View Full Version : Dead birds - What do you think?


Anna B
08-01-2011, 18:19
More dead birds, (this time 1,000 doves) have fallen from the sky in Faenza, Italy.

Add that to the 5,000 red-winged blackbirds that fell in Beebe, Arkansas, (Dec 31st,)
the 500 blackbirds and starlings in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, USA (Jan 3rd,) and 100 Jackdaws in Falkoping, Sweden.

Then there's the fish; 85,000 drum fish found dead on the 17 mile stretch of the Arkansas river (Dec 30th)
2,000,000 fish (est.) found dead in Chesapeake Bay, East Coast, USA. (5th Jan)

All with no rational explanation.

What's happening? Does this happen all the time but we just don't hear about it, or is this something else?

What do you think?

quisquose
08-01-2011, 18:21
It happens all the time, but the media has decided to flock.

Noob
08-01-2011, 18:22
Its only fish and birds. Who cares?

spooky3
08-01-2011, 18:22
Have you got some reports for these incidents?

Are you predicting the end of the world?

sibon
08-01-2011, 18:24
Have you got some reports for these incidents?

Are you predicting the end of the world?

The reports are true.

You could easily verify that yourself.

They don't signify the end of the world though.

Leopold
08-01-2011, 18:26
It is weird because there is no reasonable explanation. But....life goes on aye girl.

Anna B
08-01-2011, 18:27
Have you got some reports for these incidents?

Are you predicting the end of the world?

Certainly not.

But there has to be a rational explanation or we are into the world of the conspiracy theorist yet again. But this time there are facts to deal with, (it's been widely reported - TV and newspapers) and no experts have come up with an answer yet.

I'd much prefer a rational explanation.

Rupert_Baehr
08-01-2011, 18:27
Apparently many hundreds of thousands of turkeys died worldwide during the past 3 months.

rubydazzler
08-01-2011, 18:27
I wonder if it could be to do with sun spot activity sending them off course and they die from flying too far with no food and water? I seem to remember that it's thought they navigate by magnetic North, or something.

I haven't read any of the reports in detail but have seen the pix and headlines. Seems very strange, doesn't it?

sibon
08-01-2011, 18:29
I wonder if it could be to do with sun spot activity sending them off course and they die from flying too far with no food and water? I seem to remember that it's thought they navigate by magnetic North, or something.

I haven't read any of the reports in detail but have seen the pix and headlines. Seems very strange, doesn't it?

One of the bird deaths is thought to have been caused by them flying too low and crashing. Caused by fireworks, I think.

The fish ones are strange as they only affect one species at a time. A virus might be a rational explanation for that.

spooky3
08-01-2011, 18:29
I wonder if it could be to do with sun spot activity sending them off course and they die from flying too far with no food and water? I seem to remember that it's thought they navigate by magnetic North, or something.

I haven't read any of the reports in detail but have seen the pix and headlines. Seems very strange, doesn't it?

I'd give roughly the same answers there.

Also i've not heard anything, hence why I was asking for references to the 6 reports.

Anna B
08-01-2011, 18:31
There's also HAARP to consider, (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Programme in Alaska) which was supposed to be harmless.

Leopold
08-01-2011, 18:39
Apparently many hundreds of thousands of turkeys died worldwide during the past 3 months.

A turkey is for Christmas not for life!

Frank Sidney
08-01-2011, 19:13
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2011/01/08/Doves-fall-from-sky-in-Italy/UPI-66861294501810/

I first saw this story in the Daily Mail the other day. It reported a similar incident. Oddly on examination the birds are said to have died from inner trauma. As though they had flown into something. Not by hitting the ground either, before some wag comments! There's also reports of thousands of dead fish turning up on shores along with crabs and other creatures. The incidents are world wide.

Although my smart ass brother commented today the fish could have been killed by birds falling on them. :hihi:

Isn't there some sort of legend that the world will end in May 2011 and that these insidents are the prequal...:suspect:

The more zany theory is that the birds have been hit by UFO's :confused:

No doubt the more stable of SF uses will dismiss the events as some sort of natural incident. Me? I've started to stockpile corned beef and coco pops in preparation of the breakdown of civilization, what do you think?:D

rubydazzler
08-01-2011, 19:16
One of the bird deaths is thought to have been caused by them flying too low and crashing. Caused by fireworks, I think.

The fish ones are strange as they only affect one species at a time. A virus might be a rational explanation for that.The firework theory doesn't seem very credible to me. We've been having firework displays from time immemorial and I've never heard of en masse avian deaths before :huh:

It could be akin to the rains of frogs and fishes that we've heard about in folklore.

rubydazzler
08-01-2011, 19:18
We're discussing this over here as well >>>>> http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=701551 :)

Frank Sidney
08-01-2011, 19:21
ok thanks. mods you may as well delete it......

Frank Sidney
08-01-2011, 19:23
I first saw this story in the Daily Mail the other day. It reported a similar incident. Oddly on examination the birds are said to have died from inner trauma. As though they had flown into something. Not by hitting the ground either, before some wag comments! There's also reports of thousands of dead fish turning up on shores along with crabs and other creatures. The incidents are world wide.

Although my smart ass brother commented today the fish could have been killed by birds falling on them.

Isn't there some sort of legend that the world will end in May 2011 and that these insidents are the prequal...

The more zany theory is that the birds have been hit by UFO's

No doubt the more stable of SF uses will dismiss the events as some sort of natural incident. Me? I've started to stockpile corned beef and coco pops in preparation of the breakdown of civilization....

Frank Sidney
08-01-2011, 19:25
I wonder if it could be to do with sun spot activity sending them off course and they die from flying too far with no food and water? I seem to remember that it's thought they navigate by magnetic North, or something.

I haven't read any of the reports in detail but have seen the pix and headlines. Seems very strange, doesn't it?

But that wouldn't explain the fish and crabs dieing. A theory that there's something wrong with the earths core has also been claimed. Sorry can't remember where I saw this..

donkey
08-01-2011, 19:25
Its only fish and birds. Who cares?

People who have the basic intelligence to work out that it could symptomatic of a wider threat?

Leopold
08-01-2011, 19:29
I read a theory that birds in general are becoming more intelligent and that they witnessed the mass slaughter of turkeys, geese, chickens etc over Christmas. To stop them from suffering the same fate they decided to do kamikaze!:roll:

Rupert_Baehr
08-01-2011, 19:29
A turkey is for Christmas not for life!

You think? - I eat turkey every week.

Some of my friends hate me for it.

Bunch of turkeys!:hihi:

Beef once or twice a year.

Rupert_Baehr
08-01-2011, 19:33
There's also HAARP to consider, (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Programme in Alaska) which was supposed to be harmless.

If the HAARP program (based in Alaska) can kill birds in Italy, then the results (should they ever be published) will be world-shaking!

So much for the inverse square law. Newton - Eat your heart out (and the rest of you can get in line behind him.)

rubydazzler
08-01-2011, 19:39
But that wouldn't explain the fish and crabs dieing. A theory that there's something wrong with the earths core has also been claimed. Sorry can't remember where I saw this..I just binged 'something wrong with the Earth's core is killing sealife' and it brought up a few threads, most seemingly holding BP's gusher responsible.

Are they going to end up having to compensate the entire planet? That's going to play havoc with the price of oil :o

Haven't got time to read them because I have to go out ...

bobbie
08-01-2011, 19:44
Dead birds? I assume they must have died.

Why are we worrying, birds have been dying since time began

solarjim
08-01-2011, 19:45
This is well weird, I think maybe we have been monitered by aliens for thousands of years and possibly they are growing sick and tired of promises never kept by those in charge(america the cia ) maybe it's the end shortly, well I have to say we deserve it, sadly our planet is full of people who live for their own interests

Frank Sidney
08-01-2011, 19:49
I just binged 'something wrong with the Earth's core is killing sealife' and it brought up a few threads, most seemingly holding BP's gusher responsible.

Are they going to end up having to compensate the entire planet? That's going to play havoc with the price of oil :o

Haven't got time to read them because I have to go out ...

Take an umbrella....:hihi:

mort
08-01-2011, 19:56
Threads merged. Please use the search facility before starting new threads. Cheers.

Leopold
08-01-2011, 19:57
I just binged 'something wrong with the Earth's core is killing sealife' and it brought up a few threads, most seemingly holding BP's gusher responsible.

Are they going to end up having to compensate the entire planet? That's going to play havoc with the price of oil :o

Haven't got time to read them because I have to go out ...



Must be a full moon then.:roll:

wednesday1
08-01-2011, 20:04
Must be a full moon then.:roll:


I know of someone who lives in Toytown and discovered a pile of dead parrots in his back garden a few days ago.:cool:

Rampent
08-01-2011, 20:15
More dead birds, (this time 1,000 doves) have fallen from the sky in Faenza, Italy.

Add that to the 5,000 red-winged blackbirds that fell in Beebe, Arkansas, (Dec 31st,)
the 500 blackbirds and starlings in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, USA (Jan 3rd,) and 100 Jackdaws in Falkoping, Sweden.

Then there's the fish; 85,000 drum fish found dead on the 17 mile stretch of the Arkansas river (Dec 30th)
2,000,000 fish (est.) found dead in Chesapeake Bay, East Coast, USA. (5th Jan)

All with no rational explanation.

What's happening? Does this happen all the time but we just don't hear about it, or is this something else?

What do you think?

With all the so called boffins in the world splitting atoms and what like, why can nobody promote a reasonable explanation?

Frank Sidney
08-01-2011, 20:28
I've seen an article somewhere which stated that the events are an indication that Jesus is about to appear again. Of all the explanations I hope this is true. Not because I'm religious but it would be the most entertaining!

Are those Grahame's footsteps I hear approaching?.....:)

gailsnails
08-01-2011, 20:54
On a serious note you have to admit its all very weird and fact that no one seems to have an explanation as to why all this is happening i think is a little worrying!

R.A.N.D
08-01-2011, 20:57
harp springs to mind:o http://adventofdeception.com/2010-harrp-nautral-disasters

gailsnails
08-01-2011, 21:35
harp springs to mind:o http://adventofdeception.com/2010-harrp-nautral-disasters
If this is really happening (HARRP) then this is messing with nature too much and does explain the extreme weather that has been happening across the world - scary stuff!:roll:

Rampent
08-01-2011, 21:41
People playing Harps are evil. Never liked the sound anyways.

Alien52
08-01-2011, 21:50
I think we should all run around shouting "hullaballoo"

Rampent
08-01-2011, 21:58
I think we should all run around shouting "hullaballoo"

I just did - and 200 bluetits just landed on my head. I'm proper scared now.

Flowersfade
08-01-2011, 22:06
Perhaps the scientists are attempting to play God? Or maybe the animals were all Mayans and decided to commit suicide before 2012.

Flowersfade
08-01-2011, 22:08
On a serious note you have to admit its all very weird and fact that no one seems to have an explanation as to why all this is happening i think is a little worrying!

The end is nigh apocalypse time.

Flowersfade
08-01-2011, 22:10
I read a theory that birds in general are becoming more intelligent and that they witnessed the mass slaughter of turkeys, geese, chickens etc over Christmas. To stop them from suffering the same fate they decided to do kamikaze!:roll:

Oh nooooooooooooo ah well i'm more of a chicken eater anyway.

Anna B
08-01-2011, 22:22
I'd like some statistical evidence and analysis of this happening before, as it has, before I start believing in the end of the world stuff.

Maybe it happens often but we just don't normally hear about it.
But the Daily Mail et al being from the manipulative 'lets make a story out of nothing' school of journalism are just hyping it up with tales of impending armageddon.

There's no doubt there's an increasing general sense of hysteria about, which they would be quick to latch on to and exploit, (as would any number of Governments around the world...)

Maybe we are being manipulated in more ways than one... Who knows? Keep alert and be careful what you wish for.

Keep calm and carry on.

Flowersfade
08-01-2011, 22:44
The Daily mail do like to print trash

pcspb1
08-01-2011, 22:51
UN Guidelines for not using environmental modification techniques in anger.

So, they exist then?

TEXT PUBLISHED IN: United Nations General Assembly Resolution 31/72, Annex; see Official Records of the General Assembly, Thirty-first Session, Supplement No. 39 (A/31/39), pp. 37-38. International Legal Materials, Vol. XVI, No. 1, January 1977, pp. 88-94 (Engl.); World Armaments and Disarmament, SIPRI Yearbook 1978, London 1978, pp. 392-397 (Engl.); Shindler & Toman, eds., "The Laws of Armed Conflicts."

Realizing that the use of environmental modification techniques for peaceful purposes could improve the interrelationship of man and nature and contribute to the preservation and improvement of the environment for the benefit of present and future generations,
Recognizing, however, that military or any other hostile use of such techniques could have effects extremely harmful to human welfare,
Desiring to prohibit effectively military or any other hostile use of environmental modification techniques in order to eliminate the dangers to mankind from such use, and affirming their willingness to work towards the achievement of this objective,
Desiring also to contribute to the strengthening of trust among nations and to the further improvement of the international situation in accordance with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations,
Have agreed as follows:

ARTICLE I 1. Each State Party to this Convention undertakes not to engage in military or any other hostile use of environmental modification techniques having widespread, long-lasting or severe effects as the means of destruction, damage or injury to any other State Party.
2. Each State Party to this Convention undertakes not to assist, encourage or induce any State, group of States or international organization to engage in activities contrary to the provisions of paragraph 1 of this article.

ARTICLE II As used in article 1, the term "environmental modification techniques" refers to any technique for changing - through the deliberate manipulation of natural processes--the dynamics, composition or structure of the Earth, including its biota, lithosphere, hydrosphere and atmosphere, or of outer space.

ARTICLE III 1. The provisions of this Convention shall not hinder the use of environmental modification techniques for peaceful purposes and shall be without prejudice to the generally recognized principles and applicable rules of international law concerning such use.
2. The States Parties to this Convention undertake to facilitate, and have the right to participate in, the fullest possible exchange of scientific and technological information on the use of environmental modification techniques for peaceful purposes. States Parties in a position to do so shall contribute, alone or together with other States or international organizations, to international economic and scientific co-operation in the preservation, improvement and peaceful utilization of the environment, with due consideration for the needs of the developing areas of the world

Source (http://www.cuttingedge.org/NEWS/n1196a.html)

terminator
08-01-2011, 23:35
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nBhYN738YU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDcVZ59m8II&feature=related

pcspb1
08-01-2011, 23:38
and here - Mass animal deaths (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=201817256339889828327.0004991bca25af104a22b&ll=35.746512,-89.912109&spn=50.384343,79.013672&source=embed)

purdyamos
09-01-2011, 00:41
I've seen an article somewhere which stated that the events are an indication that Jesus is about to appear again. Of all the explanations I hope this is true. Not because I'm religious but it would be the most entertaining!



As long as he looks like Ted Neeley. :love:

Did they ever work out what was happening to the bees?

donkey
09-01-2011, 09:37
Did they ever work out what was happening to the bees?

It seems a lot of the deaths are caused by a plague of parasitic mites which bore a hole in the bee's body which would be proportionately comparable to the size of a dinner plate if it were on a person.

This probably accounts for most the deaths, but many are still unexplained. Scientists have found a way to kill the mites through some kind of genetically engineered bio attack, but they reckon it could take up to 20 years before the product is widely available.

Nuff Cred
09-01-2011, 09:41
More dead birds, (this time 1,000 doves) have fallen from the sky in Faenza, Italy.

Add that to the 5,000 red-winged blackbirds that fell in Beebe, Arkansas, (Dec 31st,)
the 500 blackbirds and starlings in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, USA (Jan 3rd,) and 100 Jackdaws in Falkoping, Sweden.

Then there's the fish; 85,000 drum fish found dead on the 17 mile stretch of the Arkansas river (Dec 30th)
2,000,000 fish (est.) found dead in Chesapeake Bay, East Coast, USA. (5th Jan)

All with no rational explanation.

What's happening? Does this happen all the time but we just don't hear about it, or is this something else?

What do you think?

Ha ha you are funny. I fell on my arse on the ice this morning. Coincidence? I think not my friend.

flamingjimmy
09-01-2011, 09:53
Wow this thread's really brought out the crazies hasn't it?

Aliens, the Cia, the earth's core, zombie Jesus and to top it off someone even mentioned 2012. Keep 'em coming guys, no-one's gone with an illuminati one yet why not try that?

rubydazzler
09-01-2011, 10:00
Wow this thread's really brought out the crazies hasn't it? Aliens, the Cia, the earth's core, zombie Jesus and to top it off someone even mentioned 2012. Keep 'em coming guys, no-one's gone with an illuminati one yet why not try that?But you've got something sensible to say, though? Some credible explanation?

*reads post*

Apparently not. :D

flamingjimmy
09-01-2011, 10:11
But you've got something sensible to say, though? Some credible explanation?

*reads post*

Apparently not. :D

No I have no explanation.

I do not know why this is happening, however all of the crazy ideas that I mentioned are entirely without evidence, and are extremely unlikely.

It would be like me saying that this is because of Tibetan mind readers playing a prank. There is absolutely no reason to believe any of them.

That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence (and with laughing).

shaznay
09-01-2011, 10:25
You get a few dead birds in the US and now every dead bird or animal, around the world, that dies in numbers of more than 5 are part of some great mysterious conspiracy.


it seems folk are getting a bit hysterical about everything these days ...lets all calm the **** down......:help:

Frank Sidney
09-01-2011, 10:26
Wow this thread's really brought out the crazies hasn't it?

Aliens, the Cia, the earth's core, zombie Jesus and to top it off someone even mentioned 2012. Keep 'em coming guys, no-one's gone with an illuminati one yet why not try that?

You're scared aren't you jimmy :hihi:

Noob
09-01-2011, 12:19
People who have the basic intelligence to work out that it could symptomatic of a wider threat?

Ahh, scaremongers you mean?

Flowersfade
09-01-2011, 12:40
Ahh, scaremongers you mean?

Daily mail readers :)

spooky3
09-01-2011, 12:42
Daily mail readers :)

Might need to lean the other way to find the right scaremongers for this one...

LordChaverly
09-01-2011, 17:23
I favour the killing joke theory.

I thought I would ask the robin in my garden this morning, but thought better of it in case avian humour is capable of affecting humans.

jonbonbaldy
09-01-2011, 20:39
Wow this thread's really brought out the crazies hasn't it?

Aliens, the Cia, the earth's core, zombie Jesus and to top it off someone even mentioned 2012. Keep 'em coming guys, no-one's gone with an illuminati one yet why not try that?

Maybe its the Illuminati that's doing this.:hihi::hihi:

In all seriousness i have been following the article for a few days and i do find it very strange and i don't believe it to be coincidence either.

I did read somewhere that a month or so before the tsunami on boxing day that loads of whales and dolphins beached themselves on coastal areas around where it happened, so who knows maybe animals are a lot smarter than us mere humans after all.:suspect:

Rampent
09-01-2011, 20:44
The fireworks did it. And the wrong kind of wind. And people staring at the birds in flight. It makes them implode.

Frank Sidney
09-01-2011, 20:55
Things have took a tern for the worse, here we go....:)

Flowersfade
09-01-2011, 20:56
Maybe someone fed the birds alka seltzer?

sccsux
09-01-2011, 20:57
What do you think?

I think it sounds like the opening to Portent by James Herbert:D.

Flowersfade
09-01-2011, 20:58
anyone seen Alfred Hitchcocks The birds?

HeadingNorth
13-01-2011, 02:26
One of these "flock deaths" has now been explained at least - although it's far from a mundane explanation. Apparently, the birds all drank themselves to death!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/12170571

fake
13-01-2011, 14:09
All these free dead birds and not one pie in sight!