if you've heard the radio adds on their mega brilliant deals its b******* ive just been to see about a new van and after being taken round in circles and baffled with V.A.T figures and APR's they are no better than other dodgey car dealers..what a waste of an afternoon :( :( just for instance the add says any trade in car no matter what condition is worth 1300 quid off a new car,cheeky sods offerd me £100 and its not in bad nick.....

Originally posted by kirky
if you've heard the radio adds on their mega brilliant deals its b****cks ive just been to see about a new van and after being taken round in circles and baffled with V.A.T figures and APR's they are no better than other dodgey car dealers..what a waste of an afternoon :( :( just for instance the add says any trade in car no matter what condition is worth 1300 quid off a new car,cheeky sods offerd me £100 and its not in bad nick.....


Never buy from a dealer...


...They gotta make a cut - you gotta pay for it

What would you suggest as an alternative to a dealer?

They seem to have the market sewn up.

I don't know if they tell lies, but they did prang a new car whilst giving us a demonstration drive in our potential purchase!

Felt so sorry for the salesman (for about a second, then I remembered he was a salesman, and lost all respect for him again).




...I have a feeling this thread is going to be removed soon...

Don't hate the salesman...hate his boss as he's the guy making all the money and telling the underlings to SELL SELL SELL!!!

It's a thing with me i'm afraid. I just dont like sales people.

Pushy sales-people are a pain...they have to sell in order to get a comission.

But are they worse than apathetic staff who get paid by the hour?

"That's the beauty of catalogues, you don't have to deal with people face-to-face...or at all."

I work alongside a large sales team and the way they carry on disgusts me.

I'll take paid-by-the-hour people every time - at least they wouldnt sell their own mothers just to reach their monthly revenue target.

What narks me is the bull**** that they come out with when trying to sell you something that you evidently just don't need...you know that their supervisor is riding them like a bugger.

Try auto trader as an alternative for cars.

I have a camper van for sale of you're interested.

I like the new title of this thread, asking if Reg himself tells the odd porky! :D

Talking about car dealers, take a look at this link

http://www.ciao.co.uk/Carcraft_of_Sheffield__5297714/TabId/2

Originally posted by Carmine
What would you suggest as an alternative to a dealer?

They seem to have the market sewn up.



I would never buy new - I would only buy privately

I went on a test run in a second hand car from Gilders. I was perusing the handbook and I noticed that the service history had quite obviously been filled in all on the same day. Same pen, same handwriting, dates scribbled out and corrected, etc.

I queried the saleswoman and she said, "Don't worry about that, we do it all the time."

Alledgedly some people 'forget' to have their book stamped after each service and only realise when they come to sell the car, yeah right.

Now I realise this might have been an individual salesperson saying ANYTHING just to get a sale but it does make you wonder.

Needless to say I haven't been back there.

** edit

Ack, oops, just re-read this. Just to make it clear the 'dodgy dossier' had been stamped by another garage NOT Gilders but she did seem to imply it was standard practice. They had probably accepted the car has a trade-in and hadn't checked the paper work (or didn't care).

anyone got a decent car forsale :) think i'll give all dealers the wide birth

Didn't he play for the Owls.......Imre Reg Vardy :-)

Oh, I think that's a bit harsh. He always seemed very honest when he was on On The Buses. His sister Olive looked a bit devious, though! :D

Originally posted by mojoworking
Oh, I think that's a bit harsh. He always seemed very honest when he was on On The Buses. His sister Olive looked a bit devious, though! :D


:) :) :)

You think Reggie boy is a liar,you want to try Carcraft. 5 hours,2 salesmen and a manager and still they tell you one price one minute,then when the paperwork arrive,the figures have doubled!


One piece of advice to anyone thinking of going to Carshaft........

DON'T

Originally posted by Saxon
Talking about car dealers, take a look at this link

http://www.ciao.co.uk/Carcraft_of_Sheffield__5297714/TabId/2

Originally posted by tittyheed
You think Reggie boy is a liar,you want to try Carcraft. 5 hours,2 salesmen and a manager and still they tell you one price one minute,then when the paperwork arrive,the figures have doubled!


One piece of advice to anyone thinking of going to Carshaft........

DON'T

Yeah, Reg Vardy is a pussycat compared with Carcraft, but be very careful what you say about them.

They're very laywer-happy - another Sheffield site was forced to remove some posts from disgruntled customers after being threatened with legal action by Carcraft's solicitors.

For the record, I have been stung by them, and I would never advise ANYONE to EVER go to them EVER. Seriously.

You have been warned.

REG VARDY

Only heard two things about them. One was terrible. Another was a smooth purchase for a good car.

I test drove a car there. When I let go of the wheel it veered sharply to the left. The salesman was playing dumb and just got on my nerves by failing to answer simple questions. The salesman ten feet away was trying to rip off some poor lass who had told him what her maximum budget was and he was trying to get some shocking APRs. Or "ARP's" as my play-dumb salesman said.

I'd avoid them simply because I don't want to give money to people like that.


CARCRAFT

I believe their speciality is selling to people who can't get credit elsewhere. I went once and found the model of car I wanted was on sale second hand for £1000 more than the cost new!


In the end I found the model I wanted on fish4cars.co.uk and bought it from a little place in the countryside near Rotherham for a good price.

This one is entertaining...

http://www.onlineamiga.demon.co.uk/carhell/diary.html

I hope his small claims court case is successful.

Reg. Carcraft, I sometimes go when I'm choosing between cars since it's no hassle sitting in the cars and generally getting up close to them (they are all unlocked and very very clean!).

With regards to their prices though - they are ridiculous. The last time I went I saw a new shape MR2 with something like 40k on the clock for exactly the same price (+ colour and spec) as my friend bought a brand new one about a year ago from a main dealer! It beggars belief that they actually sell cars like this.

It also annoys me the way they assign a salesperson to you, who you can only shake off by pointing out that you saw the same car for £4k cheaper, in much better condition and with half of the mileage only two hours ago at a different dealer (no word of a lie here, this genuinly happened - the guy had no comeback and obviously realised that he wasn't gonna sell me anything so he left me to it!)

Isn't Carcraft the one where they don't actually display the price of the car but tell you how much you would have to pay per week? They hide the more trivial details such as APR and length of the loan in small print.

I took a calculator along and was astonished by the prices.

I too had the sticky salesman however I played hardball. When he asked me to sit down for a cosy chat I refused and just stood impatiently with my arms folded. He looked a tad uncomfortable as he went through his script and eventually let me browse by myself.

I think they are supposed to collar you before you leave, I just waited until his back was turned and made a run for it.

Somewhere else I have never been back to....

ive also heard some bad things about that "yes car credit" place summat like 28%apr for a bag of crap how do these people get away with it

Originally posted by Vanbast
I went on a test run in a second hand car from Gilders. I was perusing the handbook and I noticed that the service history had quite obviously been filled in all on the same day. Same pen, same handwriting, dates scribbled out and corrected, etc.

I queried the saleswoman and she said, "Don't worry about that, we do it all the time."

Alledgedly some people 'forget' to have their book stamped after each service and only realise when they come to sell the car, yeah right.

Now I realise this might have been an individual salesperson saying ANYTHING just to get a sale but it does make you wonder.

Needless to say I haven't been back there.

** edit

Ack, oops, just re-read this. Just to make it clear the 'dodgy dossier' had been stamped by another garage NOT Gilders but she did seem to imply it was standard practice. They had probably accepted the car has a trade-in and hadn't checked the paper work (or didn't care).

Sad but probably true. As a company car driver for many years I can vouch for her comment on stamping service books. Many dealers these days are happy to charge you the £60 per hour service charge and all the extras but can't be bothered to get off their backsides to stamp your book. I've lost count of how many times I 've asked for stamps and updates. However, you can always check as the sevicing dealer will have your cars service records and history on their computer systems. So if it's a main dealer service history just give them the Reg no and they can give you it's history,

Originally posted by kirky
ive also heard some bad things about that "yes car credit" place summat like 28%apr for a bag of crap how do these people get away with it

I like spotting Yes' psychological tricks. On the adverts they have a short blond girl dressed like she works in a garden centre. A sharp suited sales man might rip you off, but surely a cute female garden centre employee is trustworthy.... yeh right.

I reckon the problem is that the country is just too safe nowadays. In the past, natural selection ensured that stupid people managed to kill themselves in rediculous ways. But all these damn safety campaigns and compensation culture have meant that anything that might possibly be harmful has been made excessively safe. Instead, the stupid are now just picked off as prey for the finance industry.

I am pretty sure Reg Vardy is in the great car dealership in the sky, their Peter is in charge these days

He is a very religious man, he is about to put millions of pounds into Thorne Grammar School to turn it into a christian secondary school concentrating on business studies, or so I heard

Originally posted by garrence
I reckon the problem is that the country is just too safe nowadays. In the past, natural selection ensured that stupid people managed to kill themselves in rediculous ways. But all these damn safety campaigns and compensation culture have meant that anything that might possibly be harmful has been made excessively safe. Instead, the stupid are now just picked off as prey for the finance industry.

Haha. Good thought!

Originally posted by Vanbast
I was perusing the handbook and I noticed that the service history had quite obviously been filled in all on the same day. Same pen, same handwriting, dates scribbled out and corrected, etc.


Yeah. I wouldn't buy from anyone who wasn't smart enough to use a different pen to fill out each box.

I've have seen a car i want from Reg Vardy. I haven't really looked around. Would you say Reg Vardy is good? Are you please with the car you have bought from them? And is there any place that sell cheaper used cars with finance?

I'd be grateful for your help!

Bought my last 3 from there - 2 used, one new. No probs apart from a cashback cheque a few weeks late.

APR can be expensive if you get their finance.

i'm just after a new car myself..the one ive got now i bought from vardy's 6 years ago,harly had to spend anything on it except obviously wear n tear and would defo use them again if they have what i'm lookin for.

Well, I thought he was good in On The Buses, but I don't know if I'd buy a used car from him. :)

Originally posted by mojoworking
Well, I thought he was good in On The Buses, but I don't know if I'd buy a used car from him. :)

unfortunatley blakey had it in for him so he went into the used car trade,i always said he was far to friendly and easy going to be a bus driver anyway....he also had a personality:D

Originally posted by kirky
unfortunatley blakey had it in for him so he went into the used car trade,i always said he was far to friendly and easy going to be a bus driver anyway....he also had a personality:D

Just as long as he doesn't get Olive draping herself across the bonnet in bikini! ;)

Originally posted by mojoworking
Just as long as he doesn't get Olive draping herself across the bonnet in bikini! ;)

what a disgusting thought:| i belive jack will be at the next royal wedding,we he is the brides identical twin

:hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

Originally posted by kirky
what a disgusting thought:| i belive jack will be at the next royal wedding,we he is the brides identical twin

:hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

Which one of them will be using the teeth on the big day? :D

Originally posted by mojoworking
Which one of them will be using the teeth on the big day? :D

the horse pulling the carridge:)

There is no need to be facetious, can you keep all these comments to PM's :nono: :nono: :nono:

Olive was lovely in a two bags sort of way BTW :D

sorry.....:( :( :( there we go,having fun again:nono:

Originally posted by kirky
sorry.....:( :( :( there we go,having fun again:nono:

Apology accepted, well done for realising the error of your ways.:D

DON'T DO IT !!!!!!

That is the best advice i can give you they should be renamed ROB VARDY !!

Bought a used car from them last March and have had no end of problems with it and them !!

Serious lack of customer service once they have your cash they don't give a toss, the ultimate in Robbin' Bar Stewards !!

I have always previously bought my cars privately but this time i could afford a bit more and made the dreadful error of mistaking Reg Vardy for a reputable dealership - How Wrong I was !!

Bought the car in march had wait 5 days for it to be ready was given a courtesy car to tide me over but not until 2 days after i made the purchase, not a problem though i understand that this is a courtesy service fair point, not entirley sur the car they gave me was road worthy though !!

Picked up my car with the pro pack (seat guard, paint guard headlamp protectors etc) only to be told that they hadn't had any headlamp protectors in stock so i would have to bring my car back at some point to get them fitted.

2 weeks after i had the car a bottle of water leaked on the passenger seat left an awful tide mark/stain. It was only water and the seats where allegedly treated so that any liquid would just wipe off so i returned to reg vardy and was told "oh maybe we didin't put it on properly " so they cleaned it and gave me the drags of an old can and told me to spray it myself when it was dry !!

Still no headlamp protectors !

I've just seen the length of my post and there is so much more to write and i get more and more frustrated with every word but to cut a long story short i have had the car just under a year now my seat is still stained, i still have no headlamp protectors ( get this apparently fiat don't make them to fit proper and that's why !!) I've had to have the exhaust replaced, the front wheels re-aligned, the engine management system looked at and it's still faulty and i wish i'd never bought the bloody thing basically !!

So are they any good ? No definitely not !!! Save your self the trouble and have a bonfire with the couple of grand you would waste with them !!

I didn't buy my car from them, but they do service and maintain it...I've had no problems with the quality of their service in the two years I've been dealing with them.

However, a friend purchased a new Renault Laguna turbo-diesel estate from them and has nothing but trouble since he bought it...the engine failed shortly before delivery and had to be replaced(!).

He tells me he should have taken that a sign and moved on...he's had all sorts of major and minor problems with the car since then such as engine cables and wheel bearings failing on more than one occasion and as many of the problems are classed as wear and tear, they aren't covered by the manufacturers warranty. Therefore he has to fork out hundreds of pounds to get it repaired.

Reg Vardy also managed to damage one of his expensive custom-imported alloy wheels, which he wasn't pleased about either...

In fairness, apart from the alloy wheel damage, most of his problems seem to be due to the potentially-suspicious build quality of what should be Renault's flagship model rather than any failing on Reg Vardy's part.

My friends story does have a happy(ish) ending. His Laguna was written off in an accident, so he went a bought a 54 plate VW Passat instead!

Originally posted by louisa
DON'T DO IT !!!!!!

That is the best advice i can give you they should be renamed ROB VARDY !!

Bought a used car from them last March and have had no end of problems with it and them !!

Serious lack of customer service once they have your cash they don't give a toss, the ultimate in Robbin' Bar Stewards !!

I have always previously bought my cars privately but this time i could afford a bit more and made the dreadful error of mistaking Reg Vardy for a reputable dealership - How Wrong I was !!

Bought the car in march had wait 5 days for it to be ready was given a courtesy car to tide me over but not until 2 days after i made the purchase, not a problem though i understand that this is a courtesy service fair point, not entirley sur the car they gave me was road worthy though !!

Picked up my car with the pro pack (seat guard, paint guard headlamp protectors etc) only to be told that they hadn't had any headlamp protectors in stock so i would have to bring my car back at some point to get them fitted.

2 weeks after i had the car a bottle of water leaked on the passenger seat left an awful tide mark/stain. It was only water and the seats where allegedly treated so that any liquid would just wipe off so i returned to reg vardy and was told "oh maybe we didin't put it on properly " so they cleaned it and gave me the drags of an old can and told me to spray it myself when it was dry !!

Still no headlamp protectors !

I've just seen the length of my post and there is so much more to write and i get more and more frustrated with every word but to cut a long story short i have had the car just under a year now my seat is still stained, i still have no headlamp protectors ( get this apparently fiat don't make them to fit proper and that's why !!) I've had to have the exhaust replaced, the front wheels re-aligned, the engine management system looked at and it's still faulty and i wish i'd never bought the bloody thing basically !!

So are they any good ? No definitely not !!! Save your self the trouble and have a bonfire with the couple of grand you would waste with them !!

but apart from that how was the car?..i think i'll go to dixons:)

I'm afraid that there's no such thing as a main dealer who genuinely gives a s**t about the customer. Vardy's are no better or worse than the rest of the blood sucking parasites.The average motorist knows very little about cars and probably less about finance. Customer ignorance is the main reason they can get away with it, and once you've bought one from them you will probably remain at their mercy for servicing and repairs which are both overpriced and overrated.
DONT DO IT.

We've had two used cars from Vardy's, - both were decent cars for the price. But don't buy their warranty/insurance package, - it ties you to having them service the car and they're very expensive, inefficient and couldn't care less about how much inconveniemce they cause you by ordering the wrong parts; and they tell Big Fibs about when the car will be ready for collection after service.

Go to Leeds motor auction and cut out the middle man.

That's where Reg Vardy go for theirs (many a time have I seen the RV transporters leaving fully laden).

Similar threads merged.

A bit off subject but I purchased a car from 'The Pitch' car sales near to Meadowhell 2yrs ago nice friendly people lovely car never a moments problem with it at all, all their cars are inspected by South Yorkshire Trading Standards inspectors and NO I am not employed by them would recommend them.

Reg Vardy, i remember him when he was 'on the buses' on the TV, how come he got into cars?

Originally posted by mojoworking
Just as long as he doesn't get Olive draping herself across the bonnet in bikini! ;)

I thought 'Olive' or the actress who used to play her was a stripper in her younger days which I found interesting.
Car dealerships are great fun as long as you go into them with a sense of humour, in other words if you are aware of some of the tricks they may try to pull and so are watching out for them. Also standing with your arms folded and making the pushy sales staff feeluncomfortable can do a lot for your feeling of staying in control. Just be aware that they are there to make the biggest profit possible to themselves and if you're not sure what you're doing have some-one with you WHO DOES .

We used to get our work vans from Vardys. We used to play a game of guess the exuse when we took them in for service

The fisrt problem was they promised us hire vans when they were in the garage but allways tried to palm silly little citroen saxos off on to us. The exuse was alway the van is out, but in truth there was no hire van.

The look on the face of the service manager was priceless when I dragged him out side and showed him the contence of my van and then asked him to help me put it all in the boot of the saxo.

Then there was the issue of the mechanics, or part changers as we called them.

I went one Saturday afternoon to pick my van up and after waiting twenty minutes they said it was out side. When i tried to move off it was obvious that the rear brake shoe were binding on. so back I went with smoke pouring out of the back wheels, only to be told all the mechanics had gone home and the only thing they could sugest was drive down Penistone road half a mile or so the ring green flag!

My advice to anyone is steer cleer of the place.

I've got a friend who used to work for Vardy's and he said that you should keep clear of them as their prices are ridiculous and their after sales care is atrocious- its completely profit orientated

NoylandandRhodes.com are small but extremely good- will try to find you the car you want if they don't have it in

In fairness, apart from the alloy wheel damage, most of his problems seem to be due to the potentially-suspicious build quality of what should be Renault's flagship model rather than any failing on Reg Vardy's part.


so he went a bought a 54 plate VW Passat instead!


you pretty much put down what i was going to write!!
You cant blame the dealer for a car breaking down. blame the manufacturer. (espescially if its a french car!!!)
Only blame the dealer when it goes T$%ts up and they dont care.
Then learn from your mistake and buy VW/Audi :hihi::hihi:

We only had servicing at Vardys. We found Staff were a bit abrupt and repairs cost a lot. Found a local garage did it cheaper and were more pleasant. We have a specialist vehicle so have to buy from a dealer but we researched the company before we bought from them. We are on our second vehicle from them. I wouldn't buy privately. What makes you think a private seller would always be honest? My father got really done by a private seller.

We only had servicing at Vardys. We found Staff were a bit abrupt and repairs cost a lot.

Got to agree with you there.... when I got my car from there they forgot to do the MOT test so I had to book and go down again.

The following year I decided to book and it took them a month to ring me back to see if i wanted my MOT done.... thats when I took it the local garage and been going there ever since.

There is no need to be facetious, can you keep all these comments to PM's :nono: :nono: :nono:

Olive was lovely in a two bags sort of way BTW :D

Especially if it was 2 Netto bags eh Owdy.. :lol:

*Gets coat*

Hasn't Reg Vardy been bought out by someone else now? Trading as Evans Halshaw. I don't know if they are any better or worse now.

Hasn't Reg Vardy been bought out by someone else now? Trading as Evans Halshaw. I don't know if they are any better or worse now.
you cant polish a turd!

if you've heard the radio adds on their mega brilliant deals its b******* ive just been to see about a new van and after being taken round in circles and baffled with V.A.T figures and APR's they are no better than other dodgey car dealers..what a waste of an afternoon :( :( just for instance the add says any trade in car no matter what condition is worth 1300 quid off a new car,cheeky sods offerd me £100 and its not in bad nick.....
ALL CAR DEALERS,LIE THROUGH THEIR TEETH,,THEY WOULD rip off THEIR DEAR OLD GRANNY,,

Can anyone give me any alternative garages who can do all the computer stuff etc on Renaults (2003 Laguna & Clio especially) but don't charge the same exhorbitant prices as Evans Halshaw (aka Reg Vardy)?

Can anyone give me any alternative garages who can do all the computer stuff etc on Renaults (2003 Laguna & Clio especially) but don't charge the same exhorbitant prices as Evans Halshaw (aka Reg Vardy)?
try front lines - there just off abbeydale road (i think) - they specialise in french cars and have a good reputation.

Bought a car for my son last week from Woodleigh at Chesterfield .
They didnt bother me at all,i spent ages looking round at cars ,i had to go and find the guy that sells the cars and he was fantastic he didnt even try to sell it me nor did he give me a load of Bo***ks.
I got a good deal from him and he threw is some extras + a full tank of petrol .
Not all dealers are shifty buggers.

The trouble with places like Carcraft, Evan Halshaw, Dixons etc is that they blindly buy bulk from the auctions rather than picking and choosing the cream of the crop like a smaller dealer would do.

In the end, they're left with loads of abused ex fleet or annihilated hire cars which cause nothing but grief for their new owners. Once you've parted with your cash though, they have no interest in helping you - no profit in it.......

The trouble with places like Carcraft, Evan Halshaw, Dixons etc is that they blindly buy bulk from the auctions rather than picking and choosing the cream of the crop like a smaller dealer would do.

In the end, they're left with loads of abused ex fleet or annihilated hire cars which cause nothing but grief for their new owners. Once you've parted with your cash though, they have no interest in helping you - no profit in it.......

Unless you want a new car then you’re a bit more restricted,

I looked at a car at Reg Vardy once (and only once - I won't make that mistake again!) - basic model, the screen price was £4999, but by the time he had added on all the "extras" he wanted me to pay for, it was more like £6500. Theiving gits - the sales technique was pushy, and at the point where he added on another £30 for the petrol in the tank, I laughed and walked out. Bunch of idiots.

I went to a really good independent dealer and got the same car, top spec with all the added extras and electrics, a year newer, warranty included, petrol free :roll: and it was perfect from the day I bought it until I traded it for something else a couple of years later (hmm - I can't remember the name - Woodsomething garage in Swinton nr Rotherham!).

Go to an independent place.
x

If you just want cheap then go to direct cars, but be very picky. You can find a bargain down there.

ive also heard some bad things about that "yes car credit" place summat like 28%apr for a bag of crap how do these people get away with it

the entire point of those places is to sell expensive credit , usually to the feckless

My Colleague had her car serviced yesterday 56 plate done 4000 miles cost £200. They then rang her and said air con needed servicing £99 bringing the cost to just over £300. they see her coming and think ££ signs, didnt even wash the car. I took my Mercedes to an independant dealer to repair my air con cost £160 and washed polished and valeted car.

Last week I purchased a Renault Megane Coupe.

I decide to fit a new cam belt (not knowing if prev owner ever changed it)
I take it to local garage for work to be carried out.
On way to garage it breaks down.

Over weekend, I contact Renault (Evans Halshaw)and find my car is subject to a recall, and Renault will change various electrical components etc (such as igntion coil, fuel pipe etc) in car. Ask local garage to do cam belt Mon/Tues and tow to Renault dealer on Eccy road for them to do recall work.
They do so.

On Weds morning, Renault attempt to move car the 20 yards from their yard into workshop.
The car catches fire!

Engine bay melted. Renault blame local garage for not doing their work properly. They say fuel pipe wasnt connected properly.
Local garage blame Evans Halshaw Renault. They say the parts that went up in flames had been highlighted as faulty under the recall!

Thats the latest. Corporate giant vs Local Wicker garage.

Unlucky me caught in middle.

Evans Halshaw refuse to repair the car.
Local garage say the tested car before they took it to E Halshaw, and it was fine.

Oh, this is all two weeks after my prev car was washed away in the flood!!!! :mad: