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PESKY6969
24-10-2005, 18:55
i have heard a rumour that a camera is to be installed at the tram gates at hillsborough corner to catch drivers and fine them, can anyone confirm this? :confused:

Meaks
24-10-2005, 19:13
No but there is plenty of discussion about it here (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58361), here (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17161) and here (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12429).

:thumbsup:

PESKY6969
24-10-2005, 19:31
surely it could be open at off peak times

d71146
25-10-2005, 09:24
Originally posted by PESKY6969
i have heard a rumour that a camera is to be installed at the tram gates at hillsborough corner to catch drivers and fine them, can anyone confirm this? :confused:

Its not a rumor it's going to be a real money spinner for the council and about time too

Carmine
25-10-2005, 09:28
Originally posted by d71146
Its not a rumor it's going to be a real money spinner for the council and about time too
Here here!:clap: :clap: :clap:

jgharston
25-10-2005, 15:21
Originally posted by PESKY6969
surely it could be open at off peak times
Planning approved changing the exact positioning of the bus gate and changing the restricted hours to jusy 7am-7pm some months ago. Highways haven't yet got around to implementing it. There reasons have been various, from "we can't fit all the writing on the signs" to "we're waiting for the latest electronic cameras to become available".

max
25-10-2005, 16:08
The real reason is that to satisfy the huge public demand for some form of enforcement a bill has been approved allowing SCC to issue tickets using information from cameras. It is simply waiting for the signature of the relevant minister and it will be law. The money to put the cameras in place has been ear marked and the police are on board with the plans.

jgharston
25-10-2005, 16:25
Originally posted by max
... It is simply waiting for the signature of the relevant minister and it will be law.
Because of the confusion on all sides I asked my Area Panel officers to request that the relevant lead Highways Officer attend our next members' meeting to explain exactly what is going on.
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JGH

PESKY6969
25-10-2005, 18:28
are there any dates when this will be implemented i have heard the 1st november 2005

Greybeard
25-10-2005, 19:41
Originally posted by max
The real reason is that to satisfy the huge public demand for some form of enforcement a bill has been approved allowing SCC to issue tickets using information from cameras.

That sounds useful. I wonder if the council could use the same powers against illegally parked vehicles,- and litter louts, and drunken yobs etc. etc. ??

bglodge
25-10-2005, 21:09
Originally posted by Greybeard
That sounds useful. I wonder if the council could use the same powers against illegally parked vehicles,- and litter louts, etc. etc. ??

The Council does use it's powers to fine illegally parked vehicles and those using bus lanes illegally. It also issues fixed penalty notices to litter louts.

Greybeard
25-10-2005, 22:02
Originally posted by bglodge
The Council does use it's powers to fine illegally parked vehicles and those using bus lanes illegally. It also issues fixed penalty notices to litter louts.

Well yes I know they do, but at the moment they employ people 'on-the-ground' to apprehend the culprits. It would be a lot cheaper I think if they could use fixed cameras, after all one person can monitor several cameras at a time.

I believe the police currently have to enforce the bus lane regulations, so it would save them a lot of bother. And if cameras were used to monitor illegal parking on main routes it would release the wardens to catch people illegally parked on the side streets and outside schools etc.

With litter louts I suppose pictures of the culprits could be published in the Star once a week with a reward for identification.

TheRedWizard
25-10-2005, 22:53
I confess that I haven't read all the linked threads here, but I don't really see what the point is.

I often drive from the city to Malin Bridge for work, and always avoid Hillsborough corner - mainly because being caught would mean both a fine but also the sack.

However, I find myself in a rat race that cuts up towards Walkley, turns right and down past the home-brew shop, with plenty of other cars, on a street which has cars parked on both sides and loads of kids about.

Similarly, cutting off the Langsett Rd throughway would force everyone one along Penistone Road and up through the already chaotic road west into Hillsborough corner, where they can't turn right, up onto Holme Lane, and cutting back though the back streets of Malin Bridge, Hillsborough, past the Taplin chippy etc.

Cut off Hillsborough corner to cars, but recognise that this is going to force everyone onto residential back streets. Surely, it's time that someone realised that traffic going into Hillsborough needs to be really sorted out, rather than forcing it off the only (nineteenth-century) main roads that are available.

HotPhil
26-10-2005, 09:47
There's already a perfectly adequate solution in place, the problem is that because people ignore the bus/tram gate, the traffic lights favour the flow that should be only bus/trams and so cause that joke of a traffic jam on Bradfield Road/Holme Lane. Like it's been said - it just needs enforcing. Or getting rid of. One or the other.
And things would be a lot smoother if those people who come out of Hawksley Avenue/the Jet garage or want to turn right into the car park opposite, realised that going round the roundabout is about 400 times quicker (and aids the traffic flow for everyone else) rather than sitting waiting for someone to let them out. It really does make me laugh to see them sitting there forever waiting to be let out.

Lotti
26-10-2005, 09:53
can someone just confirm - what's with the tram gate, is it one way?

I'm sure you can go through it in the direction of Middlewood, but you have to come back towards city centre another way?

This is what I do all the time as my driving instructor told me it was the case when I was learning - wouldn't like to get caught out for something I didn't know I was doing wrong...

HotPhil
26-10-2005, 10:16
It's signed as bus and tram only in either direction from near the travel interchange next to Morrisons up to about where Huttons is I think on the other side of the junction. You can however turn left on to Langsett Road/Middlewood Road if you approaching from either Bradfield Road or Holme Lane.
Just keep an eye on the signs and you'll be fine :) It's not enforced anyway so even if you go through it, you'll not be in trouble.