EKBJJ NORTH's NEW WEB SITE [Archive]

blahblah!

10-10-2010, 16:50

the_rage

10-10-2010, 17:13

i am amazed that the rage's effort to get publicity for this sport has actually turned into an excuse to slag off other clubs!!! as far as i can tell, many of you know each other and may even have trained together at some point, so i really don't get how a common interest is constantly turned into a battle. as a newbie to the sport i have met only a few of you, but have found each club to be as good as the next, all for different reasons. this sport gets little enough publicity as it is, so maybe you should consider supporting each other instead of 'my club's better than yours' all the time!

People should see for themselves, check GB Sheffield out, Check EKBJJ North out, check out bjj yorkshire/Derbyshire, Go and train with (brown Belt Tim) in Chesterfied, check out Evolution in Riddings. There are many clubs to visit. Try them all out and see what ethos is good for you.

Anyway love, peace and happy rolling!

Carl_Malibu

10-10-2010, 17:14

blahblah! you make a very good point. I think the issue may be with the contentious statement on that new site. BJJ seems (from a newbies point of view) very much a sport where your claims need to be backed up by some substance. This might be in terms of lineage, or tournament wins, but it is important - in my view - to prevent or at least slow down the McDojo-isation of the sport, where people are getting a new belt every 3 months and paying £50 for the pleasure of a "grading".

So, whilst it might appear militant, the attempts to keep sweeping unsubstantiated claims in check are an effort to maintain some authenticity to the style.

Again, newbie view, but thats how it feels from my couple of months rolling!

the_rage

10-10-2010, 17:18

Squiggs

10-10-2010, 17:18

loading...

All it needs is a flashing screen border and it'll be the 1980s all over again!
Then...when it loads...it's only a screen where you have to cling "enter" to progress.

Look, if someone has clicked on a link, it means they DO wish to enter. Not look at a pretty splash screen then click something ELSE to enter. THat gets irritating.

I'd ditch the intro screen for one thing...the main page looks just fine as a first page.

Next, I'd provide an HTML version. Not everyone has, or wants, flash turned on by default

RossP

10-10-2010, 18:09

So, whilst it might appear militant, the attempts to keep sweeping unsubstantiated claims in check are an effort to maintain some authenticity to the style.
Again, newbie view, but thats how it feels from my couple of months rolling!

I think that is a very good statement which should be respected by most of the BJJ guys posting.

People should see for themselves, check GB Sheffield out, Check EKBJJ North out, check out bjj yorkshire/Derbyshire, Go and train with (brown Belt Tim) in Chesterfied, check out Evolution in Riddings. There are many clubs to visit. Try them all out and see what ethos is good for you.
Anyway love, peace and happy rolling!

So try a few clubs and see for yourself

Personally having trained with all of the above some of whom for a good few years and including i believe yourself.
i am more than confident to repeat my previous statement:
Gracie Barra is the most prestigious, Has competition winners at all levels and provides the Highest quality BJJ tuition in Sheffield.

Also Gracie Barra Sheffield is about to open Forged MMA which will provide the highest quality MMA training in the city in the new Forged MMA specific built gym

blahblah!

10-10-2010, 18:13

RossP

10-10-2010, 18:14

Also after watching this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOUauhxWHAI

In a thread discussing BJJ Yorkshire/Derbyshire by the BJJ police im not really sure what Steve is teaching anymore...

RossP

10-10-2010, 18:17

ok, so the website needs some work, but surely since it's new feedback rather than offensive comments would be more helpful! isn't the goal of ekbjjnorth the same as everyone else on here? to provide information about the sport and to take part/teach in the way possible way each of us can! when trying to find a place to train i found info on here and on individual websites helpful. the info on the new site IS helpful and to newbies like me, that's all that matters.

When wild statements like previously mentioned are made in BJJ in the UK and worldwide, people will make comments on it.

BJJ is still a relatively new sport and as so people can check legitimacy of grades and heritage, also its a fighting sport so wild claims can be checked.

This isn't a new topic of conversation for most discussing it here, im glad as a newbie you found information and have gotten into BJJ wherever you may train.

blahblah!

10-10-2010, 18:28

bigstew

10-10-2010, 18:37

To be honest claims of being the best are always invidious as it is subjective. Personally I train at the forge GB Sheffield and cannot imagine a place I would be happier or that would have developed me into a medal winner. Also alot if what makes a club great is the people and I feel we have a world class coaching setup and some awesome team mates which again ranks it as number one for me personally

Carcass

10-10-2010, 18:38

Also after watching this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOUauhxWHAI

In a thread discussing BJJ Yorkshire/Derbyshire by the BJJ police im not really sure what Steve is teaching anymore...
LOL! Why can't we all run around holding hands?
Although the 3-man clotheline is becoming a popular technique on the street, so that definitely has real-world relevance.

RossP

10-10-2010, 18:38

yes, bjj is relatively new, so when people are considering getting into it, looking for info and being affronted by every club being offensive about every other club in the area, you must know that puts people off! as for the comment in question, surely that is a matter of opinion, incapable as anybody is of proving or disproving the fact? as far as i can tell it would be expected that gracie barra have won more comps etc than ekbjj north as they have existed as a club for a hell of a lot longer... or am i mistaken?

Went back and read through the thread and could not find 1 single offensive statement about EKBJJ, you keep saying everyone is being offensive, but disagreeing and arguing with a WILD statement like that is just my opinion and that of the others who have posted.

Also no one on here has saying they are looking for info on BJJ has been affronted in any way and again NO offensive comments have been made. Maybe slow down with that accusation. These discussion have gotten much more heated in the past, i think like you even mention people should be allowed to express their opinions.

The Facts are simple and can be proven really if you knew the history of the situation you would understand. Ask the instructors at the other clubs where they started or used to train. Im not looking to argue with you as like you say you are a newbie to the sport and i cant be bothered to go back over every argument and the history of BJJ in sheffield, if you search on the forum i'm sure you could find more information to bring you up to date.

As far as i know EKBJJ north are a new club but the main people are not, they have been competing for a while and the competition history and medal numbers speak for themselves...

blahblah!

10-10-2010, 19:03

RossP

10-10-2010, 19:11

i do apologise if i didn't make myself entirely clear... as i have already said, i have researched clubs both on here and on individual sites so i have read up on instructors and histories, and have read a hell of a lot of bitching between clubs!
my idea of taking part in this sport is to train with descent fun people who are there to enjoy their health and friends. i may at some point decide to enter competitions, but having 2 small kids and a full time job i know where my priorities are. having a medal or not doesn't make me any less dedicated or my instructors any less impressive, it means i will always put my family ahead of a sport.
personally, i respect your opinion, and the fact that i am a newbie shouldn't make my opinion any less important or viable.

No need to apologise, maybe its my mistake. Glad you did your research and are happy where you are.

You seem to have a right idea of 'taking part' in the sport.

Now the medal statement i never said you were less dedicated or that it would make your instructors less impressive and wasn't implying as such.

I never said i didn't respect you're opinion just that (at the time) thinking you didn't know the situational history i didn't want to argue with you for no reason over points which have been covered in much more detail and by prettier people than me.

I think you have taken a lot of the posts the wrong way, as i said before i haven't said or seen anything offensive written here towards EKBJJ, not knowing you i don't know if you are aware i know Eddie Kone, Mark, John, Steve M and Tim and get along with them all.

The main point is for everyone to go out train hard, have fun and to progress in the sport and to also help the sport progress forward as it has so well over the past 10yrs i have been blessed to be involved in it.

blahblah!

10-10-2010, 19:23

as of yet i haven't been forced to make a decision as to where i will train permanently. most of those you named, as well as others, have been very supportive and understanding of the fact that everyone is looking for something different when making that decision!
maybe i'm wrong, but as far as i'm aware steve m is no longer associated with eddie, mark and john (ekbjjnorth)?
i totally agree with your main point and look forward to meeting and training with those of greater experience that myself.

JimJitsu

10-10-2010, 19:26

de·fini·tive (dē fin′ə tiv, di-)

adjective

1.that decides or settles in a final way; decisive; conclusive: a definitive answer
2.most nearly complete and accurate; authoritative: a definitive biography
3.serving to define; limiting or distinguishing precisely: definitive details
4.designating or of a postage stamp for regular use, issued for an unlimited period

hmmmmmm

blahblah!

10-10-2010, 19:33

RossP

10-10-2010, 19:35

I would hope you are never forced into making a decision, Alot of our guys visit and train at various other Gyms with Highly respected teams and coaches. You should be able to train where you like, obviously when you find a Team that suits you the most whether its convenience of travel, price or Level & Quality of tuition.... or whatever then most people will stick with that.

You'll find most instructor are very understanding when getting a new student in, but you are looking for should be the most important factor in your decision.

Neither Steve or Tim are EKBJJ affiliates maybe i should have stated that they were separate but i thought most would comprehend the difference as most people already know this.

But it was in reference to claims i/we were being offensive to every other BJJ club mentioned.

Personally i think you came on this thread to defend your club, You registered just for this thread and with the name 'BlahBlah!' and came out making accusations of abuse towards your club which were not warranted and you cant back up. You have calmed down in the last few posts and hope that pattern continues.

As now we are discussing BJJ which is what i'm happy to do all day long.

My advice would be train everywhere you can, We did not have the luxury of numerous clubs within an hour much less 5 hours drive of sheffield back in the day.

JimJitsu

10-10-2010, 19:38

BJJ Teams with the most Gold Medals

Team Titles
Gracie Barra 164
Alliance 89
Gracie Humaita 76
Nova Uniao 58
Brasa 35
Carlson Gracie Team 27
Brazilian Top Team 21

(Data is aggregated from several sources of predominant BJJ tournaments including IBJJF tournament results from 1996 - 2009)

RossP

10-10-2010, 19:41

... and maybe those who train there do think that way. again, it's a matter of opinion.

Grammar is not a matter of opinion... unfortunately

JimJitsu

10-10-2010, 19:44

anyway ... wasn't brazillian jiujitsu all about teams challanging each other and other martial arts? so lets not get all "british" and understand the original culture of the sport

BJJ has always been about proving its effectiveness in a combat situation

JimJitsu

10-10-2010, 19:46

... and maybe those who train there do think that way. again, it's a matter of opinion.

what a "definative" personal opinion? lmao:hihi:

JimJitsu

10-10-2010, 19:52

... and maybe those who train there do think that way. again, it's a matter of opinion.

ok then ... maybe add

[in our honest opinion]

Even you can't be stupid enough to know that if you claim to be number 1 / the best / most authorative or whatever its going to be challenged, thats life

In business, sport or whatever ... if tesco say they are number 1 ... asda dont stand by and go ... ok ... yes well of course you are

and if you do make that claim ... you can't start crying if someone questions it? if you don't like the response, don't make the claim? simples

blahblah!

10-10-2010, 20:13

nobody is denying a challenge is necessary! as someone who is still trying different places, it is reading these challenges that sparks interest! if the people who train there believe it to be better than any where else are they not permitted to refer to it as definative??? that is personal opinion!!!

rossp: i asked only about steve m as i am aware there was previously an association between him and mark that ended a little awkwardly. i am quite able to comprehend such things, but i would rather educate myself with fact than hearsay!!! as for defending my club, i think i have clearly stated i have no club. i am new, as in a few weeks, and have no intention of alienating myself from one club in favour of another. i only wish to train to the best of my ability where ever i decide is best for me!

my grammar may not be perfect, and believe me it hurts so much to be told that, but at least i am willing to look beyond an iffy decision where wording is concerned and ask if the place is actually any good.

RossP

10-10-2010, 20:27

Again going back to being snooty and trying to be witty when i am being more than polite to you about all this.

Steve and EKBJJ are no longer affiliated, if you already knew this then why ask me or mention at all for that matter.

Well ok then you came on here just to argue, as i stated for the previous reasons mentioned except the defending your club, well you must just like to sit behind a keyboard and talk trash, i don't know.
As i've already said you came on and posted about made up abuse thrown at other clubs which i still cant find, can you?

I was trying to be polite but it seems its no use with you. The way you have carried on it looks like you have a side and are arguing for it whatever that side may be.

I didn't comment on you're personal grammar did i, i commented that the fact that Grammar is in existence is not people opinion as you argued in a earlier post.

Maybe if you stopped reading this thread like its a fight and more of a discussion you would understand my posts in the way they are meant and not in the 'aggressive' or 'rude' manner in which you seem to be interpreting them.

P.S Big LOLs at any challenges happening between clubs in sheffield, no one outside of GB would show up.

bigstew

10-10-2010, 20:29

blahblah!

10-10-2010, 20:34

[QUOTE=JimJitsu;6769450]

Even you can't be stupid enough to know that if you claim to be number 1 / the best / most authorative or whatever its going to be challenged, thats life [QUOTE]

my apologies, thought you would have understood this was the challenge comment i was referring to

the_rage

10-10-2010, 20:35

333 people have looked at this post.

As a guess, 100 have at least checked out the website.

Brill

RossP

10-10-2010, 20:41

Thanks i accept you're heart felt apology.

Fully understand you're and JimJitsu's reference, don't really care.

Oh its because Definitive make no Grammatical sense in that statement or the statement on the website as was posted earlier by someone else and again the fact that grammar does exist and should preferably be used isn't personal opinion.

RossP

10-10-2010, 20:42

333 people have looked at this post.

As a guess, 100 have at least checked out the website.

Brill

See how good i am for your website hits. :hihi:

blahblah!

10-10-2010, 20:47

How I see it is that you find a place that suits you, personally I have never been happier with a team, coach or gym as I am with GB Sheffield. The fact that we have a number of people now from other gyms who cane to us speaks volumes but at the end of the day plough your own furrow and find what suits you, I did it and am happy I wish the same to anyone else.

thanks bigstew, that's exactly what i'm hoping for. from what i've been told it's the team around you and the support you receive that really makes the sport great and i hope to find that eventually.

the rage; hope things go well with the site, once it's fine tuned it should be a good one!

JimJitsu

10-10-2010, 20:57

333 people have looked at this post.

As a guess, 100 have at least checked out the website.

Brill

top retort!

but ... thats if they didn't go make a brew and forget about it while it was still loading ;)

JimJitsu

10-10-2010, 21:01

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH_KMladBi0&feature=player_embedded

JimJitsu

10-10-2010, 21:02

i went there ... lols

emmie

10-10-2010, 21:05

OH MY GOD!!! Whats all the whining bout on here?! The_Rage is simply letting people know about a new website and it seems to have been taken over by this RossP (who hasn't helped the number of hits as in percentage terms 100 out of 333 is not that fab). As an innocent bystander I get that RossP is clearly trying to promote his clubs admirable record.........however he just sounds like an arrogant piece of work and if I was researching a new club the character of the people who are attending would be part of the assessment and he is providing negative advertisement.

Get this thread back on track - check out the new website anyone who is reading this and decide for yourself. If you have any genuine issues with the factual content of the site can I suggest contacting the administrator of the site directly and discussing it with them. Be proactive not negative

RossP

10-10-2010, 21:14

As an innocent bystander I get that RossP is clearly trying to promote his clubs admirable record.........however he just sounds like an arrogant piece of work and if I was researching a new club the character of the people who are attending would be part of the assessment and he is providing negative advertisement.

Thanks for that Great input and your judgement on my character from 1 thread discussing our sports politics :loopy::loopy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH_KMladBi0&feature=player_embedded

Great post, the video says all that needs to be said.

Wroughton

10-10-2010, 21:36

Be fair Emmie I don't think Ross comes over as arrogant at all.

He's made some reasonable points on any number of posts on this thread.

If I was looking for a club I'd regard him as knowledgeable and open for people to train wherever they wanted.

Btw I like the website and it didn't take long to load.

JimJitsu

10-10-2010, 21:42

Get this thread back on track - check out the new website anyone who is reading this and decide for yourself.

ok emsy baby will do, i did go to have a look ... apart from the long wait ... the site has some really good sexy graphics! but if you click on a picture there is no in browser way of getting back to the site without using your back button.

but ....

as for the claim on the front page .... and i will take it to mean most authorative or conclusively the best for the sake of the grammatical argument ....

forget sheffield clubs altogether for a minute, theres Braulio Estima, Victor Estima, Lagarto, Ben Poppleton amongst others who "personally" teach out of the north ... so i think that IS up for debate

RossP

10-10-2010, 22:20

Wroughton: thanks for your comments i'm glad everyone who reads the thread doesn't interpret it the emmie did (who i don't believe is an random bystander, a earlier dated post she said she had many friends who had gotten into BJJ and loved it)

JimJitsu: You are correct there are many great clubs around the north people have that luxury now i dont know why people don't travel to train more often.

Samurai: thanks brother your wisdom will help heal the world.

Final thoughts are, Bjj is highly regarded by it's practitioners. They are with justification proactive in ensuring the truth about the art, it's practitioners, instructors etc. is there to be seen.

First things first, a degree of hyperbole is to be expected in advertising.

However Blahblah says "i am amazed that the rage's effort to get publicity for this sport has actually turned into an excuse to slag off other clubs!!!"

Well it's not publicity for the SPORT; it's publicity for a particular CLUB and its stature. As such a logical thing for readers to do is attempt to validate those claims.

This club/www is not a charitable venture but a business pitching for customers (students). In open Market terms you should be able to justify the claims you make about your 'product'. Here the product is bjj and the club's stature.

Don't be surprised if others, particularly your competitors, challenge your assertions upon a factual basis; the intelligent should expect it and be able to deal with it comprehensively. They certainly shouldn't be offended.

If a trader makes untrue/unjustifiable claims he gets caught by trading standards or the advertising regulators.

So you should only make claims you can establish factually. Be ready for the bjj equivalent of the pepsi or daz challenge :-)

Carcass

10-10-2010, 22:43

Be ready for the bjj equivalent of the pepsi or daz challenge :-)
Scoochabutt, monch, treeong/armobwar. Apaga.

PORRA frens!

DrLazer

10-10-2010, 22:53

Hi,

I am the site administrator/creator, If you have had any problems with the website or would like to suggest how it could be improved I would be grateful if you would be so kind as to contact me at crgtlr@googlemail.com with your comments.

The site is written in Flash and if your browser does not have Flash installed you will need to get the latest version from here http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

If you have problems loading the website it may be because your machine may be out of date or is running slow for other reasons. The site has been tested on XP/Vista/Windows 7 on an old slow laptop - the loading times are usually under 10 seconds (the whole site loads, it's not just for the intro) on a 512 broadband connection which are times we are happy with. If you are attempting to view the website on a mobile device please check that Flash is supported.

I personally train at EKBJJ North, its a great club where everyone gets on and respects each other. We are affiliated with Eddie Kone, the only Black Belt under Royler Gracie outside of the US and Brazil and frequently run seminars held in South Yorkshire. If you would like to attend a class please check the website for times or if you are interested in seminars please feel free to email me for more details, everybody is welcome - hope to see you soon.

themadrev

11-10-2010, 09:04

Check out EKBJJ NORTHS new web site:

www.ekbjjnorth.com

Hi Harry, long time no roll! Hope you, James, Chris, Doug, Mark etc are all well.

Look, in BJJ we are all very proud of our teams. In a sense BJJ has been built on the rivalry between Gracie Barra, Alliance, BTT etc. When I walked into the Combat Club in Abu Dhabi (run by BTT) with a Gracie Barra tee shirt on, a very large Brazilian said to me 'We hate Gracie Barra!' Whoops. But the other side of the rivalry is that all the teams are connected and related to each other. So after the inital comment in Abu Dhabi I couldn't have been better treated when I was there; because I was another BJJ guy.

I've trained at Gracie Barra for about 6 (6 1/2?? I'm starting to lose count...it's old age) years. So, of course I believe that Gracie Barra is the best, would it not be strange if I didn't think that? Nonetheless, I have a great respect for the guys from EKBJJ as when I couldn't get to my Gracie Barra class on a Wednesday I trained (with my instructor's blessing) there for over two years. I was welcomed with open arms and a number of those named above kicked my ass on a regular basis. Gracie Barra then moved to my side of town and I left on good terms with all the guys at Graves. That's where the respect comes from in BJJ, it's what you do on the mat, not on websites etc., that counts.

If it was me I wouldn't put on a website, "the definitive bjj club in the north of England", but that's up to EKBJJ. As John has pointed out there's at least ten BJJ clubs in the north of England that overshadow any of the Sheffield clubs. If you express an opinion like the one above you have to accept that others will express contrary opinions. If it's just about stirring things up and getting more hits then well done you obviously succeeded!!

Finally to Blahblah! like you I'm a family man with an incredibly busy job. I've no desire, or ability, to be a champion. I try and get on the mats around four times a week. But it's the champions I train with that help me get better, who push me, and an instructor who knows me and knows where I need to improve that keep me focussed and motivated. People do BJJ for different reasons, I want to be as good as I can possibly be-with all my limitations-and that's why I chose to train at Gracie Barra. You may do BJJ for different reasons. I just hope you find a club that suits you and that you'll continue to train. BJJ is an amazing, addictive art, which is why people are so passionate about it, I hope you too will fall in love with it. Cheers, Noel

the_rage

11-10-2010, 10:36

Hi Noel,

long time no see. The guys and myself are well. Im glad your still living the BJJ dream and enjoying it.
I feel the same about going to other clubs. Its always in the back of my mind if they will accept me for who I train under. We all clearly enjoy the sport. I have enjoyed training at GB Sheffield a few years ago when we had no classes on. I really learned some good stuff.

I didnt make this post to 'stir anything up' I thought it would be a nice (free) way of getting people to have a look at a club that I enjoy going to. I have no imput into the teaching or the website.

Anyway, all the best mate.

H

themadrev

11-10-2010, 10:43

Hi Harry, Sorry, in terms of the 'stirring things up' comment, I didn't mean you but rather the comment on the website. I know you're too nice for that ;)!!

I'm still in the same place, so if your work schedule is any more flexible, I've still a set of mats at church. All the best, Noel

the_rage

11-10-2010, 10:51

RossP

11-10-2010, 21:00

See we all get along really. How can anyone have problems with a holyman?

themadrev

11-10-2010, 21:09

See we all get along really. How can anyone have problems with a holyman?

Bless you my son! :D Thanks for the roll tonight. Noel

agermoses

11-10-2010, 22:06

My dads harder than your dad

RossP

11-10-2010, 22:15

Bless you my son! :D Thanks for the roll tonight. Noel

Was awesome and always a pleasure sir.

BJJMAN

11-10-2010, 22:22

My dads harder than your dad

no he isnt:loopy:

BJJMAN

11-10-2010, 22:24

Why can't we all just get together and have a group hug??

agermoses

11-10-2010, 22:24

Oh .... I see

the_rage

11-10-2010, 23:19

Over 1000 views!

Tick tick - boom!

:)

Yes, before you say it, I know its crashed 50 percent of computers, 48 percent have got bored of it loading.

But 1000 people now know of EKBJJ North :)

RossP

11-10-2010, 23:50

Website is good, has loaded fine and fast each time i tried it. Good job on your website guys.

Lol @ True, yes i got the feeling that guy was upset and jealous as well.

eatshmeat

12-10-2010, 07:56

is it true gracie barra members get a stripe on there belt after a set amount of time?

that smells of mc-dojo to me a little

Truebjj

12-10-2010, 08:37

is it true gracie barra members get a stripe on there belt after a set amount of time?

that smells of mc-dojo to me a little

That's just not true!! They have to pay vast amounts of money to me first then if I like them then I'll think about giving them a stripe.

chefkicker

12-10-2010, 08:45

is it true gracie barra members get a stripe on there belt after a set amount of time?

that smells of mc-dojo to me a little

Was that meant to be a joke? You cant get your stripes without approval from Legarto can you ? (or am I missing something?)

Truebjj

12-10-2010, 09:03

No Farad,

I pay Lagarto £3000 a year plus to be able to give stripes. Don't tell anyone but I then charge everyone huge amounts for training to pay this and trick them into lengthy contracts they can't get out of unless the pay even more money but again that's between us.

I got my belt at a reasonable price of £8000 and a years training

eatshmeat

12-10-2010, 09:17

ok then,m it seems like it was just a rumor.

So to confirm this. new members at barra should not expect a stripe after an agreed length of mat time then?

chefkicker

12-10-2010, 09:30

ians2

12-10-2010, 10:05

Drtwazer my brand new Apple Ipad will not let me view your website can you help!

Truebjj

12-10-2010, 10:22

ok then,m it seems like it was just a rumor.

So to confirm this. new members at barra should not expect a stripe after an agreed length of mat time then?

No ur right, I promise them exactly when they will get there stripes because if not they may leave and train at a better club. Then how am I going to put petrol in my merc, come on!!!

Truebjj

12-10-2010, 10:25

Sorry may have caused confusion with some of my students, the promise only comes with the 3 year agreement.

Truebjj

12-10-2010, 10:35

.....and the Ultimate SWAT team gi that's on special offer at £199.

chefkicker

12-10-2010, 10:38

.....and the Ultimate SWAT team gi that's on special offer at £199.

How come i was never offered the SWAT team GI for Riyadh? Or do you only do them for adults? Im assuming the kids version is £149?

Big Mick

12-10-2010, 11:30

chefkicker

12-10-2010, 12:30

I Have been reading this thread as im looking for a place to train I have been for about a month or so. I've checked out gb sheffield a while ago and it looked a top place to go however i did notice a poster on the wall on a guide line on months & years it took for each stripe and belt. I have never checked out ekbjj North but by the website that looks good too.. but after reading all this rubbish on here i wont be going to any of these clubs ..thanks guys.!

Mick,
Just out of curiousity, what in this thread actually put you off? I understand that the thread started off being about a BJJ club called "Eddie konate's BJJ" and its website and it ended up being hijacked.

Now why would this thread put you off going to either GB or EKBJJ?

Serious question by the way

Big Mick

12-10-2010, 12:50

I just want a bjj club were i can knuckle down. these clubs seem to be on each others case maybe to much politics. both look great clubs tho just not right ones for me.

DrLazer

12-10-2010, 13:41

I just want a bjj club were i can knuckle down. these clubs seem to be on each others case maybe to much politics. both look great clubs tho just not right ones for me.

It's not EKBJJs fault the thread was hijacked. If you read back over it is worth noticing that nobody from EKBJJ has really said much on here (only me and the_rage train there). I would recommend you try out as many clubs as possible to find the one that is best for you. At EKBJJ there is no pressure to train exclusively with us and you would always be welcome to attend any class/seminar.

DrLazer

12-10-2010, 13:42

Drtwazer my brand new Apple Ipad will not let me view your website can you help!

If you have any technical problems please email me as mentioned above.

RossP

12-10-2010, 14:12

I've checked out gb sheffield a while ago and it looked a top place to go however i did notice a poster on the wall on a guide line on months & years it took for each stripe and belt.

Highlighted the important part of that post, its a guideline not a 'definite' promise of promotion. Maybe think and train a little more.

I just want a bjj club were i can knuckle down. these clubs seem to be on each others case maybe to much politics. both look great clubs tho just not right ones for me.

Not to many politics at all, just people are gonna question other teams when they claim to 'be the Definitive BJJ club in the north', Imagine the 'politics' of someone posting on the forum saying United or Wednesday are the Definitive Football club in the north and see the banter that would follow.

It's not EKBJJs fault the thread was hijacked. If you read back over it is worth noticing that nobody from EKBJJ has really said much on here (only me and the_rage train there).

Lol i guess the GB haters are just totally unrelated to you lot then, random people LOL.
You posted links to a website with a wildly inaccurate claim that you cant back up, thats why people have challenged it for reasons explained earlier. This is open market advertising, don't make claims that are not justified or factual.

RossP

12-10-2010, 14:15

Over 1000 views!

Yes, before you say it, I know its crashed 50 percent of computers, 48 percent have got bored of it loading.

But 1000 people now know of EKBJJ North :)

Lets get it in perspective a thread about Farhad maybe fighting other forum members has over 3400 views.

Also are you going to post your website link on CW and EFN?

RossP

12-10-2010, 14:22

is it true gracie barra members get a stripe on there belt after a set amount of time?
that smells of mc-dojo to me a little

Listen 'Eatshmeat' come and pop down to train, i will pay for your session.

MelW82

12-10-2010, 14:44

I just want a bjj club were i can knuckle down. these clubs seem to be on each others case maybe to much politics. both look great clubs tho just not right ones for me.

Hey Big Mick. If you're looking for a good place to knuckle down and train BJJ you could do worse than to check out Sheffield Martial Arts Centre :)
We offer legit BJJ training under Italo Ferreira (Brazilian Black Belt, you should definitely check him out!!) and our weekday classes are taught by Mark Hayes, who at the moment is a certified Blue Belt under Italo. You can find more details here: http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=638993 or on our website: www.sheffieldmartialartscentre.co.uk

Now that the plug is over (!!!) I just want to say that you shouldn't let this thread put you off training at EKBJJ North or GB Sheffield if they are where you want to train. Mark Bottom, Jon Keeley, The Rage and a few other EKBJJ guys have attended a number of our seminars and they've always been really friendly and professional. Mark's BJJ is also pretty damn good, and the few times I've rolled with him he's wiped the floor with me :)

DrLazer

12-10-2010, 14:53

You posted links to a website with a wildly inaccurate claim that you cant back up, thats why people have challenged it for reasons explained earlier. This is open market advertising, don't make claims that are not justified or factual.

Thankyou for your opinion Ross, we will take it on board.

RossP

12-10-2010, 15:06

Website is good, has loaded fine and fast each time i tried it. Good job on your website guys.

Posted earlier

Big Mick

12-10-2010, 15:11

It's not EKBJJs fault the thread was hijacked. If you read back over it is worth noticing that nobody from EKBJJ has really said much on here (only me and the_rage train there). I would recommend you try out as many clubs as possible to find the one that is best for you. At EKBJJ there is no pressure to train exclusively with us and you would always be welcome to attend any class/seminar.

Yes your right , i've read back and ekbjj's thread was hijacked then attacked on a status they made of their opinion. I will check out ekbjj along with the others thanks.

DrLazer

12-10-2010, 15:32

Yes your right , i've read back and ekbjj's thread was hijacked then attacked on a status they made of their opinion. I will check out ekbjj along with the others thanks.

Hope to see you there Mick. The class times are on the website. Feel free to PM or email me if you need any more info.

the_rage

12-10-2010, 16:35

Lets get it in perspective a thread about Farhad maybe fighting other forum members has over 3400 views.

Also are you going to post your website link on CW and EFN?

Hi Ross,

Not sure what CW and EFN are. So I wont be no.

Good point on the 3400 views though.

the_rage

12-10-2010, 16:37

Hey Big Mick. If you're looking for a good place to knuckle down and train BJJ you could do worse than to check out Sheffield Martial Arts Centre :)
We offer legit BJJ training under Italo Ferreira (Brazilian Black Belt, you should defintely check him out!!) and our weekday classes are taught by Mark Hayes, who at the moment is a certified Blue Belt under Italo. You can find more details here: http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=638993 or on our website: www.sheffieldmartialartscentre.co.uk

Now that the plug is over (!!!) I just want to say that you shouldn't let this thread put you off training at EKBJJ North or GB Sheffield if they are where you want to train. Mark Bottom, Jon Keeley, The Rage and a few other EKBJJ guys have attended a number of our seminars and they've always been really friendly and professional. Mark's BJJ is also pretty damn good, and the few times I've rolled with him he's wiped the floor with me :)

Just want to say that I really enjoyed the last semina with you guys, I met some really nice people. Rolling with Italo Ferreira was great!

DrLazer

12-10-2010, 16:38

Cage Warriors and European Fight Network Harry.

the_rage

12-10-2010, 16:40

Cage Warriors and European Fight Network Harry.

Thanks mate, they say you learn something every day.

Yesterday I learned, you can pick your friends, you can pick your nose but don't pick your friends nose!

DrLazer

12-10-2010, 16:47

See you tomorrow broseph

JimJitsu

12-10-2010, 19:14

Hey Big Mick. If you're looking for a good place to knuckle down and train BJJ you could do worse than to check out Sheffield Martial Arts Centre :)
.... and our weekday classes are taught by Mark Hayes, who at the moment is a certified Blue Belt under Italo.

Now that the plug is over (!!!) I just want to say that you shouldn't let this thread put you off training at EKBJJ North or GB Sheffield if they are where you want to train. Mark Bottom, Jon Keeley, The Rage and a few other EKBJJ guys have attended a number of our seminars and they've always been really friendly and professional. Mark's BJJ is also pretty damn good, and the few times I've rolled with him he's wiped the floor with me :)

cheers ... just like to add that GB Sheffield is taught by John Goldson 3 stripe brown belt under Lagarto Rodrigues (2nd degree black belt under Carlos Gracie jnr & former world champ) Lagarto visits almost monthly (brazilian months) Lucio Sergio Dos Santos visits regular (1st degree black belt under Carlos Gracie jnr)

there are regularly 3 brown belts on the mat and around 10/11 purple belts of varying stripe levels and a rake of blue belts. There are BJJ medal winners at national and international level with a growing number of solid high quality mma fighters.

The fundamentals class regularly has around 35 people turn up (in fact we are having to extend) a testament to the quality of club ran by John G

JimJitsu

12-10-2010, 19:53

is it true gracie barra members get a stripe on there belt after a set amount of time?

that smells of mc-dojo to me a little

Also EKBJJ have belt guidelines on their website.

but they are the minimum timescales or guidelines but i can tell you from personal experience that i have seen many people have to wait a lot longer than the timescales ... also some have been faster than the timescale but these are generally the exception (and have made exceptional progress) ... all belts are personally assessed by Lagarto

basically as is the tradition in BJJ ... you get them when you are ready, anyone who thinks its a mcdojo should come to a sparring class and see for themselves

in the words of draculino ... "they don't even have to pay" :hihi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH_KMladBi0&feature=player_embedded

no apologies for the repost ... nuff said

JimJitsu

12-10-2010, 19:56

.....and the Ultimate SWAT team gi that's on special offer at £199.

you charged me £299 though :loopy::huh:

JimJitsu

12-10-2010, 19:59

Over 1000 views!

Tick tick - boom!

:)

Yes, before you say it, I know its crashed 50 percent of computers, 48 percent have got bored of it loading.

But 1000 people now know of EKBJJ North :)

hmmn ... 487 of them are from my comp ... its stuck in the page loading loop

MelW82

12-10-2010, 20:03

Just want to say that I really enjoyed the last semina with you guys, I met some really nice people. Rolling with Italo Ferreira was great!

Thanks Harry :) hope you can make the next one! Rolling with Italo is ALWAYS great!!!

BTW you should consider posting links to the new site on EFN and CW as it may help with SEO. I know that Flash-built websites can be hard to optimise, and the link-building could help drive the site up Google rankings...

JimJitsu

12-10-2010, 20:03

Hi Ross,

Not sure what CW and EFN are. So I wont be no.

http://www.cagewarriors.com/

http://www.efnsports.com/

the "definitive" place to advertise and talk about your club :)

bendus2

14-10-2010, 07:22

Dr Blazer I would also like to add that I cannot access the site via my new IPAD. I would have been keen to see what was going on down at your barra, but will obvioulsy look elsewhere. Think HTML might have been a better language than Flash. Is there any reason why the second largest group of users is being excluded ?????!!!!!

DrLazer

14-10-2010, 07:48

anywebsite

14-10-2010, 08:36

The website will only work on mobile devices that support Flash. Unfortunately the iPad does not support Flash. This is not something we will be addressing as Flash is accesible by 99% of all internet users.

http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/

IPhone & IPod users are over 1% of all internet users :suspect:

Less biased sources put flash market share closer to 96% & falling.

DrLazer

14-10-2010, 08:59

IPhone & IPod users are over 1% of all internet users :suspect:

Less biased sources put flash market share closer to 96% & falling.

We can live with 96% making it through.

DrLazer

14-10-2010, 09:02

Also our head coach Monkey has a blog that you can view here: http://ekbjjnorth.blogspot.com/

All required information is online there too and it is viewable on iPad / iPhone / evan a toaster that can run a browser.

bendus2

14-10-2010, 13:12

the_rage

14-10-2010, 14:31

Given your somewhat recalcitrant stance I will be visiting one of the other BJJ places in Sheffield, one where I do have a problem viewing the website. e.g. Gracie Barra, SDF, Kapap Sheffield to name a few.

Good to hear that your getting involved. GB sheffield have a lot of skilled members with good tuition, I know Scott and Alex (from SDF) are great fighters and great guys. Craig from Kapap is a top chap. Im sure you will enjoy them all.

bendus2

14-10-2010, 14:54

Am looking forward to it. TBH Dr Blazer has put my nose out of joint with his somewhat PC centric attitude. With this level of arrogance he sure must have a lot of stripes...

the_rage

14-10-2010, 15:16

Am looking forward to it. TBH Dr Blazer has put my nose out of joint with his somewhat PC centric attitude. With this level of arrogance he sure must have a lot of stripes...

Dr Blazer is a really brill guy. He has a lot more stripes than me and he is not arrogant in the slightest.

bendus2

14-10-2010, 15:24

Would be good if he could programme HTML...., I heard a rumour that he lost a stripe, but it must have been a vicious one,

DrLazer

14-10-2010, 15:41

Dr Blazer is a really brill guy. He has a lot more stripes than me and he is not arrogant in the slightest.
Haha nice one. Wrong colour belt though eh?

I can also recommend Kapap as a place to train. Craig is an ace bloke with lots of knowledge in many different martial arts.

Taffi

14-10-2010, 17:25

I'd just like to say that I've trained with the guys at EKBJJ (when it was under Royce Gracie) and found them great guys to train with, I then trained at Kapap and found the training great and my fitness rocketed. After popping into GB Sheffield a few times when they had the shop, I decided to have a go there. I have since found my skills and abilities have increased at a shocking rate. John is an outstanding coach who makes sure you have a laugh and joke but still get the benefit of what he is teaching you, you then have the support of all your team mates at so many different levels of their game.

My point is, as so many others have said, you have to try all the clubs to find the one you most feel comfortable in. I'd happily still train at EKBJJ and Kapap if the opportunity ever arose.

Hope the website works and you get more people into the sport!!!!

BJJMAN

14-10-2010, 19:22

I don't know what you're all arguing about. BJJ is gay anyway. All we do is hug each other, hold each other between our legs, sit on each other or, if we're lucky, put our balls on each others chins.

the_rage

14-10-2010, 21:03

I don't know what you're all arguing about. BJJ is gay anyway. All we do is hug each other, hold each other between our legs, sit on each other or, if we're lucky, put our balls on each others chins.

you missed,

sweating on each other,

being overly dominant/submissive.

t bag.

:)

BarraGergus

16-10-2010, 04:43

the_rage

16-10-2010, 08:58

BJJMAN

16-10-2010, 18:30

Gracie Barra Sheffield. Best BJJ this side of the Mississippi!

Discuss.

BarraGergus

16-10-2010, 19:41

EKBJJ is run by Eddie Kone (blackbelt.) We have a seminar every month with him. Some of us also go down to London to train with him. Best tuition I have had, hands down.

Good to see GB Sheffield is doing so well. All the best with your open day

Thats good to hear, i was taking about clubs where the black belt runs the club on a daily basis (sorry for the confusion) in the north.

such as speedy elliots, gb preston, and so on.

gb sheffield is run daily by a brown belt, so are other clubs in leeds, manchester and so on.

the point i was making is that forget the "you and us" thing sheffield is small, but has quite a few bjj clubs, but ranked in the WHOLE north nether club would be rated in the top five.....

so to say that EKBJJ north is the best club up north is so far away from the truth.

anyway back to the grind... have fun and stay classy sheffield

Gregg

DrLazer

18-10-2010, 08:17

the only problem/ issue i can see is the statement about the best club in the north, as others have said there are numerous BJJ Black Belts in the north of england, not just brazilians but home grown uk guys.

personally i find it quite disrespectful to make a remark like this, i know your trying to "pimp" your club and thats fine, i like the website, it looks kinda sexy.

i think it may just have been an oversight but follow this link to see a map of the bjj clubs in the uk (may not be a definative list, but a good start) paying attention to the north and see if you can honestly stand by the statement.

http://www.slideyfoot.com/2000/01/uk-bjj-club-list.html

anyway as everyone is saying, try every club you can. i'm always going to recomend Barra because thats my club, and i feel more than confidet in our record/ name/ instructor is the best, 40+ students a session cant be wrong.

live the dream

Gregg

Thankyou for the positive feeback on the website. :hihi: It is still a way of complete and we are looking to improve it.

No disrespect was intended.

It says "the definative BJJ club in the North of England". It is impossible for anyone to express what constitutes our own opinion on what defines a BJJ club. It doesn't say "we have the most medals" or "we have higher quality tuition" or "we have the biggest class size" its an expression of our opinion that includes more of the factors of what we believe should define a BJJ club. This could be attitude, style, the members, the tutors - and endless list of possible reasons. It is awesome that GB are proud of their record and trophy cabinet, but this is not something that our club care too much for. We have won a number of medals in both gi and nogi but probably couldn't even get the information together to give a number as to how many. We had a white belt enter the top division in a nogi contest, go on to win bronze and then throw away the medal in dissapointment - it is this kind of ethic that I am yet to find at any other club and what for me personally makes EKBJJ North the definative club. We train only for ourselves and for the knowledge, my belt colour and degree is not of high importance for me - so long as i am gaining knowledge at each class and that my coach is happy with my attitude and progress.

Its good to see this being such a hot topic, BJJ is clearly spreading fast. Lets keep it up and build upon the sport we all love.

kapapjonny

21-10-2010, 11:41

Dr Blazer is the rumour that you had a stripe removed by Eddie Kone true ?? or is this a vicious rumour ???

DrLazer

21-10-2010, 12:31

Dr Blazer is the rumour that you had a stripe removed by Eddie Kone true ?? or is this a vicious rumour ???

Actually, he was going to but took my iPad off of me instead.

DrLazer

21-10-2010, 12:47

We have introduced more classes recently due to an increase in new starters to cover BJJ fundamentals. These classes are not running as a course and anyone can come along to any class and try out BJJ for themselves. Its a great sport, it's good for fitness and the class is run in a relaxed and friendly way, everyone welcome.

The website has been updated and the new times are as follows:

Monday.
Beginners BJJ : 7pm - 8pm
BJJ : 8pm - 10pm

Tuesday.
MMA : 7pm - 9pm

Wednesday.
BJJ : 7pm - 9pm

Thursday.
MMA : 7pm - 9pm

Friday.
Beginners BJJ : 7pm - 8pm
BJJ : 8pm - 10pm

Check the website for a map of how to get there and where the classes are held. Feel free to PM me for more details.

the_rage

21-10-2010, 13:44