Self explantry really, there are two lap tops in my home both wanting to use the internet at the same time.
I am on dial up and i have rang up my suppler (Telewest) who say it can't be done.
I knew someone who did do this, but i,m told it can't happen.
Any suggestions.

What operating system are you using on each computer? It can be done very easily so Telewest's comments made me laugh out loud ;)

These threads may also help:

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=64661&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending

Nomme

If you're using Windows XP it's dead easy. There's a wizard that does it all for you. The Telewest operator obviously didn't know what s/he was talking about.

If you have network ports on both then you can use one to as primary machine, set that one up to share its connection and then get yourself a crossover network cable (not a normal patch one)..

From there on in you just use wizards or spend a little time checking google for helpful guides and how to's

you need a network port in each machine, and a cross-over cable (about £4 from maplins)

plug them together and set up internet connection sharing in windows

Originally posted by The Cycleracer
Self explantry really, there are two lap tops in my home both wanting to use the internet at the same time.
I am on dial up and i have rang up my suppler (Telewest) who say it can't be done.
I knew someone who did do this, but i,m told it can't happen.
Any suggestions.

I have the same problem,two laptops on there own netowrk via a wirless Lan.
One of the laptops is connected to blueyonder broadband via a pcmcia network adaptor.
I was told it easy to connect to internet via main laptop over my wirless lan,but I cant seem to get it to work.

If you want some pcmcia token ring network cards for your laptop ive got a few spare,you can have them for free if any good to you.

Nah don't listen to them! You want a wireless ADSL router, such as this one (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=41468) and then a wireless network card for both laptops. That way, you are still free to roam with the laptop even when online, and you can even sit out in the garden on the net in the summer!

An ADSL router, whether wireless or not, wont really be much use to him, since hes using dialup. Much cheaper to buy 2 network adaptors and a crossover cable and do it that way.

Good point - missed the dial up part.

How come i get the feeling i,m no wiser.
I'm even more confused now.
Just for interest, I have Windows XP on both laptops.
[B]Geoff[B]the answer to your question is I don't have a clue.
T020, I was interested in the ability to use it outdoors, tell me more please.
If anyone can sort this out for me i'll gladly pay for it.

Originally posted by The Cycleracer
How come i get the feeling i,m no wiser.
I'm even more confused now.
Just for interest, I have Windows XP on both laptops.
Geoffthe answer to your question is I don't have a clue.
T020, I was interested in the ability to use it outdoors, tell me more please.
If anyone can sort this out for me i'll gladly pay for it.

Basically, you need a network card in each joined by a null modem (bit of wire) and use the XP network wizard to set up the link. This is, probably, the best XP forum on the web where you will be able to get loads more advice:

XP Forum (http://www.windowsxpuser.com/forums/index.php)

PS. Windows XP is your operating system.

Originally posted by The Cycleracer

T020, I was interested in the ability to use it outdoors, tell me more please.
If anyone can sort this out for me i'll gladly pay for it.


I think you need a broadband connection for a router. I'm not 100% though, you might be able to somehow do it with a dialup connection too.

Originally posted by The Cycleracer
How come i get the feeling i,m no wiser.
I'm even more confused now.
Just for interest, I have Windows XP on both laptops.
[B]Geoff[B]the answer to your question is I don't have a clue.
T020, I was interested in the ability to use it outdoors, tell me more please.
If anyone can sort this out for me i'll gladly pay for it.

You will network cards for both laptops, on PCMCIA Cards.

These could be cabled or wireless cards. Wireless cards would enable you to work in the garden, on a peer to peer local network (no server or Hub/Router needed.) One would need to be connected to your phone line of course.

The advantage of using a (wireless) hub routing solution is that you do not need a master computer to be on for the other one to connect.

or some other method of allowing them to communicate with each other using TCP/IP (the lingua franca of the internet). RTTY, fibre optic, line of sight microwave , whatever.

You could also use a [url=http://www.vision.net.au/~timotsc/null/nullmodem.htm]null modem cable[url]

You will need to get this stuff before you can make everything work.

Then pick the 'master' laptop - the one that must be on for the other to see the internet ands the one that has the connection to the internet via your modem.

On this machine you need to the Network Setup Wizard

Go to 'Start>control panel' and double click 'network settings'

If you don't see a list of common tasks on the righ hand side of the next window, click 'tools>folder options' and in the general tab, check the 'Show common tasks in folders' radio button and click OK

Now click the item called 'Set up a home or small office network'

Firstly click the link for the Network Checklist and print it out. Then follow the wizard once you are convinced your computers are connected and working as they should.

Good luck. I'll come round your house and do it for a Gallon of Ale (Theakstons Old Peculier, or Chimay White Label)

Sorry, missed the bit about being outside. You can use wireless technology to join your 2 laptops which means you can still use your internet connection on both and use one in the garden. Try the link I gave you for more info or buy a complete solution from Maplins or PC World. Not the best but the simplest, imo.

Originally posted by max
Sorry, missed the bit about being outside. You can use wireless technology to join your 2 laptops which means you can still use your internet connection on both and use one in the garden. Try the link I gave you for more info or buy a complete solution from Maplins or PC World. Not the best but the simplest, imo.

Maplins or PC World?? Only if you want to get talked into buying things that you can buy for sometimes LITERALLY 10 times less on websites such as Ebuyer and Dabs.

two of these would do

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000056SSM/026-0757588-8658814?v=glance

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
two of these would do

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000056SSM/026-0757588-8658814?v=glance

Or 2 of these, for HALF the price:

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=51329

Get your network cards installed, get yourself a cable, then have a look at this (http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/) . Should tell you just about all you need to know.

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
You will network cards for both laptops, on PCMCIA Cards.

These could be cabled or wireless cards. Wireless cards would enable you to work in the garden, on a peer to peer local network (no server or Hub/Router needed.) One would need to be connected to your phone line of course.

The advantage of using a (wireless) hub routing solution is that you do not need a master computer to be on for the other one to connect.

or some other method of allowing them to communicate with each other using TCP/IP (the lingua franca of the internet). RTTY, fibre optic, line of sight microwave , whatever.

You could also use a [url=http://www.vision.net.au/~timotsc/null/nullmodem.htm]null modem cable[url]

You will need to get this stuff before you can make everything work.

Then pick the 'master' laptop - the one that must be on for the other to see the internet ands the one that has the connection to the internet via your modem.

On this machine you need to the Network Setup Wizard

Go to 'Start>control panel' and double click 'network settings'

If you don't see a list of common tasks on the righ hand side of the next window, click 'tools>folder options' and in the general tab, check the 'Show common tasks in folders' radio button and click OK

Now click the item called 'Set up a home or small office network'

Firstly click the link for the Network Checklist and print it out. Then follow the wizard once you are convinced your computers are connected and working as they should.

Good luck. I'll come round your house and do it for a Gallon of Ale (Theakstons Old Peculier, or Chimay White Label) :D :D :D :D Yeah, I feel a lot better for that info Phan,not.
Its like throwing a ball in a lake telling me all that, it just does'nt sink in.
Could sort the beer out if you can sort it for me though.
Skip the fancy words and take me up on the offer.
PM me if needed.

Originally posted by t020
Maplins or PC World?? Only if you want to get talked into buying things that you can buy for sometimes LITERALLY 10 times less on websites such as Ebuyer and Dabs.

I know you can get things a lot cheaper on the net but in terms of simplicity one of the major outlets is easiest. Either that or take it to your local computer shop.

Alternatively, go to PC World, ask their advice on what to get and then order it from the net.

Originally posted by max
I know you can get things a lot cheaper on the net but in terms of simplicity one of the major outlets is easiest. Either that or take it to your local computer shop.

Alternatively, go to PC World, ask their advice on what to get and then order it from the net.

Never, ever, ever, ever ask PC World for advice on networking (or anything really) - you've been warned.

Originally posted by fnkysknky
Never, ever, ever, ever ask PC World for advice on networking (or anything really) - you've been warned.

My sentiments exactly, PC World Sales Assistants tend to know NOTHING about electronics/computers in general. Apart from how to switch one on and tell you what OS it has on it :)

Best advice is to surf the net, and read the many How To? Articles that are hosted on various sites.

Skatie

The other week someone I know went down and asked them about a new SCSI hard drive - the PC World staff told them SCSI devices weren't used anymore as it was an out of date, old technology and wasn't as quick as IDE. Ok then....

:wow: :shocked: You'd wonder how the sales assistant got his job with that kind of information :loopy:

Originally posted by The Cycleracer
Yeah, I feel a lot better for that info Phan, not.
:lol: Yeah, it wasn't really written in a "newbie" friendly way! Your best bet (as you say) is to have a friend, or someone from the forum, come around and sort it out for you. If they know what they're doing it will take about 10 minutes max - so if they're still there after a few hours then it's time to start worrying!

For what it's worth you may as well go down the wireless route especially if you're using laptops. So basically you need two PCMCIA wireless network cards. Don't expect to get anywhere near the published speeds though.

ghur, ill do it for you(not)

Will be quite funny sharing a 56K connection..

Scrap that lot. Go for the easy option! Get broadband, buy 2 wireless network cards and a wireless router. Set the buggers up and surf google whilst sunbathing or even taking a crap. Problem solved.

;)