what I'm talking about.

... cycling up Jawbone was another matter! :(

A senior manager at the Works is a pal, and they have a nice lifestyle up by the dams. I'm generally aware of the situation there because my pal is one of those tasked with sorting it out.

Now if you re-read my original message I was basically saying that there is little crime, and that's it’s a nice place to live and there are lots of nice people. If all you have to worry about is kids on corners, I think that you are very lucky.

You do seem to have adopted the Valley Mentality quite quickly though! ;)

I agree with everything the Zepplin as said.

to20 Ecclesall, Dore, and Fulwood maybe all be on the edge of the Peak District but you pay about 4 TIMES THE PRICE for the same size property as you would in Stocksbridge.

Plus the views aren't quite the same, Eccleshall, Dore and Fulwood is all surburbia, so are full of housing estates. So all you get is a view of the rest of the houses, and oooh maybe a glimpse of a field.

Also why does it matter there is a Steelworks in the valley? It is part of Stocksbridge history. The plant is clean and noise is kept to a minimum.

Also as the Zepplin says, the Steelworks isn't shutting as the HEADLINES have said. Parts of the plant are staying open, some jobs will be lost yes but that is what happens with modernisation and recentralisation. You work over at Aldwarke then the Zepplin?

And guess what. If it wasn't for these steel works, there wouldn't be a Sheffield. And without pilons most of Sheffield wouldn't have power.

Originally posted by Skatiechik
I agree with everything the Zepplin as said.

to20 Ecclesall, Dore, and Fulwood maybe all be on the edge of the Peak District but you pay about 4 TIMES THE PRICE for the same size property as you would in Stocksbridge.

Plus the views aren't quite the same, Eccleshall, Dore and Fulwood is all surburbia, so are full of housing estates. So all you get is a view of the rest of the houses, and oooh maybe a glimpse of a field.

Also why does it matter there is a Steelworks in the valley? It is part of Stocksbridge history. The plant is clean and noise is kept to a minimum.

Also as the Zepplin says, the Steelworks isn't shutting as the HEADLINES have said. Parts of the plant are staying open, some jobs will be lost yes but that is what happens with modernisation and recentralisation. You work over at Aldwarke then the Zepplin?


Housing ESTATES? Don't use that term please. Streets, roads, avenues, etc... not ESTATES.

It matters that a steelworks is there because it spoils the views, along with all the pylons and a big, busy bypass.

Of course they're estates.:loopy: What else would you call roads lined with similar houses all built at the same time by the same developer?

Originally posted by max
Of course they're estates.:loopy: What else would you call roads lined with similar houses all built at the same time by the same developer?
Thank you Max. I couldn't be arsed arguing that point with the stuck up wannabe upper class toss pot. Not tonight anyway!

However you have stepped in and posted what I was thinking... t020 grow up man!

By the way I saw a young chap driving recently up your neck of the woods with a car number plate that started T020 (can't remember the last letters). Not you by any chance was it?

Estate: An estate is an area of land, usually in or near a city, which has been developed for housing or industry.

The use of the term "estate" has rather fallen into misuse, usually preceded by the term "sink". However, suburbia comprises estates, as does Chatsworth, Arundel and Sandringham. Nothing wrong with the word in the right context.

:lol: I can't believe people can't differentiate between a joke and a serious statement.

Originally posted by max
Of course they're estates.:loopy: What else would you call roads lined with similar houses all built at the same time by the same developer?

Roads? Although I was joking, it is fair to say that the term "estate" is used to describe either council/social housing estates or new developments that are easily distinguishable from other nearby houses. I have never heard (or used) the term to describe streets with mature housing.

That's a really strange comment, as most estates started out, more than likely with younger planyting with trees, even the leafy burbs of s11,at some time, with their magnificent canopies of leaves, must have been, at one time planted with immature trees, and maybe the builders just sort of waited for them to grow.

And, unfortunately, T020, yes, the word "estate" can be correctly used to describe a development of houses, built at the same time, in the same style, by the same developers, regardless of its age.

PT

Originally posted by Plain Talker


And, unfortunately, T020, yes, the word "estate" can be correctly used to describe a development of houses, built at the same time, in the same style, by the same developers, regardless of its age.

PT


True but the term is rarely used to describe established residential areas, be it Ecclesall, Fulwood, Walkley, Crookes, wherever.

Originally posted by t020
True but the term is rarely used to describe established residential areas, be it Ecclesall, Fulwood, Walkley, Crookes, wherever.

except maybe areas that are anywhere but S10/11, eh?

PT

By the way I saw a young chap driving recently up your neck of the woods with a car number plate that started T020 (can't remember the last letters). Not you by any chance was it?

ooo dear.. It's unlikely he'd tell you that... After all we don't even know his name... :P

Originally posted by Plain Talker
except maybe areas that are anywhere but S10/11, eh?

PT


Walkleys S6 actually.

i can't count, either...
pt

Heres some definitions of the terms "Estate" as quoted in the dictionary.

estate (PROPERTY)
noun [C]
a large area of land in the country which is owned by a family or an organization and is often farmed:
It's a typical country estate with a large house for the owner, farm buildings and estate workers' houses.

estate (BUILDINGS)
noun [C] UK
a group of houses or factories built in a planned way:
a housing estate, an industrial estate (a group of factories)

council estate UK noun [C] (US housing project)
an area of a city in which there are council houses and flats:
She was brought up in a council estate in Liverpool.

housing estate UK noun [C] (US housing development, ALSO subdivision)
an area containing a large number of houses or apartments built close together at the same time:
They live on/in a housing estate.

thank you, mega monty! :D

my point exactly!

PT

Thats it then.

Ecclesall (and Fulwood etc) are housing estates, but without any local industry to be proud of.:thumbsup:

It still doesn't alter the fact that it is very unlikely you will hear someone say something "Oh Fulwood, that ESTATE in Sheffield", yet very likely to hear "Oh Longley, that ESTATE in Sheffield". You can't dispute the fact that the word has negative connotations and is rarely used to describe established residential suburbs.

Originally posted by t020
It still doesn't alter the fact that it is very unlikely you will hear someone say something "Oh Fulwood, that ESTATE in Sheffield", yet very likely to hear "Oh Longley, that ESTATE in Sheffield". You can't dispute the fact that the word has negative connotations and is rarely used to describe established residential suburbs.

snob!
pt

Originally posted by t020
It still doesn't alter the fact that it is very unlikely you will hear someone say something "Oh Fulwood, that ESTATE in Sheffield", yet very likely to hear "Oh Longley, that ESTATE in Sheffield". You can't dispute the fact that the word has negative connotations and is rarely used to describe established residential suburbs.

So applying your logic we cant refer to the "Chatsworth Estate" in Derbyshire because it would lower the tone of the place because of negative connotations. What utter rubbish

How can the term "Estate" have negative connotations? or is it that you find the term "Estate" common?

Originally posted by mega_monty
So applying your logic we cant refer to the "Chatsworth Estate" in Derbyshire because it would lower the tone of the place because of negative connotations. What utter rubbish

How can the term "Estate" have negative connotations? or is it that you find the term "Estate" common?


Theres a difference between a grand countryside estate and a housing estate. Enough of the crap..... who would honestly describe Fulwood as an "estate"?

Originally posted by t020
Theres a difference between a grand countryside estate and a housing estate. Enough of the crap..... who would honestly describe Fulwood as an "estate"?

I repeat...

Snob!

PT

oops, pressed the wrong button

Originally posted by t020
Theres a difference between a grand countryside estate and a housing estate. Enough of the crap..... who would honestly describe Fulwood as an "estate"?

Me! Of course Fulwood is a housing estate. To be honest I don't see what is so special about it to other areas of the city.

Originally posted by Tony
As I am from North Sheffield originally I suspect that I may have known the area far longer than you as an "incomer". :)
Dropping down Finkle Street on the bike from Wortley was a high speed blast with lots of frenetic braking and banking as you got to the Chequered Bridge. That was before the bypass was built though, so you probably won't know what I'm talking about.

... cycling up Jawbone was another matter! :(


Born Ecclesfield, bred in Grenoside. Jawbone Hill....brakes were like jelly when we reached the bottom. And the midges in Coronation Park were something else as well. We used to cycle from Greno to Tin Mill each night in the summer, rod tied to Xbar, rucksack on back. I remember fishing on the island in the middle of the Tin Mill Dam, well before the bypass was even dreamed up. We had to cross a rickety old bridge to get on it. Halcyon days & long hot summers. Started work at Stoxbridge in '75, many friends in both areas but I'm not actually trying to defend mucky steelworks or Stoxbridge as such, more like trying to make the point in a roundabout way that I like my area and won't have a ponce like Mr t20 slagging it off just because he lives on a posh estate in the centre of the city!!!

Originally posted by t020
Enough of the crap.....

Well shut up then! If theres any crap on here its always from you.

would like to say as an incomer that some times it takes a fresh eye to appreciate a city.

Although sheffield is still new to me (or maybe because). I've found special places in most of the areas i've visited so far.

Sometimes what's special is not necessarily in your face.

Zeppelin, you qualify! I take it all back ;) The Wharncliffe Craggs Dragon still needs investigating though :) T020, do you have a dragon or any other such folk lore around Ecclesall?

Originally posted by t020
:lol: I can't believe people can't differentiate between a joke and a serious statement.
Poeple would have probably taken it as a joke had you not already indicated your disliking of the area you live being called an estate here (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?postid=18702#post18702)!

Which was posted if I'm not mistaken... last July!!!!

So don't come the innocent line with us... we know your true colours!

Originally posted by caprice
ooo dear.. It's unlikely he'd tell you that... After all we don't even know his name... :P
I noticed he has side stepped that question. I bet it IS his car too!

:thumbsup:

Deepcar and stocksbridge are both nice! The nightlife isnt too bad u kno thrs loads of pubs some good some crap but there you go theirs loadsa food places and shops selling quite alot. My mums selling her 3 bedroomes semi-detached cottage witha gym and off shot double garage and a veranda for £180 k. Its in deepcar though behind the royal oak pub.

Originally posted by Tony
Zeppelin, you qualify! I take it all back ;) T020, do you have a dragon or any other such folk lore around Ecclesall?

Yes they do have dragons on the Ecclesall estate, I've seen them.

They're not green like the common ones though.

They have blue rinses, fox fur coats, diamond brooches and look daggers at you if you dare to greet them without an invite.

This is getting funny. A dragon with a blue rinse, don't know about that around Grenoside though - we used to go through the Norfolk Arms garden when it was badly overgrown convinced there was a massive lion lurking about somewhere. The thistles were head high and it was really possible to get lost in what is now a nice beer garden. About Grenoside, although I was raised there from the age of 4, there ain't no way we'll go back. Its pretty dead innit? It was my playground, racing round the Woodyard, watching the big quarry fire, raiding St Helena's haunted farm for raspberries and gooseberries, spud picking for Hawkes on the field next to Wheata Wood, trying for years to get into the air raid shelter at the bottom of Norfolk Hill. Never saw a dragon though, not with blue hair anyway, Jesus sandals yes, but no blue hair.

Hi The Zepplin.----What the hell is "Corus". I used to Work at a place called Sammy Foxes 1952-1955. It was a large steelworks,and I was an apprentice machinist in the Testhouse machineshop.there were 6000 employees there at that time.This was before Margaret Thatcher destroyed the steel industry of course.It was world famous for stainless steel.

Corus formerly known as British Steel. I think before that was it United Steelworks or something like that?

I come from Stocksbridge born and bread. Enjoy living there but now i am growing up i am moving out of the valley. Stocksbrige has loads of history and lots of things to do. exporling is great with the peaks and woods.

Night live in stocksbridge is dead after 11.00pm. So I never bother and tend to go to Headcharge once a month, allnighter.

Transport is a big problem with a poor link to sheffield. I use my car to get to middle wood then bike at rush hour to beet the tarffic.:thumbsup: