GRRRR at the stupid title too short error :( (5 times it took to post this)

i keep trying at it, but im crap :P

however i have found this linux course which is now free

http://ftlinuxcourse.com/

it was in linux format magazine AGAIN :P
so if any of you other peeps is trying to get to grips with linux, try it out :)

Do you have any trouble getting on line with Linux? My ISP is Wanadoo and they don't support Linux.

i have trouble with linux full stop :)

its so user unfriendly, but i still really wanna get into it


i got online once using knoppix, not tried since

I want Linnux to get away from Microsoft who I don't like, but I need to be online as well. I did install it a few months ago and I have to admit the version I used was very basic.

Originally posted by Grahame
Do you have any trouble getting on line with Linux? My ISP is Wanadoo and they don't support Linux.


Maybe not on dial up, but BB through a NIC under *nix is easy:).




Originally posted by melthebell
i have trouble with linux full stop :)

Don't give up!!! It is worth it in the long run;).




Originally posted by melthebell
its so user unfriendly


You should have tried it a few years ago then:).

I have BB from Wanadoo but I don't know what NIC is. Will you explain.

Cheers

Originally posted by Grahame
I have BB from Wanadoo but I don't know what NIC is. Will you explain.

Cheers

network interface card (a network card for connecting 2 computers together)

Now you mention it I have NIC on two computers but I don't bother with it.

I think I see what you mean. You mean install Linux on my spare computer and go online with my computer that has XP installed?

But I want to get away from Microsoft completly.

Originally posted by Grahame
Now you mention it I have NIC on two computers but I don't bother with it.

I think I see what you mean. You mean install Linux on my spare computer and go online with my computer that has XP installed?

But I want to get away from Microsoft completly.
Just get a BB router then.

If your using a Modem (DSL or Cable) that connects to your PC Via a NIC (Network Interface Card) Then 99% of the time you will be fine, Unless its on on board NIC as most of these are none standard, and wont work with the standard linux (RTL8139) driver...

If Your using a USB Modem (DSL or Cable) Then you have more of a problem on your hands.. Some linux distro's have USB support as standard, however most of them you have to change the kernel compile flags prior to installation, to install full USB support, - And even then, the standard USB Modem drivers may not work for your modem or setup..

The 2, easiest ways I have found are...

1) A router, Using this you can use a Nic, Make sure you get a Realtek 8139 compatable network card (as this is the standard linux driver) most decent (mid to high priced) cards should work fine. -- You set up the modem through the router (using a windows machine) and then install linux, Once the network card is all installed, if you set it up as DHCP, you should be fine (99% of the time)

2) Setting up a "Virtual" router (This is my preferred/currently used method) - You can have a PC with 1 NIC and your modem connected via USB (or another NIC) - Running windows, You then run a piece of software such as ICS (Internet connection sharing) or WinRoute (www.kerio.com -- My personal choice) and also, the final piece of equipment, a network Hub or Switch..

You plug in your internet PC, and your Linux with a NIC into the Hub/Switch, and set it all up to use that (winroute also supports DHCP so you should be ok with that too)

the only drawback to method 2, is you have to leave the MAIN PC on all the time, for the other PC(s) to access the internet, as This PC is acting as the router.


Hope this hasnt confused you too much, hope it has helped..

my BB modems usb (speedtouch) and knoppix found it straight away :)

Thanks a bunch Ghozer. I use speedtouch like melthebell.

I am a little confused I have to admit and my initial reaction is to stay as I am for the moment. I'm sure there are people out there working on an alternative to windows and hopefully one day Linux may become an "easy" viable option.

Thanks for the explanation Ghozer.

Originally posted by melthebell
my BB modems usb (speedtouch) and knoppix found it straight away :)

As I said, SOME do have full USB compatability as standard now, (more and more are adding it as a standard thing)

My explination and info was purely for thoes people who try these things, and wonder why it diddnt work...

I must admit though, I dont like knoppix personally, but good on them for adding the support as standard.

Originally posted by Ghozer
As I said, SOME do have full USB compatability as standard now, (more and more are adding it as a standard thing)

My explination and info was purely for thoes people who try these things, and wonder why it diddnt work...

I must admit though, I dont like knoppix personally, but good on them for adding the support as standard.

i do like knoppix although cos its a live distribution you cant install to it very easy, plus i cant do much in it........but thats just me and linux generally :P

Thats a good point, Knoppix isnt an installable linux as such, since it s a CD boot Distro, so obviously they have had to include atleast minimal Support for most things as standard..

Glad it works, atleast it will give you some experience using it..