View Full Version : Know Athercliffe Common?


bauble
09-12-2005, 19:33
:help: Does anyone know anything about Athercliffe Common? Is it the now known Attercliffe Common? I am specifically searching for a gunsmiths by the name of Lound at Athercliffe Common. I would be very grateful for any help with this search.

pk014b7161
09-12-2005, 19:44
i have never known a gunsmith at attercliffe

drolnhoj
09-12-2005, 20:19
Are you talking about in the past or are you talking current? If you are talikng in the past then I have some old books I can look through.

retep
09-12-2005, 20:48
1925 john william lound mechanical engineer
1901 john lound cycle manufacturer
1901 thomas lound machine turner steel factory

bauble
10-12-2005, 05:51
Many thanks to pkoq4b7161; droinhoj and retep for your replies. In response to droinhoj - I am talking about the past and would appreciate any information you can provide.

retep
10-12-2005, 08:20
How far in the past would help.

hutch
10-12-2005, 16:01
looking in the Kellys directorys they were engineers through the 1920's through to my newest 1970 no mention of guns,
Plus the 1881 census does not show a gunsmith:mad:

bauble
11-12-2005, 08:20
:confused:
Thank you all for your contributions. In terms of dates - I am not sure! It would be a useful starting point, maybe, if I knew whether Attercliffe Common was formerly, Athercliffe Common and therefore around what time the name changed. Can anyone provide information about how I might find out?

retep
11-12-2005, 12:14
Perhaps it would be better if you gave what information you have, where do you get your Athercliffe from and what info on Lound any initials, Attercliffe Road was Carlton Road but I think Attercliffe Common has always been,
does your information come from the makers stamp.

bauble
11-12-2005, 13:29
Details are on the barrel of an old gun: 'Lound Athercliffe Common Sheffield'

I have no idea about its age - I am trying to find out about its history

retep
11-12-2005, 15:41
Can only think Mr Lound could'nt spell,
most likely one of the Lounds mentioned, they were in Masbrough 1861
Thomas is a machine maker driller in 1891

bauble
11-12-2005, 18:36
I have had the same thought! I will search on your lead - many thanks.

Strix
12-12-2005, 01:45
Aaaahhhhh, why didn't you say so before?

Perhaps Lound was only the owner of the gun?

If the gun was made in e.g. Birmingham, that would explain why attercliffe was spelled wrong too - lack of local knowledge ;)

I'd start looking at patterns for guns from the Birmingham gunsmiths, and see if you get a match ;) (Birmingham - only because I believe that it was a large centre for gun making)


On second thoughts - I'm fairly certain there was some gun place that can be seen from the train from sheffield out to Meadowhall :suspect:, but for some reason I suspect it's not so much a manufacturer, but a barrel proofer (kinda thing).

Strix
12-12-2005, 02:54
http://www.gmackinlay.com/gun_pages/1404.html

bauble
12-12-2005, 04:35
Many thanks Strix - I will try your suggestions.

"Two heads are always better than one!"

retep
12-12-2005, 12:38
Looks like it was John William Lound, he's at 24 Attercliffe Common in 1901
cycle manufacturer and engineer.
is there a proof mark on the gun, if not he may have made his own.

Arfer Mo
07-11-2006, 13:39
Can only think Mr Lound could'nt spell,
most likely one of the Lounds mentioned, they were in Masbrough 1861
Thomas is a machine maker driller in 1891
maybe something to do with lound rd

Dunlop St
13-12-2006, 22:54
I lived in Carbrook during the 40s and 50s and I cannot for the life of me remember a gunsmiths.
It wasn't the most law-abiding place in those days and as an ex PC I don't think a gunsmith would have been allowed premises there.
The one I knew was by the bus station towards West Bar near the motorbike shop.
I think the suggestion that a Birmingham maker allowed someone's name to be engraved is a likely answer.