Long time lurker, first time poster.

Please help me, I'm a lost FRESHER!!!!

I'll get straight to the point.

I'm in my first year at University. I live in Exchange Works, Student accomodation. I have 5 Flat mates. I took two gap years working and living alone on London. (I'm from a small town in Wales!) I belive as a person I'm very outgoing, confident and sure of myself. More about me. I'm an ex-model, I do sports for my uni, I have a gorgeous gf, a job in a bar in town, doing university course at sheff uni, a stable family, pretty sweet money situation. Anyway, I'm wondering how to address the situation of my flat mates. (Not saying cos I lived on my own at 18 > 20 I'm invinicble but I lived on my own in London, got a job, paid my own way, made **** loads of friends, climbed my way to the top of alot of social ladders and got alot of independence!)

During freshers I got to know them all, but never really paid much attention to them, as they weren't really my sort of people. By my own judgement they are all geeks. Whilst I would be very happy to go to Gatecrasher, they see it as hell. A place where people are stuck up, looking at each other, beautiful and confident. (Again sweeping generalisation). They are the kind of people who don't go out much anyway, and if they go would prefer to go to the pub. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with this, but they are 18/19 and If I don't want to go to a pub it's cos i'm bored and not cos I am too shy to go.

Anyway alittle about them. One is a physics geek. One is a freaky gothic girl who is just generally weird. One is a computer geek who has the worst social skills I've ever encountered. One is just a very shy very quiet girl, and another is again a quiet girl who enjoys things such as reading, quiet relaxation and chess. (No doubt!). I honestly don't think this is a case of them not liking me as a person, cos I'm often the one trying to strike up conversation. AND I MEAN MINIMAL CONVERSATION. Like who are u, how old r u, where r u from etc etc :P And they just daren't speak... and I know they often leave the kitchen if they think anyone is going in... they like to be alone alot ;o haha

Anyway time has passed and I've gone off and joined clubs, made friends, got a job etc and my flat mates seem to have vanished. I'm sure most of them don't stay in Sheffield, and go home when they can. And I'm sure few of them prefer to stay in their rooms 24/7 and only leave for lectures. I don't see this is a good choice, I see this as poor social and confidence skills.

Anyway, they don't get on with each other. So it's not like it's me against them. It's gotten to a point where I really wish I could get to know them alittle better or at least get to a stage where I could dicuss flat issues such as tidyness etc etc (Don't need to discuss loud noise or friends :P cos they don't have any!)

I just feel like pherhaps I scare them ? Or imtimidate them ? Should I leave them alone ? How do I get them to interact with the flat or me more ? How can I get them to communicate.

I'm sure there's some REALLY shy people on this board, so don't hold back give me some advice on what to do. I don't want to be arsey with them, but I think these people are.. odd!

And before you ask, I'm not talking about quiet people I'm talking about EXTREMELY QUIET PEOPLE. I promise, in 3 weeks I have only seen one flat mate. I imagine the others stay in their rooms. How can this be a good way to live ? I'm not looking to change their lifestyle, just ideas to put them at ease with me and the flat. They don't dare use the kitchen... grrr

Help?

(I'm not dissing this board or the people on it at all I promise, since I came to Sheffield I always check this out at least once or twice a week!)

We're having a party at your place on Satuday then are we? ;)

Welcome to the forum (properly) :wave:

Read your posting with interest. May I suggest:

First Maybe your flatmates realise you think them geeks

Second Maybe they just like their own company

Third Maybe they don't like you and would prefer you to ignore them.
Some people are too polite to be obnoxious.

You don't get on with the people you live with. Let Madame Deavon read the cards and take a look at what might be wrong here.

First there's you:

Originally posted by Rentaknight
I belive as a person I'm very outgoing, confident and sure of myself. More about me. I'm an ex-model, I do sports for my uni, I have a gorgeous gf, a job in a bar in town, doing university course at sheff uni, a stable family, pretty sweet money situation. ...made **** loads of friends, climbed my way to the top of alot of social ladders...

Then there's your housemates:

Originally posted by Rentaknight
Anyway alittle about them. One is a physics geek. One is a freaky gothic girl who is just generally weird. One is a computer geek who has the worst social skills I've ever encountered. One is just a very shy very quiet girl, and another is again a quiet girl who enjoys things such as reading, quiet relaxation and chess. (No doubt!). I honestly don't think this is a case of them not liking me as a person, cos I'm often the one trying to strike up conversation. AND I MEAN MINIMAL CONVERSATION. Like who are u, how old r u, where r u from etc etc :P And they just daren't speak... and I know they often leave the kitchen if they think anyone is going in... they like to be alone alot ;o haha

(they all sound lovely by the way... I'll bet they are v. v. interesting)

Then there's your answer to your own question:

Originally posted by Rentaknight
During freshers I got to know them all, but never really paid much attention to them, as they weren't really my sort of people.

I think you may need to come off that pedestal of yours and give them a chance or two.

(with the greatest respect... you "social ladder" climber, you!)

Originally posted by nanrobbo
Read your posting with interest. May I suggest:

First Maybe your flatmates realise you think them geeks

Second Maybe they just like their own company

Third Maybe they don't like you and would prefer you to ignore them.
Some people are too polite to be obnoxious.

Sorry I got more mad with your posting
I should have said "Some people are too polite to be rude to an obnoxious jumped up nowt."

In a nut shell Deavon :D

While I can sympathise with the fact that you and your flatmates are like chalk and cheese (lucky me eh, my flatmates and me are all best buddies), you don't seem to have even bothered to get to know them anyway - I'm a really outgoing party type, but my best friend hates clubbing and is a stay-at-home type. You sound like a bit of snob to me, and some sort of trendy who hasn't got the time of day for anyone but the 'beautiful' people at Gatecrasher - would you not bother to make friends with someone because they were unnattractive? Maybe your flatmates have been avoiding you because you're stuck up and narrow minded, and they'd rather talk to someone a bit more...interesting?

Rentaknight... Assuming that your post isn't a subtle form of humour and that therefore you probably appear as 'full of yourself' to your flatmates as you do to me, in their situation, I'd be doing exactly what they seem to be doing, i.e. avoiding you like the plague! ;)

Deavon, very well put and just what i was thinking. Rentaknight, your post said it all i'm afraid and starting off hwo great you are sends out the wrong message mate.

Just putting on my Dwayne Dibbley costume and checking my Professor Frink ineptitude here....

Yep...that's better...now socially inept enough.

If you consider your flatmates geeks it's quite likely that they know that. Most folks don't like being thought of like that.

It's their lives; as long as they pay their share of the rent what's the problem? If you don't like their company, leave and find a flat with beautiful non-geeks who share your outlook.

Your two years 'gap' didn't appear to instill you with a degree of tolerance for people different in age and outlook to yourself - that two years is a big two years - the difference between a 22 year old and a 20 year old can be great.

You come over here as snobbish and superior; perhaps this is how your flatmates see you. Perhaps a genuine attempt at friendship and humility on your part might help. Your flatmates sound a darn sight more interesting than you are - they seem to have individuality and self-confidence to be themselves.

Sorry to sound so harsh, but you did ask for help from u socially inept people.... ;)

Joe

Well......... It takes all sorts.

Icluding pretentious and "geeks".

Your post doesn't come across very well, maybe you mean well as that seems to be your intention, but not everyone thinks pubs and gatecrasher are the best thing since sliced bread. Who is to say you are right and they are wrong. Maybe they are not shy or maybe they are.
If they are maybe they like being that way and you will have to accept that, it probably isn't your job to "integrate" them.

My advice would be to leave them be, stop worrying about them and if you really can't stand the way they are look to move somewhere else.

The title of this thread says it all - you regard your flatmates as socially inept.

Clearly, as you regard yourself as superior to them in every way, there appears to be only one solution to your perceived problem. Move out!

Happy relocation! :wave:

I agree, if you don't get on with your housemates then you are probably in the wrong place.
So get yourself a new place with people more like you and everything should sort itself out.
I have shared quite a few student accommodations in my time (well I'm not that old really) and most of the time I had a smashing time but there were a couple of times when my personality clashed with others and that's when I decided to sling my hook and find somewhere else to live rather than become unpleasant to people.
I advise you to do the same if you're not happy.
Happy househunting...
:)

Originally posted by Rentaknight
Long time lurker, first time poster.

Please help me, I'm a lost FRESHER!!!!

I'll get straight to the point.

I'm in my first year at University. I live in Exchange Works, Student accomodation. I have 5 Flat mates. I took two gap years working and living alone on London. (I'm from a small town in Wales!) I belive as a person I'm very outgoing, confident and sure of myself. More about me. I'm an ex-model, I do sports for my uni, I have a gorgeous gf, a job in a bar in town, doing university course at sheff uni, a stable family, pretty sweet money situation. Anyway, I'm wondering how to address the situation of my flat mates. (Not saying cos I lived on my own at 18 > 20 I'm invinicble but I lived on my own in London, got a job, paid my own way, made **** loads of friends, climbed my way to the top of alot of social ladders and got alot of independence!)

During freshers I got to know them all, but never really paid much attention to them, as they weren't really my sort of people. By my own judgement they are all geeks. Whilst I would be very happy to go to Gatecrasher, they see it as hell. A place where people are stuck up, looking at each other, beautiful and confident. (Again sweeping generalisation). They are the kind of people who don't go out much anyway, and if they go would prefer to go to the pub. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with this, but they are 18/19 and If I don't want to go to a pub it's cos i'm bored and not cos I am too shy to go.

Anyway alittle about them. One is a physics geek. One is a freaky gothic girl who is just generally weird. One is a computer geek who has the worst social skills I've ever encountered. One is just a very shy very quiet girl, and another is again a quiet girl who enjoys things such as reading, quiet relaxation and chess. (No doubt!). I honestly don't think this is a case of them not liking me as a person, cos I'm often the one trying to strike up conversation. AND I MEAN MINIMAL CONVERSATION. Like who are u, how old r u, where r u from etc etc :P And they just daren't speak... and I know they often leave the kitchen if they think anyone is going in... they like to be alone alot ;o haha

Anyway time has passed and I've gone off and joined clubs, made friends, got a job etc and my flat mates seem to have vanished. I'm sure most of them don't stay in Sheffield, and go home when they can. And I'm sure few of them prefer to stay in their rooms 24/7 and only leave for lectures. I don't see this is a good choice, I see this as poor social and confidence skills.

Anyway, they don't get on with each other. So it's not like it's me against them. It's gotten to a point where I really wish I could get to know them alittle better or at least get to a stage where I could dicuss flat issues such as tidyness etc etc (Don't need to discuss loud noise or friends :P cos they don't have any!)

I just feel like pherhaps I scare them ? Or imtimidate them ? Should I leave them alone ? How do I get them to interact with the flat or me more ? How can I get them to communicate.

I'm sure there's some REALLY shy people on this board, so don't hold back give me some advice on what to do. I don't want to be arsey with them, but I think these people are.. odd!

And before you ask, I'm not talking about quiet people I'm talking about EXTREMELY QUIET PEOPLE. I promise, in 3 weeks I have only seen one flat mate. I imagine the others stay in their rooms. How can this be a good way to live ? I'm not looking to change their lifestyle, just ideas to put them at ease with me and the flat. They don't dare use the kitchen... grrr

Help?

(I'm not dissing this board or the people on it at all I promise, since I came to Sheffield I always check this out at least once or twice a week!)


this post is a wind up... right??? its got to be. dont think iv ever met anyone so far up there own a..e

I am surprised that you can see what your flat mates are like with you being so far up your own back side.

I think Id rather live with them than live with you. You sound like a stuck up, loves himsef cock to me.

I'd just let things be and more importantly, let them be. There's nothing wrong with being a "geek", and there's no law that says people have to go clubbing.

I'm a university research associate and I'd describe myself as a "geek". I'm happy being a geek though, and it's my right to be that way. I'm also a bit of a standoff-ish person, but I'm also happy being that way. Some people like their own company.

Also, there's no rule that says you have to become good friends with your flatmates. Myself and my flatmate chat, but aren't particularly close, and we generally both do our own thing. We respect each others space though, don't make excessive noise, keep the flat tidy and pay our equal share of the bills. That's enough for me. :)

You live in a flat with quiet people who you rarely see and who don't use the kitchen?

Enjoy the experiece as in future years you'll look back on that time of peace and quiet and wonder what you were complaining about.

This is my favouite bit:

climbed my way to the top of alot of social ladders and got alot of independence!)

surely this is a wind up

You will seem very confident and "grown up" after havong had 2 years on your own out of the education environment. Your flat mates have all come straight from 6th form or college. They are probably quite happy to live quiet lives, and do not need to join your lifestyle in order to be happy.

If it really bugs you, then move out. However, if everyone is playing the game and paying the rent & doing the housework etc. then I cant see a problem. Let them know you are friendly & approachable and leave them be. Some people need months to feel confident enough to talk to someone they dont know well.

You would have something to compain about if they had wild noisy parties and left the kitchen in a mess or nicked all your food!

You never know - they could be right little ravers on the quiet, and consider you not good enough to join them!!

Originally posted by rocketpig


surely this is a wind up

Has to be. Jordan and Peter perhaps? Nobody could possibly post a thread like this accusing others of being socially inept, could they?

It has to be a wind-up Rocketpig . Look what they thought of Gatecrasher?



Originally posted by Rentaknight
[ Whilst I would be very happy to go to Gatecrasher, they see it as hell. A place where people are stuck up, looking at each other, beautiful and confident. (Again sweeping generalisation). .
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I love this post. I can't stop laughing.

But if this is a real post thank god I never had to live with him. Doubt if I could leave my room either without sniggering at the sight of gods gift to flatmates.

If you never see these people, maybe they are not hiding in there room, maybe they are out visiting other like minded people (or geeks as you would say) maybe they are having a great time 'climbing the geek social ladder' and not being socially inept at all!

Just because these people like different things from you, and don't come running up to see you everytime you get into the flat, doesnt mean they need your help! :rolleyes:

Maybe these "geeks" just don't like big-headed Welsh idiots. I bet this lad is the type that speaks just to hear his own voice.

I'm guessing after reading all of these responses rentaknight may remain a lurker...

I'm sure hoping so! I'm not sure the forum is the place for "beautiful people" good at "climbing ladders" - except for kirky maybe!

well what can I say.

On the off chance you aren't a fool and are generally asking for advise I'll give you this.

if you want to get to know them. look at their interests and take an interest in them.

if someone likes chess ask them for a game for instance.

they probably say the same thing about you behind your back you know

Easy everyone, it's obviously not easy being the only Beautiful Person in the village...

:heyhey:

....why don't you just look round for a house with flat-mates who will be more to your taste, and move? Seems obvious to me!

:thumbsup:

Hope this is wind up. But if not, like everyone else that's posted if I shared a flat with you I think I'd avoid you too.

To save time and space I shall summarise this thread as thus:

rentaknight speaks - the world (SF anyway) replies:

"Shut up and take your head out of your arse!"

Please tell me if I've got this wrong!

Rentaknight.....here's a possible clue!

Perhaps they realise they're going to spend some time paying back their Uni fees? This may be an alien concept to you and I'll allow for you being Welsh...but maybe they're...um...studying? :confused:

The only one who sounds "socially inept" is YOU. A socially ept [or should I say 'sociable'?] person would have little or no difficulty striking up a conversation with someone who's very different to themselves. Furthermore a polite person wouldn't dare to judge and criticise them as you have done in your post.

They see Gatecrasher as some sort of hell? Well I absolutely agree with them 100%. If that makes me "socially inept" by your erroneous standards then I wear that little badge with pride.

The housemates of which you speak sound like a good bunch. Totally different to me, but then again that sort of thing doesn't scare me.

I must add that I found the whole tone of your post to be rather offensive and unpalatable. Without wishing to resort to stereotyping [as you did] I'd like to remark that you sound like a bit of a "sadcake" to me. Your head appears to be so deep inside your own small cavity.

As for you saying that you made "**** loads of friends" in London I can only remark that you've probably made very few here. As for the comment about being a 'social ladder' climber it's absolutely laughable. Pssst.... has nobody ever told you.... if you're important enough you don't have to climb....

What a snotty little sadcake. You don't by chance study Management do you?

After reading the original post again I have come to a conclusion.

He is a self confessed lurker.
He has posted some derogatory comments about housemates who will not socialise with him.

It seems to me that he lacks self confidence! It's a common symptom to knock someone else in order to bolster your own self confidence. I think the flatmates sound very self assured and don't need to seek approval whereas he feels a need to tell us about being an ex model etc. etc. How he loves gatecrasher. Hoping and assuming it will impress.
It might be interesting to know how many other people on the forum have done a stint of modelling, gone clubbing, travelled the world etc. As lets face it lots have.

It tends to look like someone who doesn't actually know what they really like just go along with what they think others like in order to "climb social ladders".

He obviously needs attention to make him feel good as "just being" he feels he isn't impressive. Also there is a little bit of "need to be needed" there too. Where the truth is that the housemates don't seem to need him.

I tend to sympathise with Rent-a Knight [?]

At college , I came across such people as his housemates . People who wouldn't even say , 'Hello ' or , 'Good morning " . People who didn't know how to decline or accept an invitation gracefully or politely .
You don't have to be a Debutante in modern Britain to get on socially but surely a smile or a greeting is not too much to ask . You often find the unsociable ones , later , asking , why no-one talks to them . Perhaps they've spent so much time in front of computers ........etc......that they 've forgotten how to communicate with real people . Even if they don't want to go clubbing with Rent-a Knight , they could at least be pleasant about it !

Rentanight:

I think you have several wonderful opportunities, to gain from your current situation, you lucky lucky person!

Fisrtly - Introspection:

You have the opportunity for introspection, to full examine yourself and to look inside, and take note of the cause-effect relationship, between how you are behaving (including your attitudes towards others) and the results you're getting (how other people are in turn, responding to you).

Secondly - Sharing Interests:

You have the opportunity to share interests, and perspectives, with a group of people who seem to have a radically different view on life (and the meaning of success) to your own. How wonderful is that? It may also lead to a change in your own perspectives, which may be something you hadn't expected, and may well be very good for you.

Thirdly - Helping Your Flat Mates Develop 'Social Skills':

The challenge of coaxing your flat mates out of their tiny shells. I mean actually befriending them, and getting to know them and their individual circumstances and requirements. Then helping them to flourish socially. Maybe even letting them in to your wonderful world, assuming they'd like to come in of course.

Fourth - Meeting Kinky Goth Chicks:

Errrrrr, quickly moving on ...



To be honest Rentanight, you sound a little self-superiour. That is never going to help you make friends with anyone but other vain and superficial people. If that's what you want, I would suggest you continue as you are. If you really want to change things for yourself, your current situation may afford you the opportunity to see life in a different light.

Good luck!



ps. Geeks RULE baby :P

I think they must all hate him and meet secretly (while he is out being beautiful and popular) and have amazing flat parties together without him.

Rentaknight.....

I think you should leave them alone. If you are worried about the tidyness of the flat, stick up a rota somewhere they will all see it (the fridge). However if they never use the kitchen, I doubt the place will be a mess?

If you really want to be kind to them, move to another flat (must be a spare room somewhere).

Timid and shy people will obviously become more withdrawn when confronted with such an outgoing (ex model) like yourself.

Good luck.

What are you on about?

Gatecrasher is hell on earth.

I hadn't noticed he was an ex-model.... am I supposed to be impressed by that? I'd be more impressed if you sought proper employment young man.

Originally posted by JonJParr
I hadn't noticed he was an ex-model.... am I supposed to be impressed by that? I'd be more impressed if you sought proper employment young man.

:lol:

What's wrong with being a student? :suspect:

Originally posted by spicey
:lol:

What's wrong with being a student? :suspect:

Absolutely nothing.... I used to be one myself. I was referring more to his escapades infront of the lens.

lol, bet you didn't expect replies like these! Mind you it would have been a gross misjudgement posting about geeks on Sheffield Forum! Most of the people on here only live because of this Forum..!

Originally posted by JonJParr
Absolutely nothing.... I used to be one myself. I was referring more to his escapades infront of the lens.

Must be the reason for his "God's Gift" attitude.

RentaKnight, theres nothing special about being a model, any guy who works out at the gym for a bit and slaps on a bit of powder can do it.

Hello Rentaknight :wave:

Are you reading all this stuff? Where have you got to? What you reckon to all that's been said?

Defend yourself good sir knight!

Chicken Monkey x

I think you're all being fairly harsh on Rentanight. I think he's more concerned that his flatmates are unhappy rather than criticising them for being less sociable than him.

I don't mind telling you that during my years at uni, I never really spent time trying to get to know my flatmates. It wasn't because I didn't want to, it was just because I'm a shy person and it takes a lot of time to get to know me properly. I never really mixed well with any of my flat mates during my first and third years because they weren't the sort of people I like to mix with. During my 3rd year, I can only remember speaking to any of them a few time during the whole year! Although this didn't concern me too much, I was aware that I probably seemed fairly rude. My friends were mainly people on my course, and when I wasn't at uni during the day, I would spend most of the time in my room.

I think if you really want to get to know your flatmates better, you should simply say a quick hello when you see them, work it up to a 'hows your day been' and go from there. Don't be over-confident or it will scare them off and probably make them avoid you all the more. If you just make occasional small-talk, eventually they may open up a bit more and be more confident. If that happens, don't try and force them into doing things they don't want to do, i.e. going to Gatecrasher, otherwise you'll scare them off again.

I have to agree with you Sidla, people are being unfairly harsh with Rentaknight, without knowing the details of what's going on, or his motivation for posting here.

I think it is a fair comment though, that he does come across as a little self-superiour in his post, however, that doesn't mean he is.

He could try just being easy and natural with them, don't try too hard though.

Yeah, and what's this 'Social Ladder' he mentions? I didn't know there was one.

:p

lol, bet you didn't expect replies like these!

Actually, I did. Although I had hoped people would restrain themselves a little more. If I were to pass judgement, which of course would put me down in your collective estimation even more so, I'd say you hate "my kind". I wasn't boasting about how great I am, just trying to put you in the picture, giving you all the facts, telling you what sort of person I am, a snap-shot of my life.. without a bit about me, I don't think any advice regarding my situation would have been very helpful. If I had just said "I'm a normal average run of the mill bloke" I bet your advice would of been VERY different. Ie. "Awww hunny don't beat yourself up about it, I'm sure it's their fault or their busy etc etc". It was running the risk of all this abuse but I felt it needed to go with the story.

Are you reading all this stuff? Where have you got to? What you reckon to all that's been said?

I am reading it all. Reading the actual posts containing advice carefully, and just skimming the abusive "You sound like a stuck up dick, no wonder they don't want to be your friend". Which is missing the point, I feel. Seeing as they aren't friends with each other, and have made zero effort to even be socialible in the first place. One guy didn't even initiate conversation the first time I met him. It's been the same way since. This baffles me. He came into the hallway and I said "Hi, I'm Andy" and he was like "Hi" and walked past me. I followed him into the kitchen and asked, cheerfully, how he was, how he was finding freshers, what course and he just gave one word answers. I'm not saying I can handle everybody, but I do ALOT of promoting, organising for groups, charity work (my brother is disabled), I help with my course night outs etc. I deal with alot of people on a regular basis, and none are this abrasive. I'm sorry but, the guy was extremely nervous, and his only responce was to be deadly silent and hope I go away.

As for you saying that you made "**** loads of friends" in London I can only remark that you've probably made very few here.

Like I said, I have friends on my course (I'm our course student rep, I got voted it!), I'm on TWO sports teams, in a few groups, I have friends at my barjob in town, friends from home. I don't want to be, take this phrase with a pinch of salt, BEST MATES with my flat-mates, I'd just like to be able to have a normal conversation and not be greeted by a wall of silence.

Most of the replies are stuck like a broken record, hung up on the idea that they have met me, evaluated me and decided not to talk to me cos I'm a moron/up my own arse/not their type. It's not like that. I've been super nice. They are just embarassingly boring/shy/imtimidated. In another word, IMPOSSIBLE. I mean just today, my mate came over to chill. I had very loud music on my headphones and wasn't expecting him so soon. My room is at the very end of the corridoor. I know most of them are in cos (Long explaination but I just do), and he was basically banging LOUD for about 25 mins! And none of them answered the door. I mean, C'mon! It's a door, it could be anyone. Sure it's not for them and it's "un-neccersary human contact" (LOL) but just... jeeeez!!!!! Hard to explain but this behavior isn't normal. I hear a door bang, and much more, when I hear it bang for more than 5 minutes if it's for me or not, I answer it.

I think you're all being fairly harsh on Rentanight. I think he's more concerned that his flatmates are unhappy rather than criticising them for being less sociable than him.

I wish I knew how to highlight text. That is my core feeling. I am concerned about them. I'm not saying "They are rubbish flat mates, help me bitch about them, people are geeks rah rah rah". I'm saying exactly that, that I'm concerned about them, and if I can be the one to get them all together, through my insight or effort then that's all I want. I don't want to change them, I was just appealing for insight or suggestions.

If I'm right, and these people in my flat are the same, as the people on this fourm, no wonder they aren't making any effort. You're all too goddam weird. (And that's being poliete about it!) So maybe I was asking for abuse, but yes, this is what I wanted. The honest view from the exact type of people I'm dealing with in my flat.

So go ahead, bitch at me, do you lot do any other tricks ? But if everyone made some bloody effort, rather than sitting in their rooms on their pc's the would would be a step better, for everyone.

Thanks to Sidla, probably the most helpful and... (drumroll) honest reply here. Actually just reaffirmed what I think is there biggest problem. If it can't be helped it can't be helped, but sorry for trying.

I think you should leave them alone. If you are worried about the tidyness of the flat, stick up a rota somewhere they will all see it (the fridge). However if they never use the kitchen, I doubt the place will be a mess?

Considering I have hardly communicated with them at all, I hardly think, putting up a rota on the fridge is the best way at reducing tension. "Hi, I know you don't know me, and I haven't dicussed this with anyone, but how about you all follow my rota". Be nice to just CHAT to them all about this sort of stuff.. I haven't got enough post-its left to put them about everywhere.

Anyway, let's see if this train-weak of a thread has any life left in it! Stop missing the point and play devil's advocate! Give me some advice, telling me how you think they're feeling.. rather than just saying "OMG GIVE UP PPL R DIFRENT LOL" and as a footnote adding "I bet you're a dick".

I wonder if the flat mates also read/post on the forum and recognise themselves from their 'descriptions'. Could describe a few people I know...physics geeks, computer geeks, weird goth girls - yup, yup and yup...
Did it really need all that typing just to say 'I don't understand my flatmates?'
Welcome to the world - people are different. Look to your own life, let others live their's, if no one is gettng hurt then everyone's a winner. I'm sure if they need your help/experience of the world/social 'skills' or just a dose of supreme ego they will ask!

Another dart missing the board completely..

+ + Advice
- - cheap digs at me that get you, me and this thread nowhere

Welcome to the world - people are different.

Yes, I know. I'm trying to get some insight into how people different to me think. Sorry but if I'm going to be personal about it, which you all have anyway. (And I'm only doing this to highlight my point!) I pressed "Search" on your name. And on the first page alone (I didn't look furthur) you had one thread saying you like to live alone, you post on a singles thread for dates on the internet, and you listed ur hobbies as "books, t'internet". I'm don't feel like i'm dealing with well rounded people here! :heyhey:

Oh dear, Rentaknight.....

I wasn't going to post on this thread cos I thought you were getting enough of a hard time already from everyone else.

But really - after your reply showing you clearly haven't taken any of the advice suggested to you on board, I have to ask why did you bother posting if you weren't going to listen to a word of what people said to you? There are a lot of highly intelligent, socially skilled, professionally successful people on this Forum, so there is no need for you to feel yourself to be superior. Your attitude is just making people laugh at you.

Your attitude of "I'm the great I am" may work in London, where many of the people you met were probably equally shallow and easily impressed by unimportant things, but this is Sheffield, and you'll find people are more REAL here. Pretentious airs and graces don't go down too well. What you are like as a person is generally FAR more important when making friends than who you know/how much money you have to throw around, etc.

I can only repeat what has already been said - if you so despair of your flat-mates, for goodness sake move. If you're so unhappy there, you're not doing yourself or anyone else any good by staying. I'm sure you can find accommodation with people more to your liking, even in Sheffield.

In the meantime, if your flat-mates want to socialise with you, they will. If not, you can't bully them into it.

Hope you find what you're looking for.

StarSparkle

PS Most people can sense when they're being looked down on and really resent it - if you tried changing your attitude a bit, you might find your flat-mates made more of an effort towards you. Just a thought......

They don't make an effort towards life, let alone people.

THIS REPLY REFERS TO A POST STARSPARKLE MADE. It does not reflect my opinion on the entire fourm "AS A WHOLE".

you so despair of your flat-mates, for goodness sake move. If you're so unhappy there, you're not doing yourself or anyone else any good by staying.

You guys are driving me nuts, I don't "DISPAIR" of my flat mates. I love my flat, I love my life. . These internet fourms are INSANE! It's impossible to have ANY kind of emotional or indepth dicussion at all, without people taking it the wrong way. DID I MENTION FOR ONE MOMENT I WAS UNHAPPY EITHER? I couldn't care less, I haven't even thought about them for 3 weeks. I just came in the other day and thought jeeeeez I wonder where they are, pherhaps I should make some effort, I know I'll get some advice from the GEEK PATROL FIRST! lol

YOU ARE MISSING FUNDEMENTAL POINTS NECCERSARY FOR THE FUNCTION OF THIS THREAD.

Originally posted by Rentaknight
They don't make an effort towards life, let alone people.

That's their choice, Rentaknight - no-one else can force them into making an effort if they don't want to.

Perhaps you should concentrate on making your own life more pleasant for yourself? Seriously, if your flat-mates are totally incompatible with you, you would be a lot better off finding more like-minded people to share with. Your current arrangement doesn't sound like it's working for you.

StarSparkle

RK- That's probably because we're not necessarily as clever as you are........

Come on RentaKnight, look back at your first post, if you really can't see the arogance shining through then maybe WE should despair.

Maybe if you had been a lot nicer about the whole thing rather than putting down your flatmates and "bigging" yourself up, people on here would have been sympathetic. I can see where you are coming from having lived with a variety of people over the years but I really don't think you asked for advice in the best manner.

Originally posted by Rentaknight
THIS REPLY REFERS TO A POST STARSPARKLE MADE. It does not reflect my opinion on the entire fourm "AS A WHOLE".



You guys are driving me nuts, I don't "DISPAIR" of my flat mates. I love my flat, I love my life. These internet fourms are INSANE! It's impossible to have ANY kind of emotional or indepth dicussion at all, without people taking it the wrong way. DID I MENTION FOR ONE MOMENT I WAS UNHAPPY EITHER? I couldn't care less, I haven't even thought about them for 3 weeks. I just came in the other day and thought jeeeeez I wonder where they are, pherhaps I should make some effort, I know I'll get some advice from the GEEK PATROL FIRST! lol

YOU ARE MISSING FUNDEMENTAL POINTS NECCERSARY FOR THE FUNCTION OF THIS THREAD.

Gosh ! What a rant ................Try being a little more contrite Rentaknight.............works wonders sometimes....

Depends on what you consider to be well-rounded. As I said, people are different and you're making attacks on people's life-choices in a public forum so what do you expect in return? People will defend themselves and they will defend other people's rights to live their lives how they want to do so.

Yes, I like to live alone. I'm comfortable being alone a lot of the time as I'm happy with myself and don't feel the need to constantly fill some kind of personality void with pointless conversation with people that don't interest me. Sound like your flatmates??

I also have friends, a boyfriend (tho singles threads are a good excuse to talk about ME, ME, ME - maybe you should try it?) and a social life (gosh, lucky me!). No Gatecrasher tho. Phew.

*Waits for the 'lady doth protest too much when trying to justify her existence and "fun" lifestyle' backlash*

Originally posted by Rentaknight




If I'm right, and these people in my flat are the same, as the people on this fourm, no wonder they aren't making any effort. You're all too goddam weird. (And that's being poliete about it!) So maybe I was asking for abuse, but yes, this is what I wanted. The honest view from the exact type of people I'm dealing with in my flat.


Anyway, let's see if this train-weak of a thread has any life left in it! Stop missing the point and play devil's advocate! Give me some advice, telling me how you think they're feeling.. rather than just saying "OMG GIVE UP PPL R DIFRENT LOL" and as a footnote adding "I bet you're a dick".

The last paragraph is a little contradictory. I would have thought that people have been playing devils advocate by trying to explain to you how your flatmates may be feeling.

You don't need to be a "geek" to work it out. Just a little common sense and humility. Why do you feel that you are so different form anyone else on this forum and that everyone on here is "too goddam wierd"? Welcome to the forum, you seem to be a posting member. Along with oooh how many others to date. Surely Sheffield is not full of complete nerds with no life in them? If it is, how come you have managed to make some friends whom you seem to like? By your estimation/generalisation Sheffield must have a very high percentage of nerds/geeks. I for one beg to differ. If you are right.........time to change your Uni I think.
You gave us some hints as to what kind of person you are with a very basic profile to go on (fair enough). That is all we have to go on. You have nothing about us to go on but hastily make a generalisation.

Your concern for them is slightly tainted by the manner in which you posted and it's my guess that you wish you had phrased it better.

Plenty of Gatecrasher go-ers here : http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=1076278&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending

Maybe they don't fit your bill though as they must all be "goddam wierd"

the advice I gave you before is all you need to know.

you have to take an interest in their interests. You can't expect them to like what you like. You may think something is sad or pathetic but if you want to be friendlier with the you have to .


and Gatecrasher is hell on earth :)

Here ya go Rentaknight, every important point you've made answered right here:

I belive as a person I'm very outgoing, confident and sure of myself

Maybe they clam up around you (or other people) because they are shy. I'm shy. I clam up around 'very outgoing, confident and sure of [themselves]' people, and I'm 26 bought the uni t-shirt and worked for the last five years in massive organisations full of people like that. God knows what it must be like for people straight outta school and away from home for the first time. I remember what it was like for me.

Advice: Dial it down. A lot.

made **** loads of friends, climbed my way to the top of alot of social ladders and got alot of independence

So...go see them. There isn't a law stating that everyone must make millions of new friends every day. And remember, as someone has already said the important people don't need to climb that ladder.....


but never really paid much attention to them

So, having not paid them much attention, you now want them to pay attention to you?

Advice: This was a bad move if your aim is to make friends with them. You may not be able to recover.

Gatecrasher, they see it as hell. A place where people are stuck up, looking at each other, beautiful and confident.

Not everyone likes Gatecrasher. I hate the place. With a quite violent passion to be honest

Advice: Get over it.

One is a physics geek. One is a freaky gothic girl who is just generally weird. One is a computer geek who has the worst social skills I've ever encountered. One is just a very shy very quiet girl, and another is again a quiet girl who enjoys things such as reading, quiet relaxation and chess. (No doubt!). I honestly don't think this is a case of them not liking me as a person, cos I'm often the one trying to strike up conversation. AND I MEAN MINIMAL CONVERSATION. Like who are u, how old r u, where r u from etc etc And they just daren't speak... and I know they often leave the kitchen if they think anyone is going in... they like to be alone alot ;o haha

If I knew you were talking about me in this way, I wouldn't want to know you either to be honest. You chastise them earlier in your OP about making generalisations and yet here you are...making generalisations.

Advice: Don't throw stones when you're kipping in a greenhouse.

I'm sure most of them don't stay in Sheffield, and go home when they can. And I'm sure few of them prefer to stay in their rooms 24/7 and only leave for lectures. I don't see this is a good choice, I see this as poor social and confidence skills.

Maybe they have friends back home (like you do) and prefer to spend time with them. Maybe they are studying in their rooms. You are, after all READING for a degree.

Advice: Let them do their thing. It's their life, not yours.

I'm sorry but, the guy was extremely nervous, and his only responce was to be deadly silent and hope I go away.

Advice: Remember, you do NOT have to solve the worlds problems. Even you, as outgoing and adventurous and no doubt beautiful and witty and funny (blah blah blah blah) as you are, aren't going to be friendly with every single person you meet. Why the need to turn these ducklings in to swans? Maybe they like their life just the way it is thank you very much.

I do ALOT of promoting, organising for groups, charity work (my brother is disabled), I help with my course night outs etc

(I'm our course student rep, I got voted it!), I'm on TWO sports teams, in a few groups

I have to admit, the super-keen people who joined all the clubs and 'got really involved in student life' at university annoyed the hell out of me cos they just never switched off. Always on, bright perky and just lovely. No advice, just think this may be a contrubuting factor to why they may (that is MAY) be stand off-ish with you.

I am concerned about them

While I appreciate your desire to bring these people out of their shells, maybe they don't need to be. Ever considered that they don't want you to help them?

If I'm right, and these people in my flat are the same, as the people on this fourm, no wonder they aren't making any effort. You're all too goddam weird.

Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear oh dear. For someone who is apparently wordly-wise, you're not very tolerant are you?

I'm don't feel like i'm dealing with well rounded people here!

Really, then why bother asking us?

These internet fourms are INSANE! It's impossible to have ANY kind of emotional or indepth dicussion at all, without people taking it the wrong way.

Actually, yes, you can.

the GEEK PATROL

Hmmm. Is all I can say about that for fear of being abusive back to you.

A word to the wise, rentaknight. You came to the Sheffield Forum of your own volition, and you asked for advice. People have given you advice. People have also expressed their (albeit sterotyped and unqualified) opinions of you. They are entitled to do so, this is a public forum and within reason people can post pretty much what they want (note that the Mods have not once intervened in this thread other than JoeP who posted as a user rather than a Moderator). While it is not fair of people to abuse you in this thread, there is no excuse for abusing back.

Blimey that was a long post. I clearly have too much time on my hands tonight. I am, after all, a socially inept, bedroom dwelling, gatecrasher hating, geek.

You're very quick to put people you don't know into Pigeon holes:
Originally posted by Rentaknight
If I'm right, and these people in my flat are the same, as the people on this fourm, no wonder they aren't making any effort. You're all too goddam weird. (And that's being poliete about it!) So maybe I was asking for abuse, but yes, this is what I wanted. The honest view from the exact type of people I'm dealing with in my flat.

Can you not look at yourself, and your coments here and see any flaw or fault?

Do you honestly believe that the 18 000 plus people who have signed up to this forum are all the 'exact type of people' as those living in your flat?

Sorry, who did you say was 'goddam weird'??


Oh P.S, as for the notion that those of us who chose to use this forum regularly are somehow missing a social ladder or two; I have to declare myself as a perfectly normal person with a great job in the city centre, lots of off-line friends, a social life, a long term partner and plenty of brilliant prospects. Ok, I may be slighty oversized, pink Hippo; but we can't have everything now can we dear?

Originally posted by Rentaknight
THIS REPLY REFERS TO A POST STARSPARKLE MADE. It does not reflect my opinion on the entire fourm "AS A WHOLE".



You guys are driving me nuts, I don't "DISPAIR" of my flat mates. I love my flat, I love my life. These internet fourms are INSANE! It's impossible to have ANY kind of emotional or indepth dicussion at all, without people taking it the wrong way. DID I MENTION FOR ONE MOMENT I WAS UNHAPPY EITHER? I couldn't care less, I haven't even thought about them for 3 weeks. I just came in the other day and thought jeeeeez I wonder where they are, pherhaps I should make some effort, I know I'll get some advice from the GEEK PATROL FIRST! lol

YOU ARE MISSING FUNDEMENTAL POINTS NECCERSARY FOR THE FUNCTION OF THIS THREAD.

You know what, love, you don't have to come online here. If we're driving you insane, feel free to go away :)

I can't be arsed to read this thread. Can some one please summarise!!!!! and then i'll be incredibly clever and witty!:cool:

Mini:

Rentaknight: I'm too kewl for skewl

Everyone else: Really? We think you're rubbish

A couple of people: Maybe he's not that bad

Rentaknight: HOW DARE YOU I'M GREAT

Everyone else: Whatever

Originally posted by miniminch
I can't be arsed to read this thread. Can some one please summarise!!!!! and then i'll be incredibly clever and witty!:cool:

Rentaknight is worried that his flat mates are far too shy and he wants to know how he canbring them out of their shell and be more like him (outgoing, confident, and an ex model no less).

Sadly for Rentaknight most of the advice was along the lines of 'leave them be you jumped up smug superior person' (although there was a quality post by a crustacean related member on page 4).

Rentaknight took exception to this and called us all no-life geek weirdos.

I still maintain it's a wind-up.

Someone that 'amazing' would never give a stuff about a load of geeks and freaks.

But it's been worth it for the laughs..

Come on, you're still being harsh. The guy just wants to know the people he lives with better, where's the crime in that? The fact that his flatmates aren't giving him the oppertunity is their problem, not his. If he's making an effort to talk to them but they are ignoring him or avoiding him then that is plain rude. There is a difference between being shy and being rude. I am shy, but if someone asked me a question I would not ignore them, or just give a one word answer then dart off as quickly as possible. That would be rude.

As I said Rentaknight, you're not going to change these people overnight, it will have to be a gradual thing. As long as you're not coming over as cocky or overconfident, if you make an effort, albeit small for a start, I think they will open up eventually.

Well I think you sound great Rentaknight, and for your information, I am a socially inept geek type of person, and I am just so jealous of your flat mates. Why don't you forget about them, and show me the light !? Train me !? I'll even pay !!!

if this post isn't a wind up I think that the person who started this thread suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder and should seek a cure NOW


http://groups.msn.com/NARCISSISTICPERSONALITYDISORDER/whatisanarcissist.msnw

Originally posted by Sidla


As I said Rentaknight, you're not going to change these people overnight, it will have to be a gradual thing. As long as you're not coming over as cocky or overconfident, if you make an effort, albeit small for a start, I think they will open up eventually.

Who is rentaknight to change them at all? If his flatmates want to be shy, quiet people who don't interact with rentaknight then they have a right to be.

I suspect that the problem is more that he can't stand the flatmates ignoring him. After all, he is great and who would ignore someone like that? lol

Originally posted by kathythebean
Mini:

Rentaknight: I'm too kewl for skewl

Everyone else: Really? We think you're rubbish

A couple of people: Maybe he's not that bad

Rentaknight: HOW DARE YOU I'M GREAT

Everyone else: Whatever

Beanie - Rentakill: I'm 2 kewl for skewl

Mini: Why don't you **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** off - you **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** you need and education you bell end- :gag: Oh and HI and welcome to the forum - I'm Miniminch - People call me Mini - I'm lovely deep down (very deep down)

Originally posted by limpetboy
Who is rentaknight to change them at all? If his flatmates want to be shy, quiet people who don't interact with rentaknight then they have a right to be.
But are shy people happy being shy? I'm not. I love it when people want to make an effort to converse with me, because I don't always have the confidence to initiate conversation.

Originally posted by Sidla
But are shy people happy being shy? I'm not. I love it when people want to make an effort to converse with me, because I don't always have the confidence to initiate conversation.

Thats fair enough Sidla but they don't want to talk to him, they run away when they see him coming....shouldn't that say something to him?

Originally posted by Sidla
But are shy people happy being shy? I'm not. I love it when people want to make an effort to converse with me, because I don't always have the confidence to initiate conversation.

I'm shy (not as much as I once was but I am) and I'm pretty happy ta very much. But my point above was more that maybe they don't want to interact with him. He did, after all, treat them pretty shoddily:

During freshers I got to know them all, but never really paid much attention to them

And does slag them off quite a bit:

Anyway alittle about them. One is a physics geek. One is a freaky gothic girl who is just generally weird. One is a computer geek who has the worst social skills I've ever encountered. One is just a very shy very quiet girl, and another is again a quiet girl who enjoys things such as reading, quiet relaxation and chess. (No doubt!). I honestly don't think this is a case of them not liking me as a person, cos I'm often the one trying to strike up conversation. AND I MEAN MINIMAL CONVERSATION. Like who are u, how old r u, where r u from etc etc And they just daren't speak... and I know they often leave the kitchen if they think anyone is going in... they like to be alone alot ;o haha

And us

You're all too goddam weird.

Maybe, just maybe, they don't like him? And therein, I think, lies the problem.

http://groups.msn.com/NARCISSISTICPERSONALITYDISORDER/whatisanarcissist.msnw

Back of the net!

Ugh much as I agree with tons of the stuff people have said about you coming across as arrogant, etc...

But...

Well, I fell you're getting bullied somewhat, and even though you *come across* as the sort of arrogant tosser I wouldn't actually want to bother with normally, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and give you some sound advice (seeing as I'm a fresher too).

Right. I'm a first year, clubber (albeit Indie kind of clubs not like gatecrasher, but hey - it's only different musical taste), outgoing, up for anything, etc. But I have friends that aren't like that (and lots of friends that are) and we get on well, but I UNDERSTAND how frustrating it is with quiet people who refuse to talk or whatever. Really.

And, forum, to be fair to the guy, despite the hypocritical statements every now and then, it does sound like he acted just as anyone would towards new flatmates at the beginning, but they didnt respond. Many universities (including mine) do surveys and that asking you what music you like/how outgoing you are/etc before you move in, so you can be matched up. It's not a case of 'why don't you try and get to know them', it's more that he has and they're just unfriendly (which isn't the same as shy) and uncooperative. I can imagine how rubbish it would be to live in a flat full of people who don't want to talk or whatever - boring, lonely...argh!

It doesn't mean they're horrible people or anything...just uncooperative.

By the way, I resent being called a 'geek' because I use an internet forum - it's been bloody years since it was only computer 'geeks' who used the internet...if you check out the 'going out in sheffield' bit I think you'll realise that a lot/most of the people here spend most of their time getting trashed and going clubbing too :D

I suppose you have three options - put up with the situation you have now, move out, or attempt contact with them, and seriously, don't be afraid of telling them you feel like they haven't bothered to make an effort - if they say 'i'm just shy' then at least you know.

Originally posted by spicey
Thats fair enough Sidla but they don't want to talk to him, they run away when they see him coming....shouldn't that say something to him?
Yes, that they're rude.

Originally posted by Sidla
Yes, that they're rude.

Maybe not sidla, Maybe they are mildy aspergic. That isn't rude and many people are.

Originally posted by Sidla
Yes, that they're rude.

Or....(at the risk of repeating myself) that they don't like him.

Originally posted by limpetboy
Or....(at the risk of repeating myself) that they don't like him.

Or that.

Let us look at the common denominator.

Originally posted by limpetboy
Or....(at the risk of repeating myself) that they don't like him.
I concur that that is another possibility, but I'm trying to work with him, not against.

Just read Sidla's bit about 'shy/rude' - sorry for the repetition :)

Originally posted by Sidla
I concur that that is another possibility, but I'm trying to work with him, not against.

Not trying to work against him, trying to tell it like it is.

First impressions last, if he has made a bad first impression or the people in his flat have stereotyped him (either rightly or wrongly) then it can be incredibly difficult to change that.

On top of that I find it faintly patronising that he wants to use his 'insight' and 'life experience' (man) to bring them out of their shells. Just because he's oh so jolly and pretty and popular doesn't mean that he has the right to try and change these people.

Maybe these people are actually quite outgoing in the right environment/with the right people. The sad fact for rentaknight may be that unfortunately, the right environment is one without him and he isn't the right people.

Sad maybe, but also possibly true. And it is a possibility that rentaknight has singularly failed to notice.

I could sympathise with Rentaknight if it was one or two of his flatmates who were awkward and shy but all five of them!?

Sorry R but I think the problem is you!

Quit talking to them like an usher at a wedding with that 'bright' smile and 'hey! I'm really interested' look....

You're probably coming over like Hughie Green! :gag: or even worse, Hugh Grant....

You've started off thinking of them as an odd alien species totally unlike you. I'd bet you came across as a patronising git trying to slum it with the lower orders
Just accept these are intelligent people who don't care to share with Mary bloody Poppins. Just grunt at them in passing in a non commital way and you might get a response then, when you decide to be real with them
:rolleyes:

I spent many years living with groups of housemates, fom Uni, through to young professionals.

I have learnt that:

a~ You have to understand the game called compromise
b~ You will not like 65.78% of the people you are made to share with.
c~ after a bottle or two of Lambrini in the communual kitchens, it wont matter.


(I once shared a house with quietest girl ever. I mean she wouldn't come out of her room for anything. i.e door knocking, phone ringing, fire.

She was like a silent partner in the rent paying process.

However when she had her Boyf over and in her room... after a while we all knew she was there...
and just how she was feeling!!!)
:gag:

I`m tempted to consider that as this guy is used to being popular, the issue may be that he feels rejected by the flatmates. Perhaps having people not wanting to talk to him, and not be around him is a new experience. Rather than question his expectations/experiences or sense of self, it is a lot easier to call the flatmates into question.

Originally posted by jana
I`m tempted to consider that as this guy is used to being popular, the issue may be that he feels rejected by the flatmates. Perhaps having people not wanting to talk to him, and not be around him is a new experience. Rather than question his expectations/experiences or sense of self, it is a lot easier to call the flatmates into question.

I'm with you on this one, I wasn't going to post at all but I do think he needs to ask why in such a hugely rounded and fulfilled life (acheived at such a young age), this is niggling him so much. I'm also astonished at the number of replies he has generated. He's certainly got the knack of attracting attention, bet he was vile as a toddler and will make an excellent housemate when he appears on Big Brother.

Hello again :wave:

I think it's kinda refreshing to hear someone speak so honestly.

The forum should be a good place to have a rant and say that you think you're housemates are muppets (or whatever), even if you wouldn't say that to their faces.

If you live with people who don't make any effort to speak to you, it is likely to do your head in. It would do my head in, to be fair.

Just don't live with them again next year.

This thread has made me laugh in any case, so ta for that.

Cheese and peas and trees to you,

Chicken Monkey

Originally posted by Rentaknight

You guys are driving me nuts, I don't "DISPAIR" of my flat mates. I love my flat, I love my life. . These internet fourms are INSANE! It's impossible to have ANY kind of emotional or indepth dicussion at all, without people taking it the wrong way. DID I MENTION FOR ONE MOMENT I WAS UNHAPPY EITHER? I couldn't care less, I haven't even thought about them for 3 weeks.

YOU ARE MISSING FUNDEMENTAL POINTS NECCERSARY FOR THE FUNCTION OF THIS THREAD.

Is this why you posted a 746 word essay to an internet forum about them? looks like you could care less to me!

The other thing I like is where you wrote that you weren't trying to change them, but you then explained how you wanted to change them......sort yourself out fella.

You can't help big up yourself can you? My advice for you is to not educate them in your wonderful ways of being sociable becuase if you end up succeeding then you'll pi55 them off even more by talking about yourself to them all the time

Originally posted by Rentaknight
[b]
If I'm right, and these people in my flat are the same, as the people on this fourm, no wonder they aren't making any effort. You're all too goddam weird. (And that's being poliete about it!) So maybe I was asking for abuse, but yes, this is what I wanted. The honest view from the exact type of people I'm dealing with in my flat.



this is great, i have absolutely no bias towards you or the forumers....but reading through yours and everyone's posts:

1. you can tell by the way the posts are written they're from very sociable people with full and rounded lives....none of them need to say that....i can tell!

2. i'm seeing loads of reason coming from them, they're posts make perfect sence and i'm laughing my socks off because they're funny too

3. you keep bigging yourself up and calling your housemates geeks, socially inept, weird.....nonones gonna like you if you do this now are they?

4. what sort of solution were you expecting?....the magic formula? anyone decent would figure this ONE out for themselves surely?

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