I am doing a project where I am working with the CIQ Agency, which is responsible for promoting the Cultural Industries Quarter. I am finding out what student's know about the area. But I was wondering if people in Sheffield knew what the place was, as out of the 106 student I have asked only 3 have heard of the area!!!

Yes, I have a 9-5 job in a building in the CIQ and subscribe to the CIQ newletter.

When I asked a similar question back in June, I didn't get much of a reply...
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1217

I get the CIQ e-mail newsletter but don't really attend many of the events due to time constraints. I don't actually work in the CIQ though, just more of an outside observer! They keep promising to add Sheffield Forum to their links page, but 6 months later and I'm still waiting for their web'master' to get his/her act together...

For those of you who are saying "CIQ?! eh what?" try this page for a quick breakdown... I cut out the web site frames from the link as they were annoying me... :P http://www.ciq.org.uk/blue/a_overview.asp

Nope, im afraid I dont know what or where the Cultural Industries Quarter is :confused:

But after reading Geoffs link, I have a vague idea..

I use 'the Drum' in the old NCPM for Sheffield live radio, plus i'm always around there in my job.

The CIQ concept was first started almost 20 years ago. The Workstation is in a building which used to be owned by Kennings, the car rental people.

The idea was to create an area with "cultural" industries that could create some kind of synergy, work with each other and develop - film, TV, radio, marketing, theatre, graphics, design, music, etc, etc.

I understand that over 3,000 people now work in the cultural and media related industries in that area - a bit of a success, considering the cynics at the time who said it wouldn't work! Not bad for a derelict car showroom and some rundown former workshops.

It seems from my research that students are just using the nightclubs and pubs in the CIQ, and it is Sheffield residents using the rest of the facilties.

hi,

i am a town planning student at sheffield university and our latest project is to come up with some hypothetical designs for the area consisting mainly of the car park behind the CPM and in front of the SHU business/science park, and the buildings around it. From my research i have also found that there are not many passive users on the site - most people use the site to walk through to either SH uni or centre of town. Those that do use the site tend to use it just to park their cars and then move elsewhere by foot.

I'd be very interested to hear what people on here would do with that car park space - either keep it as a car park, build apartments, retail, office space or some sort of use associated with the cultural industries?

How about moving the SHU cultural / teaching campus from Psalter Lane and Collegiate Crescent onto the site in a new purpose built building? Thereby releasing valuable development land / property that is no longer suitable for modern university purposes and is distant from the main SHU campus, enabling the centralisation of the university into a single zone.

Handy that SHU own it eh? Ooommfff... maybe that's a bit close to reality ;)

if the CIQ is to remain an so, building apartments will just diminish what little chance it has to become cultural.

i think im right in saying its one of the few areas where venues can obtain licences beyond 2am....ie crasher, niche and spearmint rhino and leadmill.....but if we keep putting new complex housing in there the licenses will diminish, and its not as though we have an abundance of venues anymore.

the whole thing is quite bizarre !

yeh i like the idea of moving psalter lane, as the campus would probably cost more to modernise than to move! Good point about the licenses too.. Not sure how well suited the site is to apartments because of the surrounding buildings.. will have to give it a think!

Originally posted by green
if the CIQ is to remain an so, building apartments will just diminish what little chance it has to become cultural.

i think im right in saying its one of the few areas where venues can obtain licences beyond 2am....ie crasher, niche and spearmint rhino and leadmill.....but if we keep putting new complex housing in there the licenses will diminish, and its not as though we have an abundance of venues anymore.

the whole thing is quite bizarre !

How do you figure that? It all works rather swimmingly in Devonshire Green. There was all that fuss about the new Student Flats right next door to the Republic / Gatecrasher1, but there hasnt been a single noise complaint from the residents. I think that you're scaremongering.

tony you are dreaming........crasher have had to make immense improvements to their roof to make it soundproof....and no one has complained........you are jesting arent you??!!??

Originally posted by Tony
How about moving the SHU cultural / teaching campus from Psalter Lane and Collegiate Crescent onto the site in a new purpose built building? Thereby releasing valuable development land / property that is no longer suitable for modern university purposes and is distant from the main SHU campus, enabling the centralisation of the university into a single zone.

Handy that SHU own it eh? Ooommfff... maybe that's a bit close to reality ;)

Psaler Lane is moving to the City Centre. The NMB building is going to be knocked down and it is going there. Then the student union is moving to the old NCPM. Can't see them moving Collegiate Crescent as its a nicer campus than Psalter Lane. Actucally the only nice thing about the place is that it was where the Human League held their first gig!

Originally posted by green
tony you are dreaming........crasher have had to make immense improvements to their roof to make it soundproof....and no one has complained........you are jesting arent you??!!??

I'm not jesting at all.

The developer of the student flats PAID for the improvements which quite frankly GC should have made years ago. I've seen reports that there used to be over 85Db in the street in the early hours of the morning.

Those improvements were made BEFORE the flats were finished and it is true that there have been no complaints, at least up to a few months ago when I had the conversation.

Don't run away with the idea that GC were forced to do it, they agreed and were paid for their trouble.

i'm sure if the site was used for apartments, the developers would come to some kind of deal where noise problems were dealt with and the apartments would be designed to limit any impacts on the residents.
As for moving psalter lane, i think its a very good idea, but where did u hear its definatly happening? last i heard the new students union was going to be in the old c.p.m but thats it. I doubt the NMB is big enough to house the facilities needed by the cultural studies faculty?

Psalter Ln is closing soon - it's been planned for maybe 5 years now. Most of Collegiate Cres will close in 3-4 years. That's the students pretty much gone from Ecclesall Road.

(going off topic)

What are all the landlords gonna do with their student houses around Hunters Bar?

And where is Hallam moving everything to? Somewhere to the East of the city centre?

Hallam own pretty much all the open land around CIQ, so they have a good opportunity to centralise the whole uni onto one campus instead of having stuff all over the city. Remember that all uni's need less space per student than a few years ago, simply because of the way that courses are structured.

yeh and less desks, but more computer banks, lol

i think hunters bar and ecclesall road would still be a popular place to live because it isn't far from the city centre, and its a very nice area :)

Had to do a leaflet promoting Sheffield to new students and had to do research on CIQ. Its pretty much around paternoster row, brown st area with the workstation, showroom cinema and the artspace...and for some bizzare yet humorous reason Spearmint Rhino. I believe there was some controversy over that...putting a "gentleman's club" in the middle of the cultural industries quarter???!!!
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No Psalter Lane is moving in 2 or 3 years, but Collegiate is staying for the foreseeable future. there isn't enough land in town to move it. I have been told it would effect ecclesal road too much. I only know this as I go to them.

Originally posted by Tony
Psalter Ln is closing soon - it's been planned for maybe 5 years now. Most of Collegiate Cres will close in 3-4 years. That's the students pretty much gone from Ecclesall Road.

Yep I had to design a leafter to promote Sheffield, although I got marked down as I didnt mention the Peak District !!!!

Originally posted by Mosherchik
Had to do a leaflet promoting Sheffield to new students and had to do research on CIQ. Its pretty much around paternoster row, brown st area with the workstation, showroom cinema and the artspace...and for some bizzare yet humorous reason Spearmint Rhino. I believe there was some controversy over that...putting a "gentleman's club" in the middle of the cultural industries quarter???!!!
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Originally posted by qazitory
No Psalter Lane is moving in 2 or 3 years, but Collegiate is staying for the foreseeable future. there isn't enough land in town to move it. I have been told it would effect ecclesal road too much. I only know this as I go to them.

Yea yea ;) I was just making it up. Remember to check the Sheffield Forum archive in 4 years time ;)

Originally posted by qazitory
Yep I had to design a leafter to promote Sheffield, although I got marked down as I didnt mention the Peak District !!!!
You got marked down??? I mentioned all sorts but neglected to mention our football teams and the peak district and I got the highest mark in the year!!! Lord knows what other people missed out then if I got the highest!!! :wink:
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maybe it wasn't just the content, it could of been the style, research, referencing or quality of writing?

I think they just wanted to find fault with my work!! Anyway I got the mark I wanted, so it didn't bother me! Did you have to design a web site as well?

Did they say you got the highest mark? Did they tell the person with the lowest? lol

as a student from sheffield id like to say that the cultural studies department at hallam promote the CIQ. we are informed of most of the events. xx

Originally posted by qazitory
I think they just wanted to find fault with my work!! Anyway I got the mark I wanted, so it didn't bother me! Did you have to design a web site as well?

Did they say you got the highest mark? Did they tell the person with the lowest? lol
Yep had to do a website as well, it was a pain in the bum! all my external links worked perfectly but the internal links were all screwed so it was just one big web page!
Only found out I got the highest mark cos my friend told me, she was joint top, and going nuts about her website submission being late but tutor told her not to panic cos she had highest leaflet mark along with me!

Of course its all gone downhill now! :wink:
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Originally posted by Shellspeare
as a student from sheffield id like to say that the cultural studies department at hallam promote the CIQ. we are informed of most of the events. xx

Have you got a notice board on your course promoting events? Or do your lecturers tell you about them? Sorry for all the questions, it's just that I'm meant to be reporting my findings back to some of the senior members of the university. At the moment my research tells me that cultural students do not know about the CIQ. Also the University is not giving out any info out about the area. If you could help, I would be thankful!

I am a cultural studies student, and I only know about the CIQ as I come from Sheffield.

Yeah the CIQ is that area of the city centre which sucks up so mush of the cities (public money) in an attempt to be creative... However what is really 'produced' is an elitist area where most of the jobs and output are involved out of town. This area doesnt mean much to someone living on an Run Down Estate though, who can't afford the coffee prices...However the quarter I feel does give a sense of pride in the city and if it can do anything it can help the cities advanced manufacturing industry be more creative be it through sub-contraction or untraded interdependencies.

and what is needed is more publicity in direct answer to your question...most people on an Estate probably do not realise that it is cheaper to visit the Showroom cinema - than the centretainment both in ticket,transport and refreshments......''BUT'' (AND ITS A BIG BUT).. Does the quarter really want to advertise itself to the masses in this way or does it want to keep its little special corner of culture and be elitist.. I think the latter

Originally posted by raukous
(AND ITS A BIG BUT).. Does the quarter really want to advertise itself to the masses in this way or does it want to keep its little special corner of culture and be elitist.. I think the latter [/B]

yep, we did come to that conclusion as well! As many businesses and organisations get funding from elsewhere, like Europeon money, not through direct customers. So it wouldn't affect them if the Sheffield public knew nothing about them.

Although there are some quite useful places down there like the Red Tape Studios, which offer free training to people on low income.

Hey there

I am studying at Hallam uni and am preparing to do my dissertation on the NCPM's impact within the CIQ, for the worst as it may appear. This involves looking at usage in the area and the comment that foot traffic appears to be as a means of access to others areas is a good point. Has anyone carried out statistical research?