Why do the 41 buses run so frequently around the Crystal Peaks area, there's hardly ever anybody on them. Surely one every 30 minutes would suffice. No wonder the fares are so high, they ought to be transporting people, not fresh air.

i think it has something to do with how far they go out of sheffield
i mean i saw one all the way over in beighton and thats miles away

but will agree they always seem to be empty

i have seen a full one though

:rant:

I think 41s would be better as single deckers. They're also probably empty as they're meant to come every 5 minutes, but you end up waiting 15 minutes and 3 turn up at once - I know that's what everyone says about buses, but it does happen with the 41's - if they're meant to be every 5 minutes, surely they could stagger themselves when they leave the terminus. But of course, they are from First, and we all know how crap they are.

and they say that its because of the traffic that they all come at once.

I saw one sitting at a stop for ten mins while the driver was eating a three course meal and reading the metro. 2 other 41s went by while this guy was sat there
typical the transport system is wrong and always will continue to be.
:rant: :rant: :rant: :loopy: :rant: :rant: :rant:

I do think gemma86 is being a bit unfair, has she never heard of traffic jams at busy times when all kinds of transport get delayed (even buses), which surely means buses will catch up with the one in front and the one in front of that also catches up with the in front, the time that they leave the depot dosnt mean a thing and won't alter the situation.
Please be gratefull for the good service we have got on the 41 route and don't keep knocking it.

Originally posted by sparky2
I do think gemma86 is being a bit unfair, has she never heard of traffic jams at busy times when all kinds of transport get delayed (even buses), which surely means buses will catch up with the one in front and the one in front of that also catches up with the in front, the time that they leave the depot dosnt mean a thing and won't alter the situation.
Please be gratefull for the good service we have got on the 41 route and don't keep knocking it.
Traffic jams in Halfway mid-afternoon? Hmmm...

Originally posted by gemma86
Traffic jams in Halfway mid-afternoon? Hmmm...

Mid afternoon,School pick up time perhaps causing the problem futher along the route.At the end of the day you dont know what happened whilst that bus was in the town centre,just because theres no traffic at Halfway does not mean there aint none in town!

As for a driver sitting for ten minutes eating a 3 course meal, perhaps he had some 'Stack'time or was waiting the departure time or maybe the Bus was due to do another service such as a 21 or a school run and he had not changed the number yet.

Or maybe it had broken down. So you can slag them off all you like but they may just have a valid reason.


One more thing better an empty 41 then one an hour, seams to me that First will never satisfy even if the bus came to your front door dropped you off at your office desk and payed you for the service!

Originally posted by Johnh
Why do the 41 buses run so frequently around the Crystal Peaks area, there's hardly ever anybody on them. Surely one every 30 minutes would suffice. No wonder the fares are so high, they ought to be transporting people, not fresh air.

Can you amagine the moaning if peole had to wait 30 mins! and as for carting fresh air if i were First i would cancel all Buses after 21.00 just like Yorkshire Terrior do as you are just carting fresh air around!

Well said unners. I get sick to death of these moaners.

Originally posted by unners
Can you amagine the moaning if peole had to wait 30 mins! and as for carting fresh air if i were First i would cancel all Buses after 21.00 just like Yorkshire Terrior do as you are just carting fresh air around!

I also subscribe to the no bus after 2100 idea.

Right im off to get my Kevlar vest and tin hat.

Originally posted by tango2
I also subscribe to the no bus after 2100 idea.

Right im off to get my Kevlar vest and tin hat.

Me too you mostly only get the 40p scroates wearing their pillock caps.

Very true I normally see them at Meadowhall then when I enter Bandit country (Firthpark) its crawling with em.

Anway how can people say the 41 service is crap I see loads of em in town,,,one after the other down angel street like a snake of buses.
I bet thats why theres traffic jams,,,all the 41s blocking the centre of town.

I live on the route of the no 41 and there is always people waiting to get on it at the stop just down from my house. Although i did one look out the bedroom window and saw 5 buses there at the same time and 4 of them were 41's.
I prefer to get the tram it's a 5 mins walk but its far more reliable, cleaner and gets you to more useful parts of town. :hihi:

Originally posted by gemma86
I think 41s would be better as single deckers.

At peak times? No way. I occasionally catch a 41 from town centre to my bf's house after work and by the time they even get to the interchange they're packed.

It takes that long getting out of town though that I now jump on a tram to Manor Top and get the 41 from there. A much more pleasant journey!

you can't fault the tram, its sometimes there in your time of need for public transport. (sometimes not)

but saying that the 41 has had a long time in service maybe the buses are feeling the pressure of passengers scattered across sheffield.:rant:

I use the 41 when I want to go to town from Frecheville, it is a very good service as it goes all round town - so no tramping back to one particular place to get home. It is nearly always busy when I use it, it was standing room only on Tuesday! It is a six minute service I think for part of the day - and I have rarely had to wait long. Trams are not exempt from delays either!

First do operate a reviewing service of bus routes on a regular basis!

Should any action need to be taken on a route, im sure it would be done pretty promptly as "First" are just like any other company (operating to make profits), therefore im sure they wouldnt put empty buses on the roads due to running expenses!

Why should we complain about too many buses? Ok, we have problems at the moment regarding fares! But winter is approaching fast and I find it a breath of fresh air that i wont be waiting upto 30mins for a bus in the freezing cold weather? Which im sure a large majority of First commuters will agree???

but most of the time the tram just bypasses the traffic and gets you there quicker.

i live in beighton, a long way

tram gets me there in 25 mins

the bus uaually an hour or so ( im usually asleep)

Originally posted by tango2
I also subscribe to the no bus after 2100 idea.

Right im off to get my Kevlar vest and tin hat.
I always thought public transport was a 'no go area' after 9pm anyway, well said tango2

yes well said i have only been in sheffield for a year and caught the bus a few time safter nine pm and can honestly say never again.

I read somewhere up in gleedless valley that bus drivers were been robbed by kids.

:suspect:

Originally posted by funkymonkey
yes well said i have only been in sheffield for a year and caught the bus a few time safter nine pm and can honestly say never again.

I read somewhere up in gleedless valley that bus drivers were been robbed by kids.

:suspect:
They are ambushed by the local low lifes on the Westfield Estate (or the 'Project' for those of you who watch the PJ's) and stoned. Elsewhere in the country they are ceased around 9pm anway.
The tram is the only safe bet, but that can get a bit hairy sometimes, just don't get the last one out of sheffield on a saturday night.

mind you saying that i was on my way to meet a friend on the dreaded 48 bus. got to blackstock road and there on the pavement were kids waiting with apples. and as the bus went pass the throwing began.

One came through the window a good shot some might say
and hit a woman with a pram in tow,

All the bus driver could do was report the incident on his little toy radio and carry on busing,

From that day on i never go up to gleedless unless im passing a very high speed
:suspect:

I don't use them ... 10 years since I've been on one.
Take 'em all off for me!!
Although whilst going up to the Northern General I noticed every 76 (The Taliban Express) that came past me was full! That route has got to be paying its way!

it must be.

you hardly see any old buses going past they all seem to be new ones.
the more buses they seem to have the less on time they are i think:thumbsup:

Originally posted by funkymonkey
it must be.

you hardly see any old buses going past they all seem to be new ones.
the more buses they seem to have the less on time they are i think:thumbsup:
I want to know, who's subsidising these empty buses, is it the Transport Executive. Somebody, somewhere has to pay and I bet you its not First Bus.

i think they get a transport grant each year from the government to provide transport throughout the country.

they should i think get fined if buses are late or worse not even show up, which seems to be a common occurance.

i think it would be better off going to other necessary places:rant:

I'd be happy for the 41 to reduce to every 15 mins if it meant it would actually turn up on time. I'm not sure what "up to every 6 minutes" means but I've seen them as often as 10 seconds apart! Generally 3 or 4 in a row, after waiting up to 30 minutes for one to arrive (usually happens most on the cold, wet and windy days). I have wondered why they don't have some kind of plan that if they are all clustered together at least one should turn around at crystal peaks and head back to town, helping out some of the people who are waiting for the late buses to return in that direction. Maybe with all the chavscum around the drivers just feel safer travelling in groups :D

That would be too easy binky! It would be interesting to know how much it costs to run a bus from Halfway to Sheffield, bearing in mind that First Bus don't pay tax on the fuel??
You could then balance how many buses you need to break even or make a moderate profit with how many journeys you run a full bus?

maybe we should ask first whats going on but i don't think they will be very forthcoming

Originally posted by Binky
Generally 3 or 4 in a row, after waiting up to 30 minutes for one to arrive (usually happens most on the cold, wet and windy days).

Hehe, oh the cruel cruel ways of the world! That happened to me last week.

Still, after living in East Sussex for a few months, Sheffield bus services are a dream. Where I lived there was one bus every hour, and drivers were not averse to leaving the stop a few minutes early if they happened to be having a good run that day. As a result, if the timetable said 11.10am, you had to be at the stop for at least 11am to make sure you didn't miss it or you'd be waiting another hour!

Not to mention that a return ticket to town (approx. 20 mins one way) cost £3.70 and a day ticket £6.

Originally posted by funkymonkey
maybe we should ask first whats going on but i don't think they will be very forthcoming
Unlike the Sheffield City Council who have their Security Police monitoring this forum, the Transport Exec obviously don't ..... or do they and they just don't want to answer???

Originally posted by funkymonkey
maybe we should ask first whats going on but i don't think they will be very forthcoming

You can count on that but, you never know you might get an answer from their Spin Doctor.

Originally posted by Johnh
Unlike the Sheffield City Council who have their Security Police monitoring this forum, the Transport Exec obviously don't ..... or do they and they just don't want to answer???
speeking of not answering have you seen those little corsas all plastered with first security whizzing round town not doing anything, wasting fuel that us folk have to in some way pay for.

and half of them are driven round by people who wouldn't say boo to a goose.

maybe they are monitoring and choose not to say anything:suspect:

Route 41 First Buses empty??
I think this has lost the thread somewhere along the line. As an answer to to what Binky said about turning round at Crystal Peaks, I have actualy seen that done. There were two buses arrived at the same time to go to the terminus and an inspector (or whoever he was) turned the second bus round and sent him back to Sheffield, thereby clearing the backlog at the bus stop.

Slightly off the topic but an article in todays(Friday) edition of The Star regarding the buses makes for interesting reading.

Whats the article say i don't have the paper to hand