do you agree that tennagers are under alot of pressure from course at high school and college???

don't you think we need our own time too socialise than stayin in and do all our course work!!! WE'D HAVE NOOOO LIFE :mad: :rant: :help:

I have no clue as unfortunately I left my teenage years far behind me :(

I think that there is far too much homework given these days. Homework used to be a way of teaching students to have a bit of self discipline, and to get them using other sources of information. Now, the curriculum is so vast, there is not a hope in whatsit of fitting it all into the school/college day, so syudents are told to do it all at home. It is wrong, wrong, wrong! Yes, a bit of homework for the above reasons, but they are only young once for heavens sake!

If you are still at college the pressure has'nt even started yet.
It will get considerably worse- work, kids, mortgage etc.
Good luck mate.
:) :) :) :)

Originally posted by EZZI
do you agree that tennagers are under alot of pressure from course at high school and college???

don't you think we need our own time too socialise than stayin in and do all our course work!!! WE'D HAVE NOOOO LIFE :mad: :rant: :help:

Well, yeah. Although it's quite a while since I was a teenager, I remember it as pretty high pressure. Educationally your whole future hangs in the balance, and at the same time you're supposed to be getting the hang of being an adult. All of this without any real guidance, since the world is inevitably completely different from that which your 'elders' grew up in.

If you ask me, its no wonder teenagers get depressed!

I don't and didn't find homework a problem, we were much more independant in college and tended to get simple homework or non at all.

The main problem is that coursework has become the predominant form of testing, or will do soon. We had 12 coursework assignments over 2 years at college, each requiring research and a lot of time.

What was worse was the fact that the coursework actually took us backwards - I did an IT course and we were told to use a spreadsheet to create a database, to use a database to create a full blown application, and to use visual basic to create a database. All of which made no sense (to me at least).

Testing and Coursework should be evened out across the curriculum - testing is an easier method for most students of assessement and coursework is a better long term method to ensure understanding.

errrrrrrrrrrrrrr NO!

Teenager-hood brings its own pressures as do all periods of life, but as for 'too much' pressure - you must be joking!!!!

Originally posted by EZZI

don't you think we need our own time too socialise than stayin in and do all our course work!!! WE'D HAVE NOOOO LIFE :mad: :rant: :help:

Well consider the alternative...sign on and have NOOOOOOOOO LIFE on benefits.

Obviously that is a whole other debate...but I know which I prefered.

Moon

doesn't mean you end up on benifits not going to college y'know.

Teenager years are rough for some people. Pressure might be the wrong word. Some teenagers need a rocket up their arse to get them going. Some teenagers need to slow down and not try and please everyone before they end up on prozac at an earlier age. Find a balance 'yo. What is the worse that is gonna happen if you don't do something on time? Probably nothing much if it's a one off. What is the worse that is gonna happen if you did nothing at all? Probably waste your life away. As long as you are doing something and socialising is a big part of that because it's a life skill then you'll be alright. Need that balance. While you are a teenager though, you can work hard and play hard. I know I did. Now I hardly work and still play hard :) but I am 25 and I've had a full time job until May this year since I was 16.

The age when things become good is 21. I've loved being 21+ all the years before then was so so. Fudge people saying they are the best years of your life cus that adds pressure to.

i know the arguments that'll come - are those who are caught pregnant etc but you still can enjoy life. An ex of mine had a child at 16 (not mine I met her after) and she would agree 21+ was a good age even though with a 5 year old.

Now I've added pressure to those who aren't still having fun at 21+. :p

What I'm saying is that you'll put pressure on yourself trying to please everyone. Make sure you have some fun to. You can still work 20 hours a week and be full time in college while still having time to play. I know loads of people who do it...

Originally posted by Gethical
doesn't mean you end up on benifits not going to college y'know.


if they are complaining now what hope do they have?

nothing wrong with complaining. I never went to college and didn't leave school with much. I turned out alright.

I bitched like a fish wife when I was a teenager cus people told be this was the best days of my life and I hated that they wasn't. So what I'm saying if I knew what I knew now I would of enjoyed them more cus I would of taken it. Instead of people saying "oh, when you have a mortgage, kids, blah, blah, blah".

I was saying just enjoy the bad situation and the best years are still to come. Trying to offer some advice that although you are busy, find time to enjoy yourself to.

But some more advice: Don't bitch too much because not many people have sympathy all the time. Just try and enjoy it.

The clouds of behooded, spotty oiks drifting around of an evening in various parts of Sheffield don't look like they're under too much pressure. In fact they look as though a bit of it might give them something like a purpose in life.

Trouble is, on the flip side, school does work you hard if you're any good. If you're disappearing up your own backside with the workload you can at least consider it a compliment to your own abilities. Your teenage years certainly aren't the best of your life, at least not until you can shuck off the monkey of school. But fear not, the wonderful period that is 18-30 is incredibly close.

pressure my arse, give your mummy £10 a week and she will wash your cloths, feed you, and wipe your bottom. come on wake up a bit here !!!!!

No
If they were taught to use their brain instead of how to press keys on a calculator or computer they would probably find it easier. I understand it's the age of technology and we used caculators and computers but we were taught to do it using our brain and reasoning first then shown the easier ways like computer and calculator use to do it.
You can train a monkey to press keys but it doesen't mean he can do maths he doesn't know why other than he will get a peice of fruit or something.

Originally posted by EZZI
do you agree that tennagers are under alot of pressure from course at high school and college???

don't you think we need our own time too socialise than stayin in and do all our course work!!! WE'D HAVE NOOOO LIFE :mad: :rant: :help:

Not spent too much time on literacy then? Joking aside, you won't know what's hit you when you're working, have kids to take care of, have a home of your own with cooking and cleaning etc etc etc

Kids who want to do well (and I reckon that's actually most kids) are under pressure these days because they have so many choices to make. It's not just a question of what to study and how often to do your homework, it's deciding who you want to be that can be a problem. kids who are easy-going and are happy to run with the crowd do have it easier in this respect, but those who don't feel they can fit in to that lifestyle *are* under a lot of pressure.

Even those kids who run with the crowd can be under strain, trying to fit in isn't always that easy, especially if you ahve no money or the *wrong* stuff.

yeah being old isn't much fun either, but what we have are responsibilities and we know what we have to do (go to work, don't break the law etc) but for a lot of young people they just don't know what's expected of them, by adults and by their peers.

As for schoolwork, I have to say I'd have hated it these days and may well have failed badly. Much of the time I used to do nothing and then swot up for the exams and come out on top. Plus it was easier to get into a good Uni, even Oxford used entrance exams (meaning you could get in on 2 grade Es). You can't get away with that these days.

It's 5am and i have another 2000 words to write for the morning! I've got little sympathy for you's now!!
Well, that's my fault for leaving it so late, I agree there's far too much pressure on teenagers. If i do get this essay in and pass i'll hopefully get into the teaching course and I know that as a teacher i'd make sure that most of the work is done in class time,when there's the teacher there to help, and homework only given when there's no other choice.

And as for comments like this 'un here:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by joyphil
[B]The clouds of behooded, spotty oiks drifting around of an evening in various parts of Sheffield don't look like they're under too much pressure. In fact they look as though a bit of it might give them something like a purpose in life.

That's really unfair to teenagers like yourself who are obviously trying their best, in spite of such criticism from people like this 'un here! Good luck to you, you'll be grand!:thumbsup:

Originally posted by EZZI
do you agree that tennagers are under alot of pressure from course at high school and college???

don't you think we need our own time too socialise than stayin in and do all our course work!!! WE'D HAVE NOOOO LIFE :mad: :rant: :help:

I agree.... kids need time to play as well. I was educated later on in life and I felt it.... :gag: the Govt. is just making excuses for their own failures and putting the onus on the youth..... teachers know the best route but their hands are tied.

response to the original question, most deff .. defining where that pressure comes from & why is the only real debate, some of the pressure is of there own making some is expectations from relatives but worst is probably the peer pressure. I actually think considering the spin media trys to put on it Teenagers are ok in my book, well in general they far exceed the picture painted of them regularly in media

IT ONLY AGREE OR A DISAGREE STATEMENT!!! LETS NOT TAKE IT INTO ADULTHOOD!!!
WE DO WORK HARD IF ANY OF U R THINKING WE DON'T!!
AM JUST SETTING A DISCUSSION.

when i went to college i had a full time course job and was a mother of a toddler as well allthough i was in my late teens when i did this i got through it and now ive finished i party. when at college u should spent time studying and if u can go out and see freinds as well great. its worth getting your head down and doing your work as u have all the time in the world to party after wards IMO.

I've always thought that childen nee teenagers are under too much pressure. We have this society where you're expected to make big decisions at 14, 16 and 18 and then kinda stick to them.

I flunked out of school at with no 'o' levels (god, I am old) but, like others, have educated myself over the years. It can be done and people shouldn't like not achieving at 16 or 18 or 21ish is the end of the world.

the only pressure my teenage daughter has in when her messenger goes down and she can't log on to chat with her mates.........hard life innit :rolleyes:


(i know your reading this missy)

Its not that long ago since i was in your position Ezzi, i felt the same, it is hard. If your at college you've got the whole self discipline thing to get on with, which is a hard adjustment. Your made to go to school, u dont have to go to college, it is harder. However, i can remember getting stressed at G.C.S.E which in my opinion looking back now was a piece of p***! At uni now, have coursework - essays, reports, presentations, book reviews, reading for seminars etc. and working a part time job because student loan dont stretch very far. Paying bills, no longer having me mam do everything for me...A levels seem a time i'd love to go back to! It gets worse so just try and enjoy yourself before it get harder! Dont get too worked up and try and plan your time, it really helps!

I've noticed some of my pupils struggling at the start of year 12, there is definitely an increase in workload and pressure when you move from GCSEs to 6th form.
I get into trouble if I don't SET homework when I'm supposed too! So we're under pressure too, especially when the head asks to see someone to ask why their class results are down on last year!
But, then of course they're under pressure to do well in league tables.................................

Yes! They most certainly are! And it comes right from the ‘top’. The society we now live in has become obsessed with material prosperity and the elimination (wherever possible) of every element of risk. Every department of government, industry and academia is, in reality more accountable to the banks, accountants and insurance companies than they are to the people they purport to serve. It has therefore been imposed upon us, (by whom, exactly, no-one seems to know) that we should keep tight accounts, and be made to be accountable for every penny we spend, every action we take and every word we say in the name of the institution that employs us. Similarly, we must be able to demonstrate in some material ‘scientific’ way (usually by means of a spreadsheet) that we are continually improving on our (already improved) productivity. (Much demands more!)

Academic institutions are certainly no exception. It is demanded of them that they prove to the education department that their (already ‘good’) results are ‘improving’ so that the government can ‘prove’ to the voter that they are worth electing back into power on the grounds that they have ‘bettered’ our education system.

In order to do this they have to come up with ‘proof’ statistics and the only statistics that are easily quantifiable, and which are capable of being put on a spreadsheet are those of exam passes. It matters little, about teaching all of our younger people things like: The value of their present (relative) freedom (a ‘freedom’ that is now being stolen from them piece by piece); the price their grandparents were willing to pay in order to win that freedom for them; the enjoyment and quality of life; moral decision making; the privileges and responsibilities of relationship building etc. etc. The outcome of these things can’t be quantified so easily or quickly as exam passes can.

We live in a ‘push button’ age, a society that demands instant results, quantifiable results, and results that can be ‘proved’ to be making society materially better off (but at what price to the quality of life?)

And of course the upshot of all this is that our young people are being used as a ‘political football’ for the government and the voter to kick around! What’s more, it seems that the people who are getting kicked the hardest are the very ones who are trying hardest to achieve something!

Try going through your son or daughter’s homework with them, and then ask yourself: ‘Did I have this level of pressure placed upon me when I was that age?’ …Unless you are under 25, the answer is: No!

I have every sympathy!

Originally posted by EZZI
IT ONLY AGREE OR A DISAGREE STATEMENT!!! LETS NOT TAKE IT INTO ADULTHOOD!!!
WE DO WORK HARD IF ANY OF U R THINKING WE DON'T!!
AM JUST SETTING A DISCUSSION.

Firstly a little hard work on your English would be very helpful (pronouns and sentence structure are both good things!) secondly a yes / no question and a discussion are mutually exclusive.

Now onto the original question - yes teenagers (and younger people) are under too much pressure. Schools and colleges seem to have shifted there emphasis from educating a person for life to educating a person for a job which are two very different aims. It seems that the emphasis on a career path is being pushed onto younger and younger people which can only bring with it both short term ("pass these subjects or you will never get anywhere") and long term ("I'm stuck in this career as my education is so narrow that I can't do anything else"). This is wildly unrealistic (at age 35 I'm still trying to work out what I want to be when I grow up) and will, I believe, lead to a population of corporate clones without the breadth of education and experience required to be a fully rounded individual.

Ermmmm I'll step of my soapbox now!

Don't start me on this subject!!

I definitely agree with you that teenagers are given FAR TOO MUCH homework to the degree that its ridiculous. I think that schools are way too focussed on their places within the league tables and no longer see the students as individuals. It seems like the fun has gone out of it and its all so results driven now. Tutors become obsessed with it all and their stress transfers onto many of their students.

I told all my 3 teenagers NEVER to take on board the stresses of their tutors (let them be as obsessed as they like with Ofsted reports and the rest of it but don't try dumping their obsessions onto my kids).

My daughter is currently studying for her GCSE's and I can see an enormous change in her personality. She smiles and laughs less, takes life more seriously and hardly ever goes out with friends anymore as she is always surrounded by books.

And I strongly disagree with the piles of homework she has for during the holidays. Hello, but holidays are supposed to be for resting and re-charging aren't they???

Its all very well being 'academic' but lets not forget the importance of good social skills. Having good social skills can get a person a long, long way and shouldn't be underestimated. I personally value these and good self confidence more than academic skills. But thats me .... :)

Originally posted by EZZI
do you agree that tennagers are under alot of pressure from course at high school and college???

don't you think we need our own time too socialise than stayin in and do all our course work!!! WE'D HAVE NOOOO LIFE :mad: :rant: :help:

there is often too much homework and I don;t think kids are educated they are spoon fed.

I do however believe that teenagers today have far more choices and help than any other time. The stuff I've seen also seems to be a lot easier than 10 years ago (granted you have to do more)

so pressure, no, more work yes.

Originally posted by Cardinal
I've always thought that childen nee teenagers are under too much pressure. We have this society where you're expected to make big decisions at 14, 16 and 18 and then kinda stick to them.

I flunked out of school at with no 'o' levels (god, I am old) but, like others, have educated myself over the years. It can be done and people shouldn't like not achieving at 16 or 18 or 21ish is the end of the world.

unlike the good old days when by 14 they would either be married off or working down the pit, eh?