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Indigogo
12-02-2004, 13:40
''Maxine Carr's application for early release from jail has been rejected, the Prison Service has confirmed.

Prisons boss Martin Narey decided against granting her early release under the electronic tagging scheme.

He decided to use new powers to refuse permission to grant her release, on the grounds it would undermine public confidence in the scheme.''


. . . who cares anyway ?

Belle
12-02-2004, 14:04
I expect there would have been an outcry from the Tony Martin supporters of this world if she had been allowed out on parole

Sidla
12-02-2004, 14:05
Has Maxine actually done anything wrong?

RPG
12-02-2004, 14:09
Originally posted by Sidla
Has Maxine actually done anything wrong?

Lying under oath & peverting the course of justice, pretty big crimes in my book

max
12-02-2004, 14:13
Originally posted by RPG
Lying under oath & peverting the course of justice, pretty big crimes in my book

I thought she only lied before the court case in that she gave Huntley a false alibi which she swiftly retracted once she saw the evidence against him.

I think it's obnoxious that the guidelines can be changed overnight following articles in the Daily Hang 'em and Flog 'em. If someone is eligible for parole then whether or not they receive it should be left to the parole board not politicians, imo.

Zamo
12-02-2004, 14:14
Originally posted by Sidla
Has Maxine actually done anything wrong?
Giving a false alibi for someone who later turned out to be a double murderer would class as doing something wrong in my book!

However, I'm not sure how long she kept the pretence up and I'm sure she honestly did it because she thought he was innocent. We seem to be happy enough to let murders, rapists, muggers and buglars out early under this scheme so why not someone who isn't even a threat to the public?

Belle
12-02-2004, 14:15
Of COURSE she has done something wrong

She has knowingly and wilfully allowed herself to fall under the spell of a psychotic child abuser with a history of violence to the point where, for at least a few days, she told the police that she was with him, when she wasnt

Anyone who tells lies to the police because they are scared of their partner hitting them or throwing them down the stairs deserves three years in prison

Stands to reason

RPG
12-02-2004, 14:18
Either way, do you really think she'd last long at all out in the "outside world" she'd be either attacked and/or killed as soon as anyone found where she was.

Sidla
12-02-2004, 14:20
What I meant was has she done anything wrong apart from lieing to try and protect a man she thought was innocent?

The fact that Huntley was guilty is totally irrelavent, in fact I'd go as far to say that Maxine is Huntley's 3rd victim. She trusted him and now she's regretting it. Is it her fault Ian was a murderer? Is it her fault he lied to her and she fell for it?

Obviously I wasn't in the court at the time to hear all the evidence given against her, but from what I read, by the time the trial was over she felt the same about Huntley as most of the public feel now.

Skatiechik
12-02-2004, 14:23
Its wrong that laws can be changed so easily.

Next thing you know, the 'Innocent before Guilty' will be changed to 'Lock them up until we know they are innocent'

I don't see why she shouldn't be released, it must have been awful for her when she found out her boyfriend was a murderer.

Love can be a terrible thing sometimes and blind us from the truth.

I think she will be paying for the fact she lied for the rest of her life with guilt, why make her suffer even more now.

steelblade
12-02-2004, 14:26
I wouldn't say I felt sorry for Maxine Carr but I can sort of understand why she lied. I mean how many of us would want to think our partner who we sleep with, open hearts up to, share our lives with, could do something so terrible? I know I wouldn't want to believe it.

Sidla
12-02-2004, 14:30
Originally posted by steelblade
I wouldn't say I felt sorry for Maxine Carr but I can sort of understand why she lied. I mean how many of us would want to think our partner who we sleep with, open hearts up to, share our lives with, could do something so terrible? I know I wouldn't want to believe it.
Exactly! I expect most of us would have done the same thing if we were in her situation.

Zamo
12-02-2004, 14:31
Originally posted by Skatiechik
Its wrong that laws can be changed so easily.

Next thing you know, the 'Innocent before Guilty' will be changed to 'Lock them up until we know they are innocent'

This is already happening under the anti-terrorism legislation brought in after 9/11. Blunket and Blair also want to also reduce the level of proof required for other offences to "on the balance of probability" instead of "beyond reasonable doubt". A dangerous and slippery slope if you ask me.

Sidla
12-02-2004, 14:33
Originally posted by Zamo
This is already happening under the anti-terrorism legislation brought in after 9/11. Blunket and Blair also want to also reduce the level of proof required for other offences to "on the balance of probability" instead of "beyond reasonable doubt". A dangerous and slippery slope if you ask me.
Definately. Innocent people will almost certainly go to gaol because of this law change. It certainly won't help race relations.

Indigogo
12-02-2004, 16:15
Originally posted by Sidla
Has Maxine actually done anything wrong?


No - she tried to stand up for her man - before she knew what he did.

She could have been any decent woman.

Lickszz
13-02-2004, 04:21
When Carr is released it should be an end to the matter and the sorded effort to impose a political sentence upon her. A sentence is supposed to be final and then once completed is not supposed to be continued with a campaign of harassment.

Indigogo
13-02-2004, 05:25
I agree with you.

Tony
13-02-2004, 07:21
Interesting and encouragingly liberal attitudes from the Sheffield Forum on this one.

I hope that David Blunkett is reading this, the word of the people. (obviously he will get the Braille version of the Sheffield Forum :) )