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starmag
29-11-2005, 13:00
i went to buy a sandwich last week, and parked (admittedly) with my front tyres on the zig zag infront of a Ped Crosssing (about 10 yards from the zebra lines). When I came out, there was a cop car waiting for me, who made me sit in the back of the car, gave me a £60 fine, a producer and 3 points on my licence. While I was in the car, there was reports through the radio of someone threatening their wife with a gun and all the cars in the area were called....2 cars sped past us, and the cops in my car just sat there with me for half an hour....I'm not excusing my actions, but there were loads of cars parked on double yellows, in the bus lane and some parked WAY closer to the crossing than me......Do they not have anything better to do with their time than waste mine? has anyone else had this happen to them? and does it p*ss anyone else of as much as it does me?
so please, people, be careful when you're out there....there's police about...unless you are trying to shoot someone, of course.

scottf
29-11-2005, 13:03
im sure you can appeal anything like that- unless you were blocking access for something or endangering the public i would say you stand a pretty good chance of just getting a fine after an appeal!!

Internetowl
29-11-2005, 13:04
you got caught - petty or not , there is a very good reason why the 'zig zag' lines are there whether it inconveniences you or not.

I suggest you don't pay the fine and have your day in court and watch the fine go up and penalty stiffen.

max
29-11-2005, 13:07
So you want our unarmed traffic police to respond to a domestic situation with possibly firearms involved?

Shame on you. :nono:

BoroughGal
29-11-2005, 13:07
You don't send unarmed traffic officers to a firearms incident, anyway, that'd just be silly and dangerous.

EDIT: Great minds thinking alike, Max, and all that.... :)

jenbop
29-11-2005, 13:09
oh dear, 3 points for bad parking, poor bloke, thats quite harsh! they should have just given you a warning, i mean its not exactly crime of the century is it!

kirky
29-11-2005, 13:11
while old bill were sat in the nice warm car with you they wernt able to help out their mates who were in a real situation....its a lot safer picking on motorists

tazman
29-11-2005, 13:15
Bottom line is if your £60 fine makes you park more responsibly in the future and saves the life of a young kid who could have gone out on the crossing and got knocked down having been masked by your illegally parked vehicle then it will be worth the cost wont it. ??

I know we are talking what if's and if only's here, but the zig zags are there for a reason.

However in support of your complaint, I find it strange that if there were 2 officers, that one didn't go and deal with some of the other vehicles that as you say were nearer to the crossing and also on the zig zag markings.
This would have shown them to be fairer to your situation

The other problem you may have is if the vehicle had video fitted then your vehicle will be clearly shown to be within the zig zag area.

hade
29-11-2005, 13:19
I got run over on a crossing because an idiot like you parked in front of it and the car coming couldn't see I was half way across until it was too late. You lazy ****, just find a safe place to park and walk an extra 30 seconds.

irenewilde
29-11-2005, 13:24
Originally posted by kirky
while old bill were sat in the nice warm car with you they wernt able to help out their mates who were in a real situation....its a lot safer picking on motorists

Oh for god's sake....some people never miss the opportunity to have a pop do they? Let's hope you never get run over by someone who can't see you because some lazy sod can't walk an extra couple of hundred yards to buy a sandwich.

kirky
29-11-2005, 13:25
Originally posted by hade
I got run over on a crossing because an idiot like you parked in front of it and the car coming couldn't see I was half way across until it was too late. You lazy ****, just find a safe place to park and walk an extra 30 seconds.

are your eyes painted on?

beansfeast
29-11-2005, 13:28
Sorry to say it simple serves you right. I purposely go out of my way to park safely and legally, even if it means a longer walk to wherever I happen to be going.

Perhaps you'll learn from your lesson and park properly in future - there's too many idiots on the roads making 'minor infringements' and putting other peoples lives in danger as it is!

As for the police, 2 cars sped past you. Why do think it would be necessary to send half the SY police force to one call? Perhaps you think they should have let you off because YOU thought they were too busy! :rant:

RazorSHarp
29-11-2005, 13:34
Pay the fine and stop making excuses, you shouldn't have parked there and you got caught.

By the way try telling the relatives of the WPC that got shot last week that she wasn't doing her job properly. The UK bobbies are the best in the world !!

jenbop
29-11-2005, 13:35
ok people, i think he might have learnt his lesson now...

kirky
29-11-2005, 13:36
Originally posted by Briano


As for the police, 2 cars sped past you. Why do think it would be necessary to send half the SY police force to one call?

thats exactly what they did saturday night/sunday morning.........(niche) i wonder how much that cost then:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

beansfeast
29-11-2005, 13:44
Originally posted by kirky
thats exactly what they did saturday night/sunday morning.........(niche) i wonder how much that cost then:rolleyes: :rolleyes:


Slightly different circumstances don't you think! And at that time of night what else could possibly going on?

Now you can stop stirring Kirky ;)

kirky
29-11-2005, 13:48
Originally posted by Briano
Slightly different circumstances don't you think! And at that time of night what else could possibly going on?

Now you can stop stirring Kirky ;)

yeajh but its my hobby:D :D :D ok then i'll stop and move onto another thread:)

HomeJames
29-11-2005, 14:41
'you got caught - petty or not , there is a very good reason why the 'zig zag' lines are there whether it inconveniences you or not.'

In that case why don't they Police burngreave road for illegal parking? The amount of times I drive past Spital Hill and see cars parked on double yellows/zigzags is astounding yet the authorities r too dam scared to have traffic wardens to put tickets on those cars.

;)

RazorSHarp
29-11-2005, 15:33
Originally posted by HomeJames


In that case why don't they Police burngreave road for illegal parking? The amount of times I drive past Spital Hill and see cars parked on double yellows/zigzags is astounding yet the authorities r too dam scared to have traffic wardens to put tickets on those cars.

;)

I don't think a traffic warden can dish out penalty points with their parking fines, but I would imagine the reason being that the traffic wardens are reluctant to enter spittal hill with a book of parking vouchers is exaclty as you have said, they are probably worried about violant behaviour

biggsy
29-11-2005, 15:48
hi
i used to go to work via the wicker arches at 5.15 am but there ended up being so many taxis parked up in the road all with their windows down,chatting that i ended up changing my route,i'll bet none of those drivers got tickets or points on their licences:(

btw,when cars approched the taxis,they would finish their conversation before they moved,i felt like fixing five feet of railway line to the front of my car and just not stopping:thumbsup:

regards,john.

willman
29-11-2005, 15:54
Originally posted by scottf
im sure you can appeal anything like that- unless you were blocking access for something or endangering the public i would say you stand a pretty good chance of just getting a fine after an appeal!!

no he wont it is a more "dangerous" offence to park on zig zag lines than it is to park on double yellows. so the penalty will have to be higher i,m afraid.

kirky
29-11-2005, 15:54
Originally posted by HomeJames
'you got caught - petty or not , there is a very good reason why the 'zig zag' lines are there whether it inconveniences you or not.'

In that case why don't they Police burngreave road for illegal parking? The amount of times I drive past Spital Hill and see cars parked on double yellows/zigzags is astounding yet the authorities r too dam scared to have traffic wardens to put tickets on those cars.

;)

my mum and a member of this forum did just that yesterday....they managed to clear the bus lane and yellow lines without issuing a single ticket and everyone was nice as pie with them.....its all about talking to people properly....giving respect earns respect:)

Dug
29-11-2005, 16:06
Originally posted by starmag
i went to buy a sandwich last week, and parked (admittedly) with my front tyres on the zig zag infront of a Ped Crosssing (about 10 yards from the zebra lines). When I came out, there was a cop car waiting for me, who made me sit in the back of the car, gave me a £60 fine, a producer and 3 points on my licence. While I was in the car, there was reports through the radio of someone threatening their wife with a gun and all the cars in the area were called....2 cars sped past us, and the cops in my car just sat there with me for half an hour....I'm not excusing my actions, but there were loads of cars parked on double yellows, in the bus lane and some parked WAY closer to the crossing than me......Do they not have anything better to do with their time than waste mine? has anyone else had this happen to them? and does it p*ss anyone else of as much as it does me?
so please, people, be careful when you're out there....there's police about...unless you are trying to shoot someone, of course.

It happened to me last year. Yeah, ok I was cheesed off with the fine, but I can't really complain as I shouldn't have been parked on zig-zags lines and it was pure laziness.

muddycoffee
29-11-2005, 16:21
The police have always come down like a ton of bricks on anyone parking on the zig zag lines. They are there for this very reason to protect the crossing area from poor visibility. I knew a van driver who got caught exactly the same about 12 years ago.

Please take more responsibility and stop complaining about traffic police. Doing their work to prevent acccidents and injuries.

I am looking forward to the day when they jump on everyone who parks in the bus stop outide blockbuster video, woodseats. This selfish parking prevents busses from pulling in and causes inconvenice to hundreds of people every day. As the main road remains completely blocked as people get on and off the bus.

I once mentioned this to a couple who had brazenly parked in the bus stop while I was waiting for the bus and the bloke bit my head off. Telling me about how poorley he was. People are so selfish never thinking about the danger and inconveniece they are causing to everyone else. :rant:

misterm
29-11-2005, 18:31
Originally posted by Internetowl
you got caught - petty or not , there is a very good reason why the 'zig zag' lines are there whether it inconveniences you or not.

I suggest you don't pay the fine and have your day in court and watch the fine go up and penalty stiffen.

Whilst I agree here, I think th punishment on Starmag is a little excessive.
When did points for parking on lines come into force - i've never heard of it before.
Fines,clamping, removal of vehicle yes but not points - they're for bad driving and having a defective vehicle on the highway.

Personally I would do a bit more research before deciding what to do next.

The_Bear
29-11-2005, 20:39
While I was in the car, there was reports through the radio of someone threatening their wife with a gun and all the cars in the area were called....2 cars sped past us, and the cops in my car just sat there with me for half an hour

Perhaps if you hadnt commited this trafic offence then the officers would have been able to concentrate on more serious offences, or assist their colleagues.

They cant ignore all minor offences in the hope that a bigger offence might occurr.

If someone parked inconsiderately outside your driveway, I bet you would be on the phone to the police straight away, and then moaning when they couldnt attend because they were dealing with some other dumb motorist.

If your attitude on the day towards the officers was good then they might have given you a warning instead??

burny
29-11-2005, 21:59
Did he have a camera in the car? If so make the ****** prove that you were parked in the way of something!!!

ptigga
30-11-2005, 00:08
Originally posted by starmag
i went to buy a sandwich last week, and parked (admittedly) with my front tyres on the zig zag infront of a Ped Crosssing


Good to see the police doing their job then, maybe you'll take more notice of the zigzag lines next time you park.

Volvo_Man
30-11-2005, 00:38
Originally posted by tazman
Bottom line is if your £60 fine makes you park more responsibly in the future and saves the life of a young kid who could have gone out on the crossing and got knocked down having been masked by your illegally parked vehicle then it will be worth the cost wont it. ??

I know we are talking what if's and if only's here, but the zig zags are there for a reason.

However in support of your complaint, I find it strange that if there were 2 officers, that one didn't go and deal with some of the other vehicles that as you say were nearer to the crossing and also on the zig zag markings.
This would have shown them to be fairer to your situation

The other problem you may have is if the vehicle had video fitted then your vehicle will be clearly shown to be within the zig zag area.

Most cars are peugeot and they are not Volvo T5 Traffic and as such they do not have cameras as standard.

Peugeot + Ford Modeo are non camera'ed - Volvos are - Land rover I don't know.

Hope this helps.

Volvo_Man
30-11-2005, 00:41
Originally posted by tazman
Bottom line is if your £60 fine makes you park more responsibly in the future and saves the life of a young kid who could have gone out on the crossing and got knocked down having been masked by your illegally parked vehicle then it will be worth the cost wont it. ??

I know we are talking what if's and if only's here, but the zig zags are there for a reason.

However in support of your complaint, I find it strange that if there were 2 officers, that one didn't go and deal with some of the other vehicles that as you say were nearer to the crossing and also on the zig zag markings.
This would have shown them to be fairer to your situation

The other problem you may have is if the vehicle had video fitted then your vehicle will be clearly shown to be within the zig zag area.

Anyways I thought parking was sold/something to the Sheffield Council hence the council vans with their amber lights on their roof...

redrobbo
30-11-2005, 01:22
Originally posted by starmag
i went to buy a sandwich last week, and parked (admittedly) with my front tyres on the zig zag infront of a Ped Crossing (about 10 yards from the zebra lines).

"(admittedly)" eh? Even though I suppose it's a bit difficult to disguise parking on the zig-zags, well done starmag, for admitting to this serious parking offence.

Oh.... there's more you want to tell us.....

Originally posted by starmag

When I came out, there was a cop car waiting for me, who made me sit in the back of the car, gave me a £60 fine, a producer and 3 points on my licence.

...Yep, that sounds like a diligent police officer doing his duty. They are keeping the city streets safe from drivers who think they have a right to park on zig-zags, even when it is only to buy a sandwich.

....oh still more to tell us I see.....
Originally posted by starmag

While I was in the car, there was reports through the radio of someone threatening their wife with a gun and all the cars in the area were called....2 cars sped past us, and the cops in my car just sat there with me for half an hour

No. Not "all the cars in the area were called". Not to a gun threat starmag. Tactical armed officers would have responded.

And half an hour to write out some little bits of paper? Sure you're not just exaggerating a teeny-weeny little bit starmag?

Originally posted by starmag


....I'm not excusing my actions, but there were loads of cars parked on double yellows, in the bus lane and some parked WAY closer to the crossing than me

So pleased you're not excusing your own actions. It's good to know how consistent you are in admitting your own stupidity.

Maybe you didn't see the police officer booking the other offenders parked on the crossing - presumably you went home, or maybe back to work, with your sandwich, and didn't hang around to find out?

Originally posted by starmag

......Do they not have anything better to do with their time than waste mine?

Oh starmag! I'm shocked! You've just admitted your stupidity twice over, and said you weren't excusing your actions - but now you think being booked for a serious parking offence was nothing more than wasting your time. It seems you think we shouldn't be employing the police to keep our streets safe from inconsiderate, stupid drivers who park on zig-zags as if they own the road, and who clearly think that road markings don't apply to them - regardless of the hazard they are causing to pedestrians who want to cross the road safely. Not just you it seems, but "some parked WAY closer to the crossing than me".

Originally posted by starmag

has anyone else had this happen to them? and does it p*ss anyone else of as much as it does me?

Nope. I haven't seen anyone else admitting to such stupidity. And fancy you getting a little emotional at a £60 quid fixed fine and 3 penalty points! You know, starmag, I'm beginning to suspect if you are genuinely remorseful and have learned your lesson? Maybe I should drop my MP a note recommending a doubling of the fine and the penalty points for such stupid actions.

Originally posted by starmag

so please, people, be careful when you're out there....there's police about...unless you are trying to shoot someone, of course.

Hey starmag, that's a spectacular case of instant memory loss you've got there. Didn't you just tell us that "all the cars in the area were called....2 cars sped past us"?

But thanks for the timely reminder that the police are about. It's so reassuring to hear that they are actively protecting our citizens from stupid car drivers and dangerous, illegal parking.

Just 2 little niggles in my mind. You're not stupid enough to ignore your own advice are you? And, well, do forgive me asking this rather personal question.....especially as it is a whole week later and you're still fuming I see, but it wasn't by any chance a prawn sandwich was it? :hihi:

cloud
30-11-2005, 08:49
Originally posted by misterm
Whilst I agree here, I think th punishment on Starmag is a little excessive.
When did points for parking on lines come into force - i've never heard of it before.
Fines,clamping, removal of vehicle yes but not points - they're for bad driving and having a defective vehicle on the highway.

Personally I would do a bit more research before deciding what to do next.

parking on zig zag lines, usually found at pedestrian crossings and outside schools is an endorsable offence...£60 and 3 penalty points. Other parking offences are non- endorsable. The penalty is higher because of the danger which comes by restricting the view of both pedestrian and approaching motorists.

HomeJames
30-11-2005, 09:33
'my mum and a member of this forum did just that yesterday....they managed to clear the bus lane and yellow lines without issuing a single ticket and everyone was nice as pie with them.....its all about talking to people properly....giving respect earns respect'

Just driven past again today and there's two cars on zigzags and an abundance on single yellow lines. I have never seen spital hill or the wicker clear of cars which incidentally half of them aren't even taxed/tested.
So everyday your mum has to be nice as pie to people and politely ask them to move their cars from illegal places. As for the respect bit I think its because they don't want a ticket not because they've fallen in love with a traffic officer.
Also an hour after bet the same cars r parked up where they were
;) ;) ;) :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Personally I think Starmag is looking for one word and thats discretion from the police. Surely they could have ticked him off rather than giving him a whopping 60 fine and 3 points. His insurance will rocket albeit all for a silly petty mistake.
Sounds a cliche but one of our neighbours got broke into and the burglar actually phoned the police telling them to come. They took 20 minutes. Is it any wonder we get frustrated when they are out on 'Sandwich Patrol'? Just my tuppence worth. Flame suit on :help:

claireelizab
30-11-2005, 12:11
The traffic police and traffic wardens are one of those not so rare groups of people who think its one rule for them and another for everybody else. they were probably feeling cantancerous and very self important after all bad parking is a very serious matter! But dont take it to heart they were probably killing time before paying a mandatory visit to mc donnalds!

AlquarUK
30-11-2005, 15:31
YOUR error could have caused a pedestrian to be knocked down. 3 points and £60 is a small price to pay compared to the accident you could have caused.

The markings are there so traffic can clearly see people at the crossing.

sorry mate I might sound harsh but its fact.

:)

RichD
30-11-2005, 16:14
Originally posted by AlquarUK
YOUR error could have caused a pedestrian to be knocked down. 3 points and £60 is a small price to pay compared to the accident you could have caused.

The markings are there so traffic can clearly see people at the crossing.

sorry mate I might sound harsh but its fact.

:)
I agree with that argument for the most part, but I'd have to say a stationary vehicle does not cause an accident by itself - a moving one has to contribute. If you're approaching a crossing or something, and you can't see perfectly, you slow down. If you don't, you're driving badly.

AlquarUK
30-11-2005, 17:01
Originally posted by RichD
I agree with that argument for the most part, but I'd have to say a stationary vehicle does not cause an accident by itself - a moving one has to contribute. If you're approaching a crossing or something, and you can't see perfectly, you slow down. If you don't, you're driving badly.

reading between the lines thats what I was meaning, well unless he has an unexpectedly large exhaust, both scolding the pedestrians legs and tripping them into the road! ha ha :D

but it does block both drivers and pedestrians vision, and they don't usually put a crossing in unless its a busy road. dangerous combination specially with winter visibility and driving conditions.

misterm
30-11-2005, 17:47
Question for redrobbo on this. You are a city councillor, as I understand these days, traffic wardens come under the responsibility of the local councils.

It has been mentioned on here a number of times about Spital Hill and illegal parking and my father has on numerous occasions rang up trying to get traffic wardens down there - what is the council take on this - why do some areas not get the attention they need - Spital Hill is a very busy entry / exit to the town centre and this parking does cause more congestion ( guess that'll help swing the congestion charge argument too :rolleyes: )