Another weird childhood memory from the 50s & 60s are those strange brass measuring devices which used to be set into the south wall of the Peace Gardens.

There was a narrow alley running from The Moor through to Norfolk Street. I can't recall the name, but there was a row of shops on one side (including the famous Hobbies). The Peace Gardens wall formed the other side of this alley and set into this low wall were a number of brass measuring rods.

They weren't just showing feet, inches and yards either. There were rods, poles, perches, chains and other bizarre and outdated units of measurement.

Last time I was in Sheffield (2002) I checked and they'd been removed, along with most of the Peace Gardens' southern wall, it seems

Still there on the other side. If memory serves me, they were / are a statutory requirement in large towns / cities so that citizens and surveyors could check measuring equipment.

They are a rather quaint reminder in the days of laser surveying.

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Still there on the other side. If memory serves me, they were / are a statutory requirement in large towns / cities so that citizens and surveyors could check measuring equipment.

They are a rather quaint reminder in the days of laser surveying.

Sorted! Cheers!

Actually - thinking about it, they are outside what is going to be the new Register Office entrance. Perhaps they should add a new measure .... "length of marriage" just to remind people what they have just done.

They have now been replaced but on the other side adjacent to the old town hall building>What i would like to see ,are the old wooden bus shelters replaced

Back on planet Earth , surprised Sheffield still exsist's.does the Montgomery pub (bottom of Granville rd opp the big island) still serve the worst possible ale in the universe and are there still muffins for tea?

I too remember that little alley with the brass measuring things . I recall Dad telling me the story of how they came about. When I visited Sheffield in 2003., I noticed that they had be relocated to the front of the New Peace Gardens . I snapped some photos and Hubby had a great time walking slowly past them as he took video reading what they said. Something from my childhood for the "BOOK OF ME that I am going to start early in 2007

Back on planet Earth , surprised Sheffield still exsist's.does the Montgomery pub (bottom of Granville rd opp the big island) still serve the worst possible ale in the universe and are there still muffins for tea?

sorry, asti, but there is no such pub, these days, and hasn't been for donkey's.

The nearest pub to the botom of Granville Road is the Royal Standard, on St Mary's Gate. (or you could walk on towards the train station, and go in the "censored" bar (which was the old "Norfolk Arms", junction of leadmill rd)

In days goneby(pre 1900) maps were drawn & measured by a man with a wheel on a stick, a white mark painted on the wheel gave the op the distance by counting the revs,working for survey in1956 with all our mod equipment we didn't change the maps by 1inch ,those old map makers were GOOD.

Another weird childhood memory from the 50s & 60s are those strange brass measuring devices which used to be set into the south wall of the Peace Gardens.

There was a narrow alley running from The Moor through to Norfolk Street. I can't recall the name, but there was a row of shops on one side (including the famous Hobbies). The Peace Gardens wall formed the other side of this alley and set into this low wall were a number of brass measuring rods.

They weren't just showing feet, inches and yards either. There were rods, poles, perches, chains and other bizarre and outdated units of measurement.

Last time I was in Sheffield (2002) I checked and they'd been removed, along with most of the Peace Gardens' southern wall, it seems
I remeber going with school to use these measures for a project the alley was called St Pauls Parade

Another weird childhood memory from the 50s & 60s are those strange brass measuring devices which used to be set into the south wall of the Peace Gardens.

There was a narrow alley running from The Moor through to Norfolk Street. I can't recall the name, but there was a row of shops on one side (including the famous Hobbies). The Peace Gardens wall formed the other side of this alley and set into this low wall were a number of brass measuring rods.

They weren't just showing feet, inches and yards either. There were rods, poles, perches, chains and other bizarre and outdated units of measurement.

Last time I was in Sheffield (2002) I checked and they'd been removed, along with most of the Peace Gardens' southern wall, it seems

As another reader has said, St.Paul's Parade was the name of the walkway.
My mum-in-law used to work in the Army supplies shop on the corner.

Actually - thinking about it, they are outside what is going to be the new Register Office entrance. Perhaps they should add a new measure .... "length of marriage" just to remind people what they have just done.

It won't have a special "This is what 10" really looks like then?" :o

Tazz

Just a snippet. St Paul's Parade was named after St Paul's church, which used to stand where the Peace Gardens are now. It was demolished in the 1930s, which seems a pity, as according to photos it was a rather attractive building with a nice dome.

Just a snippet. St Paul's Parade was named after St Paul's church, which used to stand where the Peace Gardens are now. It was demolished in the 1930s, which seems a pity, as according to photos it was a rather attractive building with a nice dome.

Am I right but were the headstones still in the peace gardens to be walked over still there until the late fifities when they were removed

Just a snippet. St Paul's Parade was named after St Paul's church, which used to stand where the Peace Gardens are now. It was demolished in the 1930s, which seems a pity, as according to photos it was a rather attractive building with a nice dome.
Just to add to that, the bloke who had the demolition contract used some of the stone to build houses on Trap Lane at Bents Green. If you look at the houses down at the end opposite Trap Lane Farm you'll see various decorated stonework on the facades, which came from St Paul's.

Am I right but were the headstones still in the peace gardens to be walked over still there until the late fifities when they were removed

I'm almost certain that you are right.
But where have the headstones now gone to?

I was talking about these measures with someone today, and realised that a photo would be useful, but after quite a bit of searching I've found nothing.
Does anyone here have anything they could post/link to, please?

I'm almost certain that you are right.
But where have the headstones now gone to?
And what about the poor people commemorated by the headstones, what happened to them?

I was talking about these measures with someone today, and realised that a photo would be useful, but after quite a bit of searching I've found nothing.
Does anyone here have anything they could post/link to, please?

I'll try to get a snap when I'm in Sheff later. Time is short and my list of things to do is long but I'll try. :)

Just a snippet. St Paul's Parade was named after St Paul's church, which used to stand where the Peace Gardens are now. It was demolished in the 1930s, which seems a pity, as according to photos it was a rather attractive building with a nice dome.

There are lots of pics of St Paul's on picturesheffield, shame it went, it was an impressive bit of architecture.

There are lots of pics of St Paul's on picturesheffield, shame it went, it was an impressive bit of architecture.

The name continued when Saint Pauls church was built at the corner of Berners Road and East Bank Road probably in the late 1930,s when the estate was built on the Arbourthorne.It was run by a Father Riches who thought he was catholic even though it was C of E. I think it was demolished in the 1960/70,s

The photos.
Sorry the quality is a bit rough. I managed to forget my camera so I used my phone.
Hope this is what you are looking for. :)

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I don't know what you mean - the quality is fine, much better than from my phone! Thanks for those, they'll do nicely.
I'd tried on picturesheffield, but couldn't find anything there, and a general Googling didn't turn anything up either (although I couldn't decide what to search for exactly!)

The name continued when Saint Pauls church was built at the corner of Berners Road and East Bank Road probably in the late 1930,s when the estate was built on the Arbourthorne.It was run by a Father Riches who thought he was catholic even though it was C of E. I think it was demolished in the 1960/70,s

Father Riches was probably what's called "High Church", in the Anglican Tradition.

The church was built in the mid thirties, as was the estate (1934/5/6 IIRC).

I remember it being derelict, and having broken windows in the early 1970s. I seem to remember it looked very similar to St Patricks, at Lane Top, large, with high, round windows, red brick construction.

The original St Pauls, at Arbourthorne was demolished in the mid 1970s, and a smaller building was erected behind where the original stood.

the site of the 1930s church had a "community home" built on it, for people with learning disabilities. (Some of my old patients went to live there after they left the hospital where I nursed)

the newer church building has now become disused, after only thirty years or so. The congregatons that used it have moved to the building that used to be the Fellbrig pub, at the bottom of Arbourthorne Road. the congregations of St Leonards, Norfolk Park, and St Pauls Arbourthorne have combined.

this is what the new building loked like shortly after closure, (thank you to Genuki)http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/PhotoFrames/WRY/ArbourthorneExStPaulForSale.html

you can see that the design of the steps up to the front was somewhat impractical for mobility impaired parishioners.

GINGER - INCCORECT


The are not bus shelters they are (OR WERE )TRAM SHELTERS

GINGER - INCCORECT


The are not bus shelters they are (OR WERE )TRAM SHELTERS

from the late fifties/early 1960's, until their demolition when the Peace gradens were redeveloped, they were used as Bus Shelters, though, so you are both correct, really!

jezzyjj, they'll not feel a thing, honest.

Father Riches was probably what's called "High Church", in the Anglican Tradition.

The church was built in the mid thirties, as was the estate (1934/5/6 IIRC).

I remember it being derelict, and having broken windows in the early 1970s. I seem to remember it looked very similar to St Patricks, at Lane Top, large, with high, round windows, red brick construction.

The original St Pauls, at Arbourthorne was demolished in the mid 1970s, and a smaller building was erected behind where the original stood.

the site of the 1930s church had a "community home" built on it, for people with learning disabilities. (Some of my old patients went to live there after they left the hospital where I nursed)

the newer church building has now become disused, after only thirty years or so. The congregatons that used it have moved to the building that used to be the Fellbrig pub, at the bottom of Arbourthorne Road. the congregations of St Leonards, Norfolk Park, and St Pauls Arbourthorne have combined.

this is what the new building loked like shortly after closure, (thank you to Genuki)http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/PhotoFrames/WRY/ArbourthorneExStPaulForSale.html

you can see that the design of the steps up to the front was somewhat impractical for mobility impaired parishioners.

Thanks for the info.Does anybody have any photos of the church or the surrounding area,as I used to live nearby.

Thanks for the info.Does anybody have any photos of the church or the surrounding area,as I used to live nearby.

there was a site with pictures of old churches round sheffield but although I have searched for it, the sites I have found are not the one I was looking for.

I googled the name of the church but didn't get much joy.

any 1 got pics of the very old st pauls that woz on east bank /berners ?

The measuring devices on the Peace Gardens wall were called " A Set of Standards " I used to see them every Saturday when I was treated to a toy from Hobbies or Wilson Gumpets.

the army stores at the bottom of St Pauls parade as brilliant in the 60s. Bought my first Blades scarf there (3/6d) MY brother bought an ex army khaki greatcoat for work and was rather disconcerted to find a darned hole in the right shoulder !! was then convinced that someone had been wearing it when the hole was made.