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roughy101
27-10-2005, 17:56
i know one of my ancestors lived at 48 button lane in 1861 the census image is difficult to read and i think it was a pub,is there anyway anyone could do me a look up PLEASE,i would be very grateful:thumbsup:

lazarus
27-10-2005, 18:04
There was a pub called THE ANGEL on Button Lane as to it being the one you mean I dont know, you can get a photo of The Angel in loads of books about Sheffield.
I can remember Button Lane but the pub had gone by then.

HughW
27-10-2005, 18:08
I'd like to take a look at the original - can you post the reference, or tell me the names and ages of the people at that address?

Hugh

roughy101
27-10-2005, 19:17
Originally posted by HughW
I'd like to take a look at the original - can you post the reference, or tell me the names and ages of the people at that address?

Hugh have sent you a pm :thumbsup:

HughW
27-10-2005, 22:32
hello Jenny,

The first thing is, that '48' is not a house number, it is the census schedule number.

The pub is called the Sportsman's Cottage. Michael Liversidge's book on Sheffield Pubs says that this was number 74. Douglas Lamb in his book on Sheffield pubs, agrees, and says it was open from 1825 to 1908 (though I don't know the source of that information).

There are quite a few photos of Button Lane at Picture Sheffield (http://www.picturesheffield.com/database_search.php) but I can't find one of that part of the street. A lot of them are of the Angel and other buildings at the eastern (low number) end.

Hugh

HughW
27-10-2005, 22:43
The numbering seems to have changed between 1861 and 1891. In the latter year The Sportsman (which I take to be the same pub) is number 104. In White's 1901 directory 104 is a beerhouse. It is still a beerhouse in 1919/20 (White's again) despited Douglas Lamb's dates.

Hugh

roughy101
28-10-2005, 08:33
Originally posted by HughW
The numbering seems to have changed between 1861 and 1891. In the latter year The Sportsman (which I take to be the same pub) is number 104. In White's 1901 directory 104 is a beerhouse. It is still a beerhouse in 1919/20 (White's again) despited Douglas Lamb's dates.

Hugh thanks hugh,what threw me was in the 1861 census you cant read william wild occupation,but it didnt look like innkeeper or anything similar,is it possible to look at whites online,thanks for your help, jenny:thumbsup:

HughW
28-10-2005, 09:59
I think you mean John WILD's occupation?! William was the 15 years old. John is listed in 1861 as 'sheersmith & publican'. As it happens, William is also listed as "sheersmith".

People often combined another occupation with running a pub.

Hugh

roughy101
28-10-2005, 11:31
Originally posted by HughW
I think you mean John WILD's occupation?! William was the 15 years old. John is listed in 1861 as 'sheersmith & publican'. As it happens, William is also listed as "sheersmith".

People often combined another occupation with running a pub.

Hugh thanks, william was my grt grt grandfather and john was my grt grt grt grandfather, what on earth was a sheer smith,is it possible to view whites on line:thumbsup:

HughW
28-10-2005, 11:56
There are several Sheffield directories on line on the Historical Directories (http://www.historicaldirectories.org/) site, including 1862.

I'm assuming 'sheersmith' is a mis-spelling of 'shearsmith'. There were several firms making sheep shears in Sheffield along with other edge tools. If you search for 'Shear' in the 1862 directory on that site you will find them.

Hugh

Fareast
28-10-2005, 13:44
I'm sorry this has nothing to do with the old history of Button Lane but just after the 2nd. World War , Button Lane used to fascinate me. First of all it was very Dickensian , even in 1950 . I'm sure I remember one of those gaslamps that stuck out of the wall , rather than being on a post .
Later in life , about 1958 , there was definitely a Somalese cafe on there , open much later than most English cafes at that time and we used to call in there on our way home from wherever .
But the main thing I remember about Button Lane was its shape ------a crooked lane that , more or less followed the Moor from Moorhead , down to Fitzwilliam Street -------or in today's terms from the bottom of Cambridge Street to where the Salvation Army building is now . ----------As I said , on a foggy night , walking down Button Lane was a Dickensian experience !!

goldenfleece
28-10-2005, 16:57
Where is this Button Lane now?