Seems like the new Front leader marine Le pen is doing very well and is now tipped to beat sarkozys party the UMP in the presidential elections.:)

well looking at how often sarkozys in trouble a smurf could beat him tbh

Its good to see the Front National doing very well,I have high hopes for the new leader she is far more electable than her father ever was,its all good.:)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/21/french-local-elections-sarkozy-pen

Its good to see the Front National doing very well,I have high hopes for the new leader she is far more electable than her father ever was,its all good.:)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/21/french-local-elections-sarkozy-pen

Your moving to France?

Its good to see the Front National doing very well,I have high hopes for the new leader she is far more electable than her father ever was,its all good.:)

A party that supports outmoded tribalism based on an accident of geography at birth - mmmm sounds perfect.

A party that supports outmoded tribalism based on an accident of geography at birth - mmmm sounds perfect.
it does for Steiner, can see him high tailing to france right this moment

it does for Steiner, can see him high tailing to france right this moment

Not really, it's full of frogs. :hihi:

Another mischief thread that could turn out interesting.

just asked this dutch guy i know online that lives in france if hes worried and he replied
"nope, its a good sign, stirs up everyone a bit again, its needed"

it does for Steiner, can see him high tailing to france right this moment

Me too, although I think he's happy in Beighton trolling.

They have a history of popping up in France, but their representative system is different to here. It doesn't make them more formidable, just a little better organised than the BNP. They're still outside the mainstream of French politics.

They have a history of popping up in France, but their representative system is different to here. It doesn't make them more formidable, just a little better organised than the BNP. They're still outside the mainstream of French politics.

They are becoming more mainstream all the time,its noticeable how they polled well in areas with high immigrant Muslim communities from North Africa like Nice and Montpelier in southern France and also in the industrial north.
I think she could be on to something if she plays it right,after all the indigenous people of France dont have that much time left before they lose the chance to vote in sensible right wing parties with the way the immigrants are breeding and arriving there all the time.

La Croix (http://www.la-croix.com/afp.static/pages/110327191406.q4s8vabf.htm)

20H45 - Louis Aliot, the vice-président of the FN is beaten by a socialist candidate Toussainte Calabrèse.

I have faith in France. :)

Latest estimates - Le PS (Socialist Party) is at 36,2%, l'UMP (Union for Popular Movement) at 18,6% et le FN at 11,1% , according to the minister of the Intérieur.

Not really a victory, is it?

Latest estimates - Le PS (Socialist Party) is at 36,2%, l'UMP (Union for Popular Movement) at 18,6% et le FN at 11,1% , according to the minister of the Intérieur.

Not really a victory, is it?

Never said it was a victory,I said she is making good progress or should I say the party is,its still patchy but its encouraging all the same.

Louis Aliot was their 2nd best chance behind Le Pen, and he lost. If that's encouraging then you can have it. Well done. Let's see some more encouraging results.

He's sulking and calling the elections corrupt now.

21H24 - "Banana Republic" - The grand hope of the FN, beaten in Perpignan, the second in command Louis Alliot attacked the 'Socialist-Popular' alliance as "anti-républicain". It is a political trick, France is electorally corrupt. We are in a Banana Republic.

Louis Aliot was their 2nd best chance behind Le Pen, and he lost. If that's encouraging then you can have it. Well done. Let's see some more encouraging results.

He's sulking and calling the elections corrupt now.

21H24 - "Banana Republic" - The grand hope of the FN, beaten in Perpignan, the second in command Louis Alliot attacked the 'Socialist-Popular' alliance as "anti-républicain". It is a political trick, France is electorally corrupt. We are in a Banana Republic.

they also got over 41% of the vote in one area and beat the socialists in their own back yard,its patchy but its getting there. hening beaumont I think.

Louis Aliot was their 2nd best chance behind Le Pen, and he lost. If that's encouraging then you can have it. Well done. Let's see some more encouraging results.

He's sulking and calling the elections corrupt now.

21H24 - "Banana Republic" - The grand hope of the FN, beaten in Perpignan, the second in command Louis Alliot attacked the 'Socialist-Popular' alliance as "anti-républicain". It is a political trick, France is electorally corrupt. We are in a Banana Republic.

What as that quote about a persons true character being shown in defeat!?

they also got over 41% of the vote in one area
The BNP do well in Burnley, it doesn't make them a credible force.

Le Pen seems as big a bigot as her father when I've seen her. Same racist bile put under a banner of nationalism.

Latest estimates - Le PS (Socialist Party) is at 36,2%, l'UMP (Union for Popular Movement) at 18,6% et le FN at 11,1% , according to the minister of the Intérieur.

Not really a victory, is it?

its a victory as in our bnp.........one year grab a couple of percent, next year lose it

The BNP do well in Burnley, it doesn't make them a credible force.

Le Pen seems as big a bigot as her father when I've seen her. Same racist bile put under a banner of nationalism.

I have already said its patchy but we will see wont we,she is well placed to beat sarkozy in the presidential elections unless of course the rest vote tactically like they always do when they feel threatened.banana republic isn't far off.

Maybe it will be a wake up call to the other mainstream parties in France.

When the first BNP councilor was elected in the UK Maggie Thatcher said "I can fully understand why as the mainstream parties are not addressing the voting publics fears".

Just because people vote for these partys it doesn't automaticly make them racist or fascist.

Just because people vote for these partys it doesn't automaticly make them racist or fascist.
It does when they have a history of making racist statements, like "France [the football team] has too many black players."

Its good to see the Front National doing very well,I have high hopes for the new leader she is far more electable than her father ever was,its all good.:)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/21/french-local-elections-sarkozy-pen

Yaeh, their isolationist policies would wreck the economy and split the country down the middle, leading to widespread strikes, and rioting as the FN unsuccessfully tried to stay in power by undermining the democratic procees. It wiould take the country at least a decade to recover.

Fortunately, it's not going to happen, becasue the majority of French people have an IQ higher than 70. The Fuhrer is dead. He died on fire in a ditch. Mussolini died upside down on a fence with his trousers round his head. It's very sad!

It does when they have a history of making racist statements, like "France [the football team] has too many black players."

That's like saying the few hundred who rioted in London yesterday were typical of the half million who didn't riot.

The race card is played out due to it being played to often.

Yaeh, their isolationist policies would wreck the economy and split the country down the middle, leading to widespread strikes, and rioting as the FN unsuccessfully tried to stay in power by undermining the democratic procees. It wiould take the country at least a decade to recover.

Fortunately, it's not going to happen, becasue the majority of French people have an IQ higher than 70. The Fuhrer is dead. He died on fire in a ditch. Mussolini died upside down on a fence with his trousers round his head. It's very sad!

Its got nothing whatsoever to do with Nazis or fascism and everything to do with preserving their national identity.

Its got nothing whatsoever to do with Nazis or fascism and everything to do with preserving their national identity.

If they really wanted to preserve their national identity it would be the cultural dominance of America they would be worried about rather than a few immigrants largely from old French colonies.

That's like saying the few hundred who rioted in London yesterday were typical of the half million who didn't riot.

The race card is played out due to it being played to often.

oh come on. if you make racist statements you get called racist.

Just because people vote for these partys it doesn't automaticly make them racist or fascist.
no, it makes them idiots

If they really wanted to preserve their national identity it would be the cultural dominance of America they would be worried about rather than a few immigrants largely from old French colonies.

Are you for real,France has the biggest immigrant population in the west of europe.it has more muslims than even Germany,I guess your another whose left wing liberal non patriotic views have blinded you to reality.

Are you for real,France has the biggest immigrant population in the west of europe.it has more muslims than even Germany,I guess your another whose left wing liberal non patriotic views have blinded you to reality.

Are there many muslims in Beighton steiner?

Are there many muslims in Beighton steiner?

Why dont you come and see for yourself.

Why dont you come and see for yourself.

So you do live in Beighton?

So you do live in Beighton?

Where I live is non of your business,and its not relevant to the topic you do seem to have a weird fixation about me,you might consider treatment for it.

Are there many muslims in Beighton steiner?

Why dont you come and see for yourself.

So you do live in Beighton?

Where I live is non of your business,and its not relevant to the topic you do seem to have a weird fixation about me,you might consider treatment for it.
lol

theres 1 or two asians i know, the corner shop for one just up from the health centre

lol

theres 1 or two asians i know, the corner shop for one just up from the health centre

lol he seems to have issues with beighton.:hihi:

Where I live is non of your business,and its not relevant to the topic you do seem to have a weird fixation about me,you might consider treatment for it.

No need to be nasty, you did ask me to come over and have a look after all.

Why dont you come and see for yourself.

No need to be nasty, you did ask me to come over and have a look after all.

lol im not BNP,you see you shouldnt make assumptions,and im not being nasty at all.just think you have a fixation for beighton.;)

Maybe it will be a wake up call to the other mainstream parties in France.

When the first BNP councilor was elected in the UK Maggie Thatcher said "I can fully understand why as the mainstream parties are not addressing the voting publics fears".

Just because people vote for these partys it doesn't automaticly make them racist or fascist.



What are you on about? The first BNP councillor was elected in Tower Hamlets
in 1993, 4 years after Milk Snatcher had got her cards. I can't remember her commenting on subsequent events in Tower Hamlets!

Are you for real,France has the biggest immigrant population in the west of europe.it has more muslims than even Germany,I guess your another whose left wing liberal non patriotic views have blinded you to reality.

Ermmm no it doesn't - at last census in France it had a 5.1% foreign population compared to 8% for Germany and has comparatively low immigration rates. It's obviously going to have comparatively higher levels of muslims as France had many middle eastern colonial territories. You do seem to have entirely missed the thrust of my post though. If the French (or indeed the English for that matter) were really worried about cultural identity they would be far more worried about American cultural influence which pretty much deluges every other country through it's media, publishing, TV, film and music industries rather than a relatively small number of immigrants. One is forced to ask the question "is it cos they is black"?

lol im not BNP,you see you shouldnt make assumptions,and im not being nasty at all.just think you have a fixation for beighton.;)

I've not mentioned anything about you in relation to the BNP. My uncle Cyril lives in Beighton, nice place, do you live there?

FN are a facsist, racist party. Just like the bee n pee, they got better at hiding it from the public and the underlying ideology has not changed one bit.

They will probably get some votes in places like Montpellier, but not nearly enough to take power. I know the area well. There are some disgruntled old gits who try to blame their own shortcomings on "outsiders" but the vast majority are reasonable people that get along well with each other.

Of course, if your only reference sources are far right biased, as those of the OP seem to be, then they will try and give the impression that their political take over is inmminent. It isn't. Not even close.

I've not mentioned anything about you in relation to the BNP. My uncle Cyril lives in Beighton, nice place, do you live there?

yes you did stan but you edited your post,why the lies ?

lol are you for real stan,by the way why do you use the invisible mode? as to where I live I already answerd that one.:)

FN are a facsist, racist party. Just like the bee n pee, they got better at hiding it from the public and the underlying ideology has not changed one bit.

They will probably get some votes in places like Montpellier, but not nearly enough to take power. I know the area well. There are some disgruntled old gits who try to blame their own shortcomings on "outsiders" but the vast majority are reasonable people that get along well with each other.

Of course, if your only reference sources are far right biased, as those of the OP seem to be, then they will try and give the impression that their political take over is inmminent. It isn't. Not even close.

oh I didnt realise the guardian was right wing.:loopy:

yes you did stan but you edited your post,why the lies ?

Which post did I edit?

Two victories, out of a desire to win a dozen. The communist party also won two, as far as I can make out. A great night for them? Hardly.

La Croix (http://www.la-croix.com/Cantonales--victoire-de-la-gauche-le-FN-creuse-son-sillon/article/2459823/4076)

Two Victories for the FN in Elections

The Front national have won two victories in the Canton Elections.In the canton of Carpentras-nord (Vaucluse, Southern France) where the candidate Patrick Bassot has won with 54,34% of the votes, facing the socialists. Also a victory in Brignoles (Var, Southern France), with Jean-Paul Dispard, the victor who was facing a communist.

In Marseille and Nice, the extreme-right party has failed to win in the four cantons where they had the greatest hope of victory.

oh come on. if you make racist statements you get called racist.It depends how you define racist. today the race card is played just as much as the "She's a witch" card was in the 1700s and in the 'Salem witch hunts' in the US.

The problem for the far-right in this country is that they are always umbilically linked to muppets like this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjuNuqIev8M


:hihi::loopy:

The problem for the far-right in this country is that they are always umbilically linked to muppets like this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjuNuqIev8M


:hihi::loopy:

You carry on believing that.

You carry on believing that.


..............and as if to prove my point!;)

It depends how you define racist. today the race card is played just as much as the "She's a witch" card was in the 1700s and in the 'Salem witch hunts' in the US.

The trouble Bass is that it's played equally gratuitously by both sides of the argument, to denounce someone making legitimate claims of racism on the basis of the 'race card being played' is as provocative as someone claiming all members of the BNP despise darkies ;)

Either way I expect miss le pen to do well in the presidential elections.:)

They have a history of popping up in France, but their representative system is different to here. It doesn't make them more formidable, just a little better organised than the BNP. They're still outside the mainstream of French politics.

If you say so. Chirac beat Le Pen when the people were urged to 'Vote for the crook not the Fascist'

The trouble Bass is that it's played equally gratuitously by both sides of the argument, to denounce someone making legitimate claims of racism on the basis of the 'race card being played' is as provocative as someone claiming all members of the BNP despise darkies ;)

As a former member and BNP organiser I can say that generally speaking I have always preferred 'darkies' to Establishment traitors one of the exceptions of course is when a 'darky' becomes an Establishment traitor. ;)

Its good to see the Front National doing very well,I have high hopes for the new leader she is far more electable than her father ever was,its all good.:)I am French, and will only say that you either lack any capacity for critical thought processes, or your moral convictions are repulsive. Naturally, that doesn't exclude a combination of both.

Feel free to report this post.

I am French, and will only say that you either lack any capacity for critical thought processes, or your moral convictions are repulsive. Naturally, that doesn't exclude a combination of both.

Feel free to report this post.

Why would anyone want to report your post ? You are entitled to your opinion.
You don't claim to speak for the whole of France do you?
The soundness of your own critical thought processes and moral convictions is of course arguable.

Why would anyone want to report your post ? You are entitled to your opinion.Because 'steiner' may be offended by it and is entitled to report it (per Forum rules).
You don't claim to speak for the whole of France do you?No, have I? This detail is for giving a context, you make of it what you will.
The soundness of your own critical thought processes and moral convictions is of course arguable.And you extrapolated all that from my single, one-line 'statement' post? Well done you :thumbsup:

Chirac beat Le Pen when the people were urged to 'Vote for the crook not the Fascist'
Of course they did. When the socialists were knocked out they had a choice of voting right or far-right. Taking the PS, Communists, Worker's Party and the Greens as anti-fascist, the FN had to rely on a mass of centre ground. The FN increased their vote by under 1% in the second round. Chirac had the biggest landslide in the history of French politics. That shows you the value of Le Pen.

The FN can't even win regional canton votes in Marseilles and Nice, like Steiner was hoping for. I don't see why he has great hope for the Presidential elections.

I am French, and will only say that you either lack any capacity for critical thought processes, or your moral convictions are repulsive. Naturally, that doesn't exclude a combination of both.

Feel free to report this post.

Why would I report this post? you are entitled to your opinion you see those of us on the so called far right are far far more tolerant than the far left who you can be sure would report people at the drop of a hat.have a good day.;)

It depends how you define racist. today the race card is played just as much as the "She's a witch" card was in the 1700s and in the 'Salem witch hunts' in the US.

Are you losing the debate? (http://dickiebo.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/racist.jpg)

Are you losing the debate? (http://dickiebo.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/racist.jpg)

How childish,shouldnt you be at school.;)

you see those of us on the so called far right are far far more tolerant than the far left who you can be sure would report people at the drop of a hatMmm, yes, one side of my family has direct experience of this 'tolerance'.

Stay here and be naturalised German (...be immediately incorporated into the Whermacht, be very shortly sent to the Russian front, do no go by 'Start', do not collect $200)

or

Be escorted under arms on that 3-day cattle-wagon train journey to 'Free France' (south of the demarcation line), dispossed of all but one suitcase's worth of worldly goods (which exclude cash/valuables) and become, to all intents and purposes, a penniless refugee. So home, land, furniture, etc. abandoned to the occupier.

You have 1 hour to decide (and to be on the bus to the train station, if you don't want to become German).

At least my family was lucky. It was only expulsion, not deportation. For about 65 years now, our family dogs have been eating from the same swastika-emblazoned porcelain (all that was left about, when they eventually returned), just to remind us about this 'tolerance' by the far right :thumbsup:

The other side of the family has moved countries with every generation for the last 100 years or so, so we're very well acquainted with the habital level of 'tolerance' reserved by the far right to economical migrants across the ages, 'ta very much ;)

The trouble Bass is that it's played equally gratuitously by both sides of the argument, to denounce someone making legitimate claims of racism on the basis of the 'race card being played' is as provocative as someone claiming all members of the BNP despise darkies ;)
Hi there BF, long time no hear. how are you keeping?

Hi there BF, long time no hear. how are you keeping?

All good here Bass, hp yr well too fella :)

All good here Bass, hp yr well too fella :)Glad you're back I was getting worried.

you see those of us on the so called far right are far far more tolerant than the far left

bwahahaha good one

..............and as if to prove my point!;)

What have you proved other than scaremongers can produce a fake video claiming to interview a lefty whose actualy a typical duped lefty who was probably a banjo strumming extra from the film 'Deliverence'.

Mmm, yes, one side of my family has direct experience of this 'tolerance'.

Stay here and be naturalised German (...be immediately incorporated into the Whermacht, be very shortly sent to the Russian front, do no go by 'Start', do not collect $200)

or

Be escorted under arms on that 3-day cattle-wagon train journey to 'Free France' (south of the demarcation line), dispossed of all but one suitcase's worth of worldly goods (which exclude cash/valuables) and become, to all intents and purposes, a penniless refugee. So home, land, furniture, etc. abandoned to the occupier.

You have 1 hour to decide (and to be on the bus to the train station, if you don't want to become German).

At least my family was lucky. It was only expulsion, not deportation. For about 65 years now, our family dogs have been eating from the same swastika-emblazoned porcelain (all that was left about, when they eventually returned), just to remind us about this 'tolerance' by the far right :thumbsup:

The other side of the family has moved countries with every generation for the last 100 years or so, so we're very well acquainted with the habital level of 'tolerance' reserved by the far right to economical migrants across the ages, 'ta very much ;)How do we get round the fact that there are people on here who claim to sympathise with victims of Germany's far right but are happy to support the British version of the far right?

What have you proved other than scaremongers can produce a fake video claiming to interview a lefty whose actualy a typical duped lefty who was probably a banjo strumming extra from the film 'Deliverence'.It may be many things and one can see why you would wish it was all of those other things but fake it aint;)

It may be many things and one can see why you would wish it was all of those other things but fake it aint;)

Any Binhead lefty scaremongering organisation could have made that video, it proves nothing.

How do we get round the fact that there are people on here who claim to sympathise with victims of Germany's far right but are happy to support the British version of the far right?

The problem is you've got it all wrong, there is nothing wrong with the people who have the foresight to see what is happening to this country and if they don't like it they've a right to say so.

The problem is you've got it all wrong, there is nothing wrong with the people who have the foresight to see what is happening to this country and if they don't like it they've a right to say so.
Of course, and everyone else has the right to tell them why their opinions are wrong.

France has just told Ms Le Pen where she can take her views.

Of course, and everyone else has the right to tell them why their opinions are wrong

My bold, not everyone just the witchfinder race card players.

Interesting artice here,so its certainly not all doom and gloom as some would have you beleive.;)

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/le-pen-now-right-in-the-mainstream/story-e6frg6ux-1226030312449

So the the seats it contested it got over 40% of the vote,thats quite impressive isnt it.

it's too late( in most of the 'big' developed countries) for any party to make any real lasting progress on a platform of ultra-nationalism. the best most can do is, maybe, to control immigration more than is currently being done, but some numb nut policies of some of these far right parties missed the boat by decades.

in, i think, 20 years or so the only real difference between the right and left will be economic and environmental policies. this nationalism thing is on it's last legs. any party that uses that as it's main platform is doomed to staying on the fringes.

Interesting artice here,so its ceetainly not all doom and gloom as some would have you beleive.;)

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/le-pen-now-right-in-the-mainstream/story-e6frg6ux-1226030312449

So the the seats it contested it got over 40% of the vote,thats quite impressive isnt it.
I recall we had similar pronouncements from the hopeful right wingers when the BNP was contesting elections here. The reading into the situation is guesswork and power is still an illusive dream for the right wing here and in France.

Interesting artice here,so its ceetainly not all doom and gloom as some would have you beleive.;)

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/le-pen-now-right-in-the-mainstream/story-e6frg6ux-1226030312449

So the the seats it contested it got over 40% of the vote,thats quite impressive isnt it.

I'm interested in converting to the Nationalist cause. What are the benefits of a Nationalist ideology? If I choose to vote for a Nationalist paty next time, what changes in society can I expect to see?

it's too late( in most of the 'big' developed countries) for any party to make any real lasting progress on a platform of ultra-nationalism. the best most can do is, maybe, to control immigration more than is currently being done, but some numb nut policies of some of these far right parties missed the boat by decades.

in, i think, 20 years or so the only real difference between the right and left will be economic and environmental policies. this nationalism thing is on it's last legs. any party that uses that as it's main platform is doomed to staying on the fringes.Spot on, for the right wing or even the left wing or even the ultra religious parties to succeed you need the population to be fairly docile, and although it may have been the case in the past it certainly isn't now. Twitter, FB and fora such as this have contributed to see to it that the demise of any one sector is permanent.

I'm interested in converting to the Nationalist cause. What are the benefits of a Nationalist ideology? If I choose to vote for a Nationalist paty next time, what changes in society can I expect to see? errr no blacks, errr no blacks, errr no blacks, errr no blacks, nothing else:D

Oh yeah and err every last one of them must go!!

http://www.theaustralian.com.au
Could you find a newspaper any further away? :)

I said it in my very first post, but the FN are a little more organised, and Marine Le Pen is a lot more media friendly than her father and our BNP leaders combined, but they are still a overtly-nationalist party. What makes you think she'll be a Presidential threat? It could be possible, but she'd have to swing a hell of a lot of the UMP voters over to her to do so.

errr no blacks, errr no blacks, errr no blacks, errr no blacks, nothing else:D

Oh yeah and err every last one of them must go!!

That's proper rubbish - is that it? Note to any right wing and proud people out there - if you can think of a better reason than the frankly <REMOVED>-poor notion of 'no blacks' please, let me know.

Spot on, for the right wing or even the left wing or even the ultra religious parties to succeed you need the population to be fairly docile, and although it may have been the case in the past it certainly isn't now. Twitter, FB and fora such as this have contributed to see to it that the demise of any one sector is permanent.

the world is just too small now for any real nationalism to
1-be packaged in way that appeals enough to the population to work
2-to be of any benefit to any country that that has such a government in power.

the human rights issues-i know this is almost a swear word to some- alone would tie you up in knots before you even swore your government in.

i'd just love to see what the economic policies would be like- we don't want you and people who look like you in our country, but would you be interested in buying this or that from us? could we buy that from you?

if Hitler ever did anything 'positive' for the world it's that he made nationalism so unpalatable that it'll never recover. by the time it does we'll all be one race and from everywhere.

errr no blacks, errr no blacks, errr no blacks, errr no blacks, nothing else:D

Oh yeah and err every last one of them must go!!

i'm mostly black. but i have a white birthmark on my shoulder. can i say?

Spot on, for the right wing or even the left wing or even the ultra religious parties to succeed you need the population to be fairly docile, and although it may have been the case in the past it certainly isn't now. Twitter, FB and fora such as this have contributed to see to it that the demise of any one sector is permanent.

Docile suggests stupid, unable to process information and understand. I've said before, it's a rather simplistic assumption and not entirely accurate.

Docile suggests stupid, unable to process information and understand. I've said before, it's a rather simplistic assumption and not entirely accurate.

i would say any extreme ism, -ology or dogma does require a certain docility on the part of the majority. that, or a ruthless junta in power.

How do we get round the fact that there are people on here who claim to sympathise with victims of Germany's far right but are happy to support the British version of the far right?I don't know. How do you make people intelligent? :huh: (:D)
I'm interested in converting to the Nationalist cause. What are the benefits of a Nationalist ideology? If I choose to vote for a Nationalist paty next time, what changes in society can I expect to see?According to the FN's current economic agenda, immediate breakaway from the EU and North Korea-grade protectionism (deadly serious and true, francophiles feel free to apply for an authoritative linky...but in in French language). As worthy a policy as INTERVIEWER's herein, I guess :hihi:

In fairness, the FN in its current guise is nearly breaking away from the far right (as such) and entering the realm of populism...nearly :hihi:

I don't know. How do you make people intelligent? :huh: (:D)
According to the FN's economic agenda, immediate breakaway from the EU and North Korea-grade protectionism :D (this is true, francophiles feel free to apply for an authoritative linky...but in in French language)

we'll gladly take french refugees in Africa, we them one.

According to the FN's economic agenda, immediate breakaway from the EU and North Korea-grade protectionism
... and they'd have to take the Constitution apart to push any race measures through, and reinstate the franc as currency.

Docile suggests stupid, unable to process information and understand. I've said before, it's a rather simplistic assumption and not entirely accurate.Docile indeed means stupid and that just about sums up the supporters of any extremist ideology. If they were able to make distinctions then most wouldn't lend support without analytical consideration.

Docile indeed means stupid and that just about sums up the supporters of any extremist ideology. If they were able to make distinctions then most wouldn't lend support without analytical consideration.

Supporters of extreme ideology are often well educated, graduates and undergraduates.

... and they'd have to take the Constitution apart to push any race measures through, and reinstate the franc as currency.Unfortunately not. Vichy taught them that much: where there's a will, there is a way.

Supporters of extreme ideology are often well educated, graduates and undergraduates.Oh please, just because one loony professor joins the BNP that doesn't make it often, it makes it a rarity.

]I'm interested in converting to the Nationalist cause.[] What are the benefits of a Nationalist ideology? If I choose to vote for a Nationalist paty next time, what changes in society can I expect to see?

of course you are.:)

Oh please, just because one loony professor joins the BNP that doesn't make it often, it makes it a rarity.

A Professor is exceptional, but not all Graduates are Professors.
Support also crosses professions.

A Professor is exceptional, but not all Graduates are Professors.
Support also crosses professions.Generally the supporters are of the easily lead gullible types that are usually taken advantage of by religious extremists or the likes of EDL with brain boxes like the idiot claiming Muzlamic infidels are trying to establish Iraqi law in London;)

i'm mostly black. but i have a white birthmark on my shoulder. can i say?We shall have to put your case to the one eyed fat controller for special dispensation, but we may have to emulsion the rest of you to match.
:D

Generally the supporters are of the easily lead gullible types that are usually taken advantage of by religious extremists or the likes of EDL with brain boxes like the idiot claiming Muzlamic infidels are trying to establish Iraqi law in London;)

Lol, Muzlamic Ray Gun!

Lol, Muzlamic Ray Gun! That is a classic already and there is a T shirt on the market already with Muzlamic Infidel written across it, the guy is an inadvertent hero.:hihi:

http://www.redbubble.com/products/configure/6947889-t-shirt

We shall have to put your case to the one eyed fat controller for special dispensation, but we may have to emulsion the rest of you to match.
:D

i await your verdict, sir.

Supporters of extreme ideology are often well educated, graduates and undergraduates.

education does not equate common sense, nor does it negate stupidity. our many students in this fair city prove that everyday.

which extreme ideology would you say is workable?

i await your verdict, sir.Don't call us we'll call on you:hihi:

I'm interested in converting to the Nationalist cause. What are the benefits of a Nationalist ideology? If I choose to vote for a Nationalist paty next time, what changes in society can I expect to see?If you have to ask then there is no point in voting.

education does not equate common sense, nor does it negate stupidity. our many students in this fair city prove that everyday.

Very true.


which extreme ideology would you say is workable?

Not many, if any.

Very true.



Not many, if any.

can't think of a single one. even the 'mild' mainstream ones seem to be merging into one as we try to find an ideology that actually works. that's why more and more parties are starting to look and sound like each other. center-this, center-that. that's where we're heading.

Generally the supporters are of the easily lead gullible types that are usually taken advantage of by religious extremists or the likes of EDL with brain boxes like the idiot claiming Muzlamic infidels are trying to establish Iraqi law in London;)
Do you realy believe that was a genuine interview or do you also believe that the moon is made of green cheese.

Do you realy believe that was a genuine interview
With no evidence either way it's a moot point. Feel free to dismiss it, but if you can't prove it is fake then believing it is real is as silly or wise as believing it is fake.

can't think of a single one. even the 'mild' mainstream ones seem to be merging into one as we try to find an ideology that actually works. that's why more and more parties are starting to look and sound like each other. center-this, center-that. that's where we're heading.

I think, many are trying to be all things to all people. It's not possible, and any ideology from left to right, liberal to extreme, will never please everybody.

I think, many are trying to be all things to all people. It's not possible, and any ideology from left to right, liberal to extreme, will never please everybody.

true, true. which is why the nearer you get to the center the more likely you are to get the most votes. you won't please everyone but you'll displease the least people. well, at least you'll be more more palatable to the most people.
it's a strategy that seems to be working.

Do you realy believe that was a genuine interview or do you also believe that the moon is made of green cheese.


I suppose you're going to tell us why you think it's a fake? Is it because you think no one can be that ignorant or thick?

Do you realy believe that was a genuine interview or do you also believe that the moon is made of green cheese.Why have you got such a complex about that interview, have you never heard such incoherent people spouting almost exactly that garbage? I believe the interview to be true as it was aired by an internationally recognised news broadcaster(Press TV). It isn't some kid with a mobile phone and doing it for laughs. What evidence have you to suggest it is a fake other than being an embarrassment?

I understand the same team filmed another brain box complaining that if they are building Mosques in Britain the we should have a right to build Mosques in Mecca. Do you think that was a fake too?

Why have you got such a complex about that interview, have you never heard such incoherent people spouting almost exactly that garbage? I believe the interview to be true as it was aired by an internationally recognised news broadcaster(Press TV). It isn't some kid with a mobile phone and doing it for laughs. What evidence have you to suggest it is a fake other than being an embarrassment?

internationally recognised news broadcaster(Press TV) propaganda machine of the Iranian dictatorship.

I believe it was true enough, but Press TV certainly have an interest in finding the thickest one they could.

internationally recognised news broadcaster(Press TV) propaganda machine of the Iranian dictatorship.

I believe it was true enough, but Press TV certainly have an interest in finding the thickest one they could.

No shortage of that type after a few drinks :lol:
I agree Press TV has it's agenda but that doesn't make it a fake though as the other poster keeps repeating. The video has reached epic status and describes the mentality of the EDL quite well. That said the News channel still is an international player on the scene and perhaps only reflects the output of Fox TV.

I agree Press TV has it's agenda but that doesn't make it a fake though as the other poster keeps repeating. The video has reached epic status and describes the mentality of the EDL quite well. That said the News channel still is an international player on the scene and perhaps only reflects the output of Fox TV.
Still doeasn't make it genuine unless he was picked out specialy by reporters and agency with an agenda.

Still doeasn't make it genuine unless he was picked out specialy by reporters and agency with an agenda.So what colour cheese is the moon made out of:D

Are you for real,France has the biggest immigrant population in the west of europe.

Isn't it also the biggest country in Europe ?
It's not like they are short of space.

Isn't it also the biggest country in Europe ?
It's not like they are short of space.Not only that, they think the British are foreigners too:confused:........:D

Ultimatum for edl spokesman

31 march 2011
representatives of the sikh community have spoken out against a sikh member of the english defence league who they say is misrepresenting the faith.

Sikhs against the edl say they’re sick of edl spokesman guramit singh, misusing sikh symbols during marches.

They have issued an ultimatum against him urging him to publically denounce the edl before vaisakhi or they will apply to have him permanently expelled from the sikh faith. (http://www.sunriseradio.com/news/?id=6292)They've probably seen that video :lol:

As manufacturing moved to the far east over the last 30 years, the tiger economies emerged which has reduced the feasibility of western manufacturing except maybe for specialised goods and services. This has lead to a dissatisfaction of western social culture and, of course, the easy target is the immigrant so it's not suprising the political right wing thuggish parties are on the march and growing in number. After the nazis, I'm surprised such political parties haven't be clamped down but maybe thuggery is what the average The Sun reader wants.

As manufacturing moved to the far east over the last 30 years, the tiger economies emerged which has reduced the feasibility of western manufacturing except maybe for specialised goods and services. This has lead to a dissatisfaction of western social culture and, of course, the easy target is the immigrant so it's not suprising the political right wing thuggish parties are on the march and growing in number. After the nazis, I'm surprised such political parties haven't be clamped down but maybe thuggery is what the average The Sun reader wants.

Why are you trying to link The Sun readers to supporting extremists? Is it because they're not a Labour paper anymore (for now)?

Why are you trying to link The Sun readers to supporting extremists? Is it because they're not a Labour paper anymore (for now)?It seems it's the old Bush'ite principle of either you are with us or with the terrorists:)

As manufacturing moved to the far east over the last 30 years, the tiger economies emerged which has reduced the feasibility of western manufacturing except maybe for specialised goods and services. This has lead to a dissatisfaction of western social culture and, of course, the easy target is the immigrant so it's not suprising the political right wing thuggish parties are on the march and growing in number. After the nazis, I'm surprised such political parties haven't be clamped down but maybe thuggery is what the average The Sun reader wants.
The immigrant was brought here by the Tories to provide cheap labour as an alternative to updating antiquated obsolete plant an machinery.
This period was followed by labour realising that they'd got a ready made bunch of voters in the immigrants brought in by the tories.
The tories then had the cheek to chant "If you want a <REMOVED> for your neighbour vote labour".
The real truth is that nobody was asked if they wanted this mass immigration and very few on here are old enough to know why it took place.
If the Front National gain ground in France maybe it will spur on people here especialy if a new fairer voting system came into place in this country.

The immigrant
Singular? :)

as an alternative to updating antiquated obsolete plant an machinery
In what industry? What industry went:

A: These machines look a bit old.
B: Yeah, .... well ... we could buy some more.
A: Bit expensive though, innit?
B: Then we could .... get some Jamaicans in.
A: Yeah, that'll solve it.