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wadsleyblade
29-10-2010, 18:27
Has anyone had a phonecall from the above? They were trying to say i can claim compensation for any hearing loss that i may have suffered during previous employments. They caught me in a moment of weakness and i gave them my age and postcode and a previous employer from a long time ago. However, when i asked about telephone numbers/ addresses the caller was very evasive and said someone would be calling in the next few days who would furnish the info. Apparently, the next caller will be setting up an appointment for me at a clinic to undergo an audiometry test. (theres nothing wrong with my hearing). I can smell a scam and wondered if anyone else has had these calls. Ive had a surf on the net and cant find any reference to this organisation.

esme
29-10-2010, 20:15
I advise you to report them to the police

size 10 feet
31-10-2010, 17:51
Has anyone heard of the Industrial Workers Office. My parents who are over 70 have started receiving withheld number phone calls from the above named company purporting to be a an official company who will obtain you some compensation if you have worked in Industry. They have taken some details from my parents and informed him to be at the Carlton Park hotel in Rotherham on Thursday at 2pm for a meeting with a representative who will take his case on. I cant find anything on the internet about this company and in fact they rang again today whilst I was at my parents and when my dad asked him if he could give him anymore detail about who the company was and where they were based the man hung up. I think its the beginning of a scam on old people but I cant find anymore out. The Carlton Park Hotel confirm that a man with a foreign sounding name has booked a room all day Thursday for hearing tests, needless to say I am suspicious. can anyone shed any light on the matter and has anyone else been contacted by this company.

Raychul69
31-10-2010, 17:52
Turn up at stated time with a load of deaf people :D

SV500
31-10-2010, 17:54
Sounds similar to a call my Dad got last week,
hmmm .. I shall ask him about it,


JJ..

wotsits
31-10-2010, 17:55
Report it to the police and tell them what you know. Or you could attend with your dad and see whats what and then report it.

shuispoo
31-10-2010, 17:57
I would be wary as the I attended an auction a few years ago which turned out to be a scam - a black bag auction, Carlton Park Hotel appear to attract them perhaps

davidathomas
31-10-2010, 18:02
whats a black bag auction?

spritulist
31-10-2010, 18:05
black bag auction?dont know but sounds interesting

andyofborg
31-10-2010, 18:06
whats a black bag auction?

you buy black bags

spritulist
31-10-2010, 18:07
is it like the one at eastgate market skeggy where you bid a tenner for a black bag???

spritulist
31-10-2010, 18:08
and when you look in the bag theirs a pen or packet of playing cards..or something like that

andyofborg
31-10-2010, 18:09
i certainly feel you should report this to the police and/or trading standards

at worst it is a scam, at best its a dodgy claims management looking for clients

watchcoll
31-10-2010, 18:14
sounds like one of those scams where they get you there and then you actually find out that they are trying to sell you something or will need you to hand over money.

if there was any case of compensation being awarded for whatever they claim it is then a real lawyer would be able to deal with it.

i'd turn up with your parents and introduce yourself as their solicitor! say you are interested in acting on their behalf! (at the very least accompany them if they decide to go and MAKE SURE THEY DONT SIGN ANYTHING however innocuous it looks)

on the other hand it might turn out to be legit, but i doubt it........

shanes teeth
31-10-2010, 18:14
Does your father have an industrial injury? What imformation did he give them and why?
I think it's more likely the kind of scam where you come home to find your house burgled.

SILLY
31-10-2010, 18:16
I had a call this morning the man said we have it on record that someone in your family has worked in industry. Something wrong there because we haven't when I told him that he hung up. Also had a call from someone telling me that I had an endowment policy with a shortfall also not true he then told me that there wouldn't be sufficient to pay my mortgage. Not true my mortgage has been paid over 10 years. I think they are those type of firms that put claims in for you just cold calling but I don't like it. Last week it was one for industrial deafness!! I am registered with the telephone preference calls as well. And if eon calls again I will tell them where to shove it!! The one for industrial deafness is legit as I know someone who has been that one was at Bramall Lane they put a claim in and take a big percentage.

denlin
31-10-2010, 18:22
sounds like one of those scams where they get you there and then you actually find out that they are trying to sell you something or will need you to hand over money.

if there was any case of compensation being awarded for whatever they claim it is then a real lawyer would be able to deal with it.

i'd turn up with your parents and introduce yourself as their solicitor! say you are interested in acting on their behalf! (at the very least accompany them if they decide to go and MAKE SURE THEY DONT SIGN ANYTHING however innocuous it looks)

on the other hand it might turn out to be legit, but i doubt it........

That sounds like good idea:D

tahititwo
31-10-2010, 18:24
This may or not be of interest, may help may not http://www.thestirrer.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8643&start=0 doubt it will looking again but shows it`s not a newish thing been going a few months.

denlin
31-10-2010, 18:25
Does your father have an industrial injury? What imformation did he give them and why?
I think it's more likely the kind of scam where you come home to find your house burgled.

Unless OP has given name and address this is unlikely but if they have, I'd make sure house is occupied while you are out

rossyrooney
31-10-2010, 18:27
Be on the lookout for them telling you that their services are free,but they expect you to pay x amount of money that is fully refundable on the successful outcome of the claim.

From what i have read they tell you the deposit is a gesture on your behalf to show you are sincere about going ahead with the claim.

Your parents money was hard earned,please be very wary of too good to be true offers,they usually are.

wodger
31-10-2010, 18:32
Surprised at how many people fall for these scams. That is just what they are. A lot of detail, But mainly they will tell you that you are entitled to compensation for whatever. Then they will ask for a " Advanced Fee ". Many scams like this are going on. Yes many people fall for them. Just as they do with the " You have won a prize or Lottery ". If you have not entered or made enquiries then bin it. In this case. Information should never bee given out over the phone. Yes report this. But if you do not then make sure someone goes with you. Personally I would have ignored the phone call and asked them for a number to call them back on. Also, If you have word with the Police then they could advise you better and maybe have an officer go with you. But sad to say., Many of us have a sense of greed when we think we may get something for nothing, That is what these scammers rely upon.

shanes teeth
31-10-2010, 18:33
Unless OP has given name and address this is unlikely but if they have, I'd make sure house is occupied while you are out

They already know their name and 'phone number.How difficult will it be to find their address?

pinkgirl
31-10-2010, 18:37
I had a call this morning the man said we have it on record that someone in your family has worked in industry. Something wrong there because we haven't when I told him that he hung up. Also had a call from someone telling me that I had an endowment policy with a shortfall also not true he then told me that there wouldn't be sufficient to pay my mortgage. Not true my mortgage has been paid over 10 years. I think they are those type of firms that put claims in for you just cold calling but I don't like it. Last week it was one for industrial deafness!! I am registered with the telephone preference calls as well. And if eon calls again I will tell them where to shove it!! The one for industrial deafness is legit as I know someone who has been that one was at Bramall Lane they put a claim in and take a big percentage.

We had the same call, told them no one did and he said well in the
last 30 years? no again, so said bye to him and put phone down.

Twiglet
31-10-2010, 18:39
Threads merged

wodger
31-10-2010, 18:41
I do not know what area you may be in. But if you e-mail the following you will certainly get some good advice and also find out if the Police are investigating this already. If not sure then ring them it is just common sense. It is no good asking what others will do. Myself I would have just ignored them and also informed the Police. No harm done even if the so called company is legit. But again, Not many companies None as far as I can tell. Would do what you are saying. The ultimate Answer is RING THE POLICE. Next time tell your parents not to answer such calls. Far too many pensioners have been duped by such scams. You have the answer given by a few posters. It most likely is a scam. So pick up the phone

ecclesfieldsna@southyorks.pnn.police.uk

Grandad.Malky
31-10-2010, 18:45
black bag auction?dont know but sounds interesting

They were old-hat 30 years ago, are they still around today.

wodger
31-10-2010, 19:17
Yes we still have the scam auctions. Many auctions get away with this because people that attend them buy as seen Broken watches, P.C's with no insides etc etc. This should also be a matter for the police, But they do not interfere unless asked by trading standards. In todays world especially on the internet we have to be very carefull of all these scum bags that come up with something new every day. Mostly they target pensioners. But they also know that many people are greedy and do not realise they are being scammed. Lottery Scams etc. Advance fee scams etc. Yes. Endless nigerian 419 scams.

Smoth Dave
16-11-2010, 23:40
I have also had similar phone call to this in the past 2 days.
As you have wadsleyblade I have my first name and approximate age (a laps of judgment!).
The second call gives I short shrift to the caller and requested they call me no longer.
Have you had any further developments?

rothschild
17-11-2010, 00:38
It isn't a scam........it's a similar scheme that was running for the miners a couple of years ago. Very many miners qualified for compensation for vibration white finger and asbestosis etc.

I had the same call a month ago and seeing as I had worked in a noisy environment just a couple of years ago, I decided I had nothing to lose. My husband also works in a very noisy environment so I asked if he could attend a hearing test as well and they agreed to it.

We went to the Sheffield Wednesday place and had a hearing test with the results being given immediately. I had only a minor degree of hearing loss which surprised me because I can hear a pin drop! I would have been extremely suspicious had they told me that my hearing was damaged.
As for hubby......his hearing loss was quite marked and I know this is right because he's as deaf as a post!

There were a lot of people there when we went and everything was being handled in a proffessional way. After the hearing tests we saw a solicitor who explained to me that his company wouldn't take me on because I didn't fall within their remit. Hubby didn't get to see a solicitor because he's served in the forces so his case is being referred to a firm that deals with ex-forces.
I was told that there might be another firm willing to take my case on but I received a letter shortly after saying that I just wasn't deaf enough.:hihi:

So you see, had they been working a fast one my "case" would have progressed, but seeing as my hearing is very good there's nothing to fight for.

Also, at no point whatsover were we asked for any money. I suppose it's a bit like the "no win-no fee" thing.

DUFFEMS
05-04-2011, 09:50
I had a call this morning the man said we have it on record that someone in your family has worked in industry. Something wrong there because we haven't when I told him that he hung up. Also had a call from someone telling me that I had an endowment policy with a shortfall also not true he then told me that there wouldn't be sufficient to pay my mortgage. Not true my mortgage has been paid over 10 years. I think they are those type of firms that put claims in for you just cold calling but I don't like it. Last week it was one for industrial deafness!! I am registered with the telephone preference calls as well. And if eon calls again I will tell them where to shove it!! The one for industrial deafness is legit as I know someone who has been that one was at Bramall Lane they put a claim in and take a big percentage.

Just had one of these calls so they're doing the rounds again. I didn't confirm my name, I just said they had the wrong information for this address at which point the male caller aplologised and put the 'phone down. As usual, it's a with-held number.
These callers really annoy me!

liznospam
06-04-2011, 15:15
Told me their records indicated "someone in my household had worked in a noisy environment". When I said this was wrong and asked them where they had got my details from, they couldn't get off the phone fast enough. It makes a change for a cold caller to be the one putting the phone down.

Morgan Man
10-06-2011, 14:44
It isn't a scam........it's a similar scheme that was running for the miners a couple of years ago. Very many miners qualified for compensation for vibration white finger and asbestosis etc.

I had the same call a month ago and seeing as I had worked in a noisy environment just a couple of years ago, I decided I had nothing to lose. My husband also works in a very noisy environment so I asked if he could attend a hearing test as well and they agreed to it.

We went to the Sheffield Wednesday place and had a hearing test with the results being given immediately. I had only a minor degree of hearing loss which surprised me because I can hear a pin drop! I would have been extremely suspicious had they told me that my hearing was damaged.
As for hubby......his hearing loss was quite marked and I know this is right because he's as deaf as a post!

There were a lot of people there when we went and everything was being handled in a proffessional way. After the hearing tests we saw a solicitor who explained to me that his company wouldn't take me on because I didn't fall within their remit. Hubby didn't get to see a solicitor because he's served in the forces so his case is being referred to a firm that deals with ex-forces.
I was told that there might be another firm willing to take my case on but I received a letter shortly after saying that I just wasn't deaf enough.:hihi:

So you see, had they been working a fast one my "case" would have progressed, but seeing as my hearing is very good there's nothing to fight for.

Also, at no point whatsover were we asked for any money. I suppose it's a bit like the "no win-no fee" thing.

I had this same call earlier this week and agree with the above.

I worked in a very noisy environment some years ago and my hearing is definitely affected.

My view is that I have nothing to lose and went to sus them out.

The company is a specialist claims company called Central Claims Group - They offer you a hearing test free of charge and give feedback on the results and your options for making a claim against your previous employer.

They come up on the first page if you google them and they appear very similar in concept to a company advertising on this forum.

If you wish to have further free advice from a lawyer they will refer you to one who specialises in this type of claim, Alternatively you can walk away and choose a lawyer of your own - or do nothing.

There was no pressure to take anything further although I have agreed to be refered to their panel to see what form a claim could take - my thoughts are that their solicitors specialise in this type of work, whereas if I use my own he may not be familiar with the situation.

If a case is refered and accepted by a solicitor CCG are paid £650 for the referal by that Solicitor who then hopes to recover the fee (plus his expenses no doubt) from the succesful claim. I have in writing that this is not deducted from the claim payout but is submitted as an expense to the court and would be paid by the defendant.

The main thing to watch I reckon is that it is no win no fee and that all solicitors costs come from the court/defendant and not from the compensation.

Interestingly I had a sneaky look through the names of people who were also attending hearing tests that day and noticed several names of people that I worked with at the time - The company no longer operates in Chesterfield. I reckon the only common link between us was AUEW union wonder if that is where they get our names from.

Grandad.Malky
10-06-2011, 14:56
My view is that I have nothing to lose .

I bet those claiming for whiplash after the smallest of shunts justify it like that.

Or the classic ……….. “ everyone else is doing it “ …….. or ….. “ its only human nature”

Morgan Man
10-06-2011, 15:39
I bet those claiming for whiplash after the smallest of shunts justify it like that.

Or the classic ……….. “ everyone else is doing it “ …….. or ….. “ its only human nature”

So did my mate who has just died of Asbestosis in his 50s - His widow will be glad of the payout but would still rather have her husband.

It is a matter of people deciding for themselves and making an honest appraisal and moral judgement on what is right.

I know that I am partially deaf and I know why - In the seventies an employer could think it acceptable to put you at risk - We used to laugh at the deaf old blokes operating the drop hammers and say they were paid £100 a week to go deaf - Little realising that we were at the same risk from background noise. There was no culture of safety then as their is now.

These claims companies undoubtedly do encourage people to claim who either did not know they could or just never got around to it - that is probably not a bad thing. No doubt others may try to jump on the band waggon with dubious claims but CCG were clearly trying to weed these out - with no win no fee I suspect they don't want to waste their time with borderline cases.