Hi

We're planning on moving to Sheffield - looking for a 4 bed detached house in a nice area with decent Schools.

Can anyone help?

Thanks x

What kind of Schools? Infant, Junior or Secondary?

Fulwood is a nice area.

Junior and High School.

Originally posted by Clairey
Junior and High School.

Has to be Wales High School, St Marys, Sheefield High School.

Thanks - where are these Schools based?/what are the catchment areas? Does anyone know?

Thanks x

Originally posted by Clairey
Thanks - where are these Schools based?/what are the catchment areas?
Thanks x

Kiveton , Wales, Todwick.
Not too sure about the others but Sheffield High School is private.

Where are you moving from & Why if you don't mind me asking ?

Thinking of moving from Worksop - we moved there from the Midlands 2 years ago, to a lovely suberb within Worksop. However, not impressed with Worksop itself - our work is in Sheffield, but would need to be an area with good Schools.

Would highly recommend Sothall as an area to live.
Crystal Peaks on your doorstep as is the parkway and M1.

Rother valley country park is a 5 min walk away.

However I have only heard bad things about Westfield High School. Can't say for sure about the rest. The kids could get the tram to All Saints High School ( a lot of kids do this ) which may be an option however. The tram runs every 10 mins.

LindseyW could vouch for the above I'm sure!

Originally posted by Clairey
Hi

We're planning on moving to Sheffield - looking for a 4 bed detached house in a nice area with decent Schools.

Can anyone help?

Thanks x

Can you give us an idea of your budget? If you read some of the threads on here you will see that there are many views on where to live in Sheffield and why. However, if we knew how much you were willing to pay then we would be able to more easily identify a suitable area.

For instance, where I live in Walkley £230k would buy you a detached 4 bedded bungalow with 2 bathrooms and its own gym. You could get a similar size property in Handsworth for under £200k or one in Fulwood for over £250k.

Thanks v. much.

We'd be looking at a maximum budget of £230k.

Fulwood, Dore, Totley, Wales etc then

Clairey, I've sent you a pm (private message).

Thanks very much Max.

Just to give you an idea of whats on offer in the S20 (sothall, halfway) area:

Link (http://212.50.188.105/cgi-win/vebra.cgi?details1?src=vebra&PropertyCode=1086007/MORTO/43998/7)

There are others if you look!

Originally posted by Clairey
Hi

We're planning on moving to Sheffield - looking for a 4 bed detached house in a nice area with decent Schools.

Can anyone help?

Thanks x


Definitely Ecclesall. You'd be in catchment for Sheffields best state schools (Silverdale School is reknowned throughout the country for its fantastic results, and Ecclesall Junior School also gets superb results). Ecclesall is also a nice area with plenty of big, traditional houses and greenery. Leafy roads, parks, woods, etc. It is also a family area and crime is low. Ignore any comments to the contrary too - I'm the forum scapegoat you see, and because I live in Ecclesall, the area is receiving pathetic cheap shots from these fools. Do plenty of research separate from this forum as well. For alternatives to Ecclesall (though the schools are no way any where near as good), look at Fulwood and Dore.

For examples of whats on offer in Ecclesall, try:

http://www.reedsrains.co.uk/search_v2/Details.asp?c=0001&r=1580988

http://212.50.188.105/cgi-win/vebra.cgi?details1?src=vebra&PropertyCode=1086002/BENTS/45010/1

http://212.50.188.108/cgi-win/vebra.cgi?details1?src=vebra&PropertyCode=1086002/WOODH/44980/2

http://212.50.188.105/cgi-win/vebra.cgi?details1?src=vebra&PropertyCode=1104002/ECCLE/19486/1

http://212.50.188.105/cgi-win/vebra.cgi?details1?src=vebra&PropertyCode=1104002/THEBU/15487/2

http://srch.hlc-s.co.uk/pages.asp?group=elsh&ref=BA100700&page=template1

http://srch.hlc-s.co.uk/pages.asp?group=elsh&ref=BA100693&page=template1

http://srch.hlc-s.co.uk/pages.asp?group=elsh&ref=BA100682&page=template1

Definitely Ecclesall. You'd be in catchment for Sheffields best state schools (Silverdale School is reknowned throughout the country for its fantastic results

Yep, thats right t020... That's probably the reason why I trek all the way from Intake to Ecclesall 5 days a week! I'm in the 6th form, and they aren't so choosy about catchment areas for years 12 and 13... I don't think I would have stood a chance in getting in for years 7-11... However, saying that, a friend of mine appealed to go to Silverdale in year 7 and came all the way from Nether Edge.

Originally posted by t020
Definitely Ecclesall. You'd be in catchment for Sheffields best state schools (Silverdale School is reknowned throughout the country for its fantastic results, and Ecclesall Junior School also gets superb results). Ecclesall is also a nice area with plenty of big, traditional houses and greenery. Leafy roads, parks, woods, etc. It is also a family area and crime is low. Ignore any comments to the contrary too - I'm the forum scapegoat you see, and because I live in Ecclesall, the area is receiving pathetic cheap shots from these fools. Do plenty of research separate from this forum as well. For alternatives to Ecclesall (though the schools are no way any where near as good), look at Fulwood and Dore.



Ooops you forgotten to mention those nice big windmills .... :thumbsup:

Originally posted by mega_monty
Ooops you forgotten to mention those nice big windmills .... :thumbsup:


Why would I mention windmills that probably won't get built but even if they do, will be situated near to Hathersage (several miles from Ecclesall)????

Originally posted by Clairey
Thanks v. much.

We'd be looking at a maximum budget of £230k.

That's a good budget, but it won't get you a 4B detached in Fulwood, Ecclesall, Dore, Ranmoor any more. It might just get you a 2/3 bed semi.

Around Crystal Peaks is OK, but the schools arent much cop apart from Wales - but that's in the middle of Kiveton which was a total dump when I was last there.

The best senior schools are King Edwards, Silverdale and High Storrs, and the primaries around them are consequently good feeders. Trouble is, youre back to Fulwood, Dore, Eccelsall, etc :(

Try Crookes, that should get you King Edwards, but I'm afraid that it won' tbe a 4B detached for £230k, but it's as cheap as you will find for those schools.

Originally posted by Tony
That's a good budget, but it won't get you a 4B detached in Fulwood, Ecclesall, Dore, Ranmoor any more. It might just get you a 2/3 bed semi.

Tony is right.

I was looking to buy in these areas around 7-8 months ago but didn't allow for the "bidding" process in Sheffield. In London (where I am from) you are lucky to get the asking price as people tend to offer less. Here it's the opposite!

At one point I was bidding on a three bed semi in Totley where offers around £179K (I think) were being invited. I bid up to £230k before giving up... and I suspect it went for quite a bit more!

We ran out of time to buy in the end (had already sold our house) so we decided to rent for a while.

Thanks everyone.

So, apart from the areas that we can't afford, where else is decent-ish in terms of other things, such as nice pubs, restaurants, shops, friendliness, etc? We can cope with a fairly decent School if there's plenty to do in the surrounding area.

You could try something around Burncross / Grenoside / Chapeltown / Ecclesfield (check carefully, some ok some not).

The School is Ecclesfield Comprehensive - not too bad (I went there!)

Crookes or Walkley in the catchment area for Lydgate/Westways and other OK schools. Plenty of good restaurants and pubs.

I'd still say Sothall / Halfway are gonna be a decent bet for the budget you have.
Whirlow / Dore / Fulwood or Ecclessall would be your best bet but they are very pricey.

If it help Sothall was nominated in the national press the best place in England to live recently. Not because it's better than the above mentioned areas (cos if I were honest it's not) but the area is very friendly, family orientated, affordable, quiet, very very low crime, excellent ameneties and public transport, close to countryside and rother valley country park.
The only thing that lets it down is the schools system (senior). The primaries are spot on, however I wouldn't want my kids to go to Westfield (for fear of under achieving). That being said there is still always All Saints School (on the tram route - about 20 mins). A lot of kids choose this option from Sothall / Halfway area.

Have a look in Crystal Peaks estate agents windows and you'll see the prices and homes on offer. You'd easily pick up a 4 bed detached for your budget.

All the best!

Tapton and King Edwards are both good schools (next to each other) in Crosspool,but they have very large and strange catchment areas. Lydgate is one of the feeder schools for Tapton and to get into that you have to live close to it in Crosspool. Other feeders for Tapton are Nether Green, Broomhill and Netherthorpe i think, i will check the others for you. Westways in Crookes is a feeder for King Teds. Both schools have 6th froms too.
House prices in Crookes are not too bad (130-160k for 3bed terrace) but you will be unlikely to find a 4 bed at all never mind detached.
Crosspool is more expensive and again mainly 3 bed semis.
I think (but am not certain)that Tapton is the about same if not better in the league tables than Silverdale. Check them out and see.
My son is at Tapton, and i think Gillies kids are at King Teds. Oh yeah and i work at Tapton (but i am not a teacher).

Yeah Fuzzy. Right on ! Get your kids to King Teds. It is (or rather was ) a top school. Long time since I left. Crosspool, Fulwood, Ranmoor, lovely areas but a stone's throw away. Nicest areas in Sheffield by a mile ! i wouldn't live anywhere else in that city !

Originally posted by fuzzy

I think (but am not certain)that Tapton is the about same if not better in the league tables than Silverdale. Check them out and see.




Definitely wrong. Silverdales pass rates at GCSE for example are 82%. The other good schools like Tapton, Kind Edwards, High Storrs and King Ecgberts are in the 60s and 70%s, which is still much higher than average. Silverdale is the best state school (in terms of results) in Sheffield bar none.

Originally posted by t020
Silverdale is the best state school (in terms of results) in Sheffield bar none.

Well it would be because you went there.

Originally posted by fuzzy
Well it would be because you went there.

I contributed to the results by going there, yes. But the issue of results is a cast iron FACT, not something I can make up just because I attended the school. Check the league tables. The only schools that achieve better results are the private ones such as Birkdale and Sheffield High.

Originally posted by fuzzy
Well it would be because you went there.

Don't worry about it Fuzzy. T020 will be looking for a home in Scuzville when he finally leaves college and gets out here into the real world and realises that a £15k pa Hallam University computer graduate won't buy a tent in Ecclesall.. or Fulwood... or Dore... or anwhere else on that side of town.

Originally posted by Tony
Don't worry about it Fuzzy. T020 will be looking for a home in Scuzville when he finally leaves college and gets out here into the real world and realises that a £15k pa Hallam University computer graduate won't buy a tent in Ecclesall.. or Fulwood... or Dore... or anwhere else on that side of town.

Nah, I'd guess he's going to be a kipper for a long time to come.

Thanks so much for your help.

So, it looks like 'Silverdale', 'Tapton', 'King Edwards', 'High Storrs' and 'King Egberts' are the better Schools - sorry, but I'm just a little confused about catchment areas for these.

Sorry to be a pain, but can someone just re-cap on this.

Thanks x

Catchment areas would be Whirlow / Dore / Fulwood / Ecclesall / Greystones / Hunters Bar / Crookes (I think) / Broomhill / Millhouses / Netheredge (a bit dodgy if you get in the wrong bit).

Hope this helps!

DaBouncer :thumbsup:

Although I HATE to agree with t020, Silverdale is an Excellent school!

To recap, they are basically the areas that are probably out of your budget :(

Here's a more useful suggestion...

Get an A - Z fold out map of sheffield and highlight the schools you like the sound of. Then tell the estate agents that you want to live in the catchment for them, then let them find something for you. Buy a copy of the Sheffield Telegraph on Friday mornings - it has a property guide.

Thanks again!

You've all been a great help.

Originally posted by Tony
To recap, they are basically the areas that are probably out of your budget :(

Here's a more useful suggestion...

Get an A - Z fold out map of sheffield and highlight the schools you like the sound of. Then tell the estate agents that you want to live in the catchment for them, then let them find something for you. Buy a copy of the Sheffield Telegraph on Friday mornings - it has a property guide.
Excellent advice.

I know you'd be able to get a 3 bed semi for the budget you have in at least one of the areas afformentioned. Also you may be able to extend (doubtful tho). However to get a 4 bed detached with your budget.... you'd be very hard pressed unless it was firedamaged or in need of extensive repair.

DB

Catchment for city schools can be confusing, as the way they work generally is a wedge coming out from the city centre.

So catchment for King Egberts includes London Rd/Highfields etc

Catchment for Silverdale includes bottom of Eccy rd;)

You can still get houses for 230k in good areas but it is likely to a 3 bed semi which needs gutting. Some houses at Totley are still reasonably priced.

You could always live at Bakewell/Baslow, good school Lady Manners and commuting distance to Sheffield.

For a secondary school, All Saints, (which is a catholic school near Town)

Maybe Fulwood, wisewood, firth park, Myrtle springs (which are all Non-Catholic) are quite good aswell.

For primary schools there is St Patricks (having going there myself as a child) which is also catholic

There is also Gleadless Valley school, Hatfield, norfolk park school and mansell primary school (which are more or less in the sheffield 5-16 area.

Hope i have helped you.

I think the general advice about catchment areas is correct. However, if you find a house you are interested in, you can check which school catchment area it comes under here (http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/education/education-faqs/catchment-areas).

Originally posted by Mizz Destiny
For a secondary school, All Saints, (which is a catholic school near Town)

Maybe Fulwood, wisewood, firth park, Myrtle springs (which are all Non-Catholic) are quite good aswell.

For primary schools there is St Patricks (having going there myself as a child) which is also catholic

There is also Gleadless Valley school, Hatfield, norfolk park school and mansell primary school (which are more or less in the sheffield 5-16 area.

Hope i have helped you.
Gleadless Valley School no longer exists.
It was knocked down and turned into houses some years ago.

Regards

DB

Originally posted by Tony
Don't worry about it Fuzzy. T020 will be looking for a home in Scuzville when he finally leaves college and gets out here into the real world and realises that a £15k pa Hallam University computer graduate won't buy a tent in Ecclesall.. or Fulwood... or Dore... or anwhere else on that side of town.

Firstly, you know nothing about my situation before you start telling me what I will be and will not be able to afford.

Secondly, how is the quoted post relevant in anyway to Fuzzys argument that I was only saying Silverdale was good because I went there?

Thirdly, I don't see how me advising someone and trying to help them about good schools necessitates your smart arse comments. FACT: Silverdale is the best state school in Sheffield, I have experience of it, and I was helping someone by pointing it out. I also pointed out the other good schools in Sheffield, and the areas to look at when considering them. I don't see why everything has to provoke you to make such pathetic cheap shots when I'm simply trying to help someone out through my own experience of living around here all my life and attending the school in question. Just drop the pathetic comments.

I contributed to the results by going there, yes.

Cool!!! What subjects did you take?

I know this is out of character, but don't all have a go at t020, on this occasion, he is right. As I know myself, the school is excellent and I'm so glad I chose to go there... He is right to advise Clairey to send her kids to Silverdale, I would myself. The one thing that makes me glad I didn't go there from year 7 is the fact that the poor little kiddies get kicked out onto the courtyard in all weathers and usually stand huddled together freezing to death! (I view this from my warm seat in the dining room) 6th form is so cool!

Originally posted by t020
Firstly, you know nothing about my situation before you start telling me what I will be and will not be able to afford.

Firstly. You are indeed fortunate to have family that will help you buy a home without having the income yourself, or a nice little job waiting in the family firm. Well done – you worked hard for it.

And if it’s not that, you’re either just bigging yourself up, or lying.

Originally posted by t020
Secondly, how is the quoted post relevant in anyway to Fuzzys argument that I was only saying Silverdale was good because I went there?

Secondly. It is a very good school. Reread the thread if you want to understand. You just seem to want to big yourself up because you’re fortunate enough to have parents who live in a nice area with good schools. Stop being childish, and just realise that you’re fortunate to be in that position.

Originally posted by t020
Thirdly, I don't see how me advising someone and trying to help them about good schools necessitates your smart arse comments. FACT: Silverdale is the best state school in Sheffield, I have experience of it, and I was helping someone by pointing it out. I also pointed out the other good schools in Sheffield, and the areas to look at when considering them. I don't see why everything has to provoke you to make such pathetic cheap shots when I'm simply trying to help someone out through my own experience of living around here all my life and attending the school in question. Just drop the pathetic comments.

Thirdly. Well this “smart arse” tried to help Clairey with some practical advice, whereas you just plugged Silverdale and how clever you are because of it long after Clairey said that she had a budget that wouldn’t get her a house in the catchments - not much use to her at all. Stop naval gazing and look out of the window at the wider picture sometimes. You love the attention don’t you?

Is there any chance I can call a truce on this subject?

t020: Yes Silverdale is an excellent school. No we don't know about your situation, nor do we care. However your input is gratefully received and am sure it has been helpful to the Original Poster. However t020 the following comment is not really necessary to add when a question of help is sought, it is THIS comment which I feel started the sprial downawards:
Orginally posted by t020
Ignore any comments to the contrary too - I'm the forum scapegoat you see, and because I live in Ecclesall, the area is receiving pathetic cheap shots from these fools.
This was uncalled for especially since no comments had even been made prior you were making assumptions.

Tony: Your input too has been well received. However allowing t020 to get under your skin (in this forum anyway) is probably not the way to contribute to a thread. Especially when it's advice on help which is being sought. I agree with you a lot of the time Tony and value your contributions as I do t020 (sometimes:P ). However please can we stop this jump on t020 in these types of forums. Can we save it for General Chit chat or General Sheffield chat if it has to be done. I know the comments highlighted above were not required, however what's done is done. I chose to ignore them.

Both: I'm not wanting to 'play' forum moderator (since I'm not) however there is a place for these sorts of things (if they have to happen) and this forum is not it (IMO).
I know that if you two choose to carry on this 'debate' within this thread/forum there is nothing I can do.
I am apprealing to both of you to allow this thread/forum to be used for what is was intended. A help forum.

My big nose is now outta here. good luck Clairey!:thumbsup:

Originally posted by t020
I contributed to the results by going there, yes. But the issue of results is a cast iron FACT, not something I can make up just because I attended the school. Check the league tables. The only schools that achieve better results are the private ones such as Birkdale and Sheffield High.

You are both right. Or both wrong depending on how you look at it.
Silverdale is better for GCSE results.
Tapton is better for 'A'/'AS' level results.

Source : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/education/03/school_tables/secondary_schools/html/373_alevel_lea.stm

Nomme

The results can be frigged and should only be used as a guide.

Quote from BBC site above
The GCSE/GNVQ figure is the traditional measure - the percentage of pupils who achieved five or more GCSEs at grades A* to C or their GNVQ equivalents.



Example
School A allows not so bright pupil to enter only 5 exams, pupil gets 5 out of 5 A-C's

School B lets pupil take 10 exams and because of the spread only gets 4 grades at A-C

Not suggesting this is done, but I did hear a certain school restricted exams entered to ensure good results.

Originally posted by DaBouncer
Is there any chance I can call a truce on this subject?

t020: Yes Silverdale is an excellent school. No we don't know about your situation, nor do we care. However your input is gratefully received and am sure it has been helpful to the Original Poster. However t020 the following comment is not really necessary to add when a question of help is sought, it is THIS comment which I feel started the sprial downawards:

This was uncalled for especially since no comments had even been made prior you were making assumptions.

Tony: Your input too has been well received. However allowing t020 to get under your skin (in this forum anyway) is probably not the way to contribute to a thread. Especially when it's advice on help which is being sought. I agree with you a lot of the time Tony and value your contributions as I do t020 (sometimes:P ). However please can we stop this jump on t020 in these types of forums. Can we save it for General Chit chat or General Sheffield chat if it has to be done. I know the comments highlighted above were not required, however what's done is done. I chose to ignore them.

Both: I'm not wanting to 'play' forum moderator (since I'm not) however there is a place for these sorts of things (if they have to happen) and this forum is not it (IMO).
I know that if you two choose to carry on this 'debate' within this thread/forum there is nothing I can do.
I am apprealing to both of you to allow this thread/forum to be used for what is was intended. A help forum.

My big nose is now outta here. good luck Clairey!:thumbsup:


Watch out Kofi Annan. :D I actually apologised to T020 in another thread, but obviously it didn't work :(

I think it's become a bit of a sport now, but DB, you are right. Perhaps I am just missing the Roy James and the BNP, maybe I should look elsewhere for easy meat :thumbsup: I would look pretty stupid getting a ban like T020! :loopy:

Originally posted by Tony
Watch out Kofi Annan. :D I actually apologised to T020 in another thread, but obviously it didn't work :(

I think it's become a bit of a sport now, but DB, you are right. Perhaps I am just missing the Roy James and the BNP, maybe I should look elsewhere for easy meat :thumbsup: I would look pretty stupid getting a ban like T020! :loopy:

Perhaps you could use the wonderful new linking to post system to point out your apology because as far as I'm aware, I haven't read anything of the sort.

DaBouncer - You're right. However, my "pre-emptive" comments were made purely because I knew as soon as I mentioned Ecclesall being a nice area, people would start slating me/it/ insinuating Ecclesall Rd is IN Ecclesall/ generally trying to start an argument.

I think it is probably more suitable to continue any personal dispute like this via the PM system if neccessary.

Closing the thead.