why wasnt the uk public half as generous about the asian earthquake, compared to the tsunami?

Not that I hold this view personally but I imagine there is alot of phobia about Pakistan here the UK.

It's difficult to be compassionate about a country where extremists go to learn how to make bombs. This doesn't necessarily reflect the views and idea's about the Pakistani people (or any Muslims for that matter) but lets face it there are monsters out there who do take advantage of poverty stricken countries like Pakistan to hide from the rest of the world.

Didn't see the world leaders and thier peoples rushing to help America either...simular reasons I suspect.

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Not just the public either - the authorities were very slow off the mark and are probably still failing the people who really need the help - I wonder how many will die unnecessarily due to this in-activity.

Originally posted by newusername
why wasnt the uk public half as generous about the asian earthquake, compared to the tsunami?

I agree with Trentboy2;

"It's difficult to be compassionate about a country where extremists go to learn how to make bombs. This doesn't necessarily reflect the views and idea's about the Pakistani people.."

They burn our flags in their streets, and generally seem to hate our guts as the 'little Satan'

And then theres this (http://www.zenit.org/english/visualizza.phtml?sid=81032)

If that article is true kay_cee then I'm really quite shocked but not all that surprised.

It's the old Christian Vs Muslim quarrel.

How ironic that they both worship the same God, have the same values, adhere all thier beliefs to one book, both acknowledge Jesus and Moses and both preach that dying in the name of God is ok.

Personally I think God would be pretty p*ssed if I sacrificed the greatest gift there is...life.

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Originally posted by trentboy2

How ironic that they both worship the same God, have the same values, adhere all thier beliefs to one book, both acknowledge Jesus and Moses and both preach that dying in the name of God is ok.

:loopy:

Well trentboy, we don't believe in the same God. Allah and Yahweh are clearly two different entities.

Also, nowhere in the Bible does it encourage you to seek death for the sake of God, (it does however mention that dying as a Christian might be the result of following God.)
Unlike numerous places in the Qur'an and Hadith which elevate death in Jihad as the ultimate goal.

But thats a different topic.........;)

oh its quick to say why help them when they hate us. but wasnt it pakistan who helped America in the war against terror? Pakistan are doing their best, they have caught so many people. you dont see people who are poor, who havent got enough to survive on for one single day getting the time to burn flags in streets!

I thought burning American flags was a sport in Pakistan?

I think its more about the media presentation of the two disasters.

The tsunami was filmed by loads of holiday makers camcorders and it was spectacularly shocking and something we hadn't seen before whereas we've seen loads of earthquakes and the pictures on TV weren't quite so dramatic.

Plus few people (apart from those who have family over there) will have been to Pakistan whereas many people may have been to Thailand or Sri Lanka on holiday and its the devastation of familiar places that gets us to put our hands in our pockets.

to be honest the tsunami involved more brits and westerners thats why i believe there were more interest

Salma;

Please refer to my first post where I purposely included trentboys phrase;

"This doesn't necessarily reflect the views and idea's about the Pakistani people.."

I'm more than aware it is sections of the Pakistani community rather than the whole that display this hatred for the west.

I do however feel these sections play a big part in the average westerners mind, rightly or wrongly, when considering whether to donate to the earthquake appeal.

Originally posted by kay_cee
Well trentboy, we don't believe in the same God. Allah and Yahweh are clearly two different entities.

Also, nowhere in the Bible does it encourage you to seek death for the sake of God, (it does however mention that dying as a Christian might be the result of following God.)
Unlike numerous places in the Qur'an and Hadith which elevate death in Jihad as the ultimate goal.

But thats a different topic.........;)


Think you missed my point mate, why follow a book?

I'd like to think the British public were suffering compassion fatigue.

We've only had about, like, ten or so 'disasters' this year. Hurricanes, tsunami, flooding, famine, dought....and top that with an earthquake.

I am a British Pakistani myself, and would like to believe that the English people are some of the kindest, friendliest people i have met. They are tolerant, open minded, accepting, adventurous and a mixed bunch. I guess i love them more now that i'm stuck in bloomin Denmark of all the far flung places on earth. Copenhagen, sod you...i'm coming to Sheffield.

Back to the topic at hand, do apologise for my cry of love, but i missed England like hell. Anyways, honestly speaking, i was a little short of flabbergasted when the Brit gvmt pledged some paltry sum for the earthquake victims. At the end of the day, the President of Pakistan is going ALL OUT, isolating himself from other muslim countries, he's had three assasination attempts and so forth just so the rest of the world can breathe easy knowing that Al Qaeda are being taken care of. So for them to desert him or not reward him and his countrymen when they needed help is just lame.

Even though Denmark is one of my top ten hates on the planet after having lived here for a year, the one thing that does pleasantly surprise me is how giving the Danes are. They immediately pledged millions, the public was giving, and the support is ongoing.

Anyways, i'm sleepy now...so if my writings are incoherent. Apologies from København!

Top man Somi!!

I'd like to think Somi has hit the nail on the head about the British attitude (then again I am white and middle class :rolleyes: ).

Muslims like any of you lot out there reading and replying to these threads only really want to do one thing and thats get by best you can. No one religion is any better than the other and no one nation more or less deserving than the other.

The Pakistani people will enivitably suffer. They've had an horrific time over the last few months but like any other country that might suffer the same terrible fate tough times are ahead. But us humans are tough nuts to crack and it takes more than mother nature to break us. Pakistan will endure and endevour as they have done for many years now.

To cause injustice to anyone no matter who they are or what they believe is to cause an injustice to yourself and surely that's just plain idiotic.

Right then rant over I'm off to hug a tree.... :thumbsup:

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I think Anne23 has the correct answer for me.

The Tsunami was constantly on the news and couple this with actual footage of the distaster then people can actually see what happened and therefore it is more shocking.

I stick to what SomiUK said.