View Full Version : Missing Signing Date with for JSA


cpatte7372
07-04-2011, 11:33
Hello Forum,

I've posted here in the past and got some good unbiased advice. So here we go again.

I'm going to missing my signing day for Job Seekers Allowance. I won't be able to sign on due to having to go travel to Leeds to attend a funeral. My signing day is the 20th April and I will be away from the 19th until the 24th April. I called JSA for advice and they simply said if I'm not available to sign for reasons other than job interview or job related activity then I would lose my benefit.

However, I sure there must be situations where people have simply not been able to sign on for various reasons, (even because there abroad) and still not had there JSA withdrawn?

Your advice in this matter will be greatly appreciated....

Cheers

Carlton

P.S.

If I don't reply to your responses immediately I will as soon as I return from a job boot camp.

DenadaInnit
07-04-2011, 11:36
Hi, you can ask for a holiday form which will excuse you from signing on that day I think.

Tell them that you have a holiday in the UK. Don't, what ever you do, tell them you are going abroad. If you do they will sign you off and you'll have to go through the drama of re-registering.

I know it's not a holiday but it should be the easiest form of getting out of signing on.

LKay
07-04-2011, 11:41
Hey there, sorry for your troubles. It is so stressful when they lay this one on you at the JobCentre Plus. I was in a similar situation a year ago and often if you convince them that you are not taking the michael and in fact you have a legitimate reason for not attending then it will be fine. I think they have a default mode when they speak to and deal with all sign-onners as they expect wasters (which I don't agree with of course).

mynameisdan
07-04-2011, 12:52
or get a job.

dink
07-04-2011, 12:57
or get a job.

If he got a job he would still be in the same boat wouldnt he? :huh:

mynameisdan
07-04-2011, 12:59
If he got a job he would still be in the same boat wouldnt he? :huh:

Employers would allow time off work for such matters. Alternatively you could use your annual leave/holiday days.

Leah-Lacie
07-04-2011, 13:41
Would it not be better to just tell them hes away at a funeral on the signing day, rather than telling them its a 'holiday'? Don't they have 'compassionate' rules?

And 5 days is quite a while to be away when its only in Leeds.

Digsy
07-04-2011, 13:41
Alternatively you can sign on at a jobcentre closer to where the funeral is.
For example I did a four week stint around Grimbsy/Cleethorpes/Skegness to raise money for Charity. One sign on day was in Skegness, and they sent the giro to the campsite office.
Second signing day was in Grimbsy and I had to pick up the giro.

So you could request to sign on at a jobcentre closer to where the funeral is.

Oh I forgot to add, you do have to state that you will still look for work in Leeds whilst your there.

mynameisdan
07-04-2011, 13:49
And 5 days is quite a while to be away when its only in Leeds.

I agree.

Unless the funeral actually takes place on the day you were to sign, couldn't you just commute?

verydull
07-04-2011, 13:50
I think the best thing to do is a holiday form...

fake
07-04-2011, 13:52
I'm sure that under the JSA rules you are allowed time off due to bereavement, not sure for how long though so its best to get in touch with them first and ask.

Otherwise you could have up to 2 weeks in any 6 month period for sickness without having to get a doctors certificate. You notify them you are sick and cant sign on and they will send you a form to fill in (sort of self certification).

Hope that helps.

PS
Don't mention you are going on holiday or the will try and get you to sing off for that period which means you will lose benefit.

Leah-Lacie
07-04-2011, 13:54
I'm sure they used to get funny about holidays. A. You shouldn't be able to afford a holiday and B. You won't be job seeking on holiday and therefore are not eligible to claim... Or is that just abroad?

verydull
07-04-2011, 13:57
holidays abroad are a no go on JSA, but holidays in the UK are ok...

Leah-Lacie
07-04-2011, 14:03
I agree.

Unless the funeral actually takes place on the day you were to sign, couldn't you just commute?

If the funeral is on the signing day, I'm sure they'd let you rearrange, maybe for the next day, but, as you are away for almost a week, that wouldn't work. Leeds is only 30 minutes away on a train though, do you HAVE to stay that long?

barleycorn
07-04-2011, 14:18
What day is the funeral on? You could always go to Leeds on the 19th, nip back to Sheff to sign on and then go back to Leeds. That said, five days seems like a long time for a funeral.

jb

mynameisdan
07-04-2011, 14:28
Maybe there is no Funeral. Maybe the OP is jetting off somewhere from Leeds. . . and they want to know how to convince/get around the JSA's policies. . . .

Leah-Lacie
07-04-2011, 14:28
He might be just staying with family and doing mass family visits, probably getting a lift there and back from someone who intends to make it into a mini break.

DenadaInnit
07-04-2011, 14:53
Why all the negativity about going to a funeral for five days? It's obvious that the funeral is one day but why can't the OP be around to offer support to the bereaved family!

Blimey. Being on the JSA is like a prison sentence whereby some people think that jobseekers should be at it 24/7. The dole office don't 'do' compassion so again I would advise a holiday form.

Mister M
07-04-2011, 15:01
Why all the negativity about going to a funeral for five days? It's obvious that the funeral is one day but why can't the OP be around to offer support to the bereaved family!

Blimey. Being on the JSA is like a prison sentence whereby some people think that jobseekers should be at it 24/7. The dole office don't 'do' compassion so again I would advise a holiday form.

If being on JSA is like a prison sentence, then being on JSA and asking for advice from SheffieldForummers is like being in the stocks and having rotten vegetables thrown at you!

Some folk roung here don't do symapthy.

SnailyBoy
07-04-2011, 15:01
Hello Forum,

I've posted here in the past and got some good unbiased advice. So here we go again.

I'm going to missing my signing day for Job Seekers Allowance. I won't be able to sign on due to having to go travel to Leeds to attend a funeral. My signing day is the 20th April and I will be away from the 19th until the 24th April. I called JSA for advice and they simply said if I'm not available to sign for reasons other than job interview or job related activity then I would lose my benefit.

However, I sure there must be situations where people have simply not been able to sign on for various reasons, (even because there abroad) and still not had there JSA withdrawn?

Your advice in this matter will be greatly appreciated....

Cheers

Carlton

P.S.

If I don't reply to your responses immediately I will as soon as I return from a job boot camp.

Why all the negativity about going to a funeral for five days? It's obvious that the funeral is one day but why can't the OP be around to offer support to the bereaved family!

Blimey. Being on the JSA is like a prison sentence whereby some people think that jobseekers should be at it 24/7. The dole office don't 'do' compassion so again I would advise a holiday form.

Considering the OP has already explained the reason to Jobcentre Plus for missing a signing day, now calling it a holiday might not be the best advice.