This is inspired by the recent posts about doggy shark bait.

There's much more you can do to stop cruelty to animals by boycotting many items you see in the local shopping centre. All these are tested on animals (according to the websites of dozens of animal welfare organisations).

Good list here;
http://www.caringconsumer.com/searchcompany.asp

I'd give you more but some of you workers may get in trouble if you go on Animal Liberation Front website.

They advise you boycott anything made by;

GlaxoSmithKline (Lucozade, Ribena, Tums, Aquafresh, Nytol, Sensodyne) also have major links with britains Huntingdon Life Sciences, one of the worlds biggest vivisection companies.

Shell and British Petroleum (BP) - for testing pvc and petrol on animals via Huntingdon Life Sciences.

Arm & Hammer (Church & Dwight) toothpaste

Beiersdorf, Inc. (Nivea, Eucerin, Basis

Block Drug Co., Inc. (Polident, Sensodyne, Tegrin, Lava, Carpet Fresh)

Boyle-Midway (Reckitt & Colman)

Bristol-Myers Squibb Co. (Clairol, Ban Roll-On, Keri, Final Net)

Calvin Klein Cosmetics, (A division of Unilever

Carter-Wallace (Arrid, Lady's Choice, Nair, Pearl Drops)

Chesebrough-Ponds (Fabergé, Cutex, Vaseline)

Church & Dwight (Arm & Hammer)

Clairol, Inc. (Bristol-Myers Squibb)

Colgate-Palmolive

Cover Girl (Procter & Gamble)

Dana Perfumes (Alyssa Ashley)

Gillette Company

Jhirmack (Playtex)

Johnson & Johnson

Kimberly-Clark Corp. (Kleenex, Scott Paper, Huggies)

L'Oréal

Maybelline

Max Factor (Procter & Gamble)

Mennen Co. (Colgate-Palmolive)

Murphy-Phoenix Co. (Colgate-Palmolive)

Neutrogena Corp

Nivea (Beiersdorf

Noxell (Procter & Gamble)

Olay Co./Oil of Olay (Procter & Gamble)

Pantene (Procter & Gamble)

Procter & Gamble Co. (Aussie, Crest, Tide, Cover Girl, Max Factor, Giorgio)

Ralph Lauren Fragrances

Richardson-Vicks (Procter & Gamble)

Sanofi (Yves Saint Laurent)

SmithKline Beecham

SoftSoap Enterprises (Colgate-Palmolive)

Unilever (Lever Bros., Calvin Klein, Helene Curtis, Diversey)

Vidal Sassoon (Procter & Gamble)

so basically you have to make your own everything :D :D

So I have to be a smelly hair-ball with terrible teeth to be nice to animals ?

nah- im top of the food chain and im going to enjoy it :D

Originally posted by Agent Gypo
This is inspired by the recent posts about doggy shark bait.

There's much more you can do to stop cruelty to animals by boycotting many items ...

They advise you boycott anything made by;
...

Jhirmack (Playtex)

...

It's an outrage, Bunnies wearing Brassieres!

It would be helpful if someone could provide a list of "animal friendly" brands :)

Why don't we take the dogs and cats that were going to be fed to sharks, and give them to these companies... stops these animals being shark bait, and all they have to do is get dressed up in underwear and wear makeup... everyones happy!

Originally posted by scottf
nah- im top of the food chain and im going to enjoy it :D

Lets have a one-on-one with a bear or tiger and see who's top! :)

There really aren't that many brands there if you think about how many products are avaliable in the shops. Basically, its proctor & Gamble and a few others. I never use products that have been tested on animals (not knowlingly anyway) Its easier than you think. I haven't got bad hair or teeth as a result! Loads of people avoid buying Proctor and Gamble products to put pressure on them to stop. Once they've stopped (being the biggest) others are likely to follow suit.

I would never use a product that had been tested on animals. There are so many good companies to choose from. There is no excuse really.

Imagine this.
A little bunny is thinking to himself (just humour me!)
"i've had soap rubbed in my eye, a section of my skin has been took off and chemical rubbed in, i've been forced to swallow poisonous chemicals. But hey, my fur has never been so soft"!

Dont support this cruelty.

Originally posted by ZIPPYZ
I never use products that have been tested on animals (not knowlingly anyway) Its easier than you think. I haven't got bad hair or teeth as a result!

Which non-animal tested brands do you recommend?

Originally posted by Andy
It would be helpful if someone could provide a list of "animal friendly" brands :)

The website I listed has links to pdf and word documents available to download that list companies that do and that do not test on animals.

Or I could email it to you.

Before I reply, am I allowed to reccommend products on this forum? Dont want to get in trouble!

Zip.

Originally posted by ZIPPYZ
Before I reply, am I allowed to reccommend products on this forum? Dont want to get in trouble!

Zip. well youve certainly put the" Dog" in, excuse the pun,for the ones you are telling us not to use:loopy:

Originally posted by ZIPPYZ
Before I reply, am I allowed to reccommend products on this forum? Dont want to get in trouble!

Zip.

Don't see why not.

Originally posted by roughy101
well youve certainly put the" Dog" in, excuse the pun,for the ones you are telling us not to use:loopy:

Eh?

I'm not telling you not to use anything, its up to your conscience.

Here are a few of the products i'm using at the moment, that are animal friendly.

Clinique stuff for face wash, moisturiser etc.
Revlon and Estee Lauder for make up.
Charles Worthington stuff for my hair.
Ecover for household cleaning stuff.
Boots own stuff, for everything.
Lush for something different.

Avon, Clarins, Dermatolgica and ASDA own brand, Coop own brand.

There are loads more as well that I use but cant list them all!

Happy shopping!

Zip.

Originally posted by ZIPPYZ
I'm not telling you not to use anything, its up to your conscience.

Here are a few of the products i'm using at the moment, that are animal friendly.

Clinique stuff for face wash, moisturiser etc.
Revlon and Estee Lauder for make up.
Charles Worthington stuff for my hair.
Ecover for household cleaning stuff.
Boots own stuff, for everything.
Lush for something different.

Avon, Clarins, Dermatolgica and ASDA own brand, Coop own brand.

There are loads more as well that I use but cant list them all!

Happy shopping!

Zip.

So out of interest (without starting a plastic sandal wearing debate) how is this stuff tested and how does the consumer know the product is safe to use.
I for one like to know that a product is safe to use for me and my family and isnt going to peel my skin off after a few washes.

(DISCLAIMER)

This is not aimed as a dig at those against animal testing,but a simple question in relation to the safety of untested products.
I trust this will now prevent my family from being kidknapped and petrol bombs thrown at my car by various fanatical types.

Let's not get too precious about all of this. The Animal Rights( lets dig up the remains of some old lady) brigade specialise in propaganda, as do most large organisations. It's true that certain products are not tested on animals, but what they don't tell you is that all the ingredients contained within those products are. So judge for yourself.

What should happen is that any product which as involved Annimal testing in any way or form should have to print so on their package, much rather like they have to put nutritional advice on food. Then this way we can make up our own minds on whether we use the products or not.

To just not give people the choice is probably as wrong as the testing, why? because its another step towards facism.

Originally posted by cloudybay
The Animal Rights( lets dig up the remains of some old lady) brigade specialise in propaganda

I love the irony in that statement! That's a nice bit of anti-Animal Rights propaganda, Cloudybay. Some evil people dug up the remains of one old lady.... hardly representative of the majority of people who care about animals, as I suspect you are really already aware!

The vast majority of people who are concerned about animal rights care at least as much about humans as they do about other animals.

Originally posted by Patchy
I love the irony in that statement! That's a nice bit of anti-Animal Rights propaganda, Cloudybay. Some evil people dug up the remains of one old lady....

Hardly ironic Patchy...............The ALF are the Animal Rights Brigade............and human life means nothing to them........sorry if you failed to understand my reference to a group of extremists.........not animal lovers in general.

Originally posted by cloudybay
Hardly ironic Patchy...............The ALF are the Animal Rights Brigade............and human life means nothing to them.........the rest of us just have it in full perspective..........sorry if you failed to understand my reference to a group of extremists.........not animal lovers in general.

I don't think most of the "Animal Rights Brigade" (if by that you mean all the people who campaign for animal rights) have anything to do with the ALF (Animal Liberation Front), which I believe is an illegal organisation.

I'm sure you are right Patchy

Tango2.
Just because a product isn't tested on animals doesn't mean it might be dangerous. They are reputable companies i've listed, not very likely to make you skin peel off!
Other tests are used. Such as Cell and tissue cultures. Cells are taken from humans and grown in labs. These cells are gathered from post mortems, surgical procedures etc. Theses cultures are highly sensitive to chemicals so they know if they are likely to be dangerous or not. I trust something that has been tested on human skin much more than I do if its been tested on animal skin. Which lets face it, isn't the same.
They also use computer models and imaging. Don't know too much about this though.

Testing cosmetics on Animals is illigal in the EU. That proves more that the tests aren't justified or needed.

And for information, i'm not a member of the ALF or anything like. I dont go around digging up grannies! Theses tests are unnecessary and cruel and I refuse to support it by buying the companies products.

Zip.

Shell and BP also test their petrol etc on animals. I avoid buying my petrol from these companies. Super Market stuff is cheaper anyway.

Zip.

Originally posted by cloudybay
The ALF are the Animal Rights Brigade............and human life means nothing to them........

I don't think that's true. They take radical and sometimes violent action against people who torture animals for a living. That doesn't necessarily mean they do not value human life.

Originally posted by Agent Gypo


There's much more you can do to stop cruelty to animals


..... like not eating meat?

Originally posted by Disco_Cat
..... like not eating meat?

Yup. But for those who can't or wont give up meat, it is easy to buy alternative products to those I mentioned.

Before i start, i can honestly say that i've never firebombed a chemical company, cosmetic company or any other type of company that may test on animals, neither have i firebombed or attacked any employees of such companies.

However, i do not buy any products which i believe to be tested on animals as it simply isn't necessary. I don not align myself with any Animal Rights organisations, but i do know this, there motives are not simply profit like the mtoives of animal testing companies most definitely are. What do they stand to gain by deliberately passing on bad information?

As for being at the top of the food chain, well as a species human kind may be, but as individuals, well, that's another matter entirely...

Testing on animals for the vanity of human kind is not necessary and it is not necessary to buy the products that have been tested. This isn't about killing animals, it's about torturing them. I personally make my stand by not buying those products and advising people (whom i feel i know well enough) to do the same.

I know the Body Shop had a bad time of things a few years ago, but they don't test on animals and agreed to a fixed cut off date for animal testing. Other companies that don't test include Charles Worthington, King of Shaves and Co-op own brand. Avon claim not to test, but some people strongly diasagree...

Top thread agent gypo - well done for starting it and the links provided :clap:

one final thought. one company (whose name i forget, but i think they are a trendy nail varnish and make-up manufacturer) has the following statement on its products:

'we do not test our products on animals - why would anyone?'

says it all really.

Originally posted by Agent Gypo
They take radical and sometimes violent action against people who torture animals for a living. That doesn't necessarily mean they do not value human life.

Taking violent action qualifies in my book. Just because you disagree with a certain principle or practice doesn't give you the right to violate the perpetrators.

I quite agree, Cloudybay. Animal Rights activists have been found guilty of the most barbaric and perverse 'revenge' attacks upon so-called perpetrators of cruelty towards animals. When they are not lewdly disporting themselves with corpses, or firebombing the homes of vivisectionists, they are releasing Mink and other alien predators into the countryside. I have little time for them.

I have had my share of encounters with them too. Can't a man engage in a bit of badger-baiting with bull-and-terrier dogs, in the convivial company of his fellows , without a crowd of shrieking yahoos and merry-Andrews spoiling things? One hardly has a chance to use the tongs these days, never might enter one's dog to quarry. The same is true in the case of Swan hunting. My team of rakehelly ne'er-do-wells, cutpurses and backwoodsmen had but clubbed three of the fierce creatures to death at Rivelin, when our ancient and manly sport was disrupted by the self-styled 'warriors' of the Animal Rights fringe, forcing us to make haste. How we used to enjoy the rough merriment of evening Deer-hunting at Chatsworth Park, racing through the woods in our Landrovers, lights blaring, cross-bows a-ready. Not any more. The ALF have put paid to that ancient rural tradition too. Will they leave us anything? Never mind, I have booked a nice holiday in the Faroe Islands at Pilot Whale-culling time. There are no Animal Rights fanatics there!

Keep Rural Traditions Alive.

My dear Timo,

You really must join me on one of my chav hunting trips. I tend to combine it with Amoeba castration in Dudley, but have been recently targeted by the ' Single Cell liberation Front' so my activities have been somewhat curtailed. I have great hopes for my impending Upper Voltan excursion, where I believe they still throw Christians to the lions.